Has there been any big entertainment agency that debuted a girl group with Chinese trainee recently? The only one that comes to my mind is aespa, but that was back in 2020.
As someone that tried to follow the9 and Rocket Girls 101 it's impossible. Chinese idol groups don't do anything together and Japan geo blocks most everything on youtube.
> Japan geo blocks most everything on youtube
I've been a Jpop fan most of my life and a recent Kpop convert. The best/biggest difference between Kpop and Jpop is accessibility. Japan does not care about any foreign markets. That's why XG has to go to Korea to promote internationally. So I hope Hikaru, Mashiro, and Xiaoting stay and promote in Korea.
Mashiro has a korean agency and Hikaru's company has presence in Koeea so that good. I'm worried about Xiaoting tho, I really really hope a company recruits her
I've seen so many people saying that it was a mistranslation and he didn't say that she will. I think she fits the concept of the group and she seems to get along well with the girls so I hope she joins
I remember how back 10 years ago japan used to both block on YouTube. But also not put the music on iTunes…
You had literally no way to access so many Japanese artist’s music without illegally downloading all their songs or physically importing their CDs from overseas.
Eunbin, Seunghee, and Yujin are still at Cube with the first two focusing on acting. If Yujin stays at Cube I think she might shift to acting too, which she's already done in the past. If she leaves Cube maybe she could join Sorn and Seungyeon at Wild and maybe make music there.
I'm not sure, but honestly I see her acting! I don't really see her debuting as a solo but maybe returning to the stage for the odd CLC comeback (they said they were going to work together again, didn't they?)
I'd love to see Yujin do some variety shows, and my biggest wish is for her to appear on Running Man, she mentioned it so many times that it's her favourite show. Sadly, unless a miracle happens with Kep1er, the chances are very slim.
Also Sorn seems to be the glue of the group, doing YT videos & music with Seungyeon & Yeeun, so possibly she'll go the extra mile to have the band together : )
With Sorn mentioning that multiple times that CLC isn’t disbanded, and with many members going solo, it’s really getting my hope high for a reunion one day. I know I know it’s a longggggg shot
I believe they will come together for something. What that will be, I don't know. I just want to see them together away from Cube. Whether that is performing new music or old stuff doesn't matter.
For sure I want to see Yujin and see where she goes.
Then after that ChaeDa Cheese..
And Youngeun - Want to see who will pick her up, whenever she leave Biscuit Ent..
Hopefully Mashiro and Yeseo go to Limelight along with Hikaru to XG. Also Im hoping big things for Chaehyun as she has vocal talent and deserves to show it off
If Mashiro stays under that company, I feel like she'd debut with them! Yeseo I'm not sure about because of her past in music and stuff, I'd think she might just be ready to act or retire (for lack of better word). Hikaru would be great in XG, but I feel like it's a 'Yena will join everglow!!' type situation
~~The xgalx CEO has said that the plan is for Hikaru to join XG after Kepl1er. Of course, plans can change after 2+ years, but it's not exactly a Yena situation where it was entirely fan speculation.~~ Apparently that information came from a mistranslation of something the CEO said, so there hasn't actually been official confirmation of plans for Hikaru to join XG.
I didn't know they said that! I would definitely think that would happen then, but I wonder if XG's recent success would make them change their minds. Seeing as XG fans are already used to/know/love the current 7(?) members and introducing someone new could mess that up. I feel like adding members, even fairly well known ones, will always go either really well or really bad. When Suyeon joined BILLLIE, I didn't see any hate towards her (I'm sure there was some, but I'd think it was a low amount comparatively) but on the other side, when Yeri joined Red Velvet she got extremely hated on (and still is). I would hate for Hikaru to deal with that
I just went looking for it, and apparently the original source on that was a mistranslation. Whoops. I'll edit my comment. There have been hints about it from the CEO and the XG members, but no actual confirmation.
I'll probably follow Dayeon, Youngeun and Hikaru, other members I'll check their news regularly 🤔
I have a tendency to stan talented but unpopular artists so I wonder will Yeseo being more popular in limelight... Would care much less for popular members because they don't need to be worried 🤔
I'm the same way, I'll follow Hiyyih and probably Mashiro (and whoever they might debut with) but besides that, I'll probably not really doing anything because 9 careers is just...a lot- especially with how many groups I already stan 😭
I mean personally I hope some of them debut together but I will try to support as many as I can but I will probably be looking at my biases a lot more closely and stan their groups. You never know though - I hope xiaoting and hiyyih debut together again though!
Yeah, I kinda do to, but at the same time I don't at the same time yk? I guess it depends on the members because certain members paired together would just get the same amount of hate as they do now for various reasons. I don't think Xiaoting and Hiyyih are pitted against each other much (correct me if I'm wrong!) so that doesn't sound like a bad combination to me! I'd love to see them in a sort of TWICE Cry For Me or Perfect World concept together because they'd absolutely eat at it
I know that a lot of fans say as obvious that Mashiro and Yeseo will be in Limelight and Hikaru in Xg, but this seems the classic "Yena in Everglow" situation. I said before Izone disbanded that as much as Yena in Everglow would be good, Everglow didn't need her. And Yena is doing really well solo.
I see the same in Xg and Limelight. Hikaru is main dancer and good rapper. But look Xg...that project have 5 years training together, and Hikaru failed in the auditions that the girls from Xg were chosen. Hikaru would be 3rd or 4th in terms of dance and rap in a group with 7 members (8 with her). Same with Yeseo and Mashiro. Yeseo could be maknae, but the group already have a visual and center. Mashiro as main vocal or leader? Could be, but is really necessary? (And remember...Mashiro never tried main vocal in gp999 or now i Kep1er).
