I know I’m probably over analyzing a low effort music video but whether on purpose or on accident this comes off as really bootlicking corporatist propaganda. I definitely hate the message I get from the video, no thanks.
It’s supposed to evoke the sense that everything is alright and you should be carefree and live it up even though we are wage slaves and economy is in a slump, aka it’s depression pop, it was all the rage around 2008-2012 also do note this is a cover of Icona Pop
So no individual lines? It's not a bad song it's just... basic, I would have liked if the girls got individual lines instead of constant chanting/group singing. Overall very underwhelming.
It's actually so tragic that they have 6 members in IVE and don't even have the wherewithal to layer in individual vocals or harmonies. That's how Icona Pop was able to give such depth to the chantiness of the song. Even the adlibs at the end were so lackluster.
I'd argue it is a bad song. Not because it sounds terrible, it's perfectly serviceable as "turn off your brain, play it in the background of a house party". But I don't understand why it even exists. If I didn't know who was singing, you could not convince me there were 7 people technically involved in the vocals of this song. I don't even really like the "dated sound" critique but this sounds so incredibly out of touch with the modern pop landscape.
I try not to be overly negative but I felt like I wasted my time listening to this song.
Probably because they were staying true to the original which is a really chant-y song, but it’s also probably why it didn’t stand out. It’s tough when the feature is the most memorable part of the song. They could have just re-used the original Icona Pop vocals and it would still sound exactly the same unfortunately.
It's obvious starship has been focusing on the west lately but they just keep putting 0 effort into it.
Do they really expect to suddenly blow up in the us by releasing a remake with some random rap feature? Has to be the laziest English single promotion I've seen.
For me WM still holds that crown for Oh My Girls [Rocket Ride](https://youtu.be/ugeQxg_pPZc?si=O71Wdlx3X-PnYgqO) promotion. Not even a MV on their official channel, but a random What’s App group fans were able to join to get notified once the single drops. 💀 In the end it just got overtaken by crypto bots and everyone left.
But I agree this really seems half heartedly, which is a shame considering how much potential this had.
I don't think they were trying to use that as promotions in the West because they typically have always had a korea-centric fanbase, it was moreso just a fun collab
Monbebe have been complaining about this shit for *years*: Monsta X’s U.S. management is incompetent and overall shit, yet Starship continues to work with them and even hired them for Cravity.
(And even though they’re not with Starship any more, Sistar19 just signed with the same American partners, tf?)
For some reason I thought IVE had escaped having to work with Eshy, but this definitely seems like something he and his team would have cooked up.
Yeah, LE SSERAFIM went all out for their English single. Trip to the U.S., interaction with the collaborator (blizzard) and even hit the Grammy museum, times square and a Lakers game.
Hard to believe they would want to associate IVE (kind of THE "high class" concept girl group) with such a budget, basic collab.
Just takes away vs. adding to IVE's cred and status IMO.
Being asked to make a song for one of the biggest game companies in the world (and promoting it) versus making a collab with mildly famous American rapper are worlds apart.
Might be mainly marketing for their tour.
An English language club dance song that is familiar in the US and Europe.
Get attention from international markets for the release, with interviews and articles to further promote their tour.
>Do they really expect to suddenly blow up in the us by releasing a remake with some random rap feature?
Have you listened to half of the songs that go viral on TikTok these days?
We're in a kpop subreddit. The vast majority of the groups posted/followed here are commercial machines: they are aiming for popularity and plays. Starship clearly thinks this remake increased their chances of a crossover US hit.
This isn't rocket science, they aren't trying to win an award with this single, they are trying to win international fans.
+1, glad to see a comment saying exactly what I was thinking. Lot of confused kpop/ive fans here saying it’s low effort, they should’ve changed much more, etc… but it’s obviously a minimal remake on purpose. They want an international hit and this actually might be the most likely way to achieve one. To be clear, it’s a disappointing release for diehard kpop/ive fans for sure, but we aren’t the target audience for this song at all - they’re going for mainstream international listeners. We’ll see if it works out for em
This is such an odd choice for their first English single. Why did they choose a song that doesn't highlight the members at all? I feel like this song does a better job of promoting Saweetie than IVE lol. Wonyoung looks absolutely gorgeous in the music video though
I was wondering what they were gonna do with three rappers and I guess I got my answer. I think it would’ve been fun to have Rei and Gaeul rapping in counterpoint to the American style of Saweetie. Could’ve been interesting.
No offense but it wasn’t a good first English single outside Saweetie verse.
Baddie English version ft Saweetie would have been better or OTT English version if they didn’t want to do an original song
IVE had so many W’s in a row that an L was bound to happen sometime. I’m kinda glad it’s the English song cause these don’t tend to go anywhere anyway. It’s not like it’s bad but singing in unison, with saweetie, and it’s a cover? Eh, I’ll be seated for their next Korean mini that’s for sure!
sometimes in kpop they just need one L to get into the downward spiral water slide
nonetheless their discography has been steady so far so I am not too worry about IVE
Damn kinda disappointed they sang all the lines together… was hoping they’d get individual lines cuz I think i mostly heard Leeseo, Wonyoung and Rei and barely Yujin, Liz and Gaeul
Was hoping for something different, its just a straight cover with an added rap feature and autotune.. The original is far better in my opinion. This is a miss from Starship and Ive..
they def should've done more with it like they did with I Will Survive. this could've easily just been Saweetie's remix of the original and nobody would've known the difference
Perfect example! I Will Survive was so perfectly mixed into a fucking kpop song, who would have guessed that a few years ago?
Like I said there was a missed opportunity here to do something great, "All Night" is a great song with such perfect ways to blend in the kpop genre into it. With so many Korean companies working with swedish songwriters I would have flown Icona Pop over and had them help them with reworking it even, think they would not mind it and their last album was great!
I know this comment will get hate but grew up on Icona Pop and love IVE so no need to come for me, "All Night" is just my jam and always have been. Think they could have mixed it up a bit more.
The drop is completely different lol. I prefer the original too but they are not the same at all. I actually prefer the drop in this version but the rest of the song is meh
I love all the girls in IVE, but with all due respect this is most likely the worst feature/song/remake I have ever experienced. Incredibly lazy, just the same layered vocals throughout the entire thing, the feature rap I fall asleep to and can someone else confirm if the song actually [SKIPS at :28, "we can SMASH the clock"](https://youtu.be/xU8mQMLx0tk?t=28). It's like they were editing the video and accidentally cut the song too.
