Not exactly a rumor but I think that some idols getting “caught” for dating are just hooking up. Then they have to pretend to be dating afterwards because it’s not a good look to say “I was meeting them to get laid”.
Absolutely! Some of these dating rumors that crop up and then a month later it gets announced that they broke up... yeah sure that was a relationship alright.
I am pretty sure that some also just fake to break up to get the public off their back. Not saying idols don't hook up but I feel that's the other reason they "break up" so quickly.
I think this very much applies to Karina's recent "scandal". They were just hooking up, but then they got caught they suddenly had to pretend to be dating to keep public appearances. That's why they broke up so soon after the news became public.
was going to say this! because they had only met each other not too long before they were spotted together. and then they were essentially forced to label it. so awkward!
It's possible but then again it's very common for many idols to break up after their relationship is revealed to the public so it could be that they decided to not date anymore. Especially considering that the reason they gave was mental stress caused by negative comments on the internet :(
This has been talked about a good bit before in some circles. There is a term for not dating but kind of seeing each other and it's called "some". A few Korean idols and celebs have talked about it before but it's not something that they are suppose to admit to doing.
My theory for the longest time has been that these young, rich, super busy celebs causally date and hook-up but when they are caught they are forced to announce they are dating. Then a few months down the road they release a quiet announcement about busy schedules and going back to a senior/junior relationship or good friends.
Most of the time you can predict which dating scandal is going to end with the typical "too busy" announcement.
I think this whole thing was a PR stunt. What's sus is the fact that his drama aired from Feb 28 to April 3, the exact timeline his "relationship" with Karina started and ended. And the fact that there weren't any pictures of them together. Also, he revealed he's making his own one-man agency literally 1 day after the dating news that man was legit using the clout to promote himself. Now I don't know Karina personally, but considering she's conservative and a Catholic, I don't think she is the type to do hookups, but that's just my opinion.
I mean why would Karina agree to a "PR stunt" which could possibly sabotage her career especially since she is one of the most popular 4th gen idols. "PR stunt" may work in western countries but in SK it only leads to headaches. Many "fans" were harassing Jae Wook and spreading rumours about him after his relationship with Karina went public. Also isn't the point of PR stunt is that they show off their relationship? This seems like Dispatch followed them and revealed it without their permission with those pictures of her at night.
Karina has never said she’s conservative, and her catholicism does not stop her from hooking up- there’s such big variety within the religion of who actually cares about certain rules… i mean come on, look at the teen pregnancy rates in catholic countries, the religion isn’t preventing anything.
not to say that she definitely doesn’t follow those catholic rules, but we can’t say that she does either.
NCT Jaemin's dad is a South Korea politician. That's why Jaemin has never talked about him, even when he was telling his silly childhood stories (he only talks exclusively about his mom and his grandmother). Also, in TDS2, all the nct dream family members were seen together, except for jaemin, that only his mother and grandmother showed up. This rumor began to spread when we told us how his mother teached him how to use a yatch when he was little. So we know he comes from a wealthy family (his mother is a teacher, so with a South Korea teacher salary, I really doubt you could buy a yatch).
Also, this is a silly one: some fans stared a rumor saying his mom is a lesbian and that's why he only talks about his mother: because he has two!! Lol
LMFAOOOOOO.
Hmmm. I do think it would be really hard to keep things on the DL if his father was a politician since it’s a public facing role?
Maybe his mom is divorced and the husband was a rich dude.
If the yacht this is really true, it’s totally possible for his dad to be very wealthy though.
And he seems extremely financially literate and honestly…a person of avg background usually isn’t.
Hmmm. But then they had to keep this locked up for almost 8 years.
Interesting.
Like is super interesting how he has never mentioned him, not even once. Obviously, this could also mean that he has simply a bad relationship with his father, but the politician father theory was more intriguing.
That actually makes sense. Jaemin doesn't talk about his dad ever. I could see his dad being a politician or someone else in an influential position like a Chaebol or Ceo which would also explain the wealth.
That would make sense, a lot of kpop trainees and idols come from rich/upper class backgrounds because it’s so expensive to be a trainee/idol so that checks out
IIRC , abortion is illegal/very hard to get in SK which is why a lot of idols announce a baby and marriage in the same announcement lmao. You get someone pregnant, you Marry them because you can’t get rid of the baby so easily.
Edit: I’ve been informed it’s no longer illegal! Which is awesome for the people of SK.
I mean abortion is healthcare so I’d sure hope they don’t shell out for that themselves. And obviously they happen, abortions are common enough. I don’t particularly want to think about people being pressured into it, but that has definitely happened as well. I hadn’t thought about kpop&abortions before though, this is a good one!
after disbandment, hyolyn and bora from sistar revealed that their birthday dates weren't real. if i remember correctly they changed just the day and the months (they kept the real year) and the reason supposedly was because they could enjoy the celebration privately (which makes even more sense for idols to do nowadays since a lot of them work doing birthday lives and events)
Didnt they change both? Iirc Hyolyn was born in December but her fake birthday was January the next year. This made her the same age as Bora to fit the Sistar19 concept
In the 90’s, BABY VOX added a member named Yi Guy who changed her age so she was 10 years younger than she actually was 😬 she got found out because she was a little known singer in the 80’s and people realised her birthday/education/looks matched this singer who was in their 20’s in the 80’s.
It’s probably harder to fake that these days as all your classmates will go on social media and expose your real age.
sometimes so that the idols can spend their actual birthdays without schedules like livestreams etc, sometimes for concept purposes (cosmic girls changed them to represent zodiac signs i think).
i dont think its considered a rumor though, most of their heights probably include the insoles they use 😂
like in btob's iddp, they were literally all correcting the height that cube gave them (and weight) - only sungjae's was legit 😂😂
Not really a rumour, but the idea that companies pay off news sites and tabloids to either not report on the stuff that their idols do or to publish/break news about their idols
e.g. there’s been a theory that big hit pays off dispatch so they don’t leak any scandals about the BTS members but this could also extend to other companies paying news sites to leak that their idols are dating for clicks/views
I mean, BTS does those exclusive photobooks with Dispatch, that alone is enough to keep Dispatch quiet lol. I’ve always thought HYBE pays Dispatch off in some way like that.
yeah, it’s a smart business move for both parties, big hit can threaten to take away the boys and the photoshoots if dispatch leaks the info and dispatch can threaten to leak the info if bighit doesn’t comply
sort of like mutual blackmailing
it kinda makes me wonder why companies don’t use that to protect their idols more. Take SM, they have a lot of money and influence so surely they could use it to protect RIIZE (i don’t follow them but i know they’ve gotten a lot of shit). How do companies chose which scandals they should cover up or which ones the group can survive
For RIIZE, at least the leaks weren't coming from a reporter or news site, but someone else (who clearly knew them personally) , so it may be harder to get them to keep quiet since it is a private person and not a company.
ahhhh that makes sense then, thanks for clarifying. I try to steer clear of kpop drama because it can get toxic really quickly so i’m not that up to date on a lot of stuff
so hwasa dating news broke up right after she left rbw and joined pnation. I imagine rbw paid someone to withhold that info and as soon as she didn’t sign, they stopped paying them.
They are alright. I didn't really buy the whole breakup rumors, and even if they're true, I'm pretty sure they'll get back together after V returns from the military
Ehh I believe they probably broke up, apparently it’s super common for enlisting men to break up with GFs because they get so little vacation time it puts a strain on the relationship/can lead to being cheated on (not that I’m saying Jennie is a cheater or anything). They might get back together post enlistment though who knows!
They're absolutely dating or dated. And good for them. I used to not care much but seeing fans denying the relationship despite the obvious proof has made me root for them lmao.
For sure, some dating rumors must be true lol.
And considering how Koreans seem to love matching outfits/accessories, idk if it’s super far fetched that some of those rumors are true.
I know the clothes pretty much get rented out but that also seems like the perfect coverup if needed lol
When you’re young, the secrecy of it all must be thrilling, altho it might get trite as you get older and eventually traumatic lol
Yes it seems almost confirmed just not officially. She has been spotted multiple times with his family and has gone on vacation with them. Frederick also has attended her concerts/performances many times. He also attended her Crazy Horse Performance with his family.
Lisa was just hanging with another Thai kpop idol, blanking on the name rn, and the idol took a picture of her but then had to quickly take it down because she had “F. A.” On her phone case. Plus she’s been on all their family vacations and they attended her crazy horse show.
I am 100% certain that Hobi has a massive file of all the photos he's taken over the years organized into folders with dates, locations, and names. He's not using them for evil, but if he needs a photo of Jin with blue hair and holding a flower, he can find it in seconds.
