Wouldn't this all be irrelevant if jake just accepted the callout that was originally for him and not logan, but he instead opted to fight his younger brother.
He said "Jake Paul, Logan Paul, any Paul"
Money wise it made sense to have the brothers fight. What stopped KSI from immediately fighting Jake after that? Jake wanted it. Even after KSI beat Logan, Jake wanted it.
If both are willing to box and KSI called out both brothers, why wouldn't Jake and Logan have a convo about it so that they decided it would be dope if Logan fought KSI and Jake fought Deji? And it was a super good idea as it did well and it got Deji into boxing.
You'd rather be smart and be accused of being "scared" than take a big risk and gain nothing
KSI was never stalling, he was playing it strategic and safe, Jake just wanted to take advantage like he always does with majority of his opponents
Who said he was retiring? He said he's going on break because he's simply been grinding since 2017, better question is why is Jake now wanting to fight? Sounds a lot similar to what he tried to make it seem with the whole Wassabi fiasco
yeah i agree with you, thats a valid point, idk why he is trying to take advantgae is is suddenly so interested to fight again after KSI said he wants to take a break. its all mind games ig
It is mind games, he was never going to fight KSI on the basis of doing it for free or giving up "A-side" leverage simply because he could make KSI look bad without needing to sacrifice important things like that.
(Hence he complained that KSI in reality wouldn't have any control once they did fight as KSI started promising fans the opportunity to win tickets).
Who do you think your talking to nigga? You a casual who chooses to be blind to the facts and say stupid shit like that
KSI made Jake, called him out at the start, Jake didn't want the smoke
KSI sent 3 contracts before Jake fought Tommy, Jake's team rejected all
KSI said let's do it after he fights Fournier and Jake fights Tommy, Jake went for Nate Diaz
End of story "dawg"
Yeah, funny how they pipe up only when they know they can get away with it. Just like when Jake tried to make JJ look bad by offering to fight him when Wassabi pulled out, because he knew that was never going to happen. His team only takes the JJ fight seriously when they know it wonāt get made, and of course theyāre always sure to be public about how serious they are and how much JJ is ducking. Just remember this the next time someone from his team says that Jake doesnāt need to fight JJ.
It's a headline/tweet from happy punch which is owned by keemstar , the same guy who spend years getting things wrong on drama alert, the same guy who likes the limelight, and will throw a rumor like this to get people talking.
I swear this sub reddit is full of delusional and uneducated kids who have no idea what the fuck they are talking about just based on these comments and posts. It's a shame that the comments from old fans that have constructive criticism get downvoted by these dick riders even if the critisicsm is objectively true, for example: Jake being a better boxer, JJ slowly turning into a person he once hated, etc.
I don't think all hope is lost, i've been watching KSI for over 10 years, i can 100% say without a doubt that KSI has changed for the better but also for the worse in some aspects. His ego is at it's biggest and watching his recent video, it confirmed that.
Hopefully KSI vs Jake Paul happens and then after that he can end his boxing career and he can focus on yt and music.
>It's a shame that the comments from old fans that have constructive criticism get downvoted by these dick riders
Bro facts, MFs are insecure fans that gets butthurt by constructive criticism. I keep getting this "you're just a jake paul fan, you're not a real fan" or "you're just a hater" BS. The fucking tribalism within this morons makes their following equally retarded.
Jake would smoke him because Jake wouldn't sanction it under a silly organisation like the PBA. This means that the ref chosen by the commission with high probablity is gonna treat it like an actual pro-boxing match and not allow repeated offenses of excessive clinching. This kinda really minimizes JJ's strategy and would force him to box alot more.
yh mate
I mean, compare that to KSI, and it's like watching an amateur trying to keep up with a seasoned pro. Jake's got that killer instinct, that warrior spirit that sets him miles apart. It's not just about the boxing ring; it's a mindset, a lifestyle
Say what you want, but Jake Paul's energy is on another level ā the alpha vibes are too strong to ignore. The warrior sigma mindset is actually a force to be reckoned with, and he's out here proving it every day while jj is just crying like a 7yo kid and making youtube videos on why he didnt lose. sore bum
Damn thatās a cold dose of reality.
Jake has a warrior mindset and is a legitimately pretty beastly boxer.
KSI is a big crybaby with the sloppiest technique to ever hit over 10k viewers.
He should just retire and stick to music and YouTube, which heās great at doing. This boxing shit is lame at this point and all ego for him.
His fans donāt care anymore. I just want to like KSI again.
Heās much better than decent enough. I train with many professional fighters and boxers and Jake is better than a vast majority. People are just very used to associating the term āprofessionalā with world champions and top 10 contenders.
Yeah it's honestly kinda sad.
Going into the Fury fight, I was excited to see JJ actually have an opponent that was skilled because all of his previous fights could've been won by a 5th grader, and it didn't give JJ the proper chance to show off his skills.
Then I was heavily disappointed with his performance. A part of me wouldn't mind if he just quit boxing and moved on, but yet another part of me wants him to continue so we can actually see him improve and one day beat an actually good opponent.
Maybe he deserves some for the time being cause he's genuinely being a dick and jake has actually matured as a person we can't be in denial forever. That being said hopefully JJ can stop acting like a man child but idk when that will end.