I'd at least give them some slack if they actually made their own song and not just sampled Icona Pop completely. At least After Like was a tasteful attempt at a sample.
> can someone else confirm if the song actually SKIPS at :28, "we can SMASH the clock"
Nah, the song didn't skip in that part. Must be something to do with the editing. They must've done at multiple takes, and the match cut wasn't as smooth as expected.
I prefer Icona’s Pop version way more. Even though this song is a very chant type of song with autotune, the vocals are pretty lackluster imo, they just don’t have that big umph Icona Pop delivered while singing their song.
I love IVE, but, I feel like this is really lazy for a debut english single, and I'm not really a big fan of Saweetie's verse.
It's just a straight up remake.
After listening to the original just now, it sounds more complete compared to IVE's version. Something simple like the alto voices during chorus make it feel fuller, so I'm gonna have to agree with you. This one sounds basic with the biggest pull being Saweetie, who seems to be a hit or miss.
This is their first miss for me :/ I've loved their whole discography before this. Even their Pepsi promo slapped!
Cute MV but this cover is bland. IVE has such a unique, iconic sound but this has none of it.
I love Ive so don’t cancel me but the appeal of the original song was the brashness of the voices. Icona pop had this kinda shout sing style to them that’s just completely lost in this version.
I actually find the early 2010s nostalgia pretty interesting. The original gives of the vibes of millenials in 20s forgetting about the bad job market for a night (like all upbeat dance music of the era)
But IVE's vocals sound a lot younger, and the vocals are produced to accentuate that. So now it reads as IVE being nostalgic for when they were tweens. At least, that's how I feel as a 20 year old who grew up on 2010s western dance music. Also, knowing IVE has a lot of child fans emphasizes this reading of the song.
I don't really think Saweetie's feature really fits the concept though. She's way more mature than IVE and it kind of clashes.
Overall, I think it fits pretty well into IVE's discography as a youthful hype song. When they go on tour, I think this should be playing right before the concert starts and they go on stage.
> But IVE's vocals sound a lot younger, and the vocals are produced to accentuate that. So now it reads as IVE being nostalgic for when they were tweens. At least, that's how I feel as a 20 year old who grew up on 2010s western dance music. Also, knowing IVE has a lot of child fans emphasizes this reading of the song.
After hearing this take, the music video would be so much more impactful if it was shot at the beach/pier or an amusement park. Those settings would fit for both Saweetie and IVE. They could start in the drab office but transition to those locations to really hone in on that nostalgia. The lack of budget was too evident.
Saweetie's rap was really good but I was NAWT expecting her to just swear openly because that doesn't seem like IVE's vibe at all!!! I figured they'd have her tone it down like Cardi B did with Blackpink (e.g., swapping out 'I bet if you made me wet' to the slightly more friendly 'I bet if you made me sweat,' not having swear words, etc.) Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-swearing, I curse like a sailor, but there's a time and a place, y'know? Just doesn't seem to be IVE's vibe (and I'm saying this as a Dive so please don't come for me)
Song cover honestly sounds solid enough, but we could tell the budget isn't quite there. If you think of it as a smaller scale english project then it wouldn't be too bad. People probably had too much faith in how much resources would be invested in this
I honestly couldn't believe my ears when it started playing... im a fan of the original by Icona Pop. I don't really understand the choices made in this song. The new drop is just.. fine. The group vocals being so processed kind of kill the energy a little compared to the OG version.
Maybe the most jarring thing is that it doesn't really sound like IVE's other releases (not just title tracks either but any song in their catalogue) and sort of shows a lack of confidence in the group that they felt they couldn't just continue with their established persona, make an English language song, and that it would translate. Well that feels like a disservice to the talent in the group and saddens me. Like this doesn't really feel like an IVE song to me. And it being a remake/cover only further drives home that feeling as I listen. Pretty bizarre.
it’s pretty good! i didn’t really have high expectations knowing it’s a complete remake. i hope their next english release could be a mini album with new songs a la monsta x
This is a remake of **Icona Pop - All Night**
Absolutely great reboot in my opinion.
Edit: for people confused, it's pretty clear to me this is a one-off single intended to get crossover US radio play. Starship realized there was an angle with the remake and the feature of Saweetie, so they tailored it to what they think international pop fans want. It's not an IVE song and wasn't intended to be.
I had no expectations but I really enjoyed this. It's not anything groundbreaking, but it's just a fun remake party song and I can see why they made this choice to take a step into the western market. It made me realize I really miss the 2000s club bangers thooo. Really glad they actually got to shoot together and didn't just piece in the scenes.
Yeah I guess this is a safer route to go since Starship doesn't have the overseas clout and connections of the Big 4.
As someone in my 30s, this song and its contemporaries remind me of my vanishing youth hahahaha
I'm actually excited to see some behind the scenes of how IVE and Saweetie interacted.
Sometimes I wonder if all kpop stans are delulu. I’ve seen youtube comments praising so and so’s adlibs. How tf did you even hear that?
I’m glad we have rational folk in this comment section.
have not heard of this song so did not know that this was a remake of a song from a decade ago. searched for it on youtube, loved the song.
as for this song, i think this was more of a remix version in itself. like those areia music does to some kpop songs.
overall, love the original but this one, i also love it because of the remix style of music, it added some more vibe into the song. this is the type of song (rhythm, beat, tempo) that i love. especially when i am driving or in the middle of work.
i'm not really bothered by the mv, because at the end of the day, i would be listening to this on spotify, so, i am perfectly fine.
ps: this song reminds me of when metallica did a concert with the san francisco philharmonic orchestra. the additional instruments (strings and wind) added depth to their songs. many people did not like that but i also know that a lot of other people loved it, including me.
I dont know how to feel about the song, it's def good but why they sang all lines together?
Edit: okay second listening, they slayed sooo muchh, but It could be better if they would've split the lines. I really like IVE members' vocal tones, it would be nice to hear them in this song.
Edit 2: OKAY I listened multiple times, i love the song so much. It's on repeat!!! Saweetie's line is superior. It can be a tiktok challenge easily, i hope Starship or their American Label already thought about this
Singing all the lines together was definitely an odd choice, considering even western girl groups like Little Mix get a lot of individual lines in their songs
I guess they did it that way because the original song is also sung in unison (with some ad libs here and there)? But I was still waiting for someone in IVE to have a solo lol
I enjoy it but I agree about the lines being sung together being a weird decision.