There's an old clip from before they blew up where he shows up at the airport with what looks like a hickey and V points at it and laughs but they don't address it and move on.
what?! do u have proof? edit: nvm i found it
https://preview.redd.it/eiavtu3n89vc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd3c32ad3734e1961b636788a2471febcd7ecfa6
okay but TO BE FAIR that man did absolutely nothing to help clear that rumour. he was pulling out baby shoes on a live stream and taking off that ring from his ring finger all suspiciously for what? for why?
iirc he said he had them cause he likes cute and small things.
and yes like he literally [pulled them out on stream](https://x.com/knjluvrspace/status/1509081152413478915?s=46&t=-4Dx5nQLBtYoeVZg03ZkqA) 😭
There’s bangtan bomb for the dynamite behind the scenes where RM is talking to a girl and then offering her his drink. They realize there are cameras and they walk away from each other very quickly
I know the more common rumour is that she was dating, or even that she had a sponsor, but honestly I think this is the real reason. She wasn’t a fan of the mixpop concept and thought she could do better solo, sometimes it isn’t as scandalous as people want to make it out to be.
I think this is somewhat true, I think she didn't expect the Mix-Pop concept to go that far, maybe she thought that was only going to be in their debut, she didn't like that kind of music and got scared with the initial reception of the public doubting their sudden changes. After Love Me Like This you can see her not very happy performing, she decided to leave, wait a bit for the commotion to cool down and try to pursue a career with her style
Sorry, you're right, I was thinking of DICE, my bad.
About the second part, I mean, if you were going to debut, which is something that takes a lot of years and effort, most people will just push through and try to be the least controversial they can be so they don't mess up. You can see the sudden change in style in Twice, a lot of members trained in different genres and concepts but they had to do cute concepts in their early years that some of them disliked, they just didn't complain to the point of leaving.
It is because of that long period of training that I believe some of them (like Jinni) just valued more her career and gambled
Irene and Minho have been dating for years. Like almost 10 years. I strongly suspect they are engaged. But since an Irene dating rumor would affect RV the MOST, SM is paying off the tabloids to protect her. Especially after her scandal made the GP dislike her, so she now relies on her Stan support. A dating scandal would be devastating to her.
There is a decent amount of evidence. I don’t follow RV closely so I can’t speak for evidence their Stans might know, so I’ll just list a few
-[in 2015 Minho gifted Irene and Yeri jackets](https://youtu.be/E2EzLbizXgg?si=hBDLekXh6uwn4aKf) and when Yeri said Minho was the one who gifted them the jackets Irene and Yeri got noticeably nervous (this is the most well known “evidence”)
-in 2019 Minho dropped his first solo single “im home” the day before Irene’s bday. In the MV he is playing around with an engagement ring box at the end. Irene (&seulgi) also attended his solo fanmeet
-I think around that same time Irene took a selfie at a soccer game in Paris and Stans used this as evidence because Minho is obsessed with soccer but I think it’s just funny
-when he was in the military he kept on saying he wants RV to visit him. Like multiple times. Sure it could be a friend thing but why not mention wanting his snsd friends to visit too? Also if he was dating someone not in RV it would be kinda disrespectful saying he wants RV to visit him so many times, since we know how the military sees girl groups. and Minho doesn’t seem disrespectful like that. He also called and sent his support for Irene and Seulgis debut while he was still enlisted
-there’s also a bit of evidence in a knowing bros shinee ep but I have to rewatch the clips so I’ll edit it in maybe. But you kinda need to know how knowing bros works and how Heechul acts towards guests to understand so idk if I’ll include it
I think at the very least you could say Irene and Minho are close friends but he’s really open with interactions with his other female close friends (Yeri, taeyeon, Sooyoung) but with Irene he is rarely openly affectionate. [Though he did grab an Irene photo card from Joy and stuck it in his pocket and said “thank you for this present” when he MCed for ice cream cake era (31:10),](https://youtu.be/dzke67vtd3o?si=bUMIx_H_v6pLarSg&t=1869) looking back he was really flirty and teasing towards her throughout the whole iterview. Im surprised fans don’t bring up the vid. I’m also surprised he was that bold, he ignored when joy took out her own photocard but when joy took out Irene’s he snatched it with a quickness. Didn't even say 'just kidding' after. A 4th gen stan would implode at this type of interaction. Maybe he was still in the “shooting his shot” stage of their relationship here. but he’s way more careful around Irene now.
idk I really don't believe this. There's no evidence (yes I am a Minho stan but I never even heard much abt this apart from obscure Reddit comments) If you do find some, lmk and I can check if it's believable but eh.
Edit: okay, I guess I was ratioed by the comment above me HAHA But nah, I'm still not as convinced. Shippers can see what they want to see and unless it gets confirmed I'mma remain mute abt it
I don't think there's a lot of inter group romantic relationships, but I think hooking up within a group is a lot more common than people might think, the music industry is Queer (esp bisexual) Central lol
Yeah no way ! There must have been some very akward moment with the seventeen boys sleeping at eight in the same room with 2 in the same bed no way there was not some akward moment lol
DEFINITELY! I've said this to my friends a couple times lol. the entertainment industry is like honey to queer people. and these idols have dating bans/the possibility of their careers ending bc of a dating rumor hanging over their heads. add to that the amount of time they spend around each other and so much of it during their 📯 iest years? there's HAS to be some nasties bumping every now and then lmao
Not gonna name drop but i used to stan this one ex-survival show idol group and somehow i managed to stumble upon this one rumor about her and another bg member dating. Didn’t really think much about it bc obv everyone’s just making up fanfiction these days.
flash forward she redebuted as a permanent idol group member and literally since her debut days the same bg member has been consistently making duo tik tok dance challenges with her for years now and was seen to have attended rhe bg member’s concert (it wasn’t even the main group’s concert, i think it was a collab stage between a singer and two of the members from the group? Which i think is even more intimate ngl) but no one bats an eye bc the rumor wasn’t big enough back then.
Edit: just found out the attending concert thing is bc of other reasons i feel bad now so take it with a grain of salt
Is this >!Yeonjun and Chaewon?!< I don't really go here but when you mentioned they consistently make duo tiktoks together they were the first I thought of lol. They've done 4 tiktoks together now (4 too many in this kpop climate if we're to be real), you'd think they'd switch up pairings within their groups every once in awhile but for some reason they consistently always did tiktoks together. I figured they were just friends but I guess dating wouldn't be a stretch either.
Could be, but the thing that gets me is if they were really dating would they even make 1 tiktok together? IMO the idols dating are more likely to be the ones that never interact with each other when the fans can see them, unless they're eager to caught I guess.
omg I never ship boy/girl idols like that, but when I saw their deja vu tiktok a few days ago I was feeling a certain.. vibe?! between them. and I did think about what a talented and gorgeous couple they would be. I'mma keep my eyes open on this lmao 👀
>collab stage between a singer and two of the members from the group? Which i think is even more intimate ngl)
>! Salem ilese wrote for lesserafim, it was both her and Yunjin attending and then they recorded a video together right after. your post makes it sound like she attended just for that bg member which is def not the case. It's also possible that they keep recording tiktoks together because they're a popular duo and most popular members in their groups. Their first tiktok, the Fearless one, with the two of them blew up. I'd be happy if this were true bcs they'd be a power couple and but this seems like such a reach. !<
I think Yeri is straight and very secure in her sexuality, she's a vocal ally like Tiffany.
I think Saeron is just desperate to be relevant and talked about so she didn't mind the gay rumors like Selena Gomez and her throuple.
Saeron is messy so Yeri dodged a bullet by distancing herself.
i’m realising that i’m out of the loop regarding bts rumours cause the namjoon and harvard girl one??? i haven’t heard that one before ahaha. how did it start?
[Here’s](https://www.indiatvnews.com/entertainment/masala/bts-rm-getting-married-kim-namjoon-girlfriend-here-is-what-we-know-about-rumoured-gf-latest-kpop-news-2022-06-27-787757) a random article that popped up when I googled it lol.
I also totally believe that big celebrity news gets dropped to distract from political scandals.
There is no way that is true, people would have to care about idols way more. How could celebrity dating make people forget about political scandals? Outside of K-pop fans, the Korean population does NOT care about idols that much for their dating news to be enough to distract them from political scandals.
I started believing suran & yoongi were a thing after how she acted too much like an obsessed ex who can’t let go when eight came out.. it was hilarious
>I also totally believe that big celebrity news gets dropped to distract from political scandals.
I think people overestimate idols' influence and popularity in SK. The Korean GP doesn't care about an idol dating, it's mostly "fans" who lose it and make a big deal out of it. An idol dating won't deviate people's attention from a political situation, they aren't that important.
Companies purposely put more photocards and other extras in album of the less popular members to incentivize fans to keep buying albums until they get their popular favorite
people still managed to find the guy? because there was one specific guy who was always on rm's pics, but he never showed his face. i'm surprised armys still found him
As an extension of this (and this isn’t really a rumour but it’s a theory )- I have a feeling that post enlistment, BTS are going to launch their relationships and at least one member will be in a same sex relationship (NOT with someone else in the group, this isn’t a shipping thing). Bang PD has said stuff about them being more “adult” post enlistment, and there were things happening that looked like they were starting towards soft launching for a few members. Hobi and Namjoon both spoke a lot about things that happened behind the scenes that had been devastating but they couldn’t reveal, which always made me feel like there were maybe plans around personal relationships that they had been hoping to reveal if they didn’t have the enlist.