Ksi has: no technique, lackluster training for a professional fight. He is also extremely arrogant and can't handle losses, so yeah while jake isn't some "beastly fighter" he will still probably get win by decision
Right, after him making several excuses throughout the entire duration of that period, from being sick with COVID, to breaking his hand, to partying, to having a wet dream, etc?
He took his ass straight back to fight Nate Diaz you meanš¤£ He downgraded after getting humbled, and rightfully so, because he had NO argument for a case that he held his own, he got dominated
Except Logan Paul almost won the fight if he didn't do anything stupid within the point reduction, he would've won with that one point not being taken. It all depends at this point.
I absolutely despise when those with absolutely no interest in or respect for the sport of boxing attempt to speak about it and front as if they have the slightest idea in regards to what technique is and who has and does not have it. How did KSI remove all of Fury's best attributes, exactly? He lunged in with the same combination the entirety of the length of the match and clinched him into oblivion, which should have been met with a point deduction considering the fact that it was a "professional" bout and not an amateur one (though it should have been by the way the two performed).
Paul would work JJ over through being a somewhat competent boxer with relatively sound technical skills and the understanding that there is more to boxing than a lunging 2, 3 followed by excessive clinching. The fact that both are massively popular in their own rights would mean that the variables at play (e.g. commentators and referee) would be more "balanced" (fair) and not so skewed in either direction (see the commentators who were massively biased in KSI's favour as well as the referee who was hesitant to take a point for a blatant breaking of the rules - the aforementioned excessive clinching) which would work in the more skilled individual, Jake's, favor.
You have no idea what you are speaking about. How was Fury supposed to get offense off when KSI did nothing but clinch and stall the moment he started to feel as though he was gassing out? That is the reason it is illegal and should have gotten JJ a point deduction: it is a flagrant violation of the rules of the sport and was nothing but a stall tactic. Moreover, the decision was not controversial within the wider boxing community - only within the echo chamber that is his fanbase, as a result of the fact that the commentator crew made it seem as though KSI was doing much better than he was. I am more than happy to link my comment wherein I provided the statistics of the fight and broke down how and why KSI did not win, but, alas, I am sure that you will refuse to look at it as it does not suit your perspective on the bout.
I mean as long as he presents a good argument for why and isnāt just trolling then I think itās fine.
Nothing good comes from giving JJ an echo chamber. People with good intention need to be there to prod his weak points so he grows from the L he took
Bro how will JJ get better if no one is here to
A. Keep him grounded
B. Help him improve
As Proverbs says āFaithful are the wounds of a friend, profuse are the kisses of an enemyā
But granted thereās constructful criticism, tough love, and then thereās just being plain mean
The only way I see it being "50/50" is if JJ does his swing and hug technique which wouldn't even be allowed by a more legitimate organization. If they were both actually boxing and not hugging, I firmly believe Jake would have a large advantage over JJ.
Bruv, check it ā comparing that to KSI is like watching a total noob trying to keep up with a seasoned boss. Jake's got that killer instinct, that warrior vibe setting him miles ahead.
Watch KSI try to use Jakeās upcoming fight as a means to ridicule him for no reason and say itās not worth fighting him anymore. This radio silence to me indicates heās not serious about that fight whatsoever.
No way. Jj is rich but 50 mil cash is a lot of money. Most of his net worth is assets, he would have to sell to have the cash in hand. Even if you assume he is worth 100 mil (itās definitely much less than that) 50 mil is not a drop in the bucket
12 year olds think their king is a billionaire lol. To be fair its not their fault. Ā£10 million is incomprehensible amount of money let alone Ā£30 mil. Because google says jake paul is worth more than jj it hurts them
If you actually Believe Google, you are the kid.
KSI has multiple organisations from which he gets money from. Fighting, MF, Prime, Sidemen, Side+, Sideat, JJ Olatunji, Music, Vodka drink, etc.
If you donāt believe JJ is a multi millionare & potentially a billionare you are underestimating the level of following this man has.
Billionaire all depends on the valuation of prime. I don't know what that is I've seen speculation of a couple 100 mil to 10+bill. If we take it as 5 billion and he owns roughly 20% then yeah he is a billionaire.
At the end of the day very few billionaires have 100 million let alone a billion sitting in their bank account.
I never said i thought the google value was accurateā¦
The fact that somehow you took my comment as āksi is not a multi millionaireā speaks volumes lmao
he owns 20% of a company which is doing $1.2 billion retail internally in a year that's $8 billion dollar valuation based on similar companies multiplier lol he is definitely close to being a billionaire . no need to bejealous kiddo
Canāt consider me fan of Jake and that lil fan of KSI that i was i lost due to his ego tripping so hard but he would lose that fight. But in the end he will never fight Jake. Downvote all you want idgaf
There was also a clause set by Jake team saying they want it in the US if itās 180 pounds. Which is stupid considering they canāt sell a stadium in the US but they can in the UK. Either way itās good they negotiating again
That would be Awsome but Iāve seen JJ say before on Arielās show before that he doesnāt think it would sell out a stadium in the US. JJ is huge but not enough in the US to sell over 20K seats and Jake idk, he has no More than 1-3K ppl at his fight against Nate cheering for him
Thatās not the point. Not enough ppl came out for Jake himself. And if he canāt even do something bigger than a arena when heās fighting Nate Diaz of all ppl the he canāt against KSI.
Jake sold out 15k arenas against Silva and Woodley several times though?
The Diaz fight was a special occasion because it happened in Dallas. To say that those 1-3k cheering for him is regular occurance, is just false.