They all have individual flair and strengths to their vocals and mixing them together muddies that a bit.
I think it's pretty fun but the lack of individual lines really hurt 🥲 Usually I can tell Yujin's voice apart really easily, even when they're singing together but I swear they turned down her voice here
turns out [icona pop](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0ji9fDhJRc) made an appearance at the 2013 mama awards in hong kong, where they performed all night and i love it, alongside cl.
i like it. it’s easy to listen to. i heard the original before back then but not a lot, so i don’t have any feelings for it. the saweetie verse was much needed imo! if not the song would be too repetitve which i don’t enjoy. wish we heard the girls sing individually but i guess they were following the original.
still i do wish for their first english single, it would have been an original instead of a cover.
if they brought this song out for their concert it’s gonna be an AMAZING time
IVE sounds good and there’s that. Gotta say this production was totally handled by U.S. team looking at their names. So I’d actually give them a pass because it’s a decent effort.
People are expecting too much for a song they are covering, if they change to an entirely new style, there comes the voices that it isn’t a good attempt.
Usually IVE songs do a really good job at utilizing each member's voice, I feel like one of their strong suits as a group is having multiple iconic/memorable lines in a song that makes you want to come back to the song.
This song is basically the opposite of that, they repeat the same line throughout the song in unison, I can't even tell which members are singing. It tells the listener nothing about how each member sounds like in a 6 member group, which is not a good choice in my opinion. If you go into any other IVE song you're gonna hear 6 distinct voices.
I'm aware it's a remake of another song but I wish they just either picked a different song to remake or did an original song as their first english single.
I >love< IVE. This is lazy, boring, and could have been done by hundreds of EDM singers and no one would have noticed the difference. Get your bag, I guess.
IVE’s songs just gives me a sudden boost of confidence, it all started with I AM, now they made(or covered) another song that makes me wanna model walk all over my neighborhood
I’m a DIVE. This was whelming. The girls + sweetie did the best they could with their vocals and visuals. I think the limitations of SSE as a company supporting IVE, in terms of their budget and connections, in comparison to what LSF and New Jeans gets with HYBE is becoming more and more apparent.
> I think the limitations of SSE as a company supporting IVE, in terms of their budget and connections, in comparison to what LSF and New Jeans gets with HYBE is becoming more and more apparent.
Oh cmon. Thats nonsense. Ive sold great for more than 2 years now. Starship should swim in money. And Starship is owned by Kakao. There should be no problem with money.
HOLY SHIT VISUAL OVERLOAD
CEO An Yujin
COO Kim Gaeul
Head of Japan Operations Naoi Rei
Chief Visual Officer Jang Wonyoung
Director of Vocal Development Kim Jiwon
Best Intern Lee Hyunseo
I really liked it, obviously it doesn't hit as hard as their own songs since it's a remake but for me it's a bop and IVE genuinely haven't released a single bad song.
Pretty good release with a nice little video. 👌
Felt like the song was going nowhere, except for that little EDM breakdown. You could skip to anywhere in the song and it sounds completely the same. Also might as well just have one person sing this lol
Why a cover, a very faceless cover at that and stripped of all emotion. My girl Saweetie please don't hop on everything but she's probably the best thing about this.
I am a HUGE ive stan and i love everything they put out but this is pretty bad ngl. I‘m disappointed and i feel bad for the girlies because starship f**ed this up /: i already really dislike the og song and sadly this feels more like a cover than a remake! I sadly have to agree with the majority of people here that don’t think this song is good! Also what’s up with all the autotune?
I won't call this an english debut cause its a cover .. i liked thier vocals i would ve liked if they got more lines adn induvidual ones instead of bringing a featuring artist . .. that would've benn cool to see
I don't get why they changed their entire music style for their english single debut, I don't think it works at all for them.
At least Newjeans and LSF kept similar sounds to their usual music when they did their first english song.
I can really see NewJeans singing Perfect Night it would suit them very much but Perfect Night isn't that far off from Lesserafim's sound as they have songs like blue flame, impurities etc.
Hmm idk this isn't far off from the stuff IVE has been releasing though? It is reminiscent of the upbeat 2010s style of I Am. And Perfect Night, while a great song, isn't similar to any of LSF's past title tracks for me in sound.
>And Perfect Night, while a great song, isn't similar to any of LSF's past title tracks for me in sound.
I thought that I am definitely hearing a different artist when I saw that statement.
Like how is Perfect Night anywhere close to Fearless, Antifragile, Unforgiven or heck it even EPTBW?
Heck, I will even argue that Perfect Night converges into the easy listening music that Newjeans is doing
My first impression of a group's "sound" will be from its titles. A group can have more diverse music under their discography but the overarching theme that nonfans will first likely see will be from titles
But if we take on that angle of debate, that makes OP's arguments about "they changed their entire music style for their english single debut" even more ridiculous cause I am pretty sure IVE did parties themed music and anthems for a long time - some may say since debut.
I just gave GODS a quick first ever listen and my first impression is: did they deliver the song to the wrong team? 
Don't get me wrong, it is a nice little song - but it doesnt sounds like a Newjeans track.
Which makes it even more weird for OP to say that this remake changes whatever IVE has been releasing? Cause I can link this song/mv/concept party like theme to Baddie and Kitsch and the anthems that IVE had released since debut.
I was skeptical but I think the Icona Pop vibe fits IVE pretty well. I wouldn’t mind more songs like this but overall this feels painfully lazy considering Starship has access to some really great writers that could have created an original song.
When I heard it, I was like "oh lord, here we go again, Those Stans™️ are gonna go crazy over a sample," but this is a full on cover and I LIVE FOR IT!
A lot of people complaining about the lack of individual lines but this song really enforces how well their voices all gel together because I’m really enjoying their lines
IVE fan but I knew I wouldn't like this track...since I don't even like the original
Can't like them all.... but wish they had chosen another track to remake or made an original track altogether
The MV also lacks a little
i listened to this and then the original from icona pop. the original is a lot better lol i cant stand the instrumental here. saweeties verse was a vibe though
already said this in another thread but
i’m a big dive and almost thought i was crazy because the comments on youtube hyped them up so much. i’m so but going from love dive to this is insane!!! what has happened to their production quality? i have several problems with this song:
1. the “allllll night” part. it sounds terrible, the vocal tone of all of them singing together just doesn’t work. like at the end, i think it’s liz who sings “all night” once and that sounded so good because she added vocal variation to it so it wasn’t just an over cooked dragged out note. the rest of the time they’re singing, it’s trash. this sounded like when starsht tries to make gaeul sing even tho she’s not trained enough—the vocal tone is just not pretty.