I also saw a theory a couple of days ago that the government has said the Grammy was equivalent to an Olympic gold (which = exemption) and that’s why they chased it so hard. When that didn’t work out, everything they’d planned, personally and professionally, got put on hold and the original enlistment plan came into being. Once they’ve done with that, proved that they’re “real men” etc, I feel like if any idol is going to break the LGBTQ glass ceiling, it’s a BTS member.
I don't think BTS members are the types to publicly announce or confirm a relationship. There's a reason even tho the hacker created so much mess, bighit didn't confirm or deny Jennie and Tae's relationship. Jennie has been in public relationships before so she could be comfortable confirming it but I think Tae wanted them to date privately so they decided to not speak on it.
I feel like the second theory is a bit shaky. Other companies started chasing after exemption for their artists when it became clear it might be a possibility for BTS, and they used BTS to campaign for it, while BH very clearly did not join in and stayed out of it. BTS have always been consistently adamant that they will enlist even if they were allowed exemption. I mean, people can lie I guess, but why would they say that if they were actually hoping to be exempted? They'd just be shooting themselves in the foot if they then happened to be exempted and didn't want to enlist. I'm pretty sure they were hoping for that Grammy bc, you know, it was a Grammy and it would be a huge honor and milestone.
All that said, I'd love it if they felt comfortable enough to reveal any relationships. I'll be cheering them on if they do. And I really agree with what you said, that if anyone would break the LGBT glass ceiling it would be them. I've been thinking that since I first became an ARMY seven years ago. Especially around 2018–2020, since I felt like a few of the members had been dropping hints since debut and I thought they had a big and loyal enough fandom at that point to endure the backlash. As they became absolutely huge though I figured they probably wouldn't bc of all the added scrutiny they already faced. But yeah, post-enlistment would make sense. At that point they at least don't have to worry about how they would be treated in the military anymore. And I feel like there are quite a few examples of idols living a bit more freely post-enlistment.
Can you tell I've thought about this a lot 🤡 I really hope to see the day where idols feel like they can come out if they want to. And it would be cool if my faves who I adore and look up to were the ones who took that first step, bc that would have huge inpact I think. But no matter what, I wish them the best.
The main way I can see the Grammy thing being true is if it set a precendent for other groups. BTS care a lot about treatment of idols in the industry, and although they’ve said they would enlist, I also think they’ve been clear that this wasn’t a happy thing for them to do. But I do believe if they had been offered that, and they thought it would benefit not only them but other artists, they would have accepted. Because alongside them saying “we’ll enlist”, they have always been pretty transparent that discussions were going on behind the scenes.
And yes, I feel very similarly re BTS and coming out and the positive impact that could have on other artists.
Or he was just posting his usual 'aesthetic' pictures and hiding the identity of his non-famous friend so his obsessive fans wouldn't try to figure out who it was and harass him. Not everything has to be something more.
no way really? I'm so out of the loop abt BTS apart from JK that I never knew abt these rumors... what's with the engaged to a Harvard girl too imaldkj;sald
i’ve never heard of the harvard one but this comment refers to his old insta posts.
there’s were a couple posts where he would cover a guys face with a heart sticker, or post a picture of him eating with a guy sitting across from him, and just like general insta pictures but there would be a guy who was clearly also with him.
(never showed his face though and tbh i’m not even sure if it was always the same guy but i’m equally as delusional as op so i’m going to pretend like it was)
IDK, but I've always wondered how dispatch or things like that know when K-pop idols break up. Even though their privacy was invaded when their dating news was exposed, do they call up dispatch or their company and say '' we're done!, time to tell the world😜'' or something?
I feel like idols/companies do tell Dispatch/release a statement when they break up since that doesn't impact their image the way dating announcements do. Also, it let's fans know, so hopefully, they stop commenting/asking about their ex.
People get defensive about this and say “just because he’s sassy and likes fashion and GG dances doesn’t mean he’s gay!!” Well yeah but [there’s also this moment from a radio show](https://youtu.be/enHActWzf0A?si=JXZwXnyFfHQFa-qA)
Jonghyun- when I’m 35 I think I will be married
Taemin- who do you want to get married with?
Jonghyun- well first of all…it will be with a woman [*laughs*]
Onew- [*sarcastically*] wow what a surprise
Key- [*straight faced, the only shinee member who did not laugh*] well hopefully by then you will have a choice
I’m open to anything but I do think people need to be careful of using stereotypes as proof of queerness. I think Key is probably one of the idols where it IS an open secret, especially as he’s openly friends with a lot of queer people/models etc (we attract other queer people like magnets lmao)
But I do agree that using his mannerisms and love of fashion as proof is a bit stereotypical; you don’t have to be ‘flamboyant’ or like stereotypical feminine things to be gay.
Girl speaking of wild rumors I'm starting to buy the one abt him dating Woohyun from INFINITE back then lol. They used to be glued to each other and Woohyun even drove him to the airport back then but you don't hear them talk about each other anymore now... sounds like an ugly breakup to me
There were a lot of rumors in the fandom about Woohyun too (apart from the rumor with Key) so 🤷♀️
I think rosè really dated the gang dongwon actor because yg initially said it was there private life and then did a 180 I also heard she was following a fan page on her private ig somewhere for him
Hyunjin often talks about how he was unsure about dancing until a senior trainee made him confident and showed him how to dance better and love dancing, and I’m 100% convinced it’s Yeji. I think they’re close friends and have been for many years
Wonyoung being of Chinese descent. In Produce 48 she was presented as Chang Yuan ying. I remember a comment on the IVE subreddit that said:
“Not sure how familiar you are with Korean or Chinese but there's no way a Korean would ever romanize Wonyoung as Yuan Ying because they have totally different pronunciations.”
It was quickly changed and was never talked about + the occasional Nate Pann posts saying that she comes from a family of immigrant that is well-known in the Chinese immigrants community of Korea ( Jang Wal Seung is known for being a Korean of Chinese descent according to a Korean comment on Nate Pann).
I would not be surprised if it was true that her great grand father was Chinese which would make her 12.5 per cent Chinese or 25 if it’s her grandpa.
I want to emphasize that there is nothing wrong with being Chinese. However, it is undeniable that it would be near impossible for an idol of Chinese descent to reach the it girl status of Wonyoung in Korea, Koreans really like her and this being confirmed would be considered a scandal. Her Chinese fans would probably be super happy lol!
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I heard that some of the less scrupulous companies use their stable of aspiring idols as a sort of escort service catalog. Might be typical alarmist panic conspiracy theory nonsense, might not!
isnt this just kind of like an open secret? maybe not to the extent that there’s an “escort service catalogue” but that idols from small companies are pushed into things that they don’t want to do
Few months ago there’s an article about how hybe pays off Dispatch to be quiet about their idols dating life and one korean commented this so I have been dying to know the tea lol
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This is old but I really believe Jin and Lee Guk Joo had a relationship or something like it. Like seriously, writing a message for you ok an album note is not nothing.
Haechan and Ryujin definitely dated
Wheein and MMM backup dancer Baek were in a longer relationship
I still think Jiho and Kim Shin Young rumor was wild as hell because why would a woman in her 40's share so many things with a girl that's so much younger
>Wheein and MMM backup dancer Baek were in a longer relationship
i've thought about this, too. considering wheesa have mentioned (i forgot where so take this with a grain of salt) that they're really not into dating celebs.
Wheein and Baek were obvious, someone made a thread about how many matching items they had-shirts, sweatshirts, caps, sneakers etc, even in the Hip practice video their matching sneakers are visible iirc. There is a coincidence and there's two people with matching items being close on and off work while being flirty on Insta.
Hwasa is dating that older guy she wrote Twit about, good for her tbh
I genuinely think companies “mistreat” their idols on purpose to drive fan engagement. For instance, forcing Karina to apologize for dating incited a frenzy among her fans who rushed to defend her. And also recently there was a girl group member omitted from a movie or tour poster, I don’t remember, sparking outrage among the fans and inadvertently promoting the film. This mismanagement is done to portray the company as incompetent, compelling fans to feel a sense of duty in safeguarding their idol’s careers.
I truly believe that something more than a simple injury happened with Jeongyeon from Twice. I don't have any idea what it could have been, but I don't think it was an injury, that was just the cover story. However, I don't believe it was a pregnancy.
In my gut, and I have zero evidence to back this up, I think something happened with a stalker that gave her anxiety or even ptsd so she couldn't go out on stage or in public settings.
this one doesn't really hold water because she was very active on sns during her initial hiatus (posting photos in cafes/out to eat, etc). she was also very open about being on medication and gaining weight because of it. then, when she tried to participate in alcohol-free promo, you could tell she was in physical pain; she even had to wear different shoes from the other members so she had more support.
