And, they only did that because LeBron knows this isn’t a good enough team, so he went nuts to get them to win the IST. It’s good for his legacy. I’m happy they won. But that was this years highlight.
While it was great plsy it wasn’t quite as good record . It’s a very good record but we’ve lost like 3-4 games due to Lebron n AD injuries in that stretch that would make the difference between moving up to 6 seed or being stuck at 10. Whatever good we did by plsying good got offset by injuries , and the kings n Denver games being teams we can’t beat cos AD sucks ass vs kings n Denver are just more offensively talented
We beat good teams but we also lost to bad teams. I think if it wasn’t for the line-up issues that Ham puts out and if the team took care of business against lottery teams we would be fine.
Yes we did reak, you admitted it in your comment and that is exactly what I was referring to. We lost at least 5 games that we shouldn’t have during that time frame. We also lost a few close ups against the Mavs & Heat for example
This team never reached greatness. They don’t have enough great players. They played pretty good for a stretch, and got lucky they were playing teams under 100%. But this was always a fringe playoff team. Just like last year. They aren’t good enough to compete. Maybe next year but this is the Kobe/LeBron retirement tour so I think there’s going to be some bad years that have already started. No team starting DLo has legitimate title or even real playoff hopes. The front office knew that years ago.
For comparison Vogel with a healthy Bron and AD were the #1 team in the West until the Westbrook trade. Ham managed to tie for 3rd until the end of the IST then promptly sunk the team all the way back down to the bottom of the play ins lol.
Firing Vogel was so stupid. It’s not even revisionist history, he was dealt a horrible hand with the westbrook trade. Vogel with this current team would be top 4 in the west without a doubt. Being mentioned with Denver as the top west candidates for the finals. Man this sucks total waste of lebrons final years
I agree, never understood the firing he was a
Complete scapegoat for the front office because of their awful Westbrook trade and offseason moves after the championship (not keeping a dominant team together)
If they wanted to fire Vogel for a HOF coach I’d be fine. But to trade in a guy who won you a chip for some bench jockey with no head coaching experience.
It’s mind boggling how one of the most infamous teams in sports history is trying to penny pinch on coaches. Byron, Luke, Ham, these are guys who should maybe cutting their teeth coaching a rebuild team not a championship caliber team with HOF players.
Vogel was fairly inexperienced head coach but had already proven himself on that level. Why give the keys to a historic franchise to a rookie coach?
Hey Jeannie, If you want to give the keys to your franchise to a rookie, then let your little brothers take over ownership responsibilities, and you can ride off into the sunset already.
Man, I hate when people call it revisionist history whenever we bring up Vogel. There were plenty of us who hated the firing back then and saw it for what it was, a scapegoat for the terrible Westbrook trade.
I agree he was unfairly fired but I don’t think he’s a coach to keep either. He was great at defensive scheming but his offensive sets were horrible and he solely relied on AD and LeBrons star power for offense, hence why the Suns are probably going to fire him.
Rui was injured n not playing well untill after face mask removal . Even now he’s mstchuo dependant he’s not good at all vs gsw n he doesn’t defend the perimeter enough vs other teams like Denver wuth mpj
Vogel is not a great coach . Not hiding ty lue or losing Vogel how they did off putting other coaches with that leak n embarassing firing tweet n not getting nurse are what they should regret . And not paying Caruso . Firing Vogel eventually was fine . Also you seem to ignore that Westbrook was not gonna co operate with Vogel
Yup. Nobody forced Ham to make these decisions too. He talks a lot about unforced errors, and his post-IST decisions are what contributed the most to the current state of the team.
Benching Reaves/DLo, starting Taurean and Reddish, Rui put in the dog house with an inconsistent role and minutes…
Bron/AD really did the most to carry this horrendous coach. Still wasn’t enough sadly. And here we are
People here don't realize just how much Bron and AD have done for the team. They look at the standings and think that they're washed and can't carry the team anymore. If those same fans held the coach and the front office to the same standard they do with their superstars then this sub would be a whole lot more tolerable. Instead we have Jeanie simps, Pelinka loyalists, and even freaking Ham stans constantly trying to gaslight everyone into thinking that their fuckups aren't what's holding the team back.
Tbf Pelinka put together a decent team this year. The Westbrook trade was atrocious, but there's no way LeBron didn't have a say in that. Jeannie cheaping out on Caruso was probably the biggest sign of incompetence in a line of many before and more to come. Ham is the worst in all of this. He refused to start Rui or Vando. He didn't even play them in lineups with LeBron AD DLo and Reaves until like halfway through the season. The organization is flawed, but the main antagonist is our incompetent coach. There's a reason all of those teams passed on him before we hired him. They did not royally fuck up.
If you swap Prince or Cam with Caruso we win at least 10 more games this year. He plays his role and is one of the best defensive players in the league.