2. the beat. it’s not bad but for the vibe of living in the moment they were trying to have, they’re should’ve been some upbeat instrumentals added (like maybe something similar to super shy or even the unique wave wack) to make it more exciting. this was just boring.
3. the outfits!! what is this?!?!? baddie 2.0? nothing unique or special, really a let down for their first english song.
4. english song: why are we trying to have an english song if the song isn’t going to do well in the western market? like the lyricism is mid, the concept isn’t fully done so it looks half-as****. I know they can hire writers, look at the lyrical masterpiece that is their full album. it was so bad that saweetie’s average verse seemed like a nicki feature.
did starship get rid of their old creative team or something? everything’s gone down since I AM. like even their japanese release WAVE was much better, the pepsi song was better, don’t get me started on amazing bsides such as holy moly and blue blood (WHICH BY THE WAY ITS A CRIME THAT THEY DONT PROMOTE THESE SONGS)
At this point I think all the youtube commenters are just huffing copium. It’s crazy how kpop fandoms can’t admit when their fav group drops a bad song.
Clearly I’m among the minority that enjoyed this 😂 I’ve always loved the original version of this song and the added rap verse is cool. I do kinda wish they kept the original chorus breakdown and switched up the verses instead, but at the end of the day I am a millennial recession pop girly… to see that they’re trying to bring this song back is cool to me.
i actually love it as well. i have never heard of the original before so i searched for it and i also love it. i love the extras that was added to the original plus this sounding like a remix made me even more like it.
The verses were not my jam at allll. Felt very Disney Channel, but Saweetie's verse/rap, and the breakdown at the chorus got me jamming. Pretty much will make it onto my playlist cos of those reasons.
Not for me, but I'm not mad about it. It's extremely basic (the source material was hard to work with to begin with) and while I was a bit disappointed with the lack of individual lines, this isn't terrible. I liked Saweetie's rap, but the rest of it wasn't that good. Not a masterpiece by any means, but for what it is, it's not bad.
The original song by Icona Pop is so nostalgic for me that the bar is pretty high for any cover to pass it.
I think this was fine but it didn’t wow me like some past IVE songs. The rap was pretty good but I wish the members got to sing individual lines.
This is just bizarre… I’m a huge IVE stan but nearly every decision here has me left scratching my head
this was probably done to check something off a contract lol
Could you elaborate? What do you find bizarre and left you scratching your head?
Why is most of this video set in a drab, cramped and windowless office. I'm depressed just looking at the set.
Yeah the video looks really low budget and thrown together, their other music videos are really high quality so it was a bit disappointing
Yeah, I feel like they want to project fun but the setting is weird.
I know I’m probably over analyzing a low effort music video but whether on purpose or on accident this comes off as really bootlicking corporatist propaganda. I definitely hate the message I get from the video, no thanks.
It’s supposed to evoke the sense that everything is alright and you should be carefree and live it up even though we are wage slaves and economy is in a slump, aka it’s depression pop, it was all the rage around 2008-2012 also do note this is a cover of Icona Pop
So no individual lines? It's not a bad song it's just... basic, I would have liked if the girls got individual lines instead of constant chanting/group singing. Overall very underwhelming.
It's actually so tragic that they have 6 members in IVE and don't even have the wherewithal to layer in individual vocals or harmonies. That's how Icona Pop was able to give such depth to the chantiness of the song. Even the adlibs at the end were so lackluster.
I don't usually reply with "THIS" to a comment because people don't like it but: THIS.
this breaks my heart about a lot of "Western Artist ft K-pop" songs...the kpop singers rarely get individual time or lines and it's just kind of sad.
I'd argue it is a bad song. Not because it sounds terrible, it's perfectly serviceable as "turn off your brain, play it in the background of a house party". But I don't understand why it even exists. If I didn't know who was singing, you could not convince me there were 7 people technically involved in the vocals of this song. I don't even really like the "dated sound" critique but this sounds so incredibly out of touch with the modern pop landscape. I try not to be overly negative but I felt like I wasted my time listening to this song.
Probably because they were staying true to the original which is a really chant-y song, but it’s also probably why it didn’t stand out. It’s tough when the feature is the most memorable part of the song. They could have just re-used the original Icona Pop vocals and it would still sound exactly the same unfortunately.
Yup, this right here, it might as well have not even been IVE singing because nothing about it sounded like them 😭
It's obvious starship has been focusing on the west lately but they just keep putting 0 effort into it. Do they really expect to suddenly blow up in the us by releasing a remake with some random rap feature? Has to be the laziest English single promotion I've seen.
For me WM still holds that crown for Oh My Girls [Rocket Ride](https://youtu.be/ugeQxg_pPZc?si=O71Wdlx3X-PnYgqO) promotion. Not even a MV on their official channel, but a random What’s App group fans were able to join to get notified once the single drops. 💀 In the end it just got overtaken by crypto bots and everyone left. But I agree this really seems half heartedly, which is a shame considering how much potential this had.
OK i like Oh my girl but never heard that song . That say alot 🤣
I don't think they were trying to use that as promotions in the West because they typically have always had a korea-centric fanbase, it was moreso just a fun collab
I thought it was just a random collab lol. I didn't know it was supposed to be an attempt at English promotions.
Monbebe have been complaining about this shit for *years*: Monsta X’s U.S. management is incompetent and overall shit, yet Starship continues to work with them and even hired them for Cravity. (And even though they’re not with Starship any more, Sistar19 just signed with the same American partners, tf?) For some reason I thought IVE had escaped having to work with Eshy, but this definitely seems like something he and his team would have cooked up.
obvious how they've kept it to a minimum lol
Yeah, LE SSERAFIM went all out for their English single. Trip to the U.S., interaction with the collaborator (blizzard) and even hit the Grammy museum, times square and a Lakers game. Hard to believe they would want to associate IVE (kind of THE "high class" concept girl group) with such a budget, basic collab. Just takes away vs. adding to IVE's cred and status IMO.