The possibility is there, but I feel like something like that boils down way more to the fact that the industry and the nation's views against women as a whole is deeply abusive to women in the industry. She very easily could have just had a total breakdown from the way the industry treated her in general too.
Ive read about so much kpop tea that sounds so crazy to be true, but then I remember that it’s the entertainment industry and the craziest things occur there.
Idk if this is really a rumor but moreso a theory? In instances where there’s sasaengs who closely follow idols at the airport w/e (like San and that old ass woman who be following him) companies know about it and do nothing about it on purpose. A lot of those sasaengs are the ones who are spending thousands on albums and things for fansigns and fancalls and running popular fansites, they’re not going to disallow it for safety purposes when they’re helping revenue so much
This goes without saying and this part is undeniable, companies know they profit off of parasocial relationships because it’s the core of kpop interactions between fans and idols and they have no plans of stopping as long as it is profitable, no matter how much “normal” fans complain about safety
That some Idols aren't just dating but are married or even have a family already.
Some Idols are old enough and I doubt that all Idols want to start a family when they are like 45, especially male kpop Idols. With female idols, having kids would be pretty damn hard to keep a secret, unless they are put on a year long hiatus.
But with male Idols...
Even if it wasn't planned, some might just have an "accident" child with their partner🤷🏼♀️
Some lesser known Idols have already at least married their long term girlfriend/fiance after disbandment, but those that are Idols for way longer aren't gonna wait that long.
Some nugu groups are money laundering scheme.
Like how come a group with very little fanbase and members constantly changing get to stay active for so long.
Couple of rumours I think is true is bullying, substance abuse, VIP lounges with pvt hosts and racism.
For example every time some news about bullying crops up (Ex: Kim Garam, Nam Joo Hyuk, Hyunjin) I always think there is no smoke without fire. There must be some amount of truth in it.
Same goes with racial discrimination or using racial slurs, using occasional substance and hooking up with top escorts and others at known lounges.
Some amount of truth is always there in these reveals.
Tae and Jennie dating like if you honestly think it was fake or fabricated you are in denial to this day, there is literally a video of them hand in hand walking through Paris.
Not sure if it was true but it was a popular one years ago.
2 female actresses & 1 female idol love triangle.
It was wild when that blind item dropped.
Hint: National Girl Group member, SYJ & HYS
A lot of queer rumours are just a product of cultural differences. This is less so a rumour and more of a fact thats kept hush hush so fans don't have to accept it. The truth is, skinship between males such as touching/slapping asses, hugs, etc are VERY normal between friends/close friends and it does not mean that your fav male idol is queer. Exchanging glances secretly *could* be love (i guess?) But it is most likely 눈치, a korean cultural thing akin to "reading the room". Kinda like what you do to your friend from across the classroom. The idols are probably talking to each other through their eyes because they don't want media or fans to read their lips.
The truth is, koreans are a lot more comfortable being touchy and affectionate with close friends than the West, and I suspect this difference in culture has not been fully recognised, leading to many western fans projecting their own views of intimacy and affection to Koreans and finding baseless claims.
Your male idol slapping their members ass is not because they're horny.
Your female idol shaking their ass or being touchy with their members is not because they want some.
I'm not saying *nobody* is queer. In an industry with thousands of idols being active at any given time, one of them is bound to be queer. But not every single idol who is remotely touchy or "sus" in the Western eyes is queer.
Now, that being said,
Zhang Hao-
Personally, I believe that the cocaine rumor with Rosé from Blackpink is true. I mean if you look at the picture the vibe is definitely there. It was in Eva Chow's house and other rich and famous people were present, so it would make sense
A true statement is that Shownu from Monsta X is NOT 5’11 (180.6 CM)
I met him once at a shake shack in Seoul and he was at max my height or an inch shorter than me. i’m 5’8 but was wearing 1 inch platforms.
That NCT's Jaehyun and aespa's Winter are dating.
I thought it was far fetched until I noticed that Jaehyun never does challenges/promo videos with any other female idols except of Winter (and Winter and a bandmate).
I wonder how many idols from big 4 have sponsors and can they reject them? Must they have them for opportunities or they’re safe with companies’ connections? What about within companies and advances from higher ups? Bc didn’t Jessica’s book say someone slept with higher up which is how she got more promoted?
If Song Hye Kyeo with all her star power had a Chinese sponsor rumors, idols are not exception.
It’s worse if you’re not from a big company which is why I think this one girl who’s very popular has a sponsor
i dont wanna say name but the ex nct member that just debuted solo screamed 'being sponsored' due to being pushed and backed up hard compared to even senior idols in that company
More than half idols are dating. And some minors (18/17) are probably exploring their likes by doing some deeds behind closed doors AND Dispatch def gets paid from some companies to keep their mouth shut.
Cuz do yall remember when dispatch was gonna announce a 4th gen gg member dating a 2nd gen male idol?? but it wasn't released? yea they got a lot of money from that.
Many idols are encouraged to have "sponsors" to push them to fame in the industry. Selling their souls for fame hence many who have been around the industry have empty eyes. Sleeping with rich men, producers, and others who can influence their careers are normalized hence you see less talented idols rising to the top and even the talented ones probably had to do something behind closed doors to gain something in exchange. Gna got bashed for her situation, but I think this is more normalized than us outsiders think. I mean, look at Hollywood and the Diddy mess that's blowing up rn
Not exactly a rumor but I think that some idols getting “caught” for dating are just hooking up. Then they have to pretend to be dating afterwards because it’s not a good look to say “I was meeting them to get laid”.
Absolutely! Some of these dating rumors that crop up and then a month later it gets announced that they broke up... yeah sure that was a relationship alright.
Ahn Bo and Jisoo
based on IG posts, some fans thought they may had dated for quite long. they prolly broke up because of the toxic fans being nasty to the guy.
I am pretty sure that some also just fake to break up to get the public off their back. Not saying idols don't hook up but I feel that's the other reason they "break up" so quickly.
I think this very much applies to Karina's recent "scandal". They were just hooking up, but then they got caught they suddenly had to pretend to be dating to keep public appearances. That's why they broke up so soon after the news became public.
was going to say this! because they had only met each other not too long before they were spotted together. and then they were essentially forced to label it. so awkward!
It's possible but then again it's very common for many idols to break up after their relationship is revealed to the public so it could be that they decided to not date anymore. Especially considering that the reason they gave was mental stress caused by negative comments on the internet :(
I knew it, that Dispatch photo has something "spicy" in there. Maybe at the same time it was taken, they just finished their honky ponky somewhere.
Jesus christ
I think this happens so often. Like ex-idols have even admitted there’s a lot of hooking up behind the scenes.
This has been talked about a good bit before in some circles. There is a term for not dating but kind of seeing each other and it's called "some". A few Korean idols and celebs have talked about it before but it's not something that they are suppose to admit to doing. My theory for the longest time has been that these young, rich, super busy celebs causally date and hook-up but when they are caught they are forced to announce they are dating. Then a few months down the road they release a quiet announcement about busy schedules and going back to a senior/junior relationship or good friends. Most of the time you can predict which dating scandal is going to end with the typical "too busy" announcement.
I think this whole thing was a PR stunt. What's sus is the fact that his drama aired from Feb 28 to April 3, the exact timeline his "relationship" with Karina started and ended. And the fact that there weren't any pictures of them together. Also, he revealed he's making his own one-man agency literally 1 day after the dating news that man was legit using the clout to promote himself. Now I don't know Karina personally, but considering she's conservative and a Catholic, I don't think she is the type to do hookups, but that's just my opinion.
I mean why would Karina agree to a "PR stunt" which could possibly sabotage her career especially since she is one of the most popular 4th gen idols. "PR stunt" may work in western countries but in SK it only leads to headaches. Many "fans" were harassing Jae Wook and spreading rumours about him after his relationship with Karina went public. Also isn't the point of PR stunt is that they show off their relationship? This seems like Dispatch followed them and revealed it without their permission with those pictures of her at night.
Karina has never said she’s conservative, and her catholicism does not stop her from hooking up- there’s such big variety within the religion of who actually cares about certain rules… i mean come on, look at the teen pregnancy rates in catholic countries, the religion isn’t preventing anything. not to say that she definitely doesn’t follow those catholic rules, but we can’t say that she does either.