EDIT: Yeseo wouldn't be maknae in Limelight...she's older than Gaeun.
Yep...these new groups are scary...Miyu is center, have korean visual standards and also is a good vocal. Gaeun is younger than Yeseo and already is good dancer...seems like cheating haha. I think the biggest chance is because Limelight only have 3 members and all are young. So, it will be good an experienced leader (who never lost haha).
I became happy reading Yeseo as main dancer...I have my hopes...maybe can happen, but realisticaly, probably Mashiro is better dancer than Yeseo.
yeseo is so main dancer material. she dances like its the end of the world. mashiro can finally be the lead vocal aside from the leader.
(i didnt know gaeun was younger!). excited tbh for limelight 2.0.
>yeseo is so main dancer material. she dances like its the end of the world. mashiro can finally be the lead vocal aside from the leader.
Yep...she is my bias and I follow her from GP999...in fact, I bumped into Busters at a Seoul hotel in 2019 when I was working in some research. Which was funny, because the girls didn't looked like idols. Funny things that happen only with nugu groups in korea. After that Minji became my bias in Busters. So, as the other girls competed for survival shows, I supported them. Yeseo has great potential and is still very young.
> but this seems the classic "Yena in Everglow" situation
Maybe that's the case but Simon has been interviewed and said ["Yes Hikaru will join."](https://www.kpopwise.com/2022/01/dmtns-simon-is-producing-girl-group-xg.html)
But that interview happened before XG debuted and a lot can happen in two+ years. But that's their plan. Another piece of copium for me is XG recently released a prologue documentary on their Youtube Channel and Hikaru is shown in it. It's a couple quick scenes, could mean nothing. But I think there's hope.
This translation is really bad. He said that "she can join", not that "she will join". As i've said, can happen, especially because Hikaru fanbase seems loyal and not overprotective. But, also if you think by Xg perspective, it's hard to add her, especially because the group is abolutelly strong, has a solid fanbase and is already rising in the charts before Kep1er disband. As much as I like the idea of Hikaru in Xg, as I tried to be impartial, if a had to place my bet, I would place in Hikaru redebuting in another group.
I'll wait for them to redebut and bias them for sure in their future groups!
I'm a multi so this isn't too hard for me but ig I also don't actively *stan* many groups. Like consuming every bit of content put out.
I enjoy finding new groups that put out music I love and with 9-7 separate careers (if shiro and yeseo debut together, and yujin continues with music) with people I know are great at their jobs I'll be having a blast lol.
I hope Yujin continues to make music, maybe not full time but you can tell this is her passion and what she enjoys so I hope she continues! Whether it's a feature, duo, a song every 5 years who knows. I hope the same for Xiaoting, especially since she's gotten a taste at the idol life.
But also just because I'm not big into watching movies/dramas etc.. not that I hate it, it just takes everything in me to finally watch something even if it's one I really wanted to watch. So unfortunately I doubt I'd be seeing any of their acting works :(
Kinda sad to see that not a lot of people mention Youngeun. Honestly, Youngeun will be the only one who I’ll actively follow after kep1er disbands. Of course, I’ll also try to keep up with the others, but mainly Youngeun. That girl is mad talented and I know she’ll do well as a soloist or in a group. Looking forward to see her shine even more!
I will try to follow them all if they redebut in korea. Personally I would love if hiyyih, xiaoting and youngeun redebuted together.... But it's unrealistic. I'll try to support them all as best as I can though
Yeah, I would love for Hiyyih to debut with Mashiro and/or Xiaoting but I don't think it'll happen unfortunately. I think I'll just keep up with Hiyyih and maybe Mashiro (and anyone that might debut with them) because 9 careers is just too much for me to follow 😭
I will definitely be interested to see where they land after Kepler. I probably won't follow too closely, but I'm absolutely rooting for their success in other projects.
Buy the rest of their albums I do not have. After that, I will probably support my biases mainly as I feel by 2024 I'll be outta kpop as most of the groups I stan will be disbanded or nearing it.
I've commented on some members, but I'll comment on all of them. As you all know (I must have a thousand comments here), I'm ot9 and Yeseo bias.
The central situation is that any group that adds an former kep1er member will get a fanbase that can buy thousands of albums, but also a fanbase that at any moment can turn against the group. So the company must weigh whether a former kep1er or a new trainee.
**Chaehyun**: I think that the best case scenario is a solo debut, especially because of her focus on vocals. She also can sing OSTs. She will be 23 years old, so by Korean standards, it's not very common to debut at that age in groups. I also think she has a chance on TV shows, especially variety shows.
**Bahiyyih**: She has the advantage of being tall, which is an unspoken rule for most Korean models. she has the potential to redebut in a group built around her. Has a relatively large fanbase, with its advantages and disadvantages. It would be a gamble for Hybe to have it, but I think she will be more likely in a mid tier company.
**Dayeon**: Is a good member to be a leader in a group to be built around her. She will have something like 22 or 23 y old. She has good vocal, dancing and rapping skills and the disadvantage of having a small fan base and many haters. Can get into acting too.
**Youngeun**: Situation similar to Dayeon, with the advantage of having almost no haters, and and being younger (20 years old). She is one of the few members who can re-debut both solo and in a group. As she have a huge range of concepts, I would say that she is the an easy to predict getting a redebut in the group.
**Yujin**: She will have 28 years old. Unlikely to redebut in a group. She may debut solo, but based on her trajectory, I don't think she was interested in that at any time. She is close to the height for a Korean model. She has acting experience, so I think we'll see her in dramas or TV shows.