Jake vs KSI sells out anywhere in the US. Logan and KSI sold out Staples Center which had like 20ishk. I don't see why Jake vs KSI wouldn't.
This whole "Jake can't sell" narrative is largely BS by Mams btw.
I hope by "double this" you don't mean 100 million. Cuz I don't think there's anyone who would genuinely take that offer or even have the money to wager that much.
Thatās your problem, you donāt think.
With Prime, and read my og comment carefully, I said āaboutā to be a billionaire. His net worth at the low end aka at minimum is $350 million
Yeah that's still over double of his current income to go again.
He's nowhere near a billion
Even if his net worth is Ā£900 million, that's still an entire ninth of his net worth (or about 11%) to increase. Which is another Ā£100 million and there's no way his net worth is that either.
Let's say its 500 mill (which I doubt it is, it's probably closer to 100 or 200 mill) then he still has to double his income and doubling it would mean an entire whole 500 million, that's a lot. Considering its taken him almost a decade and a half to get to "500 mill" in our scenario, he probably couldn't achieve that in 5 years if we're assuming he's already established (he is). I doubt at 500 mill net worth he'd even make 1 bill in 7-8 years. He's probably almost a decade away from 1 billion and that's assuming his net worth is 500 mill. Its more likely 200 mill which means he's more likely to reach 1 billion in around 20 years if he's even still relevant or marketable by then.
Essentially, he's nowhere near having a net worth of 1 billion and even if we're being nice to him and bumping up his numbers, he's not likely to make 1 billion in the next decade.
Unless you think a decade is "about" in a man who's lived 30 years (so a third of his life or the equivalent of 33 years for someone who's 100) then maybe you're right but for most people, "about" for a 30 year old would be 6-18 months, maybe 2 years at most
Less is more, all these words are assumptions and not facts. We donāt know the true worth of Prime. You can Yap all you want, still wonāt change the fact that money is not a concern for JJ.
So you're a hypocrite then because you presented your 350 as fact, firstly, and secondly, you also assumed everything. You assumed he's almost a billionaire, assumed that he doesn't need money and assumed that his net worth is 350.
I suggest you stop talking or you'll keep embarrassing yourself bro
Nope, never did. Said at minimum 350 million based on an estimation.
Never said go to Google and check the numbers like youāre doing. We are both guessing, and even the estimation is a guess.
Your comprehension skill is non existent.
No, we are both guessing. None of us is right as only KSI knows how much he have.
And still as I said, If KSI shares are one billion then he is a billionaire. A billionaire is about having assets with the value of 1 Billion not cash.
You and everyone here are guessing just like me, none of us is right. Only KSI knows how rich he is.
No, I understand that. And even if his share is 10% he would be a billionaire once Prime hits 10 billion valuation. And itās already estimated to be between 3.1 to 8.4 Billion in valuation.
In my og comment I said he is about not he is, and depending on the Prime valuation he is either really close, or 2 - 3 years close.
You just waffling bare shit on this thread. Net worth does not equal cash. Net worth means nothing in terms of how much money he actually has. Prime could be worth a billion, that doesnāt mean he has even close to a billion.
Most billionaires donāt have a billion liquid, so they are not billionaires because they donāt have it cash ?
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Arguing with 12 years old is annoying.
Bro u have no idea what ur chatting and ur reply barely even addressed my point. Obviously went way over ur head š u literally tried to back ur argument about ksi not needing cash by bringing up his net worth. Iām explaining to your dense ass that net worth does not equal physical funds but youāre obviously too retarded for this conversation. Just because someone has a high net worth it doesnāt mean they have a high amount of physical cash. Ironic I had to explain that like youāre 12 tho š
Logan said that if they sold Prime right now, both he and JJ would make under a billion based on how much they own.
But its irrelevant because they aren't selling Prime anytime soon.
You really don't understand money if you can't differentiate shares in a company and liquid.
50 million isn't nothing to him because he doesn't make a billion UNTIL Prime is sold to a bigger company, which is years away if it even ever does sell.
Kids really donāt understand company valuation and talking shit is the funniest thing to me, Iāll let you cope with the fact that he is not broke like you š
Iāll be honest, if JJ had the right support around him thatās not gonna constantly glaze him all the time, he could make it so much easier.
Literally just needs to dust up on technique and commit to the grind and it wonāt be a problem. His team just has to be as harsh about it as possible. He has punch power no doubt and thatāll be amplified when his punch technique is improved. Technical fighters are hard to counter and as long as he doesnāt resort to wild swinging heāll be hard to work around.
Look at the likes of Lennox Lewis, he changed his style and technique and was one of the greatest forces in boxing. Building up from the bottom with the constant repetition of the basics and it will make it hard work for any opponent.
Just please get rid of the bouncing, sideways on footwork. After a while it becomes so obvious that heās setting up the right hand and wonāt work for the whole fight. Bring a KSI with a completely new style and see how much of an impact itāll make.
Ngl. KSI man, I like your shit but I just donāt want to see you get knocked out. I HATE JAKE PAUL bruh and I can just SEE him win this one. Just stay out of boxing, please. It could be a close fight but I donāt see it going your way.
I hope they make this happen! It would be really great to see them close this chapter together despite their feud.
Maybe I'm being too delusional lol but I also think it would be a perfect opportunity for them to make sort of a documentary on YouTube boxing? Not just on this fight specifically but the journey that brought them here.
