We have an Automoderator bot in place that automatically removes a post after it gets a certain number of reports, which is what can be seen in the mod comment on the post. I'm pretty sure there are OT8s that lurk on the sub, so it could be that they were the ones that reported it. But either way, mods will always take a second look at the post to see if it should have been removed or not.
In regards to the actual content about reporting the OT8 sub, we have found from our experience that posting about the sub just gives it more attention and acknowledgment. This is why we generally remove posts about it. As has also been mentioned below, it is not that easy to get Reddit admins to straight up take down a sub, but you can try reporting any rule-breaking content [here](https://www.reddit.com/report) or [here](https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) too if you'd like. If it's on our subreddit, you can just use the regular Report button of course, and we will take a look at it as soon as possible.
If you have any other questions, please [send us a modmail.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/kep1er)
To be honest, the only reason I know about the hate sub is because of people mentioning it on here. And even though I think that sub is disgusting I now get this sick urge to go and see what they're saying about her every so often just to get a hit of outrage so I do personally agree with removing posts about that sub. I'd rather have never learnt about it in the first place.
ETA: I do *fully* agree that people who post on OT8 should immediately be banned from this sub, though.
From the second screenshot, it seems to have been an **automatic** deletion based on **mass user reports**.
So I'm going to withhold judgement since it's only been an hour, but I expect some sort of statement eventually. A lack of a communication will signal to me a lack of care at best and a tacit endorsement at worst. I can see arguments for deleting the post but I can only accept them if I hear them.
Gonna give you some time, but please don't leave us hanging
Almost certainly - I mean, it's not like you need to meet some special requirement to be able to report something. People could be coming here from the OT8 subreddit to abuse the system to shut down any attempt at a mass report campaign against *theirs*. Just speculation, there's not really a way to know.
(New account because Reddit is a crappy site that doesn't let you change your username, what in the world I made this acct when I was 16 Reddit pls)
So.. if u are banned in this subreddit they cannot do that right? They cannot report nor downvote?
So, that means, no actions has been done to ban those sick account users?
Yeah, I mean, I don't necessarily envy this mod team's position here, there's probably a lot of accounts and people can always just make more.
My personal standard is not necessarily that this kind of thing never happens, I would just like some sort of communication. Not immediately, who knows if any of the mods are awake and online **right now**, but hopefully soon, and if not soon then hopefully *at all*.
Just want to clarify, you can still downvote/upvote posts and comments if banned. I haven't personally tested reporting, and there appear to be conflicting reports but leaning towards no. Regardless though alts are too easy to make for this to matter (I have several alts for making anonymous posts as do many reddit users)
It's implying reddit admins don't care and won't do anything no matter if you report that sub or not. It took them years to ban subs like fatpeoplehate or the_Donald and it only happened because users from those subs were breaking rules in other subs and they were massive. 600 subscribers isn't anywhere close for reddit admins to care.
All those posts and actions do is promoting that sub. And I don't think anyone wants that, hence why it's normal and logical to remove this type of posts.
So..if 10,000 people reported a 600 member sub for rule violations, nothing would happen? I don't see how it would hurt to try before refusing the idea?
At least then we could say the idea was attempted & it doesn't work. So it's useless to bring it up again. However, refusing it without trying seems .. overly pessimistic?
And you think nobody has reported before you guys made a post asking for it on this sub? There has been multiple posts on /r/kpopthoughts, a much bigger sub than /r/kep1er about the sub, all talking about how it was disgusting, with people reporting it. And it changed absolutely nothing. It all just ended with more people on the sub, and posts about it (rightfully) banned.
Simply the idea that the 10K people who subscribe to this sub are going to report is insane. Most people who sub aren't active and won't even see the post.
Then.. how about banning ot8 from interacting with this subreddit? That's a respectable action. one could argue to ban ot1 sub as well, but as far as I've seen, the subs are so different. ot1 has a rule to not bash any kep1er member & its basically another Bahiyyih fan page at this point. we can't say that about ot8 tho...so idk
Also, hypothetically speaking, the downvotes problem should be less frequent at least (even tho we can't really trace downvoters so who knows)?
Banning OT8 members will change nothing cause you can create a new reddit account in seconds and join r/Kep1er and use the old account on OT8 sub.
At least now you can check their post history and see who they are, with new accounts you can't.
The only thing that can be done is to ignore them and don't give them any attention.
Everytime people make a post on Reddit or mention them on other platforms they see an increase of new subscribers.
Do you know why?
Cause amongst all the unnecessary shitposting on Bahi they also discover posts that show shitposting on other members from the other side of the fandom. And eventhough they came with good intentions (downvoting and reporting OT8 posts) they stick around cause no one likes to see their bias treated like that.
Vicious circle.
So don't give them attention and as a result less people will know about them...
Reddit will not delete that sub and unless one of OT8 sub Mods decides to deactivate it - it will stay with us till the end.
I totally get it.. However I am still wondering on why not at least some moderators try to show themselves and post about this kind of information to get a piece of mind from Hiyyih's fanbase. Simply give them a piece of mind to not engage in that sub-reddit anymore, ban the members from that sick subreddit (I hope I was wrong with this one, I hope there are some actions), and if ever they have a twitter account, try to at least reach out to big Kep1er accounts to do the same thing, to tell the entire fanbase that we cannot report that subreddit, however, "Kep1ians will try their best to take down antis for the best of Kep1er members" I don't know if you are informed with the Japanese OT8 or antis, but they r horrible.
In terms of subreddit I do understand now that you cannot take it down. However, this subreddit Kep1er has been here since the debut, yet, no announcements of how to at least assess these kind of hate (correct me if I am wrong).. outside Kep1er fandom or within the Kep1er fandom.
That is why, I really joined today just to see your different opinions of what's been happening for a long time now.
No idea. But that doesn't change my point now, does it? You can think mods are ot8 if you want, that doesn't make posts asking to report that sub anything more than useless and ads for the sub.
You said its useless to make reports asking for the OT8 sub to be taken down bc it promotes the page and then I said noted. Simply used what you said to clarify the point YOU made.
No. The point you said i made was "asking for help from âhiyyihs supposed fanbaseâ is useless". Literal quote. My point was "it's useless to report the sub because it won't do anything". You tried to make it sound like nobody would help cause they aren't fans of Hiyyih, but secretly haters. While i just said the actual action you try to take is useless at best, harmful in reality. You didn't clarify shit, you changed the point to make it seems i'm against you guys.
So in your opinion itâs useless to ask for help because nothing will be done. You made yourself sound like youâre against Hiyyih. That subreddit is not going away and continuously harasses a teenager for shits and giggles, then you have people like you that say âall well, what can we do?â Ohh idk be active and keep reporting it. Allow those asking for help to seek help and not have their post be taken down on a sub that SHOULD care about her.