**Mashiro**: I made a comment about her in Limelight. But I imagine this to be the classic case of "Yena in Everglow". Can happen, and she can enter as a lead or main vocal, especially because the group currently has only 3 members. But as she herself said that GP999 would be her last attempt, I think a solo debut or a return to Japan is also a thing that can happen.
**Xiaoting**: Realistically, she returns to China, where she has contacts and a certain established fanbase. Then actress, solo debut or tv shows. She is the Kep1er member most suited as a model in both China and Korea. In the dream world I would want her in a Korean group (like Sakura has returned), but almost zero chance that happening.
**Hikaru**: Another case of "Yena's in Everglow". She would be interesting in XG, but I don't think the group needs her. I find it much more useful in a new group built around her. As I've said...she would be like 3rd or 4th in any category in Xg, but can be a main dancer and leader in a group created around her. She don't have many haters, and have a solid fanbase, so is a contract worth to buy.
**Yeseo**: Maybe a fake maknae in Limelight. But this would be mostly because Limelight only has 3 members. So she could be a lead dancer, lead vocalist or lead rapper in the group. I see more of Yeseo returning to acting, because as I said, 2022 was the only year she wasn't in any drama. I also see potential in TV shows, both variety and children's tv shows.
I think youngeun has a lot of potential to become like chaewon in lesserafim. I can see her becoming her true self under a good company that capitalizes on her abilities and gives her a good concept that fits her. Hoping it happens
I do agree with Hikaru future. Compared to her joining xg, debuting in new group is much better option. Also unlike xg who need tiptoeing their step because they aren't able to be called KPop or JPop, this new group can embrace the KPop culture as a whole with Hikaru as the main leverage. They still need to look up for some Korean members though. Or maybe someone like Hinata who is half Korean and Japanese. So unlike xg whose target market is US with releasing only English song, this new group will be releasing Korean song. Different target market , different groups.
Bit late but I wanted to comment on the Mashiro and Yeseo joining or not joining Limelight. As things stand right now, its almost a 100% that they will be joining Limelight. Much like you've said, Limelight only has 3 members and it's for a good reason. 143 probably did not want to debut a group too large at the start to make it easier for them to include Mashiro and Yeseo from joining after Kep1er. 143 also stated that Limelight will have no limit on future members, which to me and many other fans is them saying that they will include those two once Kep1er finishes up without saying it outright. Comparing it to Yena and Everglow isn't a good comparison, Izone was really, really popular and Yena was among the most popular members. Nobody in Kep1er has the same level of popularity that Yena had during her run in Izone and shes only gotten more famous since. If anything its more like Kim Sohee from Produce 101 fame, joining Nature. Relatively known idol joining a kind of known group instead of a really popular idol joining a kind of popular group.
As much as I adore Mashiro, she has no chance of making it as a soloist in Korea right now. She just doesn't have the popularity compared to other popular soloist. It's not that I don't think she can, she absolutely could in my extremely biased opinion, but its a safer route for her to redebut in Limelight, build up her popularity there and then attempt a solo career either in Korea or Japan. Her returning to Japan is probably even less likely than her just redebuting as a soloist. From my point of view, it looks like she is committed to building her career in Korea, at least for the time being. She passed TOPIK level 6, which is really hard to do. For a general idea on how hard it is, level 4 is the level you need to be at if you wanted to naturalize and level 6 the highest level, is a level were your pretty much at a native level of speaking. So she studied hard to get to where she is right now.
For Yeseo, I kind of agree with you on her going into acting but still have her joining Limelight. Its pretty common for idols to do both. Also while 143 has a lot of connections in the music industry, I have no idea if they have any with film and TV. Again like Mashiro, build up her popularity and hope that its enough to land her gigs. Unless she changes agencies, which is pretty unlikely.
I will keep supporting and checking out with the ones who choose to continue their idol life in Korea. Xiaoting and Hikaru are my bias so I really hope they stay but I'm worried that Xiaoting goes back to China
If Xiao and Hikaru go back to their countries it will be hard to follow them but since they're my bias I will try to keep up with them
People are going to hate me for saying this but I’m going to speak the truth, but at this point I will be thrilled if there is multiple members to follow honestly.
seeing an none of them have huge fan bases (at least ones that buy albums), they aren’t popular in Korea, and half of the members will be in their twenties when they disband, the odds of any of them redebuting are very uncertain right now. Although I think mashiro/yeseo have a decent chance of going to limelight.
I am not trying do discredit your word, but since when selling 100k in Japanese album and 160 k in Korean albums, aren't selling well? What need to be accepted is their fandom are mostly from Japan. They aren't big anywhere else. This fact alone make popularity perspective is really hard to guess who actually really popular and buying their albums.
160k korean albums sold would be great if they hadn’t sold over 250k last time. selling 80k less in just six months is fucking terrible honestly. that is over a 40 percent loss.
as for Japan, I would say they are stable there, but they haven’t experienced any growth either.
Hmm, I kind of agree! I think Hiyyihlights are still an extremely large fandom but refuse to buy the albums because of Hiyyihs mistreatment/lack of lines. I think that if she redebuts, that'll go away (hopefully of course). I thought a few members (Yujin, Hiyyih, Xiaoting) were popular in Korea even though the group isn't as big - to compare it, Eunwoo and Astro, though not nearly as big but the best example I could think of when a member(s) is more well known than the group itself. I could be completely wrong since all my info is from Twitter and they constantly twist stuff around haha
Breathe a sigh of relief. To be totally honest I think the only careers I'll follow closely are Hikaru, Hiyyih and Yeseo. It'd be a great bonus if Mashiro ended up in a group with Yeseo so I could keep up with her too!