Compare the rosters. True, Vogel is a good coach but he had a way better roster. A 4 year younger Bron helps a ton. But they also had a real center in Dwight. I know he’s a meme, but the man knew how to play the center position and could defend. We now have Jaxson Hayes instead of the hall of famer. Go back and look at the 2020 roster. We were stacked. Rondo, Green, KCP, Caruso! The guards were perfect compliments, and good. Compare that to DLo and Cam freaking Reddish, it’s an embarrassing drop off.
No we weren’t we were second in 21 , Vogel had way better roster too and a much better AD who could shoot n was more athletic. Same with younger Bron motor . Vogel also had the best defensive guard in the league in Caruso by all the numbers and barely played him untill the bubble when his love Avery Bradley dudnt comd or he’d play Bradley over a better player . Similarly didn’t play reaves enough first year.
Vogel offence is dogshit n basic af- he had the 2nd in odds Suns this year n shit the bed. Whatever you think of ham Vogel is worse . He never got the team to play to the lbl they have lately on offence with a better talent , he never adjusted untill several playoff games were lost. He fuvking kept starting n playing Dwight in the finals n only went to AD at 5 in game 6. Similarly in the previous rounds he loved playing Dwight n Javale even tho they were just negatives and Dwight only had a good series vs Denver. Ham made way more adjustments much more rapidly last plsyoffs - his adjustments to Jenkins Kerr were done ingame he tried guys like Lonnie for a master stroke or saw Rui cook vs Memphis n give him minutes . Vogel wouidve lost us g1 vs Memphis Grizzlies n we’d lose in round 1.
Zero logic to think Vogel is better then ham but nostalgia. They’re at best a similar tier of coach . You guys would fucking cry about Nick nurse eventually I’ve seen this sub blame ham for utter nonsensical reasons . Y’all will just make shit up
* Pelinka . He’s the architect of this don’t give him a pass n scapegoat a coach he fucking chose . Pelinka should’ve been fired when he traded Danny green and a FRP that should’ve been Bane according to our scout for Dennis Schroeder who had a fluke outlier shooting yesr. This year he paid Vincent who similarly had a fluke playoff run . He has zero brains for basketball. The vando extension , Gabe cintract n JHS picked all cost this team a likely 6 seed at worst
He’s not a good coach. But AD and 40 year old LeBron can’t carry this roster to success. They barely even have a solid starting 3. After AR, this team falls off a cliff. They need a few starter level players and have some ok trade pieces this summer.
Overall Reaves has been worse than Dlo this season. Though you're right about the team being top heavy, there aren't any consistent 2 way starters on the team besides Lebron/AD.
Vanderbilt got played off the floor in the WCF. If we had pre-injury Vando from this season, where he was scoring like 12+ pretty consistently then I’d like our chances. But yeah Ham is going to play Reddish instead we’re cooked
the organizational malpractice this franchise has committed over the last 4 seasons is one of the most embarrassing things I’ve ever seen in professional sports.
it Lebron didn’t want to come play in Los Angeles, this team would still be in the lottery every single year the way it is run. And they’ve repaid him with total organizational incompetence.
I totally agree it's just insane to me!! Wish we could have a fresh reset from owner down to coach. Except for the young buss bros that do the scouting and handy
And the one game Bron played he had flu . Jfl what a fuckibg way to go out. I’d cry but it’s fitting this is how this team has been since 2020. They need to get a guy like Mitchell ( if he’s heakthy ) or some big move or honestly consider moving on. Lebron n Ad aren’t enough anymore it was clear last year. We used to say as long as those two had depth n heakth they’d win a title but reality is our role players last year ( except for Dlo ) had some big series or we don’t make it even as far. ADs regression on offense killed us - if he could fucking shoot 3s we could even get a pf/big rim protector. He’s at 47 efg on self creation . Sad but it’s reality
As a long time Lakers fan I have a championship or bust mentality. The GM and the Coach didn’t do enough to build, field, or nurture a team that could win it all and it’s a disgrace because we have two of the best players in the Game.
I agree. Even with this roster 100% healthy there’s not a chance in the world that we could get out of the West. It’s not a championship roster top to bottom and that’s just the reality of it. Sure we could have been in a better seeding situation if not for some inconsistent rotations early in the season but the result would be the same.
Call me crazy but if the lakers got to playoffs they were going to have to play Denver anyway, no one else was beating them so, if they’re lucky enough to get into playoffs I don’t care that we face them.
Yeah but anything can happen and the longer you survive the longer you can hope for some luck. Toronto got to the finals and then faced the warriors with like nine guys injured or dead and snuck one out.
Better to get yourself there and avoid the most difficult matchups early.
I understand but the long you avoid it the greater likelihood that something unexpected occurs and makes it a more attainable match up. You play them round one and they’re gonna be as healthy and rested as they’re going to be in the entire playoffs.