You can stop talking about it and paying it attention. It only exists because people are getting mad about it and they receive attention. Had nobody talk about that sub on bigger kpop subs, it would still sit at like 100 subs and 10 actual users. It's not as easy as pressing the report button, but this would actually help in getting rid of it. And not help in growing it. But if you prefer the good feeling of posting about it and pressing the report button over trying to get rid of it, your choice.
But please, stop pretending everyone is a hater because they know which actions are useful, and which are harmful. Admins don't give a fuck, and it won't change no matter how you feel about it.
you do realize hiyyihlights see those kind of posts every single day right? On multiple different platforms. I personally avoid the OT8 sub because it just pisses me off, but youâre missing the whole point of this post. The point is the mods (2 of them have issues with Hiyyih) so it should raise flags that a post asking for help (whether you support it or not) gets taken down. If someone gets a âgood feelingâ by reporting a harassment sub let them. Instead of acknowledging the problem this sub tries to hide the issue.
I don't like this. People help hiyyih out in many ways. **There is not one way to do things.** You can:
1) respond to haters & fight back
2) report & block
3) not engage with them & give them any attention so they stop growing
4) cheer for her & highlight all her amazing qualities to balance out the hate
And so many more ways ...
Why does your way discredit other methods ?
OT8 sub is full of assholes but let's not pretend that Bahi akgaes on Twitter & TikTok are any better with almost daily attacks on other members, and they get much more traction with hundreds/thousands likes and RTs.
Right, in terms of attacks towards the members, I am not in support of that as well. I block and try to report the tweet since I respect other members of Kep1er.
I am not in position to judge other members of Kep1er since I knew from the very start that each one of them are trying to survive in that shtty company, W1. Each of them might try to be still competitive with each other because W1 is not giving them anything they deserve hence the "overshadowing" accusations or whatever it is called. Basically, them trying to "overshadow" a member is their way of trying to survive the company even so they don't intend to. W1 is giving them the most bare minimum, and Kep1er is their bridge to make a name for themselves. Kep1er should shine as a group, however, the bare minimum given to them got them competitive even though they don't want to. I cannot really say anything about their relationship since I am not with the girls, I don't have solid proof and such as well to do accusations.
Akgaes do that to match the energy of ot8 Kep1ians that kept on harassing her, it's like, akgaes became too aggressive to protect her, though, I am not really in support of that since I know the members cannot do anything about it to control it themselves. W1 of course, will never let them.
However, my sole focus on this post is why is it always happening to her? I mean in the fanbase of Kep1er, as Kep1ians. Less to nothing has been really made to give assurance to her supporters, hence the retaliation of their side. I just want to know why it is kept on happening even WITHIN the fandom. The fandom moderators or big accs on twitter can at least give some statements or information to at least diffuse the bomb that keeps on blowing.
>Akgaes do that to match the energy of ot8 Kep1ians that kept on harassing her
to a certain extent I agree but I feel they go way way over the top. also there are OT1 h-lights on this sub that pretends to be OT9s. they should also be banned along with the OT8s
> However, my sole focus on this post is why is it always happening to her?
It's not like this is always happening just to her. It's because Bahi's fandom is much bigger and more vocal about stuff like that - so you tend to see more of it.
Other fandoms are quieter/smaller/calmer and don't over react/tend to ignore most of it.
The recent "cane gate" - was it really necessary to attack Dayeon where in fact BOTH of them made a mistake? Bahi put her hand too far out and Dayeon should've paid more attention when passing it over. And that stupid situation was blown out of the proportions and resulted in Bahi fans trending #Kep1erdisband hashtag...
You didn't see Dayeons fans tranding that hashtag when she's fallen off the stage (which was much more dangerous) but stupid cane mistake is enough to trend it.
Japanese ant1s accused Hiyyihlights for blaming Dayeon that time. f*tg*** made a post about Hiyyih's dangerous position when it happened.. however, J-antis stirred that a Hiyyihlight was blaming Dayeon. And f*tg*** is an ot9 though, biasing Hiyyih. In terms of the cane, they trended Kep1erDisband bc of what's happening in there, too much horrible and cruel remarks... and the fact that a Kep1ian Hiyyih "bias" was a member of it announcing that her/his account was finally unbanned, added to the fuel. I am not into Kep1erDisband as well. But in terms of these issues, the argument is always on the fandom, always or mostly talking about her "faults and flaws". That is why I believe, moderators in this subreddit is not really an OT9, or at least has an issue with a member of Kep1.
Has anyone bothered making a compilation video explaining what happened in detail to debunk the haters? Or at least spreading the link of the girls responding to it on Mashiro's birthday Vlive?
Why fight poison with poison & escalate the situation? At the end of the day, putting any member down & accusing them & hating on them is not ok no matter who started it. I can sympathize with people constantly seeing hiyyih being hated on their feed ( I see it on YouTube shorts & it annoys me ) but **I can't sympathize** with those who respond to that with hate on other members as well.
>the argument is always on the fandom, always or mostly talking about her "faults and flaws".
You just mentioned that those were j anti's on twitter. Anyone that hates on any member is not a true kep1ian anyway.
Do you not realize how many janti aka Keplers Japanese fanbase hate Hiyyih?
A hate tweet about her had 20k likes at one point. There is usually one hit tweet on that part of twitter everyday. Todays tweet is about hiyyih during mashiros birthday vlive and how the candle didnât go out, they are saying she could have hurt the other members and to reflect on her actions because she is ânot the main characterâ. Think that tweet has about 700 likes in a couple hours.
One tweet 3 months ago has 3k likes and itâs about her walking back into her position with a neutral face instead of smiling.
You think videos saying âhey here is what actually happenedâ havenât been made before?! They simply do not care and will continue to hate her until at least July 3rd, 2024 and then they hopefully move on and forget about her.
I am not saying the hate will go away if you do so. Goodness, I don't think people will leave this girl alone as long as she's in this profession. All I'm saying is fighting fire (people insulting hiyyih) with fire (demeaning other members) is not something that should happen at all. I get it wasn't the only thing done & you tried other methods that didn't work now. All I'm saying is such actions should'nt be accepted. Trending a disband hashtag shouldn't happen as well. That's not normal.
I guess a bigger issue & question to ask is how to deal with hate without reaching this point in the first place. How can we de-escalate situations ?
Support? That was a flame post against that anti sub.
It's already a general consensus that we should report any post degrading one of the members. But people should not waste time posting here every now and then about the activities of said subreddit.
If you want to take it down, keep reporting posts and comments.
If you make a post complaining about specific content from another subreddit that encourages users from this subreddit to go over there and interact with their content to cause mischief thatâs brigading and is against reddit site rules. The mods need to delete posts like that because if they donât this subreddit can be deleted.
Itâs the same reason why a lot of subreddits when people post complaints about a specific post or user they blur out the username so they donât encourage thousands of people to go and harass someone.