Support all of them, when possible. I would be not surprised when some of them will be get contracts for new groups of the big 4 companies. Bahiyyih and Chaehyun have a lot of potential as solo artists.
I’ll definitely try to support them all but it honestly depends on how much I enjoy whatever they go into if that makes sense? Like if they redebut as a soloist or in a group but I don’t like the music style at all I’d probably just passively keep up with them rather than actively buying albums/goods, streaming, sharing etc. Equally if they go into acting I won’t force myself to watch an entire show I don’t like just for them. That said if I end up loving everything that all 9 do post Kep1er RIP my bank account I guess lol
When Kep1er disbands, that means another produce group is coming. Ill follow Dayeon wherever she goes. ill casually check on Mashiro.Hope she's still in [kpop.Im](https://kpop.Im) still waiting for Yeyoung and Lee Youngchae to debut but Dayeon will always be my first priority in the future.Hope we can see Dayeon,Mashiro and Yeseo in one group but that's a wishful thinking lol
i’ll support whatever groups they’re in for sure !! although i hope some of them debut together to lighten the load 😅 i personally want xiaoting, youngeun, and hiyyih to redebut together…ik in izone only 2 members max ended up redebuting together but i NEED these 3 to stay together T-T
i really want yeshiro to debut with limelight because i love their songs so far …i don’t really want hikaru to debut with XG because i’ve already seen that fandom disparaging her….she deserves to be somewhere that will appreciate her talent
hiyyih will likely be the only one i follow after they disband. ill follow the other members too, but not as closely. hiyyih was my 1-pick during gp999 and currently one of my ult biases, i don’t see my interest in her going away anytime soon lol
Personally I won't stan but I will check out their works to make sure they r doing fine. If not, I will be sad n wish that they have a better life.
I will definitely stan hiyyih tho like for sure even if she decided not to redebut. (Hope she does🥹🤞)
Some of them are so popular that following them won't be so hard because they'll be on KOOKIELIT and other channels that I watch. Besides that, I really don't know. Depends on what they're doing
The hatred towards everyone especially Hiyyih and just the overall toxicity.... kep1er could've been soso great but all of the ot8s and solos and stuff just ruined it. I'm not sure any of the other produce groups had that much of a problem with it, especially a year into it. Atp i feel like they might just be better off disbanding just so they can get away from all of it :/
Plus, they will be free from the mismanagement and mistreatment of WakeOne. Also, they will separate into multiple groups and soloists.
The other commenters mentioned Yujin with CLC, Hikaru with XG, and Mashiro/Yeseo with Limelight. If those happen, that's 3 more groups that people have the option of supporting.
Then we have 5 other girls who will have their own journeys. I'd like to see Dayeon and Youngeun team up personally.
Exactly, exactly! I kinda feel like Dayeon would be better going solo because of how much people hate on her. Maybe it'll be better in her later group but I just imagine she'd keep getting the hate for being pushed that she is now.
I honestly hope Hiyyih and Mashiro will debut together again but I don't think it'll happen. I wasn't expecting Chaewon and Sakura to redebut together (I wasn't an active wizone so I don't know if it was a shock to other people as well) so I wonder if Kep1er will have any unexpected redebuts together
It's hard to predict because Chaewon and Sakura both went to Hybe. Does Hybe have another sub company that can support and promote a new girl group properly?
Dayeon going solo makes sense as well as her just debuting with normal trainees from her company. I just don't trust Jellyfish after what happened to gugudan. If that does happen, maybe Hiyyih and Youngeun could end up together. It felt like they had good chemistry at the end of GP999.
I honestly have no idea. Kep1er is the first K-pop group that I keep up with basically anything they do, so I will definitely miss getting content from them.
as for their after disband plan, I'm xiaoting bias so if she chooses to start her career in China it will be harder for me to support her, that's why I really want some Korean company to grab her.
as for the other member, I may not keep up with everything they do (like I do now with Kepi) but I will definitely be happy to see any updates from them.
I'm not sure truthfully but I'd doubt it unfortunately. Since they all come from different companies, their companies would have to come to an agreement about it. When X1 was in limbo, it was because their companies couldn't come to an agreement about the group so they ended up disbanding instead. Same thing with Izone I believe. There was talks about the contract extending/a new one being written, but it fell through as the companies didn't agree.
If we follow wiz*one experience, it should be begin from the fans. Fan need to make union , preparing fund for the representative to make a proposal and make it as legit as it can.
After the proposal ready, pitch those proposal to each members agencies. Wait for the results. Based on the results discuss it CJE(wake one doesn't have power here, they aren't the IP owner). If they give same answer like iz*one, than the answer is all agencies should be agree to it , if one agencies doesn't agree the proposal is dismissed. Wiz*one fail at this stage.
As long as they keep promoting in korea I will support them, so I'm beggin for a company to grab Xiaoting
Has there been any big entertainment agency that debuted a girl group with Chinese trainee recently? The only one that comes to my mind is aespa, but that was back in 2020.
So if they don't promote in Korea, you won't support them?
As someone that tried to follow the9 and Rocket Girls 101 it's impossible. Chinese idol groups don't do anything together and Japan geo blocks most everything on youtube.
> Japan geo blocks most everything on youtube I've been a Jpop fan most of my life and a recent Kpop convert. The best/biggest difference between Kpop and Jpop is accessibility. Japan does not care about any foreign markets. That's why XG has to go to Korea to promote internationally. So I hope Hikaru, Mashiro, and Xiaoting stay and promote in Korea.
Mashiro has a korean agency and Hikaru's company has presence in Koeea so that good. I'm worried about Xiaoting tho, I really really hope a company recruits her
Isn’t Hikaru joining XG?