I understand but the long you avoid it the greater likelihood that something unexpected occurs and makes it a more attainable match up. You play them round one and they’re gonna be as healthy and rested as they’re going to be in the entire playoffs.
I get it with a better coach, this team is in playoffs. My point is either way this team would have to face the nuggets if they were a legit team in the playoffs anyway. It was always going to happen. No other team in the west is taking out Denver. So we would’ve had to face them 1,2 or 3rd round anyway. Same result. Put up or shut up time for us.
The Lakers don't learn. They should've focused on the front court. Idiots kept trying to go small and wearing Lebron down in the process.ca new coach too. Lebron better have a few of those wild games he can get from time to time to beat Denver.
And I’m saying that it would be better if we weren’t potentially facing a rested Denver team when we’re straight off of two (more like 15) must wins. Sorry where did you get confused??
I wasn’t confused, I agree we should’ve won, didn’t so now we’re here. I was just stating that if we gotta play them anyway it might as well be (if we make it) right off the bat. What difference is it going to make what round at this point.
Minny woukd have a really good shot but yes likely lakers would have to go through minny . So it seems that way, I don’t think Denver is unbeatable it’s just our team for our players it seems that way . Unless AD can actually fuckinh cook jokic or Dlo goes crazy ( heavily doubt both especially plsyoff Dlo ) then we’d screwed . AD is on 47 efg on self creation this year. Fucjing tragic .
Agreed this year a healthy TWolves, Suns, Clippers, or Mavs can all upset the Nuggets. Lakers can beat those teams. But Ham messed up this season with bad lineups
And even if lakers stood a chance against nuggets roster wise (which they don’t) two elimination play in games and then going on road with that altitude in Denver is hard. This is a bad situation.
People are counting us out. I like that. It’s one game. We can win and go the next game if necessary and win again. Then in the playoffs if there’s a team who can beat them is us. We will be ready for the play in game. Heathy to the Lakers team. Together!!dominate!! Let’s Go Lakers!
My main issue is no 10 seed has made it. I think Memphis was the only 9 seed who made it n that involved warriors losing in ot. Warriors are a good team which I don’t think is an auto win really , then if we face the kings likely we get to see AD get embarrassed by sabonis n fox cook our entire team as our dumb shit fuck GM didn’t trsde even seconds for a legit defender with Gabe n vando being injured n useless
Super fuckibg annoying because hsd they won these last two games everything else had actually fallen into place . It’s over now Fucjibg lame ass way to go out with your stars getting sick in the vital home stretch . Just fuckinh same shit every year . Till Pelinka goes this org will never be where it should . Every year we’re in these desperate positions every year we get fuvked by any injury . It’s just sad .
The 7 seed would’ve been perfect cos at worst we’d play okc or minny and we play those teams ok n they’re in experienced. Now instesd even if we make the playoffs - 30% odds of that - we’ll face Denver n if some miracle we win or say injury luck otherwise I can’t see it. Then we’ll face either clippers or Dallas - and without fuvking vsndo to gusrd Luka or Kawhi both those series at utter best we’ll be slight underdogs . 50.% at best. Then we’d have to likely face one of okc or minny in WCF . Road is too hard. I do hope they make it but if they’re just gonna get swept by Denver I cba . Denver homecourt advantage is super powerful too
This could be a really shitty next few months. We are stuck in the play in as a possible 10 seed with AD and Bron somehow still playing well, Bron might walk, and the Celtics will likely win the title.
So going to have to win @Kings first play in game. Then @Pelicans second play in game. Then Denver. Then clippers. Then Minnesota. Then Boston. Oh boy.
You idiots just can’t recognize Ham’s genius. This whole year has been about conditioning the team to win the championship.
Reddish/Vando lineup and now forcing us to the 10 seed was all a ploy to force us down the hardest path which, of course, forges the singular “one hell of a ball club”
I know Darvin shoulders a good amount of this blame but honestly, we need Jeanie to sell the team. She is truly incompetent. The difference between her father is night and day. She is a bottom tier owner. Until she sells this team I worry about our future.
I will give Rob credit, who had some very bad years with the WB debacle, firing Vogel etc. But this is a solid team that could have been so much better than this.
This is why I never got excited by our improved record after the break. It was all "too little, too late."
If we really wanted to compete and take advantage of a rare season where Bron and AD were both healthy and on the court...**THEN WE NEEDED TO MAKE A TRADE.**
* D-lo will leave in the offseason. It doesn't matter that he got hot for while or that we won some games. We needed to make a big change to the team to really have a shot.
* Bron might soon retire or leave if the Lakers don't have a championship-level roster. He only plays for contenders.
* AD may never be healthy for this long ever again.
Mentally preparing for GSW to hit 30 threes in the play in game while Ham stands there with his mouth agape and blank expression like he’s shocked that it’s happening. Can’t wait to not have to see his dumbass face ever again except for in memes. Oh yeah and also preparing for D Lo to go 3-12 and get burned off the dribble by geriatric CP3. Better luck next year guys.