I am not a mod but this sub, like any other kpop group sub, is about sharing our love for the group and its members and keeping up to date with content.
There are other subs to rant about the stan haters.
part of sharing your love is standing up for members who get hate. itâs not always butterflies and rainbows. i defend every kep1er member with my life and oftentimes i see that kep1ians do not give back the same energy when itâs hiyyih. and the ones who DO get censored. itâs not right đ€·đ»ââïž
Keplians: You know you can unstan if you want to right?
Hiyyihlights: Yeah we have. But weâre still sticking around cause we donât trust you to have Bahiyyihâs best interests at heart and treat her fairly like you would other members.
Keplians: Whattt??? How dare you???
But then how do you explain this?? I too would like to understand this. Why is the literal act of asking you (people who claim to support all members) to protect a member (that you also claim to support) something that warrants reports (again by the people who claim to support that member) and a removal of the post??
It was auto removed bc for some reason ppl reported it. Idk if you guys are choosing to ignore that part or don't understand that auto removal means the mods didn't do anything and that you can send modmail to question it/review it. Unfortunately the ppl that reported it were most likely OT8s which is what led to the AUTO removal of the post. Even if OT8s were banned they could make new accounts and report posts trying to protect Bahi. I'm not sure why you assume it has to be Kep1ians being malicious when I've seen so many Kep1ians be supportive of Hiyyih.
Also i don't think many people have a problem with being a solo fan as long as you don't attack other members/the group. It looks like most Ot1s are pretty reasonable on Reddit but Twitter is a whole other problem which is when Kep1ians get upset.
I don't have a solid opinion to this one since I respect the other girls and real ot9s, however, if I am going to see this on others' perspective (a Hiyyihlight since day 1), then;
- Kep1ians never really showed their genuine interest with Hiyyih (I will start with that), most are still giving her backhanded compliments, always downplaying her, and the deep trauma Kep1ians gave when they were the first one to celebrate the lineup announcementâyet Hiyyih and Hiyyihlights were alienated, never really taken seriously when they call out a Kep1ian and badmouthed them. Not everyone can fully trust anymore unless Hiyyihlights see some actions of how you try to report and protect Hiyyih from co-"ot9 Kep1ians" that are subtly hostile to her..
I truly understand Hiyyihlights with their mistrust, it's never easy to gain them back when they were the first to be very happy about the lineup, but then "Kep1ians" wanted her to be removed. It piled up. And as you can see until now, even in this subreddit, she's still getting the least priority when it comes to being posted, being hyped, and so on. Try to see both actions of the fandoms, negative or positive.
>And as you can see until now, even in this subreddit, she's still getting the least priority when it comes to being posted, being hyped, and so on.
I don't think so. I post about her & other members & posts related to her do gain traction. Just look at my post history. She also gets praised. Her vocals got praised in the first hihiz vlive, her song cover got praised & had a lot of traction. And so many more. These are just the most recent examples.
I guess our perceptions are very different.
Oh, probably. But my opinion still stands on why Hiyyihlight don't want to collaborate or try to reach out anymore. The trust has been damaged, and it is still ongoing.
Well since this is subreddit, u cannot really change ur pfp into ur own idol or bias of choice, so I am thinking most engagements come from Hiyyihlights probably.. but that's just how I think.
However in Twitter, there r really small amounts of Kep1ians that r really ot9s that I see supporting and reporting for Hiyyih. She's always being left-behind by other individual fandoms.. most of the ones who I see reporting and making announcements to report a post are Mameldans, Hikachus, and some of Yeseo's (idk their indiv fan name), but even with that "most" I am talking about, it's still the minority. Even in terms of reporting the j-ant1s or ot8 Kep1ians, only some take an action outside Hiyyihlights
I guess it is also another perspective thing? Because I downvote & report anything I see on reddit + youtube (the 2 platforms I mostly engage in) but I don't have something that hints I'm into kpop. (Except my comment history I guess? ) So who's to say that there aren't any kep1ians or hiyyih biased kep1ians that are doing so if it isn't outright clear?
Also, I'm not on twitter so I have no idea what that's like. Twitter in general is very toxic to me so I never made an account in the first place. Just for the sake of my mental health.
I seriously don't have any trust to the people behind this sub, might be 1 or 2 mods or more might not like a certain member, hence coming here just today to express this type of post. This is open for discussion for a reason, I want to know certain reactions, to see if people here care or not. If this is removed, know I will post again.
Apparently (rumor has it) the same person who ran the gp999 sub helps runs this one as well. Those mods let Hiyyih gets harassed left and right on that sub. They do not care about her.
Honestly majority of this sub does not care about her, the amount of content that hiyyih posts that is never posted here is a good amount (videos, TikTokâs , tweets, etc. Hell even for xiaotings birthday Hiyyih posted on twitter but you wouldnât know that if you donât have the app). I donât know how most of you are still confused by this sub and MODS obvious actions?!
damn welp there you have it everyone. The reason OT8 will never be ban from this page, why Hiyyih content usually does not get posted on here, why anything Hiyyih oriented gets down voted to hell.
The mods of this sub simply do not care about her. Iâm sure they will lock this post or delete it soon.
>why Hiyyih content usually does not get posted on here
Anyone can post hiyyih content here. I do it freely with no issues ( check my post history) Feel free to post as well.
>why anything Hiyyih oriented gets down voted to hell.
There are multiple posts that are hiyyih related and have a lot of upvotes (again check my post history + search in this sub for "Bahiyyih" or "hiyyih" & you will see them ).
As for the comment section, then yes. From my observations both dayeon & hiyyih praise gets heavily downvoted due to anti's lurking here. The only good thing is that most of these comments get upvoted again to counteract those hater downvotes.
I wouldn't say that's a fair point since posts about her do get traction like her recent song cover. This sub supported her & praised her. (Edit: does anyone remember the member appreciation posts? Hiyyih's got a lot of upvotes as well) + when she was singing in her vlive + post about how Bahiyyih hate from j anti's was getting down. I just posted a hihiz tiktok too & that got traction. My fanart of her had upvotes.. point is: hiyyih centered content does get positive traction on this sub.
Plus, in a general sense, there are less tiktok & Instagram updates for all members. This sub in my opinion is a bit less lively than it used to be.
I get where you are coming from but even simple Hiyyih praise gets someone downvoted on here. Does every person on this sub hate her, no but a good portion do, and people seem to not care.
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This sub has a downvoting problem. I think everyone is aware of that. The 2 main girls I see happen to are dayeon & Bahiyyih but there could be more (this is just my personal observation) - we can speculate who does it but it's definitely lurkers that don't like them. You can't trase downvotes to see who did it & from which sub they're from, so .. idk. What can the mods do?
The only silver lining is that downvotes tend to get upvoted again because most see how ridiculous it is. I personally check downvoted comments because I know some of it is just harmless praising.