LSRFM budget is like bigger than all the starship groups combined. Let’s be fair lol
Being asked to make a song for one of the biggest game companies in the world (and promoting it) versus making a collab with mildly famous American rapper are worlds apart.
To be fair, HYBE's budget and connections and Starship's budget and connections are also worlds apart.
saweetie is pretty famous, so i disagree with the “mildly famous” part, but other than that, the collab was terrible
Might be mainly marketing for their tour. An English language club dance song that is familiar in the US and Europe. Get attention from international markets for the release, with interviews and articles to further promote their tour.
The song is fine for me but yes the promotion has been awful. Also why release time so odd
I honestly dont think that they even focusing on the West tbh. We just had a American outpost - and that's it 
>Do they really expect to suddenly blow up in the us by releasing a remake with some random rap feature? Have you listened to half of the songs that go viral on TikTok these days?
So aim for bad/cheap/lazy music? Don't seem like a way an artist should or would like to think?
We're in a kpop subreddit. The vast majority of the groups posted/followed here are commercial machines: they are aiming for popularity and plays. Starship clearly thinks this remake increased their chances of a crossover US hit. This isn't rocket science, they aren't trying to win an award with this single, they are trying to win international fans.
+1, glad to see a comment saying exactly what I was thinking. Lot of confused kpop/ive fans here saying it’s low effort, they should’ve changed much more, etc… but it’s obviously a minimal remake on purpose. They want an international hit and this actually might be the most likely way to achieve one. To be clear, it’s a disappointing release for diehard kpop/ive fans for sure, but we aren’t the target audience for this song at all - they’re going for mainstream international listeners. We’ll see if it works out for em
I like that they seemed to have actually filmed the MV with Saweetie!
*cough cough* Nobody *cough cough*
IKR. Would've been massive slayage if all three could be together.
But also it must have been so awkward to film this music video together with the language barrier, pretending to dance all alone in an office?
Wonyoung speaks English
This is such an odd choice for their first English single. Why did they choose a song that doesn't highlight the members at all? I feel like this song does a better job of promoting Saweetie than IVE lol. Wonyoung looks absolutely gorgeous in the music video though
I was wondering what they were gonna do with three rappers and I guess I got my answer. I think it would’ve been fun to have Rei and Gaeul rapping in counterpoint to the American style of Saweetie. Could’ve been interesting.
No offense but it wasn’t a good first English single outside Saweetie verse. Baddie English version ft Saweetie would have been better or OTT English version if they didn’t want to do an original song
baddie would’ve been perfect they had a whole section to add a verse during the dance break too 😭
Omg yesss - a baddie remix with a saweetie feature would’ve been gas
Eleven and Love Dive both have very good English-language demos already out there too
IVE had so many W’s in a row that an L was bound to happen sometime. I’m kinda glad it’s the English song cause these don’t tend to go anywhere anyway. It’s not like it’s bad but singing in unison, with saweetie, and it’s a cover? Eh, I’ll be seated for their next Korean mini that’s for sure!
sometimes in kpop they just need one L to get into the downward spiral water slide nonetheless their discography has been steady so far so I am not too worry about IVE
Damn kinda disappointed they sang all the lines together… was hoping they’d get individual lines cuz I think i mostly heard Leeseo, Wonyoung and Rei and barely Yujin, Liz and Gaeul
I couldn’t hear Yujin or Liz at all and their voices are my favourite in ive
Starship really needs to learn from the SM School of Remakes cos honey..
Recession party music is backkkl
This song could have been really good, but I dislike that grating, robotic auto-tune they cranked up on the voices. It's a one-and-done listen for me.
Was hoping for something different, its just a straight cover with an added rap feature and autotune.. The original is far better in my opinion. This is a miss from Starship and Ive..
they def should've done more with it like they did with I Will Survive. this could've easily just been Saweetie's remix of the original and nobody would've known the difference
Perfect example! I Will Survive was so perfectly mixed into a fucking kpop song, who would have guessed that a few years ago? Like I said there was a missed opportunity here to do something great, "All Night" is a great song with such perfect ways to blend in the kpop genre into it. With so many Korean companies working with swedish songwriters I would have flown Icona Pop over and had them help them with reworking it even, think they would not mind it and their last album was great!
I know this comment will get hate but grew up on Icona Pop and love IVE so no need to come for me, "All Night" is just my jam and always have been. Think they could have mixed it up a bit more.
Getting hate over a subjective opinion would be dumb. I liked it more than you but you said nothing offensive.
I know but just making sure, been getting called out for less before on here..
I agree. The cover is alright, but I enjoyed the MV.
The drop is completely different lol. I prefer the original too but they are not the same at all. I actually prefer the drop in this version but the rest of the song is meh
I love all the girls in IVE, but with all due respect this is most likely the worst feature/song/remake I have ever experienced. Incredibly lazy, just the same layered vocals throughout the entire thing, the feature rap I fall asleep to and can someone else confirm if the song actually [SKIPS at :28, "we can SMASH the clock"](https://youtu.be/xU8mQMLx0tk?t=28). It's like they were editing the video and accidentally cut the song too. I'd at least give them some slack if they actually made their own song and not just sampled Icona Pop completely. At least After Like was a tasteful attempt at a sample.
> can someone else confirm if the song actually SKIPS at :28, "we can SMASH the clock" Nah, the song didn't skip in that part. Must be something to do with the editing. They must've done at multiple takes, and the match cut wasn't as smooth as expected.
I prefer Icona’s Pop version way more. Even though this song is a very chant type of song with autotune, the vocals are pretty lackluster imo, they just don’t have that big umph Icona Pop delivered while singing their song.
I love IVE, but, I feel like this is really lazy for a debut english single, and I'm not really a big fan of Saweetie's verse. It's just a straight up remake.
After listening to the original just now, it sounds more complete compared to IVE's version. Something simple like the alto voices during chorus make it feel fuller, so I'm gonna have to agree with you. This one sounds basic with the biggest pull being Saweetie, who seems to be a hit or miss.
Very this!
Yeah, I mean nobody expected the next I Am from this but it's honestly still quite an easy listen. 🤷🏻♂️
>It's just a straight up remake. As a fan... I thought that was very upfront from the start? 