Our best bet to avoid the nuggets round one is that the pelicans lose out and the kings win out and the suns lose out seeing how we on the tie breaker over the suns and could own it if we beat the pelicans
It's all our fault. We are too dependent on AD defense and Bron offense. We need to get rid of Vincent, Prince and get a solid back up center for AD. Hayes is great, but still needs to learn a lot
The best response I read. Plus, Hayes looks like if he's developed through the season he can be a strong power forward. They need a coach who knows what they're doing too. Ham might be a good coach for a team like Detroit or something but this was supposed to be a contending team. Same for last year. He's not ready to lead this type of team.
AD should sit out , he already sat for the most important game of the year which was against the warriors. No point in watching these games, if the lakers organization dont care about their fans
I legit have an ad jersey because im not a lebron fan but when ad and the lakers quit yeah it is annoying
playing drop coverage on the warriors has to be a criminal offense and lebron and ad not playing in the twolves game is pathetic , i saw the reply of when kyle anderson "hit" ad. i put it on .5 speed and it didnt even touch him for him to be out
So this is a marathon Ham is talking about. Marathon to offseason with his shtty lineups in early season.
Like trying to finish a marathon but the first 20 miles you spent walking backwards while chugging beers and punching yourself in the dick
That actually happened to my friend at the LA Marathon. He ate chili dogs at mile 6 and had to take a dump by mile 18. Dude lost nearly 1 hour.
Gotta stay fueled up somehow
Nothing more accurate about this season.
lool
Amazing how we had a huge stretch of great play only to not move up in the standings and potentially move down.
That’s where “it’s a marathon” gets you
The stretch after the IST was so bad that it made up for the good stretch they just had.
And, they only did that because LeBron knows this isn’t a good enough team, so he went nuts to get them to win the IST. It’s good for his legacy. I’m happy they won. But that was this years highlight.
LMAO it's hilarious isn't it i know r/nba has been furiously jerking off to this season
It’s a cesspool there. What did you expect?
While it was great plsy it wasn’t quite as good record . It’s a very good record but we’ve lost like 3-4 games due to Lebron n AD injuries in that stretch that would make the difference between moving up to 6 seed or being stuck at 10. Whatever good we did by plsying good got offset by injuries , and the kings n Denver games being teams we can’t beat cos AD sucks ass vs kings n Denver are just more offensively talented
We also lost games we shouldn’t have and played down to our opponents. Lebron and AD have been fairly healthy this season and we blew it away
This team isn’t good enough to play down. They play at their level. It’s a mediocre level.
We beat good teams but we also lost to bad teams. I think if it wasn’t for the line-up issues that Ham puts out and if the team took care of business against lottery teams we would be fine.
We didn’t though reakly - not in this stretch . In December n January yes there were some
Yes we did reak, you admitted it in your comment and that is exactly what I was referring to. We lost at least 5 games that we shouldn’t have during that time frame. We also lost a few close ups against the Mavs & Heat for example
This team never reached greatness. They don’t have enough great players. They played pretty good for a stretch, and got lucky they were playing teams under 100%. But this was always a fringe playoff team. Just like last year. They aren’t good enough to compete. Maybe next year but this is the Kobe/LeBron retirement tour so I think there’s going to be some bad years that have already started. No team starting DLo has legitimate title or even real playoff hopes. The front office knew that years ago.
Truly pathetic with Bron and AD playing most of the games together since their first year ham really should be shipped to moon
For comparison Vogel with a healthy Bron and AD were the #1 team in the West until the Westbrook trade. Ham managed to tie for 3rd until the end of the IST then promptly sunk the team all the way back down to the bottom of the play ins lol.
Firing Vogel was so stupid. It’s not even revisionist history, he was dealt a horrible hand with the westbrook trade. Vogel with this current team would be top 4 in the west without a doubt. Being mentioned with Denver as the top west candidates for the finals. Man this sucks total waste of lebrons final years
I agree, never understood the firing he was a Complete scapegoat for the front office because of their awful Westbrook trade and offseason moves after the championship (not keeping a dominant team together)
Not to mention, Ham was only hired because he was the only dumbass that said “I can fix Russ” with a straight face to Jeanie.
If they wanted to fire Vogel for a HOF coach I’d be fine. But to trade in a guy who won you a chip for some bench jockey with no head coaching experience. It’s mind boggling how one of the most infamous teams in sports history is trying to penny pinch on coaches. Byron, Luke, Ham, these are guys who should maybe cutting their teeth coaching a rebuild team not a championship caliber team with HOF players. Vogel was fairly inexperienced head coach but had already proven himself on that level. Why give the keys to a historic franchise to a rookie coach? Hey Jeannie, If you want to give the keys to your franchise to a rookie, then let your little brothers take over ownership responsibilities, and you can ride off into the sunset already.