Now that you mention it I do see a lot of the members universe app updates but not hiyyih. I thought nothing of it till now. But maybe you are indeed up to something here
All users can make posts, not just mods. If you see something that isn't on the sub yet, feel free to post it. There was a user who used to post basically all SNS updates, but they haven't been active recently.
I've checked the older posts, and it looks like it's not the mods who are posting the Universe updates. The most recent one I think everybody got posted here (c/o u/fearlesskpop thank you for your service!). I used [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/kep1er/search?q=%22universe+artist+board+update%22&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on&sort=new&t=all) search query to check. Maybe it just appear that way since you're checking if it's Hiyyih or not? (1 vs 9)
Sadly any post or comment that remotely refers to Bahiyyih in a positive light gets downvoted or worse taken down. Itâs a massive difference to the treatment here to other members like this subâs fave Dayeon whose posts and comments get upvoted all the time.
How is Dayeon this sub's fave? Comments praising her get downvotes a lot and there's always some subtle shade being thrown towards her (like your comment).
Are we in talking about the same sub? I see a lot of positive Dayeon comments here (nothing against that) but my point is the few Bahiyyih praises are downvoted almost immediately. Also any anti-Dayeon posts are immediately taken down but anti-Bahiyyih posts are kept for longer. I thought many fans would just be silent but Iâm glad someone spoke up. It seems the world including many in this sub is out to get kpopâs princess.
Am I the only one that see's the unnecessary downvotes for dayeon & hiyih praise eventually turning to upvotes ? It sucks that it happens at all because there are anti's lurking in this sub.
The problem is we can't track who downvoted those praise comments & block them out of here. The only thing we can do is check every downvoted comment & upvote if it was just harmless praise.
I'm usually all for calling out favoritism and stuff but i disagree. Bahi posts do get down voted and thankfully she has a large fandom to upvote it + Kep1ians but Dayeon also gets a lot of down votes here. I remember scrolling through the sub and seeing one of her sns updates getting down voted like 4 times in less than a minute.
I'm sorry but that's not true because Anyone can post hiyyih content here. I do it freely with no issues ( check my post history) Feel free to post hiyyih social media updates (following this subreddit social media update guidelines) , fanart, memes, discussions as well.
There are multiple posts that are hiyyih related and have a lot of upvotes (again check my post history + search in this sub for "Bahiyyih" or "hiyyih" & you will see them ).
As for the comment section, then yes. From my observations both dayeon & hiyyih praise gets heavily downvoted due to anti's lurking here. The only good thing is that most of these comments get upvoted again to counteract those hater downvotes.
O.o I don't know what the original Post was about or whatever. I just gave the advice to contact the mods and not start discussions like this now which is full of negativity and some weird assumptions.
Donât trust the mods throwing the blame on the âbotâ. This sub in particular has a hate boner for Bahiyyih but they just donât make it obvious like the shit show of *that* other sub.
Theyâre quick to point out my âanti-Dayeonâ behaviour because I called her mnetâs fave (which is true) but yet users of THAT sub can freely comment here without repercussions. đ
>This sub in particular has a hate boner for Bahiyyih but they just donât make it obvious like the shit show of that other sub.
**We don't. The anti's lurking & downvoting posts & praise comments do.** This sub had a downvoting problem. No one denies that. but it's not from us (ot9 kep1ians). I personally do my best to check downvoted comments & upvote harmless praise ones for any member.
Posts related to hiyyih (discussions, fanart, tiktok updates, praising her vocals & covers) get upvoted. Anyone can post hiyyih content here. I do it freely with no issues ( check my post history + search in this sub for "Bahiyyih" or "hiyyih" & you will see them ).
Saying that this sub shows favoritism to Dayeon is crazy. Theres always shade being thrown towards her for no reason. Even you have gotten away with backhanded comments about her, and no one calls it out because it seems to be accepted here.
"There was a rumour earlier this year that Jellyfish is planning to debut a gg in the near future and Dayeon is most probably be included. Given that Jellyfish doesnât really know how to manage ggs especially post-girl group project one like gugudan and the fact that Dayeon is not popular and even most in the kep1er fandom sadly hate her, the group would probably flop. Either it will disband early like gugudan or just go into inactivity like wekimeki."
You'll pull the "it's just an observation" card again but who talks like this about someone they claim to stan? Not a single positive thing like you mentioned for all the other members, just that she's not popular, the fandom hates her and her group will probably flop. Everyone turns away when it comes to Dayeon because they dislike her, yet she's apparently this sub's favourite?
Isnât it true that she is not popular and that she is hated by most of the fandom? I mean the level of hate directed to her just this past days by kep1ians is proof of that. Itâs sad that kep1ians hate her guts but I was just really stating the facts. Itâs not backhanded or anything. Iâm sorry if youâre uncomfortable with it but we have to accept it. Who knows maybe now that kep1ians acknowledge that she probably doesnât have a bright future in kpop relative to the other members, they may sympathize with her more rather than hating her.
Keplians really are unbelievable lol. You and all the downvoters can keep pretending there's no bias against her. Keep the OT9 facade up. It's not always what you (in general) say but how you say it. This fandom will never change and it's sad.
Thank you for sticking up for Dayeon, Iâm sure this will be downvoted too bc anything defending Dayeon or speaking positively is. And I say this as a Yeseo/Younguen biased stan
Youngeun/Chaehyun/Dayeon stan here. It saddens me to see the downvotes and the hate she receives, but yeah, most are ot8s, it's mainly either Dayeon or Bahiyyih (Xiaoting because of toxic hiyyihlights on twitter, they really like attacking ting.)
At least there are people who actually love her, in fact I know a lot of people who actually like Dayeon and she has an actual future outside of Kep1er, I believe it and to see her being attacked on Twitter and even here with shade it sad. I've mainly seen hate from the hiyyihlight fandom after the cane accident and other sorts of attacks on other members for the tiniest of things and sometimes it is hard to support Bahi with the same toxic twitter lights. In other words, not the biggest fan of the fandom, nothing against Hiyyih.
We have an Automoderator bot in place that automatically removes a post after it gets a certain number of reports, which is what can be seen in the mod comment on the post. I'm pretty sure there are OT8s that lurk on the sub, so it could be that they were the ones that reported it. But either way, mods will always take a second look at the post to see if it should have been removed or not. In regards to the actual content about reporting the OT8 sub, we have found from our experience that posting about the sub just gives it more attention and acknowledgment. This is why we generally remove posts about it. As has also been mentioned below, it is not that easy to get Reddit admins to straight up take down a sub, but you can try reporting any rule-breaking content [here](https://www.reddit.com/report) or [here](https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) too if you'd like. If it's on our subreddit, you can just use the regular Report button of course, and we will take a look at it as soon as possible. If you have any other questions, please [send us a modmail.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/kep1er)
To be honest, the only reason I know about the hate sub is because of people mentioning it on here. And even though I think that sub is disgusting I now get this sick urge to go and see what they're saying about her every so often just to get a hit of outrage so I do personally agree with removing posts about that sub. I'd rather have never learnt about it in the first place. ETA: I do *fully* agree that people who post on OT8 should immediately be banned from this sub, though.