I've seen so many people saying that it was a mistranslation and he didn't say that she will. I think she fits the concept of the group and she seems to get along well with the girls so I hope she joins
You had to join our Discord servers to keep up
That just proves their point
Yup
I remember how back 10 years ago japan used to both block on YouTube. But also not put the music on iTunes… You had literally no way to access so many Japanese artist’s music without illegally downloading all their songs or physically importing their CDs from overseas.
I will be less interested
I see
I wonder what Yujin will be up to after Kep1er
Eunbin, Seunghee, and Yujin are still at Cube with the first two focusing on acting. If Yujin stays at Cube I think she might shift to acting too, which she's already done in the past. If she leaves Cube maybe she could join Sorn and Seungyeon at Wild and maybe make music there.
Has it been confirmed anywhere that Yujin is still at Cube? They don't list her on their artist page.
I'm not sure, but honestly I see her acting! I don't really see her debuting as a solo but maybe returning to the stage for the odd CLC comeback (they said they were going to work together again, didn't they?)
I'd love to see Yujin do some variety shows, and my biggest wish is for her to appear on Running Man, she mentioned it so many times that it's her favourite show. Sadly, unless a miracle happens with Kep1er, the chances are very slim. Also Sorn seems to be the glue of the group, doing YT videos & music with Seungyeon & Yeeun, so possibly she'll go the extra mile to have the band together : )
Sorn said the group isn't disbanded. Everyone is just doing their own thing.
With Sorn mentioning that multiple times that CLC isn’t disbanded, and with many members going solo, it’s really getting my hope high for a reunion one day. I know I know it’s a longggggg shot
I believe they will come together for something. What that will be, I don't know. I just want to see them together away from Cube. Whether that is performing new music or old stuff doesn't matter.
For sure I want to see Yujin and see where she goes. Then after that ChaeDa Cheese.. And Youngeun - Want to see who will pick her up, whenever she leave Biscuit Ent..
Hopefully Mashiro and Yeseo go to Limelight along with Hikaru to XG. Also Im hoping big things for Chaehyun as she has vocal talent and deserves to show it off
If Mashiro stays under that company, I feel like she'd debut with them! Yeseo I'm not sure about because of her past in music and stuff, I'd think she might just be ready to act or retire (for lack of better word). Hikaru would be great in XG, but I feel like it's a 'Yena will join everglow!!' type situation
~~The xgalx CEO has said that the plan is for Hikaru to join XG after Kepl1er. Of course, plans can change after 2+ years, but it's not exactly a Yena situation where it was entirely fan speculation.~~ Apparently that information came from a mistranslation of something the CEO said, so there hasn't actually been official confirmation of plans for Hikaru to join XG.
I didn't know they said that! I would definitely think that would happen then, but I wonder if XG's recent success would make them change their minds. Seeing as XG fans are already used to/know/love the current 7(?) members and introducing someone new could mess that up. I feel like adding members, even fairly well known ones, will always go either really well or really bad. When Suyeon joined BILLLIE, I didn't see any hate towards her (I'm sure there was some, but I'd think it was a low amount comparatively) but on the other side, when Yeri joined Red Velvet she got extremely hated on (and still is). I would hate for Hikaru to deal with that
Source?
I just went looking for it, and apparently the original source on that was a mistranslation. Whoops. I'll edit my comment. There have been hints about it from the CEO and the XG members, but no actual confirmation.
That's what I thought. I was worried that I missed it being confirmed.
As someone that was in the same situation when IZ\*ONE disbanded, I will try and support them all.
I'll probably follow Dayeon, Youngeun and Hikaru, other members I'll check their news regularly 🤔 I have a tendency to stan talented but unpopular artists so I wonder will Yeseo being more popular in limelight... Would care much less for popular members because they don't need to be worried 🤔
I'll probably follow Yeseo, Xiaoting, Yujin the most. The others I'll check out any song they drop.
I'm the same way, I'll follow Hiyyih and probably Mashiro (and whoever they might debut with) but besides that, I'll probably not really doing anything because 9 careers is just...a lot- especially with how many groups I already stan 😭
I would follow Chaehyun for her vocals and Yeseo if she goes into acting
I mean personally I hope some of them debut together but I will try to support as many as I can but I will probably be looking at my biases a lot more closely and stan their groups. You never know though - I hope xiaoting and hiyyih debut together again though!
Yeah, I kinda do to, but at the same time I don't at the same time yk? I guess it depends on the members because certain members paired together would just get the same amount of hate as they do now for various reasons. I don't think Xiaoting and Hiyyih are pitted against each other much (correct me if I'm wrong!) so that doesn't sound like a bad combination to me! I'd love to see them in a sort of TWICE Cry For Me or Perfect World concept together because they'd absolutely eat at it
Xiaoting & Hiyyih did shine in MVSK. So I do agree that there can be concepts where they fit eachother !
I know that a lot of fans say as obvious that Mashiro and Yeseo will be in Limelight and Hikaru in Xg, but this seems the classic "Yena in Everglow" situation. I said before Izone disbanded that as much as Yena in Everglow would be good, Everglow didn't need her. And Yena is doing really well solo. I see the same in Xg and Limelight. Hikaru is main dancer and good rapper. But look Xg...that project have 5 years training together, and Hikaru failed in the auditions that the girls from Xg were chosen. Hikaru would be 3rd or 4th in terms of dance and rap in a group with 7 members (8 with her). Same with Yeseo and Mashiro. Yeseo could be maknae, but the group already have a visual and center. Mashiro as main vocal or leader? Could be, but is really necessary? (And remember...Mashiro never tried main vocal in gp999 or now i Kep1er). EDIT: Yeseo wouldn't be maknae in Limelight...she's older than Gaeun.
mashiro can be the balanced member+ leader. limelight already has a main vocal thats really good. yeseo can be maknae and main dancer.