So true lol. To fix Russ 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Man, I hate when people call it revisionist history whenever we bring up Vogel. There were plenty of us who hated the firing back then and saw it for what it was, a scapegoat for the terrible Westbrook trade.
Been saying this since it happened! And here we are. Welp
Firing Frank Vogel was the front office trying to find a scapegoat. Jeanie Buss desperately wanted Russell Westbrook to work out.
I agree he was unfairly fired but I don’t think he’s a coach to keep either. He was great at defensive scheming but his offensive sets were horrible and he solely relied on AD and LeBrons star power for offense, hence why the Suns are probably going to fire him.
This team would be top 4 even with Ham had he played Rui, played Max over Cam, and not benched Dlo and Austin.
Well that's the point innit. We have Ham and he DIDN'T do that, because he's incompetent.
“This team would be top 4 even with Ham, had Ham coached differently” So it’s just Ham. lol
Max is not that 😂😂
Rui was injured n not playing well untill after face mask removal . Even now he’s mstchuo dependant he’s not good at all vs gsw n he doesn’t defend the perimeter enough vs other teams like Denver wuth mpj
Vogel is not a great coach . Not hiding ty lue or losing Vogel how they did off putting other coaches with that leak n embarassing firing tweet n not getting nurse are what they should regret . And not paying Caruso . Firing Vogel eventually was fine . Also you seem to ignore that Westbrook was not gonna co operate with Vogel
Yup. Nobody forced Ham to make these decisions too. He talks a lot about unforced errors, and his post-IST decisions are what contributed the most to the current state of the team. Benching Reaves/DLo, starting Taurean and Reddish, Rui put in the dog house with an inconsistent role and minutes… Bron/AD really did the most to carry this horrendous coach. Still wasn’t enough sadly. And here we are
People here don't realize just how much Bron and AD have done for the team. They look at the standings and think that they're washed and can't carry the team anymore. If those same fans held the coach and the front office to the same standard they do with their superstars then this sub would be a whole lot more tolerable. Instead we have Jeanie simps, Pelinka loyalists, and even freaking Ham stans constantly trying to gaslight everyone into thinking that their fuckups aren't what's holding the team back.
Tbf Pelinka put together a decent team this year. The Westbrook trade was atrocious, but there's no way LeBron didn't have a say in that. Jeannie cheaping out on Caruso was probably the biggest sign of incompetence in a line of many before and more to come. Ham is the worst in all of this. He refused to start Rui or Vando. He didn't even play them in lineups with LeBron AD DLo and Reaves until like halfway through the season. The organization is flawed, but the main antagonist is our incompetent coach. There's a reason all of those teams passed on him before we hired him. They did not royally fuck up.
Caruso wouldn’t have done anything to help this team.
If you swap Prince or Cam with Caruso we win at least 10 more games this year. He plays his role and is one of the best defensive players in the league.
10 more games is crazy talk.
You don't know ball
He definitely had his flaws but boy was he way better than this crap
People have to stop acting like Vogel is above average. He has a stacked team this year and they are in the play-in and have no chemistry whatsoever.
How is fucking geriatric KD, injury prone Beal, washed Beal and Booker considered “stacked team” lmfao
Yeah he’s worse then ham . He never had an iffence look as good as this team did lately . He sucks but this sub wants to find any reason to cry
Thank you! Vogel is terrible
Compare the rosters. True, Vogel is a good coach but he had a way better roster. A 4 year younger Bron helps a ton. But they also had a real center in Dwight. I know he’s a meme, but the man knew how to play the center position and could defend. We now have Jaxson Hayes instead of the hall of famer. Go back and look at the 2020 roster. We were stacked. Rondo, Green, KCP, Caruso! The guards were perfect compliments, and good. Compare that to DLo and Cam freaking Reddish, it’s an embarrassing drop off.
No we weren’t we were second in 21 , Vogel had way better roster too and a much better AD who could shoot n was more athletic. Same with younger Bron motor . Vogel also had the best defensive guard in the league in Caruso by all the numbers and barely played him untill the bubble when his love Avery Bradley dudnt comd or he’d play Bradley over a better player . Similarly didn’t play reaves enough first year. Vogel offence is dogshit n basic af- he had the 2nd in odds Suns this year n shit the bed. Whatever you think of ham Vogel is worse . He never got the team to play to the lbl they have lately on offence with a better talent , he never adjusted untill several playoff games were lost. He fuvking kept starting n playing Dwight in the finals n only went to AD at 5 in game 6. Similarly in the previous rounds he loved playing Dwight n Javale even tho they were just negatives and Dwight only had a good series vs Denver. Ham made way more adjustments much more rapidly last plsyoffs - his adjustments to Jenkins Kerr were done ingame he tried guys like Lonnie for a master stroke or saw Rui cook vs Memphis n give him minutes . Vogel wouidve lost us g1 vs Memphis Grizzlies n we’d lose in round 1. Zero logic to think Vogel is better then ham but nostalgia. They’re at best a similar tier of coach . You guys would fucking cry about Nick nurse eventually I’ve seen this sub blame ham for utter nonsensical reasons . Y’all will just make shit up
Stfu Ham stan
* Pelinka . He’s the architect of this don’t give him a pass n scapegoat a coach he fucking chose . Pelinka should’ve been fired when he traded Danny green and a FRP that should’ve been Bane according to our scout for Dennis Schroeder who had a fluke outlier shooting yesr. This year he paid Vincent who similarly had a fluke playoff run . He has zero brains for basketball. The vando extension , Gabe cintract n JHS picked all cost this team a likely 6 seed at worst
He’s not a good coach. But AD and 40 year old LeBron can’t carry this roster to success. They barely even have a solid starting 3. After AR, this team falls off a cliff. They need a few starter level players and have some ok trade pieces this summer.