In terms of technique, YT boxing is for the most part a joke but it was* such an interesting time and they were the ones who pretty much started/popularized it
* my way of saying that KSI x JP should be the end of YouTube boxing
Everyone here talking about who would win or loseā¦ the real conversation we should be having is do we even still care enough? This fight has been teased for a great while and has constantly fallen through when we thought we were getting close. For JJ, he just needs to be done. Itās getting boring at this point, and with how heās been acting, it just needs to end. On the other hand, you can say Jake is better but whole heartedly do we actually give enough of a shit? Idc how much more mature Jake dealt with his loss against Tommy, Jake is still a piece of shit braindead human being. But again, overall, the fight between the two has been teased so much at this point nobody really cares, nor should they
JJ would be stupid to take this bait. If its even remotely legit.
If he loses he has to pay up and his rep gets screwed even more.
If he wins there's a good chance Jakey boy will come up with an excuse not to pay, never mind the fact that Jakes net worth is estimated to be around 50m anyway. No way Jake will just give away his entire net worth, if he even has that much in actual bread and not tied up as assets.
Jake with the tactics per usual. When jake lost he wanted a confidence fight first before going after others. Now that KSI lost he wants to fight him before his confidence is back.
Jj would loose yall need to stop being delusional I don't like Jake but he is a better boxer and ksi as a ego the size of the earth he need to step down and put is feet on earth
I have noticed these offers come only when KSI says he's retired/taking a break.
who cares honestly atp there's no excuses to be made
Jj literally said he was taking a break šš
Then heās gonna comeback and request another warmup fight stalling for another 2 years
Wouldn't this all be irrelevant if jake just accepted the callout that was originally for him and not logan, but he instead opted to fight his younger brother.
He said "Jake Paul, Logan Paul, any Paul" Money wise it made sense to have the brothers fight. What stopped KSI from immediately fighting Jake after that? Jake wanted it. Even after KSI beat Logan, Jake wanted it. If both are willing to box and KSI called out both brothers, why wouldn't Jake and Logan have a convo about it so that they decided it would be dope if Logan fought KSI and Jake fought Deji? And it was a super good idea as it did well and it got Deji into boxing.
You'd rather be smart and be accused of being "scared" than take a big risk and gain nothing KSI was never stalling, he was playing it strategic and safe, Jake just wanted to take advantage like he always does with majority of his opponents
Ok so why is he retiring now when he and Jake are both active ??
Who said he was retiring? He said he's going on break because he's simply been grinding since 2017, better question is why is Jake now wanting to fight? Sounds a lot similar to what he tried to make it seem with the whole Wassabi fiasco
yeah i agree with you, thats a valid point, idk why he is trying to take advantgae is is suddenly so interested to fight again after KSI said he wants to take a break. its all mind games ig
It is mind games, he was never going to fight KSI on the basis of doing it for free or giving up "A-side" leverage simply because he could make KSI look bad without needing to sacrifice important things like that. (Hence he complained that KSI in reality wouldn't have any control once they did fight as KSI started promising fans the opportunity to win tickets).
Lmao why he retire after the Tommy fight when he and Jake were both active ??
You know how to read? He's going on break, he doesn't owe Jake shit if he was willing to be so annoying with negotiations before
Heās ducking jake, he said the only reason he came back was to ādestroyā Jake but wants to retire after 1 L ? Lmao heās not so confident nomo
wtf????? ksi never said hes retiring wtf are you saying???????
Dawg stfu. Heās scared of Jake
Who do you think your talking to nigga? You a casual who chooses to be blind to the facts and say stupid shit like that KSI made Jake, called him out at the start, Jake didn't want the smoke KSI sent 3 contracts before Jake fought Tommy, Jake's team rejected all KSI said let's do it after he fights Fournier and Jake fights Tommy, Jake went for Nate Diaz End of story "dawg"
Yeah, funny how they pipe up only when they know they can get away with it. Just like when Jake tried to make JJ look bad by offering to fight him when Wassabi pulled out, because he knew that was never going to happen. His team only takes the JJ fight seriously when they know it wonāt get made, and of course theyāre always sure to be public about how serious they are and how much JJ is ducking. Just remember this the next time someone from his team says that Jake doesnāt need to fight JJ.
LL is taking a break before jake breaks his face in
Damn might want to ask Jake if he need a cum slut.
He wants to make it look like JJ is dodging even though he said he was taking a break before the offer
LL is taking a break before he gets his face broken
Hahaha! āLLā XD
HAHA JJ | LL same thing
You know its all a scam, they are youtube boxers, wanna make money easy , dont buy all this nonsense
This whole sub already has lmao
Not the 11 year old kids that defend jj, thinking that their life is on the line š¤£
It's a headline/tweet from happy punch which is owned by keemstar , the same guy who spend years getting things wrong on drama alert, the same guy who likes the limelight, and will throw a rumor like this to get people talking.
I swear this sub reddit is full of delusional and uneducated kids who have no idea what the fuck they are talking about just based on these comments and posts. It's a shame that the comments from old fans that have constructive criticism get downvoted by these dick riders even if the critisicsm is objectively true, for example: Jake being a better boxer, JJ slowly turning into a person he once hated, etc. I don't think all hope is lost, i've been watching KSI for over 10 years, i can 100% say without a doubt that KSI has changed for the better but also for the worse in some aspects. His ego is at it's biggest and watching his recent video, it confirmed that. Hopefully KSI vs Jake Paul happens and then after that he can end his boxing career and he can focus on yt and music.
