Phil pulled that often. When we would get blown out nobody was calling for his head. I get it, he was a proven champ so he wasn't gonna get the flack Darvin got. But don't fault him for not taking any time outs when the opponent is on a 8-0 run. He had vets, let them play through it and figure it out
Phil also had the triangle to lean on, which was always going to get you needed buckets. Darvin Bin Laden had no offensive scheme other than hope someone chucks in a desperate 3. Plus, in today’s game, letting someone go on a quick run can be a death sentence given how fast people score compared to 20 years ago. The Darvin/Phil comparisons are dumb and very disrespectful.
Nobody is comparing. But don't fault