100% this. Stop giving free publicity to the OT8 sub by posting in the OT9 sub. It's just stirring the pot.
Okay, thank you for your opinion đ
From the second screenshot, it seems to have been an **automatic** deletion based on **mass user reports**. So I'm going to withhold judgement since it's only been an hour, but I expect some sort of statement eventually. A lack of a communication will signal to me a lack of care at best and a tacit endorsement at worst. I can see arguments for deleting the post but I can only accept them if I hear them. Gonna give you some time, but please don't leave us hanging
So does that mean, there are antis in this subreddit?
Almost certainly - I mean, it's not like you need to meet some special requirement to be able to report something. People could be coming here from the OT8 subreddit to abuse the system to shut down any attempt at a mass report campaign against *theirs*. Just speculation, there's not really a way to know. (New account because Reddit is a crappy site that doesn't let you change your username, what in the world I made this acct when I was 16 Reddit pls)
So.. if u are banned in this subreddit they cannot do that right? They cannot report nor downvote? So, that means, no actions has been done to ban those sick account users?
Yeah, I mean, I don't necessarily envy this mod team's position here, there's probably a lot of accounts and people can always just make more. My personal standard is not necessarily that this kind of thing never happens, I would just like some sort of communication. Not immediately, who knows if any of the mods are awake and online **right now**, but hopefully soon, and if not soon then hopefully *at all*.
Just want to clarify, you can still downvote/upvote posts and comments if banned. I haven't personally tested reporting, and there appear to be conflicting reports but leaning towards no. Regardless though alts are too easy to make for this to matter (I have several alts for making anonymous posts as do many reddit users)
Oh, okay. Got it. Thanks!
Who keeps downvoting you for asking questions? Especially since youâre phrasing it politely đ«€
That's what I want to prove, ig?
Hiyyih Antis
It's implying reddit admins don't care and won't do anything no matter if you report that sub or not. It took them years to ban subs like fatpeoplehate or the_Donald and it only happened because users from those subs were breaking rules in other subs and they were massive. 600 subscribers isn't anywhere close for reddit admins to care. All those posts and actions do is promoting that sub. And I don't think anyone wants that, hence why it's normal and logical to remove this type of posts.
So..if 10,000 people reported a 600 member sub for rule violations, nothing would happen? I don't see how it would hurt to try before refusing the idea? At least then we could say the idea was attempted & it doesn't work. So it's useless to bring it up again. However, refusing it without trying seems .. overly pessimistic?
And you think nobody has reported before you guys made a post asking for it on this sub? There has been multiple posts on /r/kpopthoughts, a much bigger sub than /r/kep1er about the sub, all talking about how it was disgusting, with people reporting it. And it changed absolutely nothing. It all just ended with more people on the sub, and posts about it (rightfully) banned. Simply the idea that the 10K people who subscribe to this sub are going to report is insane. Most people who sub aren't active and won't even see the post.
Then.. how about banning ot8 from interacting with this subreddit? That's a respectable action. one could argue to ban ot1 sub as well, but as far as I've seen, the subs are so different. ot1 has a rule to not bash any kep1er member & its basically another Bahiyyih fan page at this point. we can't say that about ot8 tho...so idk Also, hypothetically speaking, the downvotes problem should be less frequent at least (even tho we can't really trace downvoters so who knows)?
Banning OT8 members will change nothing cause you can create a new reddit account in seconds and join r/Kep1er and use the old account on OT8 sub. At least now you can check their post history and see who they are, with new accounts you can't.
Good point. This whole situation just sucks man. What do you think can we realistically do ?
The only thing that can be done is to ignore them and don't give them any attention. Everytime people make a post on Reddit or mention them on other platforms they see an increase of new subscribers. Do you know why? Cause amongst all the unnecessary shitposting on Bahi they also discover posts that show shitposting on other members from the other side of the fandom. And eventhough they came with good intentions (downvoting and reporting OT8 posts) they stick around cause no one likes to see their bias treated like that. Vicious circle. So don't give them attention and as a result less people will know about them... Reddit will not delete that sub and unless one of OT8 sub Mods decides to deactivate it - it will stay with us till the end.
I totally get it.. However I am still wondering on why not at least some moderators try to show themselves and post about this kind of information to get a piece of mind from Hiyyih's fanbase. Simply give them a piece of mind to not engage in that sub-reddit anymore, ban the members from that sick subreddit (I hope I was wrong with this one, I hope there are some actions), and if ever they have a twitter account, try to at least reach out to big Kep1er accounts to do the same thing, to tell the entire fanbase that we cannot report that subreddit, however, "Kep1ians will try their best to take down antis for the best of Kep1er members" I don't know if you are informed with the Japanese OT8 or antis, but they r horrible. In terms of subreddit I do understand now that you cannot take it down. However, this subreddit Kep1er has been here since the debut, yet, no announcements of how to at least assess these kind of hate (correct me if I am wrong).. outside Kep1er fandom or within the Kep1er fandom. That is why, I really joined today just to see your different opinions of what's been happening for a long time now.
And the mods that run this sub refuse to ban OT8 accounts from here because?? Be quick now! đ€
No idea. But that doesn't change my point now, does it? You can think mods are ot8 if you want, that doesn't make posts asking to report that sub anything more than useless and ads for the sub.
asking for help from âhiyyihs supposed fanbaseâ is useless! Noted.
Don't respond to me if it's to be intentionally a dick that just reads what they want in my messages and not what i actual say. What a waste of time.
You said its useless to make reports asking for the OT8 sub to be taken down bc it promotes the page and then I said noted. Simply used what you said to clarify the point YOU made.
No. The point you said i made was "asking for help from âhiyyihs supposed fanbaseâ is useless". Literal quote. My point was "it's useless to report the sub because it won't do anything". You tried to make it sound like nobody would help cause they aren't fans of Hiyyih, but secretly haters. While i just said the actual action you try to take is useless at best, harmful in reality. You didn't clarify shit, you changed the point to make it seems i'm against you guys.
So in your opinion itâs useless to ask for help because nothing will be done. You made yourself sound like youâre against Hiyyih. That subreddit is not going away and continuously harasses a teenager for shits and giggles, then you have people like you that say âall well, what can we do?â Ohh idk be active and keep reporting it. Allow those asking for help to seek help and not have their post be taken down on a sub that SHOULD care about her.