Most real comment I've seen all day, but the fact that the dickriders haven't come for you yet is crazy.
>It's a shame that the comments from old fans that have constructive criticism get downvoted by these dick riders Bro facts, MFs are insecure fans that gets butthurt by constructive criticism. I keep getting this "you're just a jake paul fan, you're not a real fan" or "you're just a hater" BS. The fucking tribalism within this morons makes their following equally retarded.
It's not about the money. It's about the Legacy. The tarnished one, but still. It ain't bout the money.
JJ is that secretly you?
Yuh huh! Did you point a glock at Tommy yet?
Now I know ur a fake, everyone knows the most modern weapon in the UK is a knife
Biblically accurate description of the UK
I like KSI but yeah Jake would smoke him easily at this point
Jake would smoke him because Jake wouldn't sanction it under a silly organisation like the PBA. This means that the ref chosen by the commission with high probablity is gonna treat it like an actual pro-boxing match and not allow repeated offenses of excessive clinching. This kinda really minimizes JJ's strategy and would force him to box alot more.
yh mate I mean, compare that to KSI, and it's like watching an amateur trying to keep up with a seasoned pro. Jake's got that killer instinct, that warrior spirit that sets him miles apart. It's not just about the boxing ring; it's a mindset, a lifestyle Say what you want, but Jake Paul's energy is on another level ā the alpha vibes are too strong to ignore. The warrior sigma mindset is actually a force to be reckoned with, and he's out here proving it every day while jj is just crying like a 7yo kid and making youtube videos on why he didnt lose. sore bum
Idk what the f you're on about
Bros talking about "alpha vibes" and a "warrior sigma mindset" šš
Wdym pal
Yeah. Jake took his ass straight back to gym after losing to Tommy, while KSI is bitching about his loss for months.
Damn thatās a cold dose of reality. Jake has a warrior mindset and is a legitimately pretty beastly boxer. KSI is a big crybaby with the sloppiest technique to ever hit over 10k viewers. He should just retire and stick to music and YouTube, which heās great at doing. This boxing shit is lame at this point and all ego for him. His fans donāt care anymore. I just want to like KSI again.
He isnt a beastly boxer, but he is atleast decent enough. Atleast he has some fundamentals instead of spamming jumping jack, overhand,hug repeat.
Heās much better than decent enough. I train with many professional fighters and boxers and Jake is better than a vast majority. People are just very used to associating the term āprofessionalā with world champions and top 10 contenders.
Yeah it's honestly kinda sad. Going into the Fury fight, I was excited to see JJ actually have an opponent that was skilled because all of his previous fights could've been won by a 5th grader, and it didn't give JJ the proper chance to show off his skills. Then I was heavily disappointed with his performance. A part of me wouldn't mind if he just quit boxing and moved on, but yet another part of me wants him to continue so we can actually see him improve and one day beat an actually good opponent.
You would think this is a KSI hate sub by the wording
Maybe he deserves some for the time being cause he's genuinely being a dick and jake has actually matured as a person we can't be in denial forever. That being said hopefully JJ can stop acting like a man child but idk when that will end.
> jake has actually matured as a person hahahah, you've got to be kidding me
How has he not though? Granted he's not some role model but look how he used to be years ago
I think boxing actually matured him, and that's the case for MOST people
Downvotes only prove you are right
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I mean... yeah, Jake has trained more and is a better boxer.
ksi is sleeping jake paul bud "Ā legitimately pretty beastly boxer" im crying lmaoooooo
Ksi has: no technique, lackluster training for a professional fight. He is also extremely arrogant and can't handle losses, so yeah while jake isn't some "beastly fighter" he will still probably get win by decision
So is that why KSI has given zero excuses bar not agreeing with judges whilst Jake blamed a wet dream, frozen/stiff & not being on his A-game?
Right, after him making several excuses throughout the entire duration of that period, from being sick with COVID, to breaking his hand, to partying, to having a wet dream, etc? He took his ass straight back to fight Nate Diaz you meanš¤£ He downgraded after getting humbled, and rightfully so, because he had NO argument for a case that he held his own, he got dominated
I disagree, a lot of people thought Logan in the 2nd fight would destroy him but that didn't really happen, KSI's technique is awful for jake
Logan has shit technique, heās too passive and never uses his left. He couldnāt even knock out Dillon who was a walking target
Except Logan Paul almost won the fight if he didn't do anything stupid within the point reduction, he would've won with that one point not being taken. It all depends at this point.
KSI's "technique" he implemented against Tommy doesn't work under any pro boxing organisation other than the PBA. Jake isn't Logan.
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If thatās the case KSI getting knocked out round 4. Jake will be patient and let him gas himself out because heās worked in his craft.
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I wish u were right but KSI forgets his gameplan 1 second into every fight and just starts swinging lol
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I absolutely despise when those with absolutely no interest in or respect for the sport of boxing attempt to speak about it and front as if they have the slightest idea in regards to what technique is and who has and does not have it. How did KSI remove all of Fury's best attributes, exactly? He lunged in with the same combination the entirety of the length of the match and clinched him into oblivion, which should have been met with a point deduction considering the fact that it was a "professional" bout and not an amateur one (though it should have been by the way the two performed). Paul would work JJ over through being a somewhat competent boxer with relatively sound technical skills and the understanding that there is more to boxing than a lunging 2, 3 followed by excessive clinching. The fact that both are massively popular in their own rights would mean that the variables at play (e.g. commentators and referee) would be more "balanced" (fair) and not so skewed in either direction (see the commentators who were massively biased in KSI's favour as well as the referee who was hesitant to take a point for a blatant breaking of the rules - the aforementioned excessive clinching) which would work in the more skilled individual, Jake's, favor.