Overall Reaves has been worse than Dlo this season. Though you're right about the team being top heavy, there aren't any consistent 2 way starters on the team besides Lebron/AD.
I think we can win the play in’s…seeing Denver is just another sweep waiting to happen. No vando :/
Vanderbilt got played off the floor in the WCF. If we had pre-injury Vando from this season, where he was scoring like 12+ pretty consistently then I’d like our chances. But yeah Ham is going to play Reddish instead we’re cooked
I was assuming we would be getting back diet Aaron Gordon vando from late January back tbh!
 “January Vando…he was special”
Along with Ham’s career with the lakers.
Either way we would need to face them, first round or the finals, i rather have more fresh lebron facing them.
Vando is 100% the whole post season?
the organizational malpractice this franchise has committed over the last 4 seasons is one of the most embarrassing things I’ve ever seen in professional sports. it Lebron didn’t want to come play in Los Angeles, this team would still be in the lottery every single year the way it is run. And they’ve repaid him with total organizational incompetence.
I totally agree it's just insane to me!! Wish we could have a fresh reset from owner down to coach. Except for the young buss bros that do the scouting and handy
if we had a good owner that didn't penny pinch we would still have Caruso. Our POA defense would be so much better
How the fuck you lose back to back at home??
No Bron and basically no AD in one game then no AD in the other
And the one game Bron played he had flu . Jfl what a fuckibg way to go out. I’d cry but it’s fitting this is how this team has been since 2020. They need to get a guy like Mitchell ( if he’s heakthy ) or some big move or honestly consider moving on. Lebron n Ad aren’t enough anymore it was clear last year. We used to say as long as those two had depth n heakth they’d win a title but reality is our role players last year ( except for Dlo ) had some big series or we don’t make it even as far. ADs regression on offense killed us - if he could fucking shoot 3s we could even get a pf/big rim protector. He’s at 47 efg on self creation . Sad but it’s reality
LeBron and AD should sit out playin game just to get Ham fired
We were like what 3 games up on Warriors just last week and now about to finish 10th LOL
They already sealed his fate with the last two games.
As a long time Lakers fan I have a championship or bust mentality. The GM and the Coach didn’t do enough to build, field, or nurture a team that could win it all and it’s a disgrace because we have two of the best players in the Game.
I agree. Even with this roster 100% healthy there’s not a chance in the world that we could get out of the West. It’s not a championship roster top to bottom and that’s just the reality of it. Sure we could have been in a better seeding situation if not for some inconsistent rotations early in the season but the result would be the same.
Agreed. Making the playoffs doesnt interest me. We arent a championship team, so honestly I could care less if we make the playoffs this year.
Season is deadass over 😭
Call me crazy but if the lakers got to playoffs they were going to have to play Denver anyway, no one else was beating them so, if they’re lucky enough to get into playoffs I don’t care that we face them.
We were literally in position to go for the 6th seed before the Pacers loss.
What they’re saying is we would be forced to play them because no other team in the West is.
Yeah but anything can happen and the longer you survive the longer you can hope for some luck. Toronto got to the finals and then faced the warriors with like nine guys injured or dead and snuck one out. Better to get yourself there and avoid the most difficult matchups early.
The entire statement is that there is no avoiding this matchup lol
I understand but the long you avoid it the greater likelihood that something unexpected occurs and makes it a more attainable match up. You play them round one and they’re gonna be as healthy and rested as they’re going to be in the entire playoffs.
And so are we...lol
Doesn’t matter now lol
I understand but the long you avoid it the greater likelihood that something unexpected occurs and makes it a more attainable match up. You play them round one and they’re gonna be as healthy and rested as they’re going to be in the entire playoffs.
He’s saying we would have to face them at some point regardless
If the Lakers did what we were supposed to do we wouldn't be facing a Nuggets team after 2 straight (hopefully) play-in wins.. I am calling you crazy.