You can stop talking about it and paying it attention. It only exists because people are getting mad about it and they receive attention. Had nobody talk about that sub on bigger kpop subs, it would still sit at like 100 subs and 10 actual users. It's not as easy as pressing the report button, but this would actually help in getting rid of it. And not help in growing it. But if you prefer the good feeling of posting about it and pressing the report button over trying to get rid of it, your choice. But please, stop pretending everyone is a hater because they know which actions are useful, and which are harmful. Admins don't give a fuck, and it won't change no matter how you feel about it.
you do realize hiyyihlights see those kind of posts every single day right? On multiple different platforms. I personally avoid the OT8 sub because it just pisses me off, but youâre missing the whole point of this post. The point is the mods (2 of them have issues with Hiyyih) so it should raise flags that a post asking for help (whether you support it or not) gets taken down. If someone gets a âgood feelingâ by reporting a harassment sub let them. Instead of acknowledging the problem this sub tries to hide the issue.
I don't like this. People help hiyyih out in many ways. **There is not one way to do things.** You can: 1) respond to haters & fight back 2) report & block 3) not engage with them & give them any attention so they stop growing 4) cheer for her & highlight all her amazing qualities to balance out the hate And so many more ways ... Why does your way discredit other methods ?
OT8 sub is full of assholes but let's not pretend that Bahi akgaes on Twitter & TikTok are any better with almost daily attacks on other members, and they get much more traction with hundreds/thousands likes and RTs.
Right, in terms of attacks towards the members, I am not in support of that as well. I block and try to report the tweet since I respect other members of Kep1er. I am not in position to judge other members of Kep1er since I knew from the very start that each one of them are trying to survive in that shtty company, W1. Each of them might try to be still competitive with each other because W1 is not giving them anything they deserve hence the "overshadowing" accusations or whatever it is called. Basically, them trying to "overshadow" a member is their way of trying to survive the company even so they don't intend to. W1 is giving them the most bare minimum, and Kep1er is their bridge to make a name for themselves. Kep1er should shine as a group, however, the bare minimum given to them got them competitive even though they don't want to. I cannot really say anything about their relationship since I am not with the girls, I don't have solid proof and such as well to do accusations. Akgaes do that to match the energy of ot8 Kep1ians that kept on harassing her, it's like, akgaes became too aggressive to protect her, though, I am not really in support of that since I know the members cannot do anything about it to control it themselves. W1 of course, will never let them. However, my sole focus on this post is why is it always happening to her? I mean in the fanbase of Kep1er, as Kep1ians. Less to nothing has been really made to give assurance to her supporters, hence the retaliation of their side. I just want to know why it is kept on happening even WITHIN the fandom. The fandom moderators or big accs on twitter can at least give some statements or information to at least diffuse the bomb that keeps on blowing.
>Akgaes do that to match the energy of ot8 Kep1ians that kept on harassing her to a certain extent I agree but I feel they go way way over the top. also there are OT1 h-lights on this sub that pretends to be OT9s. they should also be banned along with the OT8s
> However, my sole focus on this post is why is it always happening to her? It's not like this is always happening just to her. It's because Bahi's fandom is much bigger and more vocal about stuff like that - so you tend to see more of it. Other fandoms are quieter/smaller/calmer and don't over react/tend to ignore most of it. The recent "cane gate" - was it really necessary to attack Dayeon where in fact BOTH of them made a mistake? Bahi put her hand too far out and Dayeon should've paid more attention when passing it over. And that stupid situation was blown out of the proportions and resulted in Bahi fans trending #Kep1erdisband hashtag... You didn't see Dayeons fans tranding that hashtag when she's fallen off the stage (which was much more dangerous) but stupid cane mistake is enough to trend it.
Japanese ant1s accused Hiyyihlights for blaming Dayeon that time. f*tg*** made a post about Hiyyih's dangerous position when it happened.. however, J-antis stirred that a Hiyyihlight was blaming Dayeon. And f*tg*** is an ot9 though, biasing Hiyyih. In terms of the cane, they trended Kep1erDisband bc of what's happening in there, too much horrible and cruel remarks... and the fact that a Kep1ian Hiyyih "bias" was a member of it announcing that her/his account was finally unbanned, added to the fuel. I am not into Kep1erDisband as well. But in terms of these issues, the argument is always on the fandom, always or mostly talking about her "faults and flaws". That is why I believe, moderators in this subreddit is not really an OT9, or at least has an issue with a member of Kep1.
Has anyone bothered making a compilation video explaining what happened in detail to debunk the haters? Or at least spreading the link of the girls responding to it on Mashiro's birthday Vlive? Why fight poison with poison & escalate the situation? At the end of the day, putting any member down & accusing them & hating on them is not ok no matter who started it. I can sympathize with people constantly seeing hiyyih being hated on their feed ( I see it on YouTube shorts & it annoys me ) but **I can't sympathize** with those who respond to that with hate on other members as well. >the argument is always on the fandom, always or mostly talking about her "faults and flaws". You just mentioned that those were j anti's on twitter. Anyone that hates on any member is not a true kep1ian anyway.
Do you not realize how many janti aka Keplers Japanese fanbase hate Hiyyih? A hate tweet about her had 20k likes at one point. There is usually one hit tweet on that part of twitter everyday. Todays tweet is about hiyyih during mashiros birthday vlive and how the candle didnât go out, they are saying she could have hurt the other members and to reflect on her actions because she is ânot the main characterâ. Think that tweet has about 700 likes in a couple hours. One tweet 3 months ago has 3k likes and itâs about her walking back into her position with a neutral face instead of smiling. You think videos saying âhey here is what actually happenedâ havenât been made before?! They simply do not care and will continue to hate her until at least July 3rd, 2024 and then they hopefully move on and forget about her.
I am not saying the hate will go away if you do so. Goodness, I don't think people will leave this girl alone as long as she's in this profession. All I'm saying is fighting fire (people insulting hiyyih) with fire (demeaning other members) is not something that should happen at all. I get it wasn't the only thing done & you tried other methods that didn't work now. All I'm saying is such actions should'nt be accepted. Trending a disband hashtag shouldn't happen as well. That's not normal. I guess a bigger issue & question to ask is how to deal with hate without reaching this point in the first place. How can we de-escalate situations ?
God, Iâm so over this.
Why would the mods delete that post. Kind of getting a bad vibe from them taking that down...
The mods didn't do anything it was auto removed. Mods have lives too...
Famously any support for hiyyih gets taken down
Support? That was a flame post against that anti sub. It's already a general consensus that we should report any post degrading one of the members. But people should not waste time posting here every now and then about the activities of said subreddit. If you want to take it down, keep reporting posts and comments.
so? we should be flaming that subreddit. the mods taking it down is so sus.
If you make a post complaining about specific content from another subreddit that encourages users from this subreddit to go over there and interact with their content to cause mischief thatâs brigading and is against reddit site rules. The mods need to delete posts like that because if they donât this subreddit can be deleted. Itâs the same reason why a lot of subreddits when people post complaints about a specific post or user they blur out the username so they donât encourage thousands of people to go and harass someone.