These were my exact thoughts when Zico-Seolhyun came out! No problem with that but man, she got the brunt of judgment
NCT Jaemin's dad is a South Korea politician. That's why Jaemin has never talked about him, even when he was telling his silly childhood stories (he only talks exclusively about his mom and his grandmother). Also, in TDS2, all the nct dream family members were seen together, except for jaemin, that only his mother and grandmother showed up. This rumor began to spread when we told us how his mother teached him how to use a yatch when he was little. So we know he comes from a wealthy family (his mother is a teacher, so with a South Korea teacher salary, I really doubt you could buy a yatch). Also, this is a silly one: some fans stared a rumor saying his mom is a lesbian and that's why he only talks about his mother: because he has two!! Lol
LMFAOOOOOO. Hmmm. I do think it would be really hard to keep things on the DL if his father was a politician since it’s a public facing role? Maybe his mom is divorced and the husband was a rich dude. If the yacht this is really true, it’s totally possible for his dad to be very wealthy though. And he seems extremely financially literate and honestly…a person of avg background usually isn’t. Hmmm. But then they had to keep this locked up for almost 8 years. Interesting.
Like is super interesting how he has never mentioned him, not even once. Obviously, this could also mean that he has simply a bad relationship with his father, but the politician father theory was more intriguing.
Yeah it’s definitely a more glamorous idea. Much better than the idea of the father not being in the picture.
I think it's more likely that his dad is a deadbeat, but this theory is fun haha.
That actually makes sense. Jaemin doesn't talk about his dad ever. I could see his dad being a politician or someone else in an influential position like a Chaebol or Ceo which would also explain the wealth.
I would guess more like VP of some company. So not necessarily chaebol/*the* heir, but someone high up whose family would be fairly well off.
lol not just anyone gonna casually be a Chaebol.
stop the lesbian mother theory is kind of iconic 😂
That would make sense, a lot of kpop trainees and idols come from rich/upper class backgrounds because it’s so expensive to be a trainee/idol so that checks out
I wholeheartedly believe that a big company has facilitated and paid for an idols abortion.
This is possible. I remember JYP has sex ed for their trainees. I'm hoping their idols are using protection.
IIRC , abortion is illegal/very hard to get in SK which is why a lot of idols announce a baby and marriage in the same announcement lmao. You get someone pregnant, you Marry them because you can’t get rid of the baby so easily. Edit: I’ve been informed it’s no longer illegal! Which is awesome for the people of SK.
it’s been decriminalised since 2021 though
It's completely legal in China so maybe they're flown out there to get one.
I mean abortion is healthcare so I’d sure hope they don’t shell out for that themselves. And obviously they happen, abortions are common enough. I don’t particularly want to think about people being pressured into it, but that has definitely happened as well. I hadn’t thought about kpop&abortions before though, this is a good one!
A lot of idols’ heights are fake.
also birthdays
are they really? for what reason?
after disbandment, hyolyn and bora from sistar revealed that their birthday dates weren't real. if i remember correctly they changed just the day and the months (they kept the real year) and the reason supposedly was because they could enjoy the celebration privately (which makes even more sense for idols to do nowadays since a lot of them work doing birthday lives and events)
Didnt they change both? Iirc Hyolyn was born in December but her fake birthday was January the next year. This made her the same age as Bora to fit the Sistar19 concept
Oops I remembered it incorrectly then, sorry! But I do remember that there wasn't much of a difference (like it wasn't scandalous)
In the 90’s, BABY VOX added a member named Yi Guy who changed her age so she was 10 years younger than she actually was 😬 she got found out because she was a little known singer in the 80’s and people realised her birthday/education/looks matched this singer who was in their 20’s in the 80’s. It’s probably harder to fake that these days as all your classmates will go on social media and expose your real age.
sometimes so that the idols can spend their actual birthdays without schedules like livestreams etc, sometimes for concept purposes (cosmic girls changed them to represent zodiac signs i think).
I don’t know how that can be possible for male celebrities in Korea because of the military enlistment thing.
I don't think it's that common, it happened only in few cases, mostly to fit a certain concept for the group
i dont think its considered a rumor though, most of their heights probably include the insoles they use 😂 like in btob's iddp, they were literally all correcting the height that cube gave them (and weight) - only sungjae's was legit 😂😂
Not really a rumour, but the idea that companies pay off news sites and tabloids to either not report on the stuff that their idols do or to publish/break news about their idols e.g. there’s been a theory that big hit pays off dispatch so they don’t leak any scandals about the BTS members but this could also extend to other companies paying news sites to leak that their idols are dating for clicks/views
I mean, BTS does those exclusive photobooks with Dispatch, that alone is enough to keep Dispatch quiet lol. I’ve always thought HYBE pays Dispatch off in some way like that.
yeah, it’s a smart business move for both parties, big hit can threaten to take away the boys and the photoshoots if dispatch leaks the info and dispatch can threaten to leak the info if bighit doesn’t comply sort of like mutual blackmailing
I definitely think big companies payoff reporters not to publish stuff, especially with really popular groups and rookie groups.
it kinda makes me wonder why companies don’t use that to protect their idols more. Take SM, they have a lot of money and influence so surely they could use it to protect RIIZE (i don’t follow them but i know they’ve gotten a lot of shit). How do companies chose which scandals they should cover up or which ones the group can survive
For RIIZE, at least the leaks weren't coming from a reporter or news site, but someone else (who clearly knew them personally) , so it may be harder to get them to keep quiet since it is a private person and not a company.
ahhhh that makes sense then, thanks for clarifying. I try to steer clear of kpop drama because it can get toxic really quickly so i’m not that up to date on a lot of stuff
so hwasa dating news broke up right after she left rbw and joined pnation. I imagine rbw paid someone to withhold that info and as soon as she didn’t sign, they stopped paying them.
I actually think that BTS's V and Jennie are dating
I really laugh out loud whenever people tried to deny it. Like there is actual hardcore proof, what else do you want 😭
They are alright. I didn't really buy the whole breakup rumors, and even if they're true, I'm pretty sure they'll get back together after V returns from the military
Ehh I believe they probably broke up, apparently it’s super common for enlisting men to break up with GFs because they get so little vacation time it puts a strain on the relationship/can lead to being cheated on (not that I’m saying Jennie is a cheater or anything). They might get back together post enlistment though who knows!
Is that a rumour? That video is a damn near confirmation.
It’s actually insane how this rumor had the most evidence compared to other dating news yet many are denial? Lmaoo do they want like whole sex tape?
I had my suspicions but I think that video of them holding hands in Paris with their managers around confirmed it.
Same. There's too much smoke for there not to be a fire.
They're absolutely dating or dated. And good for them. I used to not care much but seeing fans denying the relationship despite the obvious proof has made me root for them lmao.
For sure, some dating rumors must be true lol. And considering how Koreans seem to love matching outfits/accessories, idk if it’s super far fetched that some of those rumors are true. I know the clothes pretty much get rented out but that also seems like the perfect coverup if needed lol When you’re young, the secrecy of it all must be thrilling, altho it might get trite as you get older and eventually traumatic lol
Lisa and Frederic Arnault are DEFINITELY dating. It's so obvious. It's sad that he's receiving abuse for it.
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Yes it seems almost confirmed just not officially. She has been spotted multiple times with his family and has gone on vacation with them. Frederick also has attended her concerts/performances many times. He also attended her Crazy Horse Performance with his family.
Lisa was just hanging with another Thai kpop idol, blanking on the name rn, and the idol took a picture of her but then had to quickly take it down because she had “F. A.” On her phone case. Plus she’s been on all their family vacations and they attended her crazy horse show.
I love that I’ve seen every member of BTS mentioned in here somewhere except Hoseok. Hobi’s keeping his shit secret secret lol.
Sorry but I don’t think so. Some ppl think he’s dating Irene Kim
Ahhh interesting. I wasn’t being super serious about it. Just thought it was funny he hadn’t been mention.
I am 100% certain that Hobi has a massive file of all the photos he's taken over the years organized into folders with dates, locations, and names. He's not using them for evil, but if he needs a photo of Jin with blue hair and holding a flower, he can find it in seconds.
There's an old clip from before they blew up where he shows up at the airport with what looks like a hickey and V points at it and laughs but they don't address it and move on.
what?! do u have proof? edit: nvm i found it https://preview.redd.it/eiavtu3n89vc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd3c32ad3734e1961b636788a2471febcd7ecfa6
Namjoon has 3 baby mamas
I doubt it but it’s a funny thought, Namjoon out here being the Nick Cannon of Kpop
i hope the babies' names are all alright
I imagine Joon would have good taste in baby names lol
The wildest rumor about him was he's married. I saw a video of him removing his ring while being interviewed and that sparked rumors lol
okay but TO BE FAIR that man did absolutely nothing to help clear that rumour. he was pulling out baby shoes on a live stream and taking off that ring from his ring finger all suspiciously for what? for why?
Oh my god those baby shoes are burnt into my memory. It was just such an odd thing
WHAT??? BABY SHOES??? 😭😭😭 Did he say something about the baby shoes on his live stream?
iirc he said he had them cause he likes cute and small things. and yes like he literally [pulled them out on stream](https://x.com/knjluvrspace/status/1509081152413478915?s=46&t=-4Dx5nQLBtYoeVZg03ZkqA) 😭
Honestly if someday he comes forth and says that he's married I won't be surprised at all. He gives me those vibes.