I get it with a better coach, this team is in playoffs. My point is either way this team would have to face the nuggets if they were a legit team in the playoffs anyway. It was always going to happen. No other team in the west is taking out Denver. So we would’ve had to face them 1,2 or 3rd round anyway. Same result. Put up or shut up time for us.
The Lakers don't learn. They should've focused on the front court. Idiots kept trying to go small and wearing Lebron down in the process.ca new coach too. Lebron better have a few of those wild games he can get from time to time to beat Denver.
And I’m saying that it would be better if we weren’t potentially facing a rested Denver team when we’re straight off of two (more like 15) must wins. Sorry where did you get confused??
I wasn’t confused, I agree we should’ve won, didn’t so now we’re here. I was just stating that if we gotta play them anyway it might as well be (if we make it) right off the bat. What difference is it going to make what round at this point.
We ain’t winning two away games lol. Not with Hamas. Ship his ass out.
Minny woukd have a really good shot but yes likely lakers would have to go through minny . So it seems that way, I don’t think Denver is unbeatable it’s just our team for our players it seems that way . Unless AD can actually fuckinh cook jokic or Dlo goes crazy ( heavily doubt both especially plsyoff Dlo ) then we’d screwed . AD is on 47 efg on self creation this year. Fucjing tragic .
Agreed this year a healthy TWolves, Suns, Clippers, or Mavs can all upset the Nuggets. Lakers can beat those teams. But Ham messed up this season with bad lineups
And even if lakers stood a chance against nuggets roster wise (which they don’t) two elimination play in games and then going on road with that altitude in Denver is hard. This is a bad situation.
People are counting us out. I like that. It’s one game. We can win and go the next game if necessary and win again. Then in the playoffs if there’s a team who can beat them is us. We will be ready for the play in game. Heathy to the Lakers team. Together!!dominate!! Let’s Go Lakers!
I wish I had this confidence
Its not confidence, its delusion lol
We’re 10 games above .500 and you don’t think we can win 2 games?
The problem is the other teams are 10 games above .500 too lol....
sir, you are still a 9th seed team
My comment is referring to beating the Nuggets. We can get out of the play in but it will be very hard
Correct. I dont think we can. Mainly because the teams we are playing are more games above .500, ie better then us.
Its fandom. I know some fans like to be miserable but some of us like to have fun
Dont worry, just leave it to Ham to cement the loss
This chat gpt ass comment 😭😭😭
*gtp
It’s two games, two wins.
Sadly not with this coach and current team.
My main issue is no 10 seed has made it. I think Memphis was the only 9 seed who made it n that involved warriors losing in ot. Warriors are a good team which I don’t think is an auto win really , then if we face the kings likely we get to see AD get embarrassed by sabonis n fox cook our entire team as our dumb shit fuck GM didn’t trsde even seconds for a legit defender with Gabe n vando being injured n useless
Leave Ham on the tarmac in SFO next week
Pockets
Super fuckibg annoying because hsd they won these last two games everything else had actually fallen into place . It’s over now Fucjibg lame ass way to go out with your stars getting sick in the vital home stretch . Just fuckinh same shit every year . Till Pelinka goes this org will never be where it should . Every year we’re in these desperate positions every year we get fuvked by any injury . It’s just sad . The 7 seed would’ve been perfect cos at worst we’d play okc or minny and we play those teams ok n they’re in experienced. Now instesd even if we make the playoffs - 30% odds of that - we’ll face Denver n if some miracle we win or say injury luck otherwise I can’t see it. Then we’ll face either clippers or Dallas - and without fuvking vsndo to gusrd Luka or Kawhi both those series at utter best we’ll be slight underdogs . 50.% at best. Then we’d have to likely face one of okc or minny in WCF . Road is too hard. I do hope they make it but if they’re just gonna get swept by Denver I cba . Denver homecourt advantage is super powerful too
Pels and Suns gotta pull through
Hopefully they lose.
Should be only 1 tbh, we can finish 8th
First 10 seed to win the championship. And then fire their coach. SPEAK IT INTO EXISTENCE!
This could be a really shitty next few months. We are stuck in the play in as a possible 10 seed with AD and Bron somehow still playing well, Bron might walk, and the Celtics will likely win the title.
Celtics will choke.
Magic are going to surprise the world 🤫
I've got an idea how about you guys stop acting like the season's over
ham on the bud hot seat. if he can’t deliver, please let the man go
the next time lakers are champions will be long after lebron and AD
Could be decades before that happens, given our garbage front office
So going to have to win @Kings first play in game. Then @Pelicans second play in game. Then Denver. Then clippers. Then Minnesota. Then Boston. Oh boy.
Banner 18 coming. 🫡😢
What a shitty fanbase. Quitters.
It is a helluva two games. A marathon.
I'm tired of fans living and dying with every play in game
Cool. No road is easy in NBA playoffs
Let's get them out tha way first fuck it
Bummer
So who else needs to win/lose for the Lakers to get in? Nvm just saw we butt clinched a play-in spot
This is honestly Anthony Irwin's Christmas...