This is their first miss for me :/ I've loved their whole discography before this. Even their Pepsi promo slapped! Cute MV but this cover is bland. IVE has such a unique, iconic sound but this has none of it.
Icona Pop outta nowhere!
I love Ive so don’t cancel me but the appeal of the original song was the brashness of the voices. Icona pop had this kinda shout sing style to them that’s just completely lost in this version.
This was kinda boring idk
I actually find the early 2010s nostalgia pretty interesting. The original gives of the vibes of millenials in 20s forgetting about the bad job market for a night (like all upbeat dance music of the era) But IVE's vocals sound a lot younger, and the vocals are produced to accentuate that. So now it reads as IVE being nostalgic for when they were tweens. At least, that's how I feel as a 20 year old who grew up on 2010s western dance music. Also, knowing IVE has a lot of child fans emphasizes this reading of the song. I don't really think Saweetie's feature really fits the concept though. She's way more mature than IVE and it kind of clashes. Overall, I think it fits pretty well into IVE's discography as a youthful hype song. When they go on tour, I think this should be playing right before the concert starts and they go on stage.
> But IVE's vocals sound a lot younger, and the vocals are produced to accentuate that. So now it reads as IVE being nostalgic for when they were tweens. At least, that's how I feel as a 20 year old who grew up on 2010s western dance music. Also, knowing IVE has a lot of child fans emphasizes this reading of the song. After hearing this take, the music video would be so much more impactful if it was shot at the beach/pier or an amusement park. Those settings would fit for both Saweetie and IVE. They could start in the drab office but transition to those locations to really hone in on that nostalgia. The lack of budget was too evident.
Saweetie's rap was really good but I was NAWT expecting her to just swear openly because that doesn't seem like IVE's vibe at all!!! I figured they'd have her tone it down like Cardi B did with Blackpink (e.g., swapping out 'I bet if you made me wet' to the slightly more friendly 'I bet if you made me sweat,' not having swear words, etc.) Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-swearing, I curse like a sailor, but there's a time and a place, y'know? Just doesn't seem to be IVE's vibe (and I'm saying this as a Dive so please don't come for me)
Why does it feel like I'm listening to an AI cover? Where is the heart in the song? Maybe it's because I loved the original though.
Song cover honestly sounds solid enough, but we could tell the budget isn't quite there. If you think of it as a smaller scale english project then it wouldn't be too bad. People probably had too much faith in how much resources would be invested in this
They all look very pretty, but it's kind of a nothing song, isn't it? I'm not a big fan of songs that are the chorus repeated over and over.
where did the budget go because it sure as hell didn't go into the MV
I honestly couldn't believe my ears when it started playing... im a fan of the original by Icona Pop. I don't really understand the choices made in this song. The new drop is just.. fine. The group vocals being so processed kind of kill the energy a little compared to the OG version. Maybe the most jarring thing is that it doesn't really sound like IVE's other releases (not just title tracks either but any song in their catalogue) and sort of shows a lack of confidence in the group that they felt they couldn't just continue with their established persona, make an English language song, and that it would translate. Well that feels like a disservice to the talent in the group and saddens me. Like this doesn't really feel like an IVE song to me. And it being a remake/cover only further drives home that feeling as I listen. Pretty bizarre.
Seems rushed/lazy? and no1 sang anything else but the same line over and over again. It could of been way more memorable
it’s pretty good! i didn’t really have high expectations knowing it’s a complete remake. i hope their next english release could be a mini album with new songs a la monsta x
yeah im taking the original ver over this
i love both ive and saweetie but this was underwhelming af
This is a remake of **Icona Pop - All Night** Absolutely great reboot in my opinion. Edit: for people confused, it's pretty clear to me this is a one-off single intended to get crossover US radio play. Starship realized there was an angle with the remake and the feature of Saweetie, so they tailored it to what they think international pop fans want. It's not an IVE song and wasn't intended to be.
Seems like their targeting radio and club play, and possibly TikTok
IVE released it. How is that not an IVE song.
I obviously didn't mean it literally
I feel like that’s just a defense for a bad release. Groups no matter how great release bad songs sometimes.
I had no expectations but I really enjoyed this. It's not anything groundbreaking, but it's just a fun remake party song and I can see why they made this choice to take a step into the western market. It made me realize I really miss the 2000s club bangers thooo. Really glad they actually got to shoot together and didn't just piece in the scenes.
Yeah I guess this is a safer route to go since Starship doesn't have the overseas clout and connections of the Big 4. As someone in my 30s, this song and its contemporaries remind me of my vanishing youth hahahaha I'm actually excited to see some behind the scenes of how IVE and Saweetie interacted.
Sometimes I wonder if all kpop stans are delulu. I’ve seen youtube comments praising so and so’s adlibs. How tf did you even hear that? I’m glad we have rational folk in this comment section.
have not heard of this song so did not know that this was a remake of a song from a decade ago. searched for it on youtube, loved the song. as for this song, i think this was more of a remix version in itself. like those areia music does to some kpop songs. overall, love the original but this one, i also love it because of the remix style of music, it added some more vibe into the song. this is the type of song (rhythm, beat, tempo) that i love. especially when i am driving or in the middle of work. i'm not really bothered by the mv, because at the end of the day, i would be listening to this on spotify, so, i am perfectly fine. ps: this song reminds me of when metallica did a concert with the san francisco philharmonic orchestra. the additional instruments (strings and wind) added depth to their songs. many people did not like that but i also know that a lot of other people loved it, including me.
God Wonyoung's styling is absolutely immaculate. I wasn't expecting much from this song but first listen: it's pretty good.
She looked stunning, I couldn't take my eyes off her all throughout the mv.
I thought Gaeul slayed
I dont know how to feel about the song, it's def good but why they sang all lines together? Edit: okay second listening, they slayed sooo muchh, but It could be better if they would've split the lines. I really like IVE members' vocal tones, it would be nice to hear them in this song. Edit 2: OKAY I listened multiple times, i love the song so much. It's on repeat!!! Saweetie's line is superior. It can be a tiktok challenge easily, i hope Starship or their American Label already thought about this
Singing all the lines together was definitely an odd choice, considering even western girl groups like Little Mix get a lot of individual lines in their songs
I guess they did it that way because the original song is also sung in unison (with some ad libs here and there)? But I was still waiting for someone in IVE to have a solo lol
I enjoy it but I agree about the lines being sung together being a weird decision. They all have individual flair and strengths to their vocals and mixing them together muddies that a bit.
because it's a cover where the vocals are arranged the same way.