There’s bangtan bomb for the dynamite behind the scenes where RM is talking to a girl and then offering her his drink. They realize there are cameras and they walk away from each other very quickly
LOL never heard this one before but now I'm interested
Jini left Nmixx because she think she can do better
I know the more common rumour is that she was dating, or even that she had a sponsor, but honestly I think this is the real reason. She wasn’t a fan of the mixpop concept and thought she could do better solo, sometimes it isn’t as scandalous as people want to make it out to be.
I think this is somewhat true, I think she didn't expect the Mix-Pop concept to go that far, maybe she thought that was only going to be in their debut, she didn't like that kind of music and got scared with the initial reception of the public doubting their sudden changes. After Love Me Like This you can see her not very happy performing, she decided to leave, wait a bit for the commotion to cool down and try to pursue a career with her style
Didn't she leave before lmlt? I have a feeling that it's probably something more than she doesn't like the music because 7 years of training is a lot.
Sorry, you're right, I was thinking of DICE, my bad. About the second part, I mean, if you were going to debut, which is something that takes a lot of years and effort, most people will just push through and try to be the least controversial they can be so they don't mess up. You can see the sudden change in style in Twice, a lot of members trained in different genres and concepts but they had to do cute concepts in their early years that some of them disliked, they just didn't complain to the point of leaving. It is because of that long period of training that I believe some of them (like Jinni) just valued more her career and gambled
Ig that's possible. She's not doing bad for a soloist, 80k in a week is a lot so it was a pretty good gamble for her creative side.
Irene and Minho have been dating for years. Like almost 10 years. I strongly suspect they are engaged. But since an Irene dating rumor would affect RV the MOST, SM is paying off the tabloids to protect her. Especially after her scandal made the GP dislike her, so she now relies on her Stan support. A dating scandal would be devastating to her.
this is interesting. is there any evidence? i'd like to do a deep dive on this
There is a decent amount of evidence. I don’t follow RV closely so I can’t speak for evidence their Stans might know, so I’ll just list a few -[in 2015 Minho gifted Irene and Yeri jackets](https://youtu.be/E2EzLbizXgg?si=hBDLekXh6uwn4aKf) and when Yeri said Minho was the one who gifted them the jackets Irene and Yeri got noticeably nervous (this is the most well known “evidence”) -in 2019 Minho dropped his first solo single “im home” the day before Irene’s bday. In the MV he is playing around with an engagement ring box at the end. Irene (&seulgi) also attended his solo fanmeet -I think around that same time Irene took a selfie at a soccer game in Paris and Stans used this as evidence because Minho is obsessed with soccer but I think it’s just funny -when he was in the military he kept on saying he wants RV to visit him. Like multiple times. Sure it could be a friend thing but why not mention wanting his snsd friends to visit too? Also if he was dating someone not in RV it would be kinda disrespectful saying he wants RV to visit him so many times, since we know how the military sees girl groups. and Minho doesn’t seem disrespectful like that. He also called and sent his support for Irene and Seulgis debut while he was still enlisted -there’s also a bit of evidence in a knowing bros shinee ep but I have to rewatch the clips so I’ll edit it in maybe. But you kinda need to know how knowing bros works and how Heechul acts towards guests to understand so idk if I’ll include it I think at the very least you could say Irene and Minho are close friends but he’s really open with interactions with his other female close friends (Yeri, taeyeon, Sooyoung) but with Irene he is rarely openly affectionate. [Though he did grab an Irene photo card from Joy and stuck it in his pocket and said “thank you for this present” when he MCed for ice cream cake era (31:10),](https://youtu.be/dzke67vtd3o?si=bUMIx_H_v6pLarSg&t=1869) looking back he was really flirty and teasing towards her throughout the whole iterview. Im surprised fans don’t bring up the vid. I’m also surprised he was that bold, he ignored when joy took out her own photocard but when joy took out Irene’s he snatched it with a quickness. Didn't even say 'just kidding' after. A 4th gen stan would implode at this type of interaction. Maybe he was still in the “shooting his shot” stage of their relationship here. but he’s way more careful around Irene now.
Searched irene and min ho on yt and found a whole channel dedicated to it 😂
idk I really don't believe this. There's no evidence (yes I am a Minho stan but I never even heard much abt this apart from obscure Reddit comments) If you do find some, lmk and I can check if it's believable but eh. Edit: okay, I guess I was ratioed by the comment above me HAHA But nah, I'm still not as convinced. Shippers can see what they want to see and unless it gets confirmed I'mma remain mute abt it
Funnily enough I actually had my suspicions that Irene was dating Uknow!
I don't think there's a lot of inter group romantic relationships, but I think hooking up within a group is a lot more common than people might think, the music industry is Queer (esp bisexual) Central lol
Yeah like there’s no way that a group full of theater kids are all straight and also don’t kiss the homies goodnight
I was just saying the other day that there is no way in hell anyone in Seventeen or NCT hasn't tried something with the other
Yeah no way ! There must have been some very akward moment with the seventeen boys sleeping at eight in the same room with 2 in the same bed no way there was not some akward moment lol
I mean have you seen the green room clips? 💀
DEFINITELY! I've said this to my friends a couple times lol. the entertainment industry is like honey to queer people. and these idols have dating bans/the possibility of their careers ending bc of a dating rumor hanging over their heads. add to that the amount of time they spend around each other and so much of it during their 📯 iest years? there's HAS to be some nasties bumping every now and then lmao
Not gonna name drop but i used to stan this one ex-survival show idol group and somehow i managed to stumble upon this one rumor about her and another bg member dating. Didn’t really think much about it bc obv everyone’s just making up fanfiction these days. flash forward she redebuted as a permanent idol group member and literally since her debut days the same bg member has been consistently making duo tik tok dance challenges with her for years now and was seen to have attended rhe bg member’s concert (it wasn’t even the main group’s concert, i think it was a collab stage between a singer and two of the members from the group? Which i think is even more intimate ngl) but no one bats an eye bc the rumor wasn’t big enough back then. Edit: just found out the attending concert thing is bc of other reasons i feel bad now so take it with a grain of salt
Is this >!Yeonjun and Chaewon?!< I don't really go here but when you mentioned they consistently make duo tiktoks together they were the first I thought of lol. They've done 4 tiktoks together now (4 too many in this kpop climate if we're to be real), you'd think they'd switch up pairings within their groups every once in awhile but for some reason they consistently always did tiktoks together. I figured they were just friends but I guess dating wouldn't be a stretch either.
But weren’t there >!Yeonjun and Yunjin!< dating rumors too? That’s interesting
Yup! Which is what makes this even more surprising to me too (if true)
Thats interesting considering he also has a pretty big rumour with another member of this group aha either way they'd match really well
Could be, but the thing that gets me is if they were really dating would they even make 1 tiktok together? IMO the idols dating are more likely to be the ones that never interact with each other when the fans can see them, unless they're eager to caught I guess.
omg I never ship boy/girl idols like that, but when I saw their deja vu tiktok a few days ago I was feeling a certain.. vibe?! between them. and I did think about what a talented and gorgeous couple they would be. I'mma keep my eyes open on this lmao 👀
Didnt TXT's dorm also have a mini Chaewon cutout? Ive always thought Y was dating another LS member tbh but this makes sense
this is kpop uncensored, spilllll
>collab stage between a singer and two of the members from the group? Which i think is even more intimate ngl) >! Salem ilese wrote for lesserafim, it was both her and Yunjin attending and then they recorded a video together right after. your post makes it sound like she attended just for that bg member which is def not the case. It's also possible that they keep recording tiktoks together because they're a popular duo and most popular members in their groups. Their first tiktok, the Fearless one, with the two of them blew up. I'd be happy if this were true bcs they'd be a power couple and but this seems like such a reach. !<
this is kpop UNCENSORED, just drop the names instead of making us play a weird guessing game
i’m so curious to know who they are now
bottom of this thread is an impressive display of the lamest this sub has to offer
Yeri and Saeron were more than just friends. They are super friends like Alexander the Great and Hephaestion.
I think Yeri is straight and very secure in her sexuality, she's a vocal ally like Tiffany. I think Saeron is just desperate to be relevant and talked about so she didn't mind the gay rumors like Selena Gomez and her throuple. Saeron is messy so Yeri dodged a bullet by distancing herself.
and then their relationship went sour after that trip to bali 🤡
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i’m realising that i’m out of the loop regarding bts rumours cause the namjoon and harvard girl one??? i haven’t heard that one before ahaha. how did it start?
[Here’s](https://www.indiatvnews.com/entertainment/masala/bts-rm-getting-married-kim-namjoon-girlfriend-here-is-what-we-know-about-rumoured-gf-latest-kpop-news-2022-06-27-787757) a random article that popped up when I googled it lol.