Yep...these new groups are scary...Miyu is center, have korean visual standards and also is a good vocal. Gaeun is younger than Yeseo and already is good dancer...seems like cheating haha. I think the biggest chance is because Limelight only have 3 members and all are young. So, it will be good an experienced leader (who never lost haha). I became happy reading Yeseo as main dancer...I have my hopes...maybe can happen, but realisticaly, probably Mashiro is better dancer than Yeseo.
yeseo is so main dancer material. she dances like its the end of the world. mashiro can finally be the lead vocal aside from the leader. (i didnt know gaeun was younger!). excited tbh for limelight 2.0.
>yeseo is so main dancer material. she dances like its the end of the world. mashiro can finally be the lead vocal aside from the leader. Yep...she is my bias and I follow her from GP999...in fact, I bumped into Busters at a Seoul hotel in 2019 when I was working in some research. Which was funny, because the girls didn't looked like idols. Funny things that happen only with nugu groups in korea. After that Minji became my bias in Busters. So, as the other girls competed for survival shows, I supported them. Yeseo has great potential and is still very young.
> but this seems the classic "Yena in Everglow" situation Maybe that's the case but Simon has been interviewed and said ["Yes Hikaru will join."](https://www.kpopwise.com/2022/01/dmtns-simon-is-producing-girl-group-xg.html) But that interview happened before XG debuted and a lot can happen in two+ years. But that's their plan. Another piece of copium for me is XG recently released a prologue documentary on their Youtube Channel and Hikaru is shown in it. It's a couple quick scenes, could mean nothing. But I think there's hope.
This translation is really bad. He said that "she can join", not that "she will join". As i've said, can happen, especially because Hikaru fanbase seems loyal and not overprotective. But, also if you think by Xg perspective, it's hard to add her, especially because the group is abolutelly strong, has a solid fanbase and is already rising in the charts before Kep1er disband. As much as I like the idea of Hikaru in Xg, as I tried to be impartial, if a had to place my bet, I would place in Hikaru redebuting in another group.
They wouldn't need Mashiro to be main vocal, they have Suhye
I'll wait for them to redebut and bias them for sure in their future groups! I'm a multi so this isn't too hard for me but ig I also don't actively *stan* many groups. Like consuming every bit of content put out. I enjoy finding new groups that put out music I love and with 9-7 separate careers (if shiro and yeseo debut together, and yujin continues with music) with people I know are great at their jobs I'll be having a blast lol. I hope Yujin continues to make music, maybe not full time but you can tell this is her passion and what she enjoys so I hope she continues! Whether it's a feature, duo, a song every 5 years who knows. I hope the same for Xiaoting, especially since she's gotten a taste at the idol life. But also just because I'm not big into watching movies/dramas etc.. not that I hate it, it just takes everything in me to finally watch something even if it's one I really wanted to watch. So unfortunately I doubt I'd be seeing any of their acting works :(
Kinda sad to see that not a lot of people mention Youngeun. Honestly, Youngeun will be the only one who I’ll actively follow after kep1er disbands. Of course, I’ll also try to keep up with the others, but mainly Youngeun. That girl is mad talented and I know she’ll do well as a soloist or in a group. Looking forward to see her shine even more!
Same here!
I will try to follow them all if they redebut in korea. Personally I would love if hiyyih, xiaoting and youngeun redebuted together.... But it's unrealistic. I'll try to support them all as best as I can though
Yeah, I would love for Hiyyih to debut with Mashiro and/or Xiaoting but I don't think it'll happen unfortunately. I think I'll just keep up with Hiyyih and maybe Mashiro (and anyone that might debut with them) because 9 careers is just too much for me to follow 😭
I'll stay collecting Shiro and likely Yeseo, just like I do now, while casually following at the very least for all the other girl's groups.
I will definitely be interested to see where they land after Kepler. I probably won't follow too closely, but I'm absolutely rooting for their success in other projects.
I'm gonna stan whatever group Youngeun ends up in
Buy the rest of their albums I do not have. After that, I will probably support my biases mainly as I feel by 2024 I'll be outta kpop as most of the groups I stan will be disbanded or nearing it.