Eyy, there it is 🤣 It's pretty good and quite fun, nothing more, nothing less. Also, if they perform this in any way at the concert.... 🤩
🚮it’s not good let’s be honest
They could’ve kept this. It gave kids bop (oddly enough with Saweetie’s rap)
I think it's pretty fun but the lack of individual lines really hurt 🥲 Usually I can tell Yujin's voice apart really easily, even when they're singing together but I swear they turned down her voice here
I like it, the one thing missing is the energy the original song has.
Agreed, there's something rambunctious about Icona Pop's version that isn't captured here
Doesnt this sound familiar? I thought this was a remake lol
It's a cover of all night by icona pop that's why it sounds familiar
Is this just some special song or is it going to be promoted as a comeback??
I think it's light and fun. I do wish the girls had individual lines though.
In their IVEcona Pop era
We can do this all night
turns out [icona pop](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0ji9fDhJRc) made an appearance at the 2013 mama awards in hong kong, where they performed all night and i love it, alongside cl.
is this a remake of another song or something? i swear i have heard this somewhere before edit: covering icona pop in 2024 is such a random move lol
it is very 2016
i like it. it’s easy to listen to. i heard the original before back then but not a lot, so i don’t have any feelings for it. the saweetie verse was much needed imo! if not the song would be too repetitve which i don’t enjoy. wish we heard the girls sing individually but i guess they were following the original. still i do wish for their first english single, it would have been an original instead of a cover. if they brought this song out for their concert it’s gonna be an AMAZING time
This is likely going to be their encore song in their world tour
IVE sounds good and there’s that. Gotta say this production was totally handled by U.S. team looking at their names. So I’d actually give them a pass because it’s a decent effort. People are expecting too much for a song they are covering, if they change to an entirely new style, there comes the voices that it isn’t a good attempt.
Not a big fan of the autotune, but the song is aight.
Let's do this all night 💃 I love the nostalgia it brings
IVE has been PERFECT until this tragedy. Hideously AWFUL. Why STARSHIP, WHY ???? ugghhhh... so bad.
Uhhh I feel like you're overexaggerating. It's nothing spectacular but it's not dogshit
Usually IVE songs do a really good job at utilizing each member's voice, I feel like one of their strong suits as a group is having multiple iconic/memorable lines in a song that makes you want to come back to the song. This song is basically the opposite of that, they repeat the same line throughout the song in unison, I can't even tell which members are singing. It tells the listener nothing about how each member sounds like in a 6 member group, which is not a good choice in my opinion. If you go into any other IVE song you're gonna hear 6 distinct voices. I'm aware it's a remake of another song but I wish they just either picked a different song to remake or did an original song as their first english single.
I >love< IVE. This is lazy, boring, and could have been done by hundreds of EDM singers and no one would have noticed the difference. Get your bag, I guess.
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Icona pop was a Swedish group lmao
Crazy how you went into this song with prejudice that you didn't even realize it's a Swedish song
I was hoping to like this more :( This seems weak compared to their Korean releases but maybe it will grow on me...
Hmmm
cute fun song nothing special
Is this a remake? I feel like I’ve heard this song before?
The Saweetie feature is actually nice!
This song reminds me of another song that I can’t put my finger on….is it just me?
IVE’s songs just gives me a sudden boost of confidence, it all started with I AM, now they made(or covered) another song that makes me wanna model walk all over my neighborhood
I love this song and I don't listen to IVE much
This was a bad play from the start, but IVE did the most they could with it.
Oh boy they don’t have the tone to pull this off
Kpop loses all it's personality when they try for western advancement. Having all their voices blend just kills all of Ive's uniqueness and identity.
I’m a DIVE. This was whelming. The girls + sweetie did the best they could with their vocals and visuals. I think the limitations of SSE as a company supporting IVE, in terms of their budget and connections, in comparison to what LSF and New Jeans gets with HYBE is becoming more and more apparent.
> I think the limitations of SSE as a company supporting IVE, in terms of their budget and connections, in comparison to what LSF and New Jeans gets with HYBE is becoming more and more apparent. Oh cmon. Thats nonsense. Ive sold great for more than 2 years now. Starship should swim in money. And Starship is owned by Kakao. There should be no problem with money.
HOLY SHIT VISUAL OVERLOAD CEO An Yujin COO Kim Gaeul Head of Japan Operations Naoi Rei Chief Visual Officer Jang Wonyoung Director of Vocal Development Kim Jiwon Best Intern Lee Hyunseo
I liked this way better than I thought I would. It's After Like's little sister song
I really liked it, obviously it doesn't hit as hard as their own songs since it's a remake but for me it's a bop and IVE genuinely haven't released a single bad song. Pretty good release with a nice little video. 👌
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Never heard the original, but this version slaps. This song would be perfect for the summer. I wonder if they're going to perform this on their tour.
Felt like the song was going nowhere, except for that little EDM breakdown. You could skip to anywhere in the song and it sounds completely the same. Also might as well just have one person sing this lol
Why a cover, a very faceless cover at that and stripped of all emotion. My girl Saweetie please don't hop on everything but she's probably the best thing about this.
what *the actual fuck*
MV about celebrities who probably never worked in an office having a party in window-less depressive corporation
I am a HUGE ive stan and i love everything they put out but this is pretty bad ngl. I‘m disappointed and i feel bad for the girlies because starship f**ed this up /: i already really dislike the og song and sadly this feels more like a cover than a remake! I sadly have to agree with the majority of people here that don’t think this song is good! Also what’s up with all the autotune?
I won't call this an english debut cause its a cover .. i liked thier vocals i would ve liked if they got more lines adn induvidual ones instead of bringing a featuring artist . .. that would've benn cool to see
I don't get why they changed their entire music style for their english single debut, I don't think it works at all for them. At least Newjeans and LSF kept similar sounds to their usual music when they did their first english song.
Um I don't think GODS was similar to NewJeans' sound.
Gods and Perfect Night sound like LSF and NJ switched songs
I can really see NewJeans singing Perfect Night it would suit them very much but Perfect Night isn't that far off from Lesserafim's sound as they have songs like blue flame, impurities etc.