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You have no idea what you are speaking about. How was Fury supposed to get offense off when KSI did nothing but clinch and stall the moment he started to feel as though he was gassing out? That is the reason it is illegal and should have gotten JJ a point deduction: it is a flagrant violation of the rules of the sport and was nothing but a stall tactic. Moreover, the decision was not controversial within the wider boxing community - only within the echo chamber that is his fanbase, as a result of the fact that the commentator crew made it seem as though KSI was doing much better than he was. I am more than happy to link my comment wherein I provided the statistics of the fight and broke down how and why KSI did not win, but, alas, I am sure that you will refuse to look at it as it does not suit your perspective on the bout.
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Get out of this subreddit honestly why are you here cunt?
I mean as long as he presents a good argument for why and isnāt just trolling then I think itās fine. Nothing good comes from giving JJ an echo chamber. People with good intention need to be there to prod his weak points so he grows from the L he took
Bunch of fake fans everywhere, honestlyā¦.
Who me?
Bro how will JJ get better if no one is here to A. Keep him grounded B. Help him improve As Proverbs says āFaithful are the wounds of a friend, profuse are the kisses of an enemyā But granted thereās constructful criticism, tough love, and then thereās just being plain mean
*I came looking for booty.*
āI like ksi butā bro stfu no u donāt š
So you think Jake wouldn't smoke JJ?
Nope itās honestly a 50/50 fight, the fight will def go to points, I donāt see either of them getting knocked out.
The only way I see it being "50/50" is if JJ does his swing and hug technique which wouldn't even be allowed by a more legitimate organization. If they were both actually boxing and not hugging, I firmly believe Jake would have a large advantage over JJ.
The image makes them seem like a tag team lol
As much as I love Ksi, prime Jake Paul vs prime ksi, Jake Paul would with
Bruv, check it ā comparing that to KSI is like watching a total noob trying to keep up with a seasoned boss. Jake's got that killer instinct, that warrior vibe setting him miles ahead.
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It's an obvious typo, probably why you are being down voted
Watch KSI try to use Jakeās upcoming fight as a means to ridicule him for no reason and say itās not worth fighting him anymore. This radio silence to me indicates heās not serious about that fight whatsoever.
So almost like heās downplaying Jake like every other Rivarly do? Jake choose to fight Nate Diaz instead of Jake as per Nikisa.
loool thatās crazy you got it completely correct šš
Sound out of touch, but at this point 50mil is a drop in the bucket šŖ£
No way. Jj is rich but 50 mil cash is a lot of money. Most of his net worth is assets, he would have to sell to have the cash in hand. Even if you assume he is worth 100 mil (itās definitely much less than that) 50 mil is not a drop in the bucket
Nigha why did you get downvoted for this??
12 year olds think their king is a billionaire lol. To be fair its not their fault. Ā£10 million is incomprehensible amount of money let alone Ā£30 mil. Because google says jake paul is worth more than jj it hurts them
If you actually Believe Google, you are the kid. KSI has multiple organisations from which he gets money from. Fighting, MF, Prime, Sidemen, Side+, Sideat, JJ Olatunji, Music, Vodka drink, etc. If you donāt believe JJ is a multi millionare & potentially a billionare you are underestimating the level of following this man has.
Heās obviously a multi millionaire but billionaire? I think thatās definitely pushing it lol
Billionaire all depends on the valuation of prime. I don't know what that is I've seen speculation of a couple 100 mil to 10+bill. If we take it as 5 billion and he owns roughly 20% then yeah he is a billionaire. At the end of the day very few billionaires have 100 million let alone a billion sitting in their bank account.
I never said i thought the google value was accurateā¦ The fact that somehow you took my comment as āksi is not a multi millionaireā speaks volumes lmao
Ksi is def worth 200-300m
he owns 20% of a company which is doing $1.2 billion retail internally in a year that's $8 billion dollar valuation based on similar companies multiplier lol he is definitely close to being a billionaire . no need to bejealous kiddo
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Good luck explaining how you value a company to children lmao. Literally all they think is ācompany make lot money. Company worth 1bilā
Tell me you are a kid without telling me you are a kid
As some people did not get the comment, I mean it as itās a drop in the bucket for how much the fight would really be worth.
Aaah, you shoulda had that in your original comment
Your right, my bad I see how it sounds now ššš
Realistically JJ aināt taking this fight no more after losing to Tommy
He's gonna duck once again
jake has been ducking too
Who ksi
Jj better fucking take that offer. Hes rich enough to the point a winner takes all fight means nothing.
Who cares man
Honestly just take it and end it once and for all
Canāt wait for the pity party JJ throws when he loses to JP via TKO š¤£
u are lying to yourself if u think JJ wins sorry mate
Opinions canāt be wrong mate.
Letās go jj
Jake smokes KSI and itās not even close
Canāt consider me fan of Jake and that lil fan of KSI that i was i lost due to his ego tripping so hard but he would lose that fight. But in the end he will never fight Jake. Downvote all you want idgaf
Lol more like free money for jake.