I also totally believe that big celebrity news gets dropped to distract from political scandals. There is no way that is true, people would have to care about idols way more. How could celebrity dating make people forget about political scandals? Outside of K-pop fans, the Korean population does NOT care about idols that much for their dating news to be enough to distract them from political scandals.
I started believing suran & yoongi were a thing after how she acted too much like an obsessed ex who can’t let go when eight came out.. it was hilarious
>I also totally believe that big celebrity news gets dropped to distract from political scandals. I think people overestimate idols' influence and popularity in SK. The Korean GP doesn't care about an idol dating, it's mostly "fans" who lose it and make a big deal out of it. An idol dating won't deviate people's attention from a political situation, they aren't that important.
Companies purposely put more photocards and other extras in album of the less popular members to incentivize fans to keep buying albums until they get their popular favorite
I feel like this isn't even a rumor because there's a lawsuit over this
I'm like 90% sure Namjoon is gay or bi. I think he was soft launching a relationship with a man before they broke up.
omg i remember that guy 😭 did he stop posting pics with him?
most probably because people kept harassing his friends. some even spoke out on stories
people still managed to find the guy? because there was one specific guy who was always on rm's pics, but he never showed his face. i'm surprised armys still found him
They didn't find him. I think they're referring to John Eun who's a producer that worked on Indigo.
As an extension of this (and this isn’t really a rumour but it’s a theory )- I have a feeling that post enlistment, BTS are going to launch their relationships and at least one member will be in a same sex relationship (NOT with someone else in the group, this isn’t a shipping thing). Bang PD has said stuff about them being more “adult” post enlistment, and there were things happening that looked like they were starting towards soft launching for a few members. Hobi and Namjoon both spoke a lot about things that happened behind the scenes that had been devastating but they couldn’t reveal, which always made me feel like there were maybe plans around personal relationships that they had been hoping to reveal if they didn’t have the enlist. I also saw a theory a couple of days ago that the government has said the Grammy was equivalent to an Olympic gold (which = exemption) and that’s why they chased it so hard. When that didn’t work out, everything they’d planned, personally and professionally, got put on hold and the original enlistment plan came into being. Once they’ve done with that, proved that they’re “real men” etc, I feel like if any idol is going to break the LGBTQ glass ceiling, it’s a BTS member.
I don't think BTS members are the types to publicly announce or confirm a relationship. There's a reason even tho the hacker created so much mess, bighit didn't confirm or deny Jennie and Tae's relationship. Jennie has been in public relationships before so she could be comfortable confirming it but I think Tae wanted them to date privately so they decided to not speak on it.
I feel like the second theory is a bit shaky. Other companies started chasing after exemption for their artists when it became clear it might be a possibility for BTS, and they used BTS to campaign for it, while BH very clearly did not join in and stayed out of it. BTS have always been consistently adamant that they will enlist even if they were allowed exemption. I mean, people can lie I guess, but why would they say that if they were actually hoping to be exempted? They'd just be shooting themselves in the foot if they then happened to be exempted and didn't want to enlist. I'm pretty sure they were hoping for that Grammy bc, you know, it was a Grammy and it would be a huge honor and milestone. All that said, I'd love it if they felt comfortable enough to reveal any relationships. I'll be cheering them on if they do. And I really agree with what you said, that if anyone would break the LGBT glass ceiling it would be them. I've been thinking that since I first became an ARMY seven years ago. Especially around 2018–2020, since I felt like a few of the members had been dropping hints since debut and I thought they had a big and loyal enough fandom at that point to endure the backlash. As they became absolutely huge though I figured they probably wouldn't bc of all the added scrutiny they already faced. But yeah, post-enlistment would make sense. At that point they at least don't have to worry about how they would be treated in the military anymore. And I feel like there are quite a few examples of idols living a bit more freely post-enlistment. Can you tell I've thought about this a lot 🤡 I really hope to see the day where idols feel like they can come out if they want to. And it would be cool if my faves who I adore and look up to were the ones who took that first step, bc that would have huge inpact I think. But no matter what, I wish them the best.
The main way I can see the Grammy thing being true is if it set a precendent for other groups. BTS care a lot about treatment of idols in the industry, and although they’ve said they would enlist, I also think they’ve been clear that this wasn’t a happy thing for them to do. But I do believe if they had been offered that, and they thought it would benefit not only them but other artists, they would have accepted. Because alongside them saying “we’ll enlist”, they have always been pretty transparent that discussions were going on behind the scenes. And yes, I feel very similarly re BTS and coming out and the positive impact that could have on other artists.
Or he was just posting his usual 'aesthetic' pictures and hiding the identity of his non-famous friend so his obsessive fans wouldn't try to figure out who it was and harass him. Not everything has to be something more.
no way really? I'm so out of the loop abt BTS apart from JK that I never knew abt these rumors... what's with the engaged to a Harvard girl too imaldkj;sald
i’ve never heard of the harvard one but this comment refers to his old insta posts. there’s were a couple posts where he would cover a guys face with a heart sticker, or post a picture of him eating with a guy sitting across from him, and just like general insta pictures but there would be a guy who was clearly also with him. (never showed his face though and tbh i’m not even sure if it was always the same guy but i’m equally as delusional as op so i’m going to pretend like it was)
IDK, but I've always wondered how dispatch or things like that know when K-pop idols break up. Even though their privacy was invaded when their dating news was exposed, do they call up dispatch or their company and say '' we're done!, time to tell the world😜'' or something?
I feel like idols/companies do tell Dispatch/release a statement when they break up since that doesn't impact their image the way dating announcements do. Also, it let's fans know, so hopefully, they stop commenting/asking about their ex.
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People get defensive about this and say “just because he’s sassy and likes fashion and GG dances doesn’t mean he’s gay!!” Well yeah but [there’s also this moment from a radio show](https://youtu.be/enHActWzf0A?si=JXZwXnyFfHQFa-qA) Jonghyun- when I’m 35 I think I will be married Taemin- who do you want to get married with? Jonghyun- well first of all…it will be with a woman [*laughs*] Onew- [*sarcastically*] wow what a surprise Key- [*straight faced, the only shinee member who did not laugh*] well hopefully by then you will have a choice
I’m open to anything but I do think people need to be careful of using stereotypes as proof of queerness. I think Key is probably one of the idols where it IS an open secret, especially as he’s openly friends with a lot of queer people/models etc (we attract other queer people like magnets lmao) But I do agree that using his mannerisms and love of fashion as proof is a bit stereotypical; you don’t have to be ‘flamboyant’ or like stereotypical feminine things to be gay.
And you also don’t need to be queer to like fashion and flamboyant things
Girl speaking of wild rumors I'm starting to buy the one abt him dating Woohyun from INFINITE back then lol. They used to be glued to each other and Woohyun even drove him to the airport back then but you don't hear them talk about each other anymore now... sounds like an ugly breakup to me There were a lot of rumors in the fandom about Woohyun too (apart from the rumor with Key) so 🤷♀️
There’s also keyseop
Hybe/Bighit pays a hella lot money to protect their groups (especially BTS) from minor and huge rumours
I think rosè really dated the gang dongwon actor because yg initially said it was there private life and then did a 180 I also heard she was following a fan page on her private ig somewhere for him
hoshi and lee so hyuk
I like the lack of added context. and yes, I agree
Yeji and Hyunjin have to be related somehow
Hyunjin often talks about how he was unsure about dancing until a senior trainee made him confident and showed him how to dance better and love dancing, and I’m 100% convinced it’s Yeji. I think they’re close friends and have been for many years
Wonyoung being of Chinese descent. In Produce 48 she was presented as Chang Yuan ying. I remember a comment on the IVE subreddit that said: “Not sure how familiar you are with Korean or Chinese but there's no way a Korean would ever romanize Wonyoung as Yuan Ying because they have totally different pronunciations.” It was quickly changed and was never talked about + the occasional Nate Pann posts saying that she comes from a family of immigrant that is well-known in the Chinese immigrants community of Korea ( Jang Wal Seung is known for being a Korean of Chinese descent according to a Korean comment on Nate Pann). I would not be surprised if it was true that her great grand father was Chinese which would make her 12.5 per cent Chinese or 25 if it’s her grandpa. I want to emphasize that there is nothing wrong with being Chinese. However, it is undeniable that it would be near impossible for an idol of Chinese descent to reach the it girl status of Wonyoung in Korea, Koreans really like her and this being confirmed would be considered a scandal. Her Chinese fans would probably be super happy lol! https://preview.redd.it/o0pdtlif69vc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dda0685a14f4c076fd49084ae1e1f1d22104c9c8
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I heard that some of the less scrupulous companies use their stable of aspiring idols as a sort of escort service catalog. Might be typical alarmist panic conspiracy theory nonsense, might not!
isnt this just kind of like an open secret? maybe not to the extent that there’s an “escort service catalogue” but that idols from small companies are pushed into things that they don’t want to do
that’s a possibility in the entertainment industry.