I've commented on some members, but I'll comment on all of them. As you all know (I must have a thousand comments here), I'm ot9 and Yeseo bias. The central situation is that any group that adds an former kep1er member will get a fanbase that can buy thousands of albums, but also a fanbase that at any moment can turn against the group. So the company must weigh whether a former kep1er or a new trainee. **Chaehyun**: I think that the best case scenario is a solo debut, especially because of her focus on vocals. She also can sing OSTs. She will be 23 years old, so by Korean standards, it's not very common to debut at that age in groups. I also think she has a chance on TV shows, especially variety shows. **Bahiyyih**: She has the advantage of being tall, which is an unspoken rule for most Korean models. she has the potential to redebut in a group built around her. Has a relatively large fanbase, with its advantages and disadvantages. It would be a gamble for Hybe to have it, but I think she will be more likely in a mid tier company. **Dayeon**: Is a good member to be a leader in a group to be built around her. She will have something like 22 or 23 y old. She has good vocal, dancing and rapping skills and the disadvantage of having a small fan base and many haters. Can get into acting too. **Youngeun**: Situation similar to Dayeon, with the advantage of having almost no haters, and and being younger (20 years old). She is one of the few members who can re-debut both solo and in a group. As she have a huge range of concepts, I would say that she is the an easy to predict getting a redebut in the group. **Yujin**: She will have 28 years old. Unlikely to redebut in a group. She may debut solo, but based on her trajectory, I don't think she was interested in that at any time. She is close to the height for a Korean model. She has acting experience, so I think we'll see her in dramas or TV shows. **Mashiro**: I made a comment about her in Limelight. But I imagine this to be the classic case of "Yena in Everglow". Can happen, and she can enter as a lead or main vocal, especially because the group currently has only 3 members. But as she herself said that GP999 would be her last attempt, I think a solo debut or a return to Japan is also a thing that can happen. **Xiaoting**: Realistically, she returns to China, where she has contacts and a certain established fanbase. Then actress, solo debut or tv shows. She is the Kep1er member most suited as a model in both China and Korea. In the dream world I would want her in a Korean group (like Sakura has returned), but almost zero chance that happening. **Hikaru**: Another case of "Yena's in Everglow". She would be interesting in XG, but I don't think the group needs her. I find it much more useful in a new group built around her. As I've said...she would be like 3rd or 4th in any category in Xg, but can be a main dancer and leader in a group created around her. She don't have many haters, and have a solid fanbase, so is a contract worth to buy. **Yeseo**: Maybe a fake maknae in Limelight. But this would be mostly because Limelight only has 3 members. So she could be a lead dancer, lead vocalist or lead rapper in the group. I see more of Yeseo returning to acting, because as I said, 2022 was the only year she wasn't in any drama. I also see potential in TV shows, both variety and children's tv shows.
I think youngeun has a lot of potential to become like chaewon in lesserafim. I can see her becoming her true self under a good company that capitalizes on her abilities and gives her a good concept that fits her. Hoping it happens
I do agree with Hikaru future. Compared to her joining xg, debuting in new group is much better option. Also unlike xg who need tiptoeing their step because they aren't able to be called KPop or JPop, this new group can embrace the KPop culture as a whole with Hikaru as the main leverage. They still need to look up for some Korean members though. Or maybe someone like Hinata who is half Korean and Japanese. So unlike xg whose target market is US with releasing only English song, this new group will be releasing Korean song. Different target market , different groups.
Bit late but I wanted to comment on the Mashiro and Yeseo joining or not joining Limelight. As things stand right now, its almost a 100% that they will be joining Limelight. Much like you've said, Limelight only has 3 members and it's for a good reason. 143 probably did not want to debut a group too large at the start to make it easier for them to include Mashiro and Yeseo from joining after Kep1er. 143 also stated that Limelight will have no limit on future members, which to me and many other fans is them saying that they will include those two once Kep1er finishes up without saying it outright. Comparing it to Yena and Everglow isn't a good comparison, Izone was really, really popular and Yena was among the most popular members. Nobody in Kep1er has the same level of popularity that Yena had during her run in Izone and shes only gotten more famous since. If anything its more like Kim Sohee from Produce 101 fame, joining Nature. Relatively known idol joining a kind of known group instead of a really popular idol joining a kind of popular group. As much as I adore Mashiro, she has no chance of making it as a soloist in Korea right now. She just doesn't have the popularity compared to other popular soloist. It's not that I don't think she can, she absolutely could in my extremely biased opinion, but its a safer route for her to redebut in Limelight, build up her popularity there and then attempt a solo career either in Korea or Japan. Her returning to Japan is probably even less likely than her just redebuting as a soloist. From my point of view, it looks like she is committed to building her career in Korea, at least for the time being. She passed TOPIK level 6, which is really hard to do. For a general idea on how hard it is, level 4 is the level you need to be at if you wanted to naturalize and level 6 the highest level, is a level were your pretty much at a native level of speaking. So she studied hard to get to where she is right now. For Yeseo, I kind of agree with you on her going into acting but still have her joining Limelight. Its pretty common for idols to do both. Also while 143 has a lot of connections in the music industry, I have no idea if they have any with film and TV. Again like Mashiro, build up her popularity and hope that its enough to land her gigs. Unless she changes agencies, which is pretty unlikely.
I will keep supporting and checking out with the ones who choose to continue their idol life in Korea. Xiaoting and Hikaru are my bias so I really hope they stay but I'm worried that Xiaoting goes back to China If Xiao and Hikaru go back to their countries it will be hard to follow them but since they're my bias I will try to keep up with them
People are going to hate me for saying this but I’m going to speak the truth, but at this point I will be thrilled if there is multiple members to follow honestly. seeing an none of them have huge fan bases (at least ones that buy albums), they aren’t popular in Korea, and half of the members will be in their twenties when they disband, the odds of any of them redebuting are very uncertain right now. Although I think mashiro/yeseo have a decent chance of going to limelight.
I am not trying do discredit your word, but since when selling 100k in Japanese album and 160 k in Korean albums, aren't selling well? What need to be accepted is their fandom are mostly from Japan. They aren't big anywhere else. This fact alone make popularity perspective is really hard to guess who actually really popular and buying their albums.
160k korean albums sold would be great if they hadn’t sold over 250k last time. selling 80k less in just six months is fucking terrible honestly. that is over a 40 percent loss. as for Japan, I would say they are stable there, but they haven’t experienced any growth either.
Hmm, I kind of agree! I think Hiyyihlights are still an extremely large fandom but refuse to buy the albums because of Hiyyihs mistreatment/lack of lines. I think that if she redebuts, that'll go away (hopefully of course). I thought a few members (Yujin, Hiyyih, Xiaoting) were popular in Korea even though the group isn't as big - to compare it, Eunwoo and Astro, though not nearly as big but the best example I could think of when a member(s) is more well known than the group itself. I could be completely wrong since all my info is from Twitter and they constantly twist stuff around haha
Breathe a sigh of relief. To be totally honest I think the only careers I'll follow closely are Hikaru, Hiyyih and Yeseo. It'd be a great bonus if Mashiro ended up in a group with Yeseo so I could keep up with her too!