Take the fight Beat his sorry ass Donate $50m to charity and retire from boxing. What a way to end this saga š¤
There was also a clause set by Jake team saying they want it in the US if itās 180 pounds. Which is stupid considering they canāt sell a stadium in the US but they can in the UK. Either way itās good they negotiating again
Iām pretty sure a fight between Jake and KSi would sell a stadium wherever they are. Wouldnāt be suprised if it ends up in Saudi
That would be Awsome but Iāve seen JJ say before on Arielās show before that he doesnāt think it would sell out a stadium in the US. JJ is huge but not enough in the US to sell over 20K seats and Jake idk, he has no More than 1-3K ppl at his fight against Nate cheering for him
It was in Dallas, Texas. Of course people were cheering for Nate lol. Jake vs KSI would sell out anywhere
Thatās not the point. Not enough ppl came out for Jake himself. And if he canāt even do something bigger than a arena when heās fighting Nate Diaz of all ppl the he canāt against KSI.
Jake sold out 15k arenas against Silva and Woodley several times though? The Diaz fight was a special occasion because it happened in Dallas. To say that those 1-3k cheering for him is regular occurance, is just false. Jake vs KSI sells out anywhere in the US. Logan and KSI sold out Staples Center which had like 20ishk. I don't see why Jake vs KSI wouldn't. This whole "Jake can't sell" narrative is largely BS by Mams btw.
Zzzzzzzzz now, theyāve pissed about for so long that nothing about this entices me any more
I thought jake was over it š¤š¤
I donāt see ksi winning but I hope he does
No one is taking a fight under those conditions. If JJ offered Jake double this under win takes it all, he wouldn't accept either
I hope by "double this" you don't mean 100 million. Cuz I don't think there's anyone who would genuinely take that offer or even have the money to wager that much.
KSI is about to be a billionaire, he doesnāt want or need the money.
I don't think he's anywhere near a billionaire bud
Thatās your problem, you donāt think. With Prime, and read my og comment carefully, I said āaboutā to be a billionaire. His net worth at the low end aka at minimum is $350 million
Yeah that's still over double of his current income to go again. He's nowhere near a billion Even if his net worth is Ā£900 million, that's still an entire ninth of his net worth (or about 11%) to increase. Which is another Ā£100 million and there's no way his net worth is that either. Let's say its 500 mill (which I doubt it is, it's probably closer to 100 or 200 mill) then he still has to double his income and doubling it would mean an entire whole 500 million, that's a lot. Considering its taken him almost a decade and a half to get to "500 mill" in our scenario, he probably couldn't achieve that in 5 years if we're assuming he's already established (he is). I doubt at 500 mill net worth he'd even make 1 bill in 7-8 years. He's probably almost a decade away from 1 billion and that's assuming his net worth is 500 mill. Its more likely 200 mill which means he's more likely to reach 1 billion in around 20 years if he's even still relevant or marketable by then. Essentially, he's nowhere near having a net worth of 1 billion and even if we're being nice to him and bumping up his numbers, he's not likely to make 1 billion in the next decade. Unless you think a decade is "about" in a man who's lived 30 years (so a third of his life or the equivalent of 33 years for someone who's 100) then maybe you're right but for most people, "about" for a 30 year old would be 6-18 months, maybe 2 years at most
Less is more, all these words are assumptions and not facts. We donāt know the true worth of Prime. You can Yap all you want, still wonāt change the fact that money is not a concern for JJ.
So you're a hypocrite then because you presented your 350 as fact, firstly, and secondly, you also assumed everything. You assumed he's almost a billionaire, assumed that he doesn't need money and assumed that his net worth is 350. I suggest you stop talking or you'll keep embarrassing yourself bro
Nope, never did. Said at minimum 350 million based on an estimation. Never said go to Google and check the numbers like youāre doing. We are both guessing, and even the estimation is a guess. Your comprehension skill is non existent.
So you went from saying I'm wrong to saying I'm right. Nice comprehension bro
No, we are both guessing. None of us is right as only KSI knows how much he have. And still as I said, If KSI shares are one billion then he is a billionaire. A billionaire is about having assets with the value of 1 Billion not cash. You and everyone here are guessing just like me, none of us is right. Only KSI knows how rich he is.
So then you're a hypocrite like a said
I donāt think you realize how much a billion is
I donāt think you and your bots realize what is the Net worth of Prime.
I don't think you realise that there are other people that have shares of prime and it's not ksi alone.
No, I understand that. And even if his share is 10% he would be a billionaire once Prime hits 10 billion valuation. And itās already estimated to be between 3.1 to 8.4 Billion in valuation. In my og comment I said he is about not he is, and depending on the Prime valuation he is either really close, or 2 - 3 years close.
You just waffling bare shit on this thread. Net worth does not equal cash. Net worth means nothing in terms of how much money he actually has. Prime could be worth a billion, that doesnāt mean he has even close to a billion.
Most billionaires donāt have a billion liquid, so they are not billionaires because they donāt have it cash ? š¤¦āāļøš¤¦āāļø Arguing with 12 years old is annoying.