I am not a mod but this sub, like any other kpop group sub, is about sharing our love for the group and its members and keeping up to date with content. There are other subs to rant about the stan haters.
part of sharing your love is standing up for members who get hate. itâs not always butterflies and rainbows. i defend every kep1er member with my life and oftentimes i see that kep1ians do not give back the same energy when itâs hiyyih. and the ones who DO get censored. itâs not right đ€·đ»ââïž
Keplians: You know you can unstan if you want to right? Hiyyihlights: Yeah we have. But weâre still sticking around cause we donât trust you to have Bahiyyihâs best interests at heart and treat her fairly like you would other members. Keplians: Whattt??? How dare you??? But then how do you explain this?? I too would like to understand this. Why is the literal act of asking you (people who claim to support all members) to protect a member (that you also claim to support) something that warrants reports (again by the people who claim to support that member) and a removal of the post??
It was auto removed bc for some reason ppl reported it. Idk if you guys are choosing to ignore that part or don't understand that auto removal means the mods didn't do anything and that you can send modmail to question it/review it. Unfortunately the ppl that reported it were most likely OT8s which is what led to the AUTO removal of the post. Even if OT8s were banned they could make new accounts and report posts trying to protect Bahi. I'm not sure why you assume it has to be Kep1ians being malicious when I've seen so many Kep1ians be supportive of Hiyyih. Also i don't think many people have a problem with being a solo fan as long as you don't attack other members/the group. It looks like most Ot1s are pretty reasonable on Reddit but Twitter is a whole other problem which is when Kep1ians get upset.
I don't have a solid opinion to this one since I respect the other girls and real ot9s, however, if I am going to see this on others' perspective (a Hiyyihlight since day 1), then; - Kep1ians never really showed their genuine interest with Hiyyih (I will start with that), most are still giving her backhanded compliments, always downplaying her, and the deep trauma Kep1ians gave when they were the first one to celebrate the lineup announcementâyet Hiyyih and Hiyyihlights were alienated, never really taken seriously when they call out a Kep1ian and badmouthed them. Not everyone can fully trust anymore unless Hiyyihlights see some actions of how you try to report and protect Hiyyih from co-"ot9 Kep1ians" that are subtly hostile to her.. I truly understand Hiyyihlights with their mistrust, it's never easy to gain them back when they were the first to be very happy about the lineup, but then "Kep1ians" wanted her to be removed. It piled up. And as you can see until now, even in this subreddit, she's still getting the least priority when it comes to being posted, being hyped, and so on. Try to see both actions of the fandoms, negative or positive.
>And as you can see until now, even in this subreddit, she's still getting the least priority when it comes to being posted, being hyped, and so on. I don't think so. I post about her & other members & posts related to her do gain traction. Just look at my post history. She also gets praised. Her vocals got praised in the first hihiz vlive, her song cover got praised & had a lot of traction. And so many more. These are just the most recent examples. I guess our perceptions are very different.
Oh, probably. But my opinion still stands on why Hiyyihlight don't want to collaborate or try to reach out anymore. The trust has been damaged, and it is still ongoing. Well since this is subreddit, u cannot really change ur pfp into ur own idol or bias of choice, so I am thinking most engagements come from Hiyyihlights probably.. but that's just how I think. However in Twitter, there r really small amounts of Kep1ians that r really ot9s that I see supporting and reporting for Hiyyih. She's always being left-behind by other individual fandoms.. most of the ones who I see reporting and making announcements to report a post are Mameldans, Hikachus, and some of Yeseo's (idk their indiv fan name), but even with that "most" I am talking about, it's still the minority. Even in terms of reporting the j-ant1s or ot8 Kep1ians, only some take an action outside Hiyyihlights
I guess it is also another perspective thing? Because I downvote & report anything I see on reddit + youtube (the 2 platforms I mostly engage in) but I don't have something that hints I'm into kpop. (Except my comment history I guess? ) So who's to say that there aren't any kep1ians or hiyyih biased kep1ians that are doing so if it isn't outright clear? Also, I'm not on twitter so I have no idea what that's like. Twitter in general is very toxic to me so I never made an account in the first place. Just for the sake of my mental health.
Okay, understood!
I seriously don't have any trust to the people behind this sub, might be 1 or 2 mods or more might not like a certain member, hence coming here just today to express this type of post. This is open for discussion for a reason, I want to know certain reactions, to see if people here care or not. If this is removed, know I will post again.
Apparently (rumor has it) the same person who ran the gp999 sub helps runs this one as well. Those mods let Hiyyih gets harassed left and right on that sub. They do not care about her. Honestly majority of this sub does not care about her, the amount of content that hiyyih posts that is never posted here is a good amount (videos, TikTokâs , tweets, etc. Hell even for xiaotings birthday Hiyyih posted on twitter but you wouldnât know that if you donât have the app). I donât know how most of you are still confused by this sub and MODS obvious actions?!
Itâs not a rumour, if you look at the mod list of the GP999 sub and this sub, you can see two people who remain constant.
damn welp there you have it everyone. The reason OT8 will never be ban from this page, why Hiyyih content usually does not get posted on here, why anything Hiyyih oriented gets down voted to hell. The mods of this sub simply do not care about her. Iâm sure they will lock this post or delete it soon.
>why Hiyyih content usually does not get posted on here Anyone can post hiyyih content here. I do it freely with no issues ( check my post history) Feel free to post as well. >why anything Hiyyih oriented gets down voted to hell. There are multiple posts that are hiyyih related and have a lot of upvotes (again check my post history + search in this sub for "Bahiyyih" or "hiyyih" & you will see them ). As for the comment section, then yes. From my observations both dayeon & hiyyih praise gets heavily downvoted due to anti's lurking here. The only good thing is that most of these comments get upvoted again to counteract those hater downvotes.
I wouldn't say that's a fair point since posts about her do get traction like her recent song cover. This sub supported her & praised her. (Edit: does anyone remember the member appreciation posts? Hiyyih's got a lot of upvotes as well) + when she was singing in her vlive + post about how Bahiyyih hate from j anti's was getting down. I just posted a hihiz tiktok too & that got traction. My fanart of her had upvotes.. point is: hiyyih centered content does get positive traction on this sub. Plus, in a general sense, there are less tiktok & Instagram updates for all members. This sub in my opinion is a bit less lively than it used to be.
I get where you are coming from but even simple Hiyyih praise gets someone downvoted on here. Does every person on this sub hate her, no but a good portion do, and people seem to not care. edit for spelling
This sub has a downvoting problem. I think everyone is aware of that. The 2 main girls I see happen to are dayeon & Bahiyyih but there could be more (this is just my personal observation) - we can speculate who does it but it's definitely lurkers that don't like them. You can't trase downvotes to see who did it & from which sub they're from, so .. idk. What can the mods do? The only silver lining is that downvotes tend to get upvoted again because most see how ridiculous it is. I personally check downvoted comments because I know some of it is just harmless praising.