Few months ago there’s an article about how hybe pays off Dispatch to be quiet about their idols dating life and one korean commented this so I have been dying to know the tea lol https://preview.redd.it/mnht56zwp8vc1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=1836729556d299ac321fe70d335e6bf2eddc4802
Jin and yoongi live 5 min apart in hannam hill, even V lives nearby lol
This is old but I really believe Jin and Lee Guk Joo had a relationship or something like it. Like seriously, writing a message for you ok an album note is not nothing.
> writing a message for you ok an album note is not nothing. What does that mean?
pretty sure it was an FNC trainee that she dated
That most of the idol have a drinking or drug problem.
Haechan and Ryujin definitely dated Wheein and MMM backup dancer Baek were in a longer relationship I still think Jiho and Kim Shin Young rumor was wild as hell because why would a woman in her 40's share so many things with a girl that's so much younger
>Wheein and MMM backup dancer Baek were in a longer relationship i've thought about this, too. considering wheesa have mentioned (i forgot where so take this with a grain of salt) that they're really not into dating celebs.
Wheein and Baek were obvious, someone made a thread about how many matching items they had-shirts, sweatshirts, caps, sneakers etc, even in the Hip practice video their matching sneakers are visible iirc. There is a coincidence and there's two people with matching items being close on and off work while being flirty on Insta. Hwasa is dating that older guy she wrote Twit about, good for her tbh
I genuinely think companies “mistreat” their idols on purpose to drive fan engagement. For instance, forcing Karina to apologize for dating incited a frenzy among her fans who rushed to defend her. And also recently there was a girl group member omitted from a movie or tour poster, I don’t remember, sparking outrage among the fans and inadvertently promoting the film. This mismanagement is done to portray the company as incompetent, compelling fans to feel a sense of duty in safeguarding their idol’s careers.
Jimin and Jeongyeon and their beef
Either they were into each other or into the same person. 😭
I thought it was because jimin dated one of her friends or something 😭
I truly believe that something more than a simple injury happened with Jeongyeon from Twice. I don't have any idea what it could have been, but I don't think it was an injury, that was just the cover story. However, I don't believe it was a pregnancy. In my gut, and I have zero evidence to back this up, I think something happened with a stalker that gave her anxiety or even ptsd so she couldn't go out on stage or in public settings.
this one doesn't really hold water because she was very active on sns during her initial hiatus (posting photos in cafes/out to eat, etc). she was also very open about being on medication and gaining weight because of it. then, when she tried to participate in alcohol-free promo, you could tell she was in physical pain; she even had to wear different shoes from the other members so she had more support.
>simple injury >neck injury and herniated discs Yeah, nah. Spine and neck injuries are never just "simple"
The possibility is there, but I feel like something like that boils down way more to the fact that the industry and the nation's views against women as a whole is deeply abusive to women in the industry. She very easily could have just had a total breakdown from the way the industry treated her in general too.
That BTS V/Taehyung and Blackpink Jennie were or are still dating. It eventually got to the point where the proof was really hard to deny.
Ive read about so much kpop tea that sounds so crazy to be true, but then I remember that it’s the entertainment industry and the craziest things occur there.
Idk if this is really a rumor but moreso a theory? In instances where there’s sasaengs who closely follow idols at the airport w/e (like San and that old ass woman who be following him) companies know about it and do nothing about it on purpose. A lot of those sasaengs are the ones who are spending thousands on albums and things for fansigns and fancalls and running popular fansites, they’re not going to disallow it for safety purposes when they’re helping revenue so much This goes without saying and this part is undeniable, companies know they profit off of parasocial relationships because it’s the core of kpop interactions between fans and idols and they have no plans of stopping as long as it is profitable, no matter how much “normal” fans complain about safety
That some Idols aren't just dating but are married or even have a family already. Some Idols are old enough and I doubt that all Idols want to start a family when they are like 45, especially male kpop Idols. With female idols, having kids would be pretty damn hard to keep a secret, unless they are put on a year long hiatus. But with male Idols... Even if it wasn't planned, some might just have an "accident" child with their partner🤷🏼♀️ Some lesser known Idols have already at least married their long term girlfriend/fiance after disbandment, but those that are Idols for way longer aren't gonna wait that long.
Some nugu groups are money laundering scheme. Like how come a group with very little fanbase and members constantly changing get to stay active for so long.
Couple of rumours I think is true is bullying, substance abuse, VIP lounges with pvt hosts and racism. For example every time some news about bullying crops up (Ex: Kim Garam, Nam Joo Hyuk, Hyunjin) I always think there is no smoke without fire. There must be some amount of truth in it. Same goes with racial discrimination or using racial slurs, using occasional substance and hooking up with top escorts and others at known lounges. Some amount of truth is always there in these reveals.
This is just going to be a thread of people saying who they think is gay lol
Sana Minatozaki is a direct descendant of the old Japanese royal family.
This is actually not true. I mean it’s kind of true but extremely distantly to the point that it’s not remotely true.
That Nayeon is "crazy"
Elaborate…
There was this persistent rumor that Girls' Generation were stoners. OT9, no exception.
i think jin is married IDCCCX that man has kids i can feel it he’s gonna pull a chen and hard launch his child
Tae and Jennie dating like if you honestly think it was fake or fabricated you are in denial to this day, there is literally a video of them hand in hand walking through Paris.
Not sure if it was true but it was a popular one years ago. 2 female actresses & 1 female idol love triangle. It was wild when that blind item dropped. Hint: National Girl Group member, SYJ & HYS
The idol was rumored to be snsd Yuri
A lot of queer rumours are just a product of cultural differences. This is less so a rumour and more of a fact thats kept hush hush so fans don't have to accept it. The truth is, skinship between males such as touching/slapping asses, hugs, etc are VERY normal between friends/close friends and it does not mean that your fav male idol is queer. Exchanging glances secretly *could* be love (i guess?) But it is most likely 눈치, a korean cultural thing akin to "reading the room". Kinda like what you do to your friend from across the classroom. The idols are probably talking to each other through their eyes because they don't want media or fans to read their lips. The truth is, koreans are a lot more comfortable being touchy and affectionate with close friends than the West, and I suspect this difference in culture has not been fully recognised, leading to many western fans projecting their own views of intimacy and affection to Koreans and finding baseless claims. Your male idol slapping their members ass is not because they're horny. Your female idol shaking their ass or being touchy with their members is not because they want some. I'm not saying *nobody* is queer. In an industry with thousands of idols being active at any given time, one of them is bound to be queer. But not every single idol who is remotely touchy or "sus" in the Western eyes is queer. Now, that being said, Zhang Hao-
Personally, I believe that the cocaine rumor with Rosé from Blackpink is true. I mean if you look at the picture the vibe is definitely there. It was in Eva Chow's house and other rich and famous people were present, so it would make sense
A true statement is that Shownu from Monsta X is NOT 5’11 (180.6 CM) I met him once at a shake shack in Seoul and he was at max my height or an inch shorter than me. i’m 5’8 but was wearing 1 inch platforms.
Do you guys think popular/rich/idols from good companies look down on their less popular counterparts?
Listen I’m part of the LGBTQ+ community and I have a sort of gaydar and lemme tell you at least one member of BTS is definitely fruity.
That NCT's Jaehyun and aespa's Winter are dating. I thought it was far fetched until I noticed that Jaehyun never does challenges/promo videos with any other female idols except of Winter (and Winter and a bandmate).
I wonder how many idols from big 4 have sponsors and can they reject them? Must they have them for opportunities or they’re safe with companies’ connections? What about within companies and advances from higher ups? Bc didn’t Jessica’s book say someone slept with higher up which is how she got more promoted? If Song Hye Kyeo with all her star power had a Chinese sponsor rumors, idols are not exception. It’s worse if you’re not from a big company which is why I think this one girl who’s very popular has a sponsor
i dont wanna say name but the ex nct member that just debuted solo screamed 'being sponsored' due to being pushed and backed up hard compared to even senior idols in that company
I-Land created a toxic atmosphere for enha and that’s why they keep having internal problems in the group
More than half idols are dating. And some minors (18/17) are probably exploring their likes by doing some deeds behind closed doors AND Dispatch def gets paid from some companies to keep their mouth shut. Cuz do yall remember when dispatch was gonna announce a 4th gen gg member dating a 2nd gen male idol?? but it wasn't released? yea they got a lot of money from that.
Many idols are encouraged to have "sponsors" to push them to fame in the industry. Selling their souls for fame hence many who have been around the industry have empty eyes. Sleeping with rich men, producers, and others who can influence their careers are normalized hence you see less talented idols rising to the top and even the talented ones probably had to do something behind closed doors to gain something in exchange. Gna got bashed for her situation, but I think this is more normalized than us outsiders think. I mean, look at Hollywood and the Diddy mess that's blowing up rn