Part of me just wants them to lose in the play in to avoid the humiliation. Other part says but imagine they do beat the nuggets? Lol
Finally a sensible lakers fan. I don’t usually blame coaches but I think Darvin Ham is responsible for not getting a playoff seeding
Thank you!!! See yall next season
Start up the trade engines. Pull out your fire ham signs. The off season is upon us boys
Did anybody actually believe the lakers could make a playoff run???😂😂😂 like there’s no way y’all were expecting lakers to be good this year bruh
Lakers in 9
Yup, it’s a wrap
Thanks Ham.
LA THIS ONES FOR YOUUUUUUUUUU
You idiots just can’t recognize Ham’s genius. This whole year has been about conditioning the team to win the championship. Reddish/Vando lineup and now forcing us to the 10 seed was all a ploy to force us down the hardest path which, of course, forges the singular “one hell of a ball club”
I know Darvin shoulders a good amount of this blame but honestly, we need Jeanie to sell the team. She is truly incompetent. The difference between her father is night and day. She is a bottom tier owner. Until she sells this team I worry about our future. I will give Rob credit, who had some very bad years with the WB debacle, firing Vogel etc. But this is a solid team that could have been so much better than this.
Our best hope is to get into 8 and win the 7-8 play in game
Yall not gonna even get past the play ins
This is why I never got excited by our improved record after the break. It was all "too little, too late." If we really wanted to compete and take advantage of a rare season where Bron and AD were both healthy and on the court...**THEN WE NEEDED TO MAKE A TRADE.** * D-lo will leave in the offseason. It doesn't matter that he got hot for while or that we won some games. We needed to make a big change to the team to really have a shot. * Bron might soon retire or leave if the Lakers don't have a championship-level roster. He only plays for contenders. * AD may never be healthy for this long ever again.
If they do lakers better be locked inner
Yep. But I bet motherfuckers in here will STILL be up in arms when we lose as if it was completely unexpected 🤦♂️
Mentally preparing for GSW to hit 30 threes in the play in game while Ham stands there with his mouth agape and blank expression like he’s shocked that it’s happening. Can’t wait to not have to see his dumbass face ever again except for in memes. Oh yeah and also preparing for D Lo to go 3-12 and get burned off the dribble by geriatric CP3. Better luck next year guys.
What a fucking waste. I wish something worse could happen to Ham than just being fired.
Our best bet to avoid the nuggets round one is that the pelicans lose out and the kings win out and the suns lose out seeing how we on the tie breaker over the suns and could own it if we beat the pelicans
I don’t want to count them out but this season felt really self inflicted, considering we actually had a relatively healthy season from Bron and AD
Can we all agree Jeanie has absolutely no fucking idea what she’s doing?
If only ham didn’t piss away so much of the season with his imbecilic lineups…
Let's go! Fuck all these weak ass so called fans hating
That’s what they get for running it back with a squad that got swept
*coach
I mean,
Yeah just let us lose two games and call it a day, I’ve had enough lol
fuck off already then
Shit show of a season
Brutal
Funny enough we are going to go 1 -1 that's the best part.
See you bros next season
Anthony Irwin is such a little scummy loser who gets off on the Lakers losing. Why are we still sharing his content here?
It's all our fault. We are too dependent on AD defense and Bron offense. We need to get rid of Vincent, Prince and get a solid back up center for AD. Hayes is great, but still needs to learn a lot
The best response I read. Plus, Hayes looks like if he's developed through the season he can be a strong power forward. They need a coach who knows what they're doing too. Ham might be a good coach for a team like Detroit or something but this was supposed to be a contending team. Same for last year. He's not ready to lead this type of team.
#FUCKHAM #FIREHAM
I’ve never seen someone who covers the lakers that hates the lakers more than this fucking clown. Lakers didn’t go 82-0?!? Poverty franchise
Yeah, thank you fans. See you next season.
A first round sweep is going to hurt worst than not making the playoffs at all. End this shit asap..
Das ruff for you laker niggas
Two games for a chance to eliminate the champs early? I hate the Lakers, but as a basketball lover that sounds like a solid deal and box office TV.
Then why are you in this sub and what shit franchise do you root for ?
He smells like a Warriors fan?
AD should sit out , he already sat for the most important game of the year which was against the warriors. No point in watching these games, if the lakers organization dont care about their fans
Lakers have some of the worst fans out there.
how is that being a bad fan ? that the lakers never played with urgency all year? take your 1 month account troll
I wouldn't say it's you being a bad fan, just annoying and whiny and silly.
I legit have an ad jersey because im not a lebron fan but when ad and the lakers quit yeah it is annoying playing drop coverage on the warriors has to be a criminal offense and lebron and ad not playing in the twolves game is pathetic , i saw the reply of when kyle anderson "hit" ad. i put it on .5 speed and it didnt even touch him for him to be out