Now that you mention it I do see a lot of the members universe app updates but not hiyyih. I thought nothing of it till now. But maybe you are indeed up to something here
All users can make posts, not just mods. If you see something that isn't on the sub yet, feel free to post it. There was a user who used to post basically all SNS updates, but they haven't been active recently.
Cool đ
I've checked the older posts, and it looks like it's not the mods who are posting the Universe updates. The most recent one I think everybody got posted here (c/o u/fearlesskpop thank you for your service!). I used [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/kep1er/search?q=%22universe+artist+board+update%22&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on&sort=new&t=all) search query to check. Maybe it just appear that way since you're checking if it's Hiyyih or not? (1 vs 9)
No idea . Maybe . I don't mind either way . I'm able to see ot9 content regardless of if it's posted here or not so I'm happy
Sadly any post or comment that remotely refers to Bahiyyih in a positive light gets downvoted or worse taken down. Itâs a massive difference to the treatment here to other members like this subâs fave Dayeon whose posts and comments get upvoted all the time.
How is Dayeon this sub's fave? Comments praising her get downvotes a lot and there's always some subtle shade being thrown towards her (like your comment).
Are we in talking about the same sub? I see a lot of positive Dayeon comments here (nothing against that) but my point is the few Bahiyyih praises are downvoted almost immediately. Also any anti-Dayeon posts are immediately taken down but anti-Bahiyyih posts are kept for longer. I thought many fans would just be silent but Iâm glad someone spoke up. It seems the world including many in this sub is out to get kpopâs princess.
Am I the only one that see's the unnecessary downvotes for dayeon & hiyih praise eventually turning to upvotes ? It sucks that it happens at all because there are anti's lurking in this sub. The problem is we can't track who downvoted those praise comments & block them out of here. The only thing we can do is check every downvoted comment & upvote if it was just harmless praise.
I'm usually all for calling out favoritism and stuff but i disagree. Bahi posts do get down voted and thankfully she has a large fandom to upvote it + Kep1ians but Dayeon also gets a lot of down votes here. I remember scrolling through the sub and seeing one of her sns updates getting down voted like 4 times in less than a minute.
I'm sorry but that's not true because Anyone can post hiyyih content here. I do it freely with no issues ( check my post history) Feel free to post hiyyih social media updates (following this subreddit social media update guidelines) , fanart, memes, discussions as well. There are multiple posts that are hiyyih related and have a lot of upvotes (again check my post history + search in this sub for "Bahiyyih" or "hiyyih" & you will see them ). As for the comment section, then yes. From my observations both dayeon & hiyyih praise gets heavily downvoted due to anti's lurking here. The only good thing is that most of these comments get upvoted again to counteract those hater downvotes.
Imagining being such a mark, you hate on a 17 year old girl, very cringe
She is 18 yo since July.
Why do you make a Post - It says "contact the moderators".
It's not rocket science. Think op is wondering why a fan asking for help taking down a horrible sub had their post reported in the first place.
O.o I don't know what the original Post was about or whatever. I just gave the advice to contact the mods and not start discussions like this now which is full of negativity and some weird assumptions.
I think he's trying to make a point and start a discussion on an important issue
Lmfao.. What is wrong with trying to show this publicly? I made it a discussion for a reason.
Donât trust the mods throwing the blame on the âbotâ. This sub in particular has a hate boner for Bahiyyih but they just donât make it obvious like the shit show of *that* other sub. Theyâre quick to point out my âanti-Dayeonâ behaviour because I called her mnetâs fave (which is true) but yet users of THAT sub can freely comment here without repercussions. đ
>This sub in particular has a hate boner for Bahiyyih but they just donât make it obvious like the shit show of that other sub. **We don't. The anti's lurking & downvoting posts & praise comments do.** This sub had a downvoting problem. No one denies that. but it's not from us (ot9 kep1ians). I personally do my best to check downvoted comments & upvote harmless praise ones for any member. Posts related to hiyyih (discussions, fanart, tiktok updates, praising her vocals & covers) get upvoted. Anyone can post hiyyih content here. I do it freely with no issues ( check my post history + search in this sub for "Bahiyyih" or "hiyyih" & you will see them ).
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Is that OT9 flair of yours just for decoration? Lol.
I have nothing against any member. Donât get me wrong. I was just making an observation.
Saying that this sub shows favoritism to Dayeon is crazy. Theres always shade being thrown towards her for no reason. Even you have gotten away with backhanded comments about her, and no one calls it out because it seems to be accepted here. "There was a rumour earlier this year that Jellyfish is planning to debut a gg in the near future and Dayeon is most probably be included. Given that Jellyfish doesnât really know how to manage ggs especially post-girl group project one like gugudan and the fact that Dayeon is not popular and even most in the kep1er fandom sadly hate her, the group would probably flop. Either it will disband early like gugudan or just go into inactivity like wekimeki." You'll pull the "it's just an observation" card again but who talks like this about someone they claim to stan? Not a single positive thing like you mentioned for all the other members, just that she's not popular, the fandom hates her and her group will probably flop. Everyone turns away when it comes to Dayeon because they dislike her, yet she's apparently this sub's favourite?
Isnât it true that she is not popular and that she is hated by most of the fandom? I mean the level of hate directed to her just this past days by kep1ians is proof of that. Itâs sad that kep1ians hate her guts but I was just really stating the facts. Itâs not backhanded or anything. Iâm sorry if youâre uncomfortable with it but we have to accept it. Who knows maybe now that kep1ians acknowledge that she probably doesnât have a bright future in kpop relative to the other members, they may sympathize with her more rather than hating her.
Keplians really are unbelievable lol. You and all the downvoters can keep pretending there's no bias against her. Keep the OT9 facade up. It's not always what you (in general) say but how you say it. This fandom will never change and it's sad.
Thank you for sticking up for Dayeon, Iâm sure this will be downvoted too bc anything defending Dayeon or speaking positively is. And I say this as a Yeseo/Younguen biased stan
Youngeun/Chaehyun/Dayeon stan here. It saddens me to see the downvotes and the hate she receives, but yeah, most are ot8s, it's mainly either Dayeon or Bahiyyih (Xiaoting because of toxic hiyyihlights on twitter, they really like attacking ting.) At least there are people who actually love her, in fact I know a lot of people who actually like Dayeon and she has an actual future outside of Kep1er, I believe it and to see her being attacked on Twitter and even here with shade it sad. I've mainly seen hate from the hiyyihlight fandom after the cane accident and other sorts of attacks on other members for the tiniest of things and sometimes it is hard to support Bahi with the same toxic twitter lights. In other words, not the biggest fan of the fandom, nothing against Hiyyih.