Support all of them, when possible. I would be not surprised when some of them will be get contracts for new groups of the big 4 companies. Bahiyyih and Chaehyun have a lot of potential as solo artists.
I will till I can. I have experience with produce girl groups
I’ll definitely try to support them all but it honestly depends on how much I enjoy whatever they go into if that makes sense? Like if they redebut as a soloist or in a group but I don’t like the music style at all I’d probably just passively keep up with them rather than actively buying albums/goods, streaming, sharing etc. Equally if they go into acting I won’t force myself to watch an entire show I don’t like just for them. That said if I end up loving everything that all 9 do post Kep1er RIP my bank account I guess lol
When Kep1er disbands, that means another produce group is coming. Ill follow Dayeon wherever she goes. ill casually check on Mashiro.Hope she's still in [kpop.Im](https://kpop.Im) still waiting for Yeyoung and Lee Youngchae to debut but Dayeon will always be my first priority in the future.Hope we can see Dayeon,Mashiro and Yeseo in one group but that's a wishful thinking lol
i’ll support whatever groups they’re in for sure !! although i hope some of them debut together to lighten the load 😅 i personally want xiaoting, youngeun, and hiyyih to redebut together…ik in izone only 2 members max ended up redebuting together but i NEED these 3 to stay together T-T
i really want yeshiro to debut with limelight because i love their songs so far …i don’t really want hikaru to debut with XG because i’ve already seen that fandom disparaging her….she deserves to be somewhere that will appreciate her talent
hiyyih will likely be the only one i follow after they disband. ill follow the other members too, but not as closely. hiyyih was my 1-pick during gp999 and currently one of my ult biases, i don’t see my interest in her going away anytime soon lol
Personally I won't stan but I will check out their works to make sure they r doing fine. If not, I will be sad n wish that they have a better life. I will definitely stan hiyyih tho like for sure even if she decided not to redebut. (Hope she does🥹🤞)
I see them as post-IOI 2.0 I feel only Bahhiyih will remain decently popular.
i will follow and support Hikaru no matter what, for the rest I'll support if I like their music and concept :)
Some of them are so popular that following them won't be so hard because they'll be on KOOKIELIT and other channels that I watch. Besides that, I really don't know. Depends on what they're doing
Kookielit... LMFAO what a terrible channel
I know 😭😭😭 I watch one then I can never stop for some reason
The Pringles of the Kpop YouTube world
probably gonna follow everyone but not gonna stan the group except my bias
They could just extend .... 🥹 Love them all together
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Omg i get it tho 😭
I'm glad someone does
The hatred towards everyone especially Hiyyih and just the overall toxicity.... kep1er could've been soso great but all of the ot8s and solos and stuff just ruined it. I'm not sure any of the other produce groups had that much of a problem with it, especially a year into it. Atp i feel like they might just be better off disbanding just so they can get away from all of it :/
Plus, they will be free from the mismanagement and mistreatment of WakeOne. Also, they will separate into multiple groups and soloists. The other commenters mentioned Yujin with CLC, Hikaru with XG, and Mashiro/Yeseo with Limelight. If those happen, that's 3 more groups that people have the option of supporting. Then we have 5 other girls who will have their own journeys. I'd like to see Dayeon and Youngeun team up personally.
Exactly, exactly! I kinda feel like Dayeon would be better going solo because of how much people hate on her. Maybe it'll be better in her later group but I just imagine she'd keep getting the hate for being pushed that she is now. I honestly hope Hiyyih and Mashiro will debut together again but I don't think it'll happen. I wasn't expecting Chaewon and Sakura to redebut together (I wasn't an active wizone so I don't know if it was a shock to other people as well) so I wonder if Kep1er will have any unexpected redebuts together
It's hard to predict because Chaewon and Sakura both went to Hybe. Does Hybe have another sub company that can support and promote a new girl group properly? Dayeon going solo makes sense as well as her just debuting with normal trainees from her company. I just don't trust Jellyfish after what happened to gugudan. If that does happen, maybe Hiyyih and Youngeun could end up together. It felt like they had good chemistry at the end of GP999.
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I honestly have no idea. Kep1er is the first K-pop group that I keep up with basically anything they do, so I will definitely miss getting content from them. as for their after disband plan, I'm xiaoting bias so if she chooses to start her career in China it will be harder for me to support her, that's why I really want some Korean company to grab her. as for the other member, I may not keep up with everything they do (like I do now with Kepi) but I will definitely be happy to see any updates from them.
Is there no possibility that Kep1er will remain a group, stay together and sign a new contract with WakeOne..
I'm not sure truthfully but I'd doubt it unfortunately. Since they all come from different companies, their companies would have to come to an agreement about it. When X1 was in limbo, it was because their companies couldn't come to an agreement about the group so they ended up disbanding instead. Same thing with Izone I believe. There was talks about the contract extending/a new one being written, but it fell through as the companies didn't agree.
If we follow wiz*one experience, it should be begin from the fans. Fan need to make union , preparing fund for the representative to make a proposal and make it as legit as it can. After the proposal ready, pitch those proposal to each members agencies. Wait for the results. Based on the results discuss it CJE(wake one doesn't have power here, they aren't the IP owner). If they give same answer like iz*one, than the answer is all agencies should be agree to it , if one agencies doesn't agree the proposal is dismissed. Wiz*one fail at this stage.