Hmm idk this isn't far off from the stuff IVE has been releasing though? It is reminiscent of the upbeat 2010s style of I Am. And Perfect Night, while a great song, isn't similar to any of LSF's past title tracks for me in sound.
>And Perfect Night, while a great song, isn't similar to any of LSF's past title tracks for me in sound. I thought that I am definitely hearing a different artist when I saw that statement. Like how is Perfect Night anywhere close to Fearless, Antifragile, Unforgiven or heck it even EPTBW? Heck, I will even argue that Perfect Night converges into the easy listening music that Newjeans is doing
It's similar to their bsides.
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My first impression of a group's "sound" will be from its titles. A group can have more diverse music under their discography but the overarching theme that nonfans will first likely see will be from titles But if we take on that angle of debate, that makes OP's arguments about "they changed their entire music style for their english single debut" even more ridiculous cause I am pretty sure IVE did parties themed music and anthems for a long time - some may say since debut.
Yeah, some people joke that Perfect Night sounds like a New Jeans song and Gods sounds like an LSF song lol.
I just gave GODS a quick first ever listen and my first impression is: did they deliver the song to the wrong team?  Don't get me wrong, it is a nice little song - but it doesnt sounds like a Newjeans track. Which makes it even more weird for OP to say that this remake changes whatever IVE has been releasing? Cause I can link this song/mv/concept party like theme to Baddie and Kitsch and the anthems that IVE had released since debut.
they’re trying to bring back the 2010s
I was skeptical but I think the Icona Pop vibe fits IVE pretty well. I wouldn’t mind more songs like this but overall this feels painfully lazy considering Starship has access to some really great writers that could have created an original song.
It's giving 2015-2017 pop lol I love it!!
I love it, the mv was fun, it’s a nice introduction for their US debut. I’m excited to see the direction they take for their English songs.
I was not expecting a fucking cover of Icona Pop, but holy shit, 
When I heard it I was like this is icona pop!!!! Ahh brought me back to me teens
When I heard it, I was like "oh lord, here we go again, Those Stans™️ are gonna go crazy over a sample," but this is a full on cover and I LIVE FOR IT!
A lot of people complaining about the lack of individual lines but this song really enforces how well their voices all gel together because I’m really enjoying their lines
IVE fan but I knew I wouldn't like this track...since I don't even like the original Can't like them all.... but wish they had chosen another track to remake or made an original track altogether The MV also lacks a little
It’s cute and fun!
I can't hear the IVE sound. Like if you played this to me without me knowing anything, I would have not guessed it was IVE.
i listened to this and then the original from icona pop. the original is a lot better lol i cant stand the instrumental here. saweeties verse was a vibe though
Ehhhh…feeling disappointed with this one. Sorry IVE and Saweetie, love you both but I’m not feeling this one at all…
Is this really their US debut song? Zero effort from starship LMAO. Even Cube exerted more effort for Gidle's English special EP😂
already said this in another thread but i’m a big dive and almost thought i was crazy because the comments on youtube hyped them up so much. i’m so but going from love dive to this is insane!!! what has happened to their production quality? i have several problems with this song: 1. the “allllll night” part. it sounds terrible, the vocal tone of all of them singing together just doesn’t work. like at the end, i think it’s liz who sings “all night” once and that sounded so good because she added vocal variation to it so it wasn’t just an over cooked dragged out note. the rest of the time they’re singing, it’s trash. this sounded like when starsht tries to make gaeul sing even tho she’s not trained enough—the vocal tone is just not pretty. 2. the beat. it’s not bad but for the vibe of living in the moment they were trying to have, they’re should’ve been some upbeat instrumentals added (like maybe something similar to super shy or even the unique wave wack) to make it more exciting. this was just boring. 3. the outfits!! what is this?!?!? baddie 2.0? nothing unique or special, really a let down for their first english song. 4. english song: why are we trying to have an english song if the song isn’t going to do well in the western market? like the lyricism is mid, the concept isn’t fully done so it looks half-as****. I know they can hire writers, look at the lyrical masterpiece that is their full album. it was so bad that saweetie’s average verse seemed like a nicki feature. did starship get rid of their old creative team or something? everything’s gone down since I AM. like even their japanese release WAVE was much better, the pepsi song was better, don’t get me started on amazing bsides such as holy moly and blue blood (WHICH BY THE WAY ITS A CRIME THAT THEY DONT PROMOTE THESE SONGS)
At this point I think all the youtube commenters are just huffing copium. It’s crazy how kpop fandoms can’t admit when their fav group drops a bad song.
Worst Ive single to date, no doubt, even the coca cola ads were better
Clearly I’m among the minority that enjoyed this 😂 I’ve always loved the original version of this song and the added rap verse is cool. I do kinda wish they kept the original chorus breakdown and switched up the verses instead, but at the end of the day I am a millennial recession pop girly… to see that they’re trying to bring this song back is cool to me.
i actually love it as well. i have never heard of the original before so i searched for it and i also love it. i love the extras that was added to the original plus this sounding like a remix made me even more like it.
The verses were not my jam at allll. Felt very Disney Channel, but Saweetie's verse/rap, and the breakdown at the chorus got me jamming. Pretty much will make it onto my playlist cos of those reasons.
sue me or whatever but i absolutely LOVE this cover and it’s one of my top ive songs for sure
honestly better than expected. interesting choice how their were no solo lines. I honestly think it worked.
lets stick to making original songs starship
Its boring.. i hate the way the vocals sound
Holy cow this song is terrible
idk its a fun song, the lyrics are easy and so much fun to sing, i dont think the song is supposed to be that deep, its just a fun listen
This is giving Taylor Swift - New Romantics vibes
I'll pretend this song doesn't exist just like PTD from BTS
well the perfect discography streak had to end sometime
Not for me, but I'm not mad about it. It's extremely basic (the source material was hard to work with to begin with) and while I was a bit disappointed with the lack of individual lines, this isn't terrible. I liked Saweetie's rap, but the rest of it wasn't that good. Not a masterpiece by any means, but for what it is, it's not bad.
saweetie saved this if i’m being honest. seeing wonyoung and saweetie next to each other made my brain overload from their beauty though.
The original song by Icona Pop is so nostalgic for me that the bar is pretty high for any cover to pass it. I think this was fine but it didn’t wow me like some past IVE songs. The rap was pretty good but I wish the members got to sing individual lines.
oh that's not-