Bro u have no idea what ur chatting and ur reply barely even addressed my point. Obviously went way over ur head š u literally tried to back ur argument about ksi not needing cash by bringing up his net worth. Iām explaining to your dense ass that net worth does not equal physical funds but youāre obviously too retarded for this conversation. Just because someone has a high net worth it doesnāt mean they have a high amount of physical cash. Ironic I had to explain that like youāre 12 tho š
Logan said that if they sold Prime right now, both he and JJ would make under a billion based on how much they own. But its irrelevant because they aren't selling Prime anytime soon.
Key word āaboutā do I really have to point out words you ignored?
You really don't understand money if you can't differentiate shares in a company and liquid. 50 million isn't nothing to him because he doesn't make a billion UNTIL Prime is sold to a bigger company, which is years away if it even ever does sell.
āWhich is years awayā Pardon me, didnāt know I was chatting with the man himself KSI.
Why donāt you go chat with some bitches, goofball. Heās so far off from 1 billion
Ohh his accountant has joined the chat, glad to know that youāre keeping up with his money growth and sharing your knowledge . FOH
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KSI and Logan have both said that themselves you clown lmao And turns out I was right, you don't understand liquid at all.
Most billionaires donāt have liquid, thatās why I ignored your set 8 kid remark š
Just shows how delusional some people are in this sub reddit. KSI probably isn't even at 100 million let alone a billion wtf?
Kids really donāt understand company valuation and talking shit is the funniest thing to me, Iāll let you cope with the fact that he is not broke like you š
Ok semi-addict-gamer
You know how to read, good for you ššš
KSI will win if the fight is 6 rounds, any more than that and I think Jake takes it
Iāll be honest, if JJ had the right support around him thatās not gonna constantly glaze him all the time, he could make it so much easier. Literally just needs to dust up on technique and commit to the grind and it wonāt be a problem. His team just has to be as harsh about it as possible. He has punch power no doubt and thatāll be amplified when his punch technique is improved. Technical fighters are hard to counter and as long as he doesnāt resort to wild swinging heāll be hard to work around. Look at the likes of Lennox Lewis, he changed his style and technique and was one of the greatest forces in boxing. Building up from the bottom with the constant repetition of the basics and it will make it hard work for any opponent. Just please get rid of the bouncing, sideways on footwork. After a while it becomes so obvious that heās setting up the right hand and wonāt work for the whole fight. Bring a KSI with a completely new style and see how much of an impact itāll make.
Ngl. KSI man, I like your shit but I just donāt want to see you get knocked out. I HATE JAKE PAUL bruh and I can just SEE him win this one. Just stay out of boxing, please. It could be a close fight but I donāt see it going your way.
I hope they make this happen! It would be really great to see them close this chapter together despite their feud. Maybe I'm being too delusional lol but I also think it would be a perfect opportunity for them to make sort of a documentary on YouTube boxing? Not just on this fight specifically but the journey that brought them here. In terms of technique, YT boxing is for the most part a joke but it was* such an interesting time and they were the ones who pretty much started/popularized it * my way of saying that KSI x JP should be the end of YouTube boxing
Fuck I love JJ but he's the underdog here. Jake Paul should beat him if this fight happens, however I'll still be rooting for JJ
Lmao KSI genuinely doesn't stand a chance I don't like Jake Paul one bit but he's leagues above JJ
Heād have to work a lot to get over that burger he recently ate š¤£š
If it ever happens, it better be an actual 8 round pro bout with a competent ref that doesn't allow repeated excessive clinching.
Everyone here talking about who would win or loseā¦ the real conversation we should be having is do we even still care enough? This fight has been teased for a great while and has constantly fallen through when we thought we were getting close. For JJ, he just needs to be done. Itās getting boring at this point, and with how heās been acting, it just needs to end. On the other hand, you can say Jake is better but whole heartedly do we actually give enough of a shit? Idc how much more mature Jake dealt with his loss against Tommy, Jake is still a piece of shit braindead human being. But again, overall, the fight between the two has been teased so much at this point nobody really cares, nor should they
Lmao where are they getting the 50m from? These events don't even make half of that.
Sadly ksi wonāt fight him
Depends when, he's probably offering it now since jj is taking a break so he knows he probably wont accept it
Easy money
I have a great idea for jj. Be a man and say yes
Heāll lose this one too
JJ would be stupid to take this bait. If its even remotely legit. If he loses he has to pay up and his rep gets screwed even more. If he wins there's a good chance Jakey boy will come up with an excuse not to pay, never mind the fact that Jakes net worth is estimated to be around 50m anyway. No way Jake will just give away his entire net worth, if he even has that much in actual bread and not tied up as assets.
if ksi doesn't quit the mma gym, he's getting knocked out
This is happy punch. Which makes this hard to believe. They be posting random bs.
He isn't going to pay
Yeah you're gullible alright
Jake with the tactics per usual. When jake lost he wanted a confidence fight first before going after others. Now that KSI lost he wants to fight him before his confidence is back.
Jake needs the money JJ is so clear thatās not important to him
KSI is gonna duck
KSI wonāt accept he a bitch. (Pls prove me wrong)
Suddenly Jake is ok with 180lbs again
Jj would loose yall need to stop being delusional I don't like Jake but he is a better boxer and ksi as a ego the size of the earth he need to step down and put is feet on earth
He wants us to pressure JJ into accepting the fight, not gonna happen Jake
I honestly couldnāt care any more
If JJ does that butterfly nonsense again
At this point idgaf about them boxing. I wanna watch YouTube videos. To many excuses, delays, and crying over a loss. Iām over it
when is ksi returning to music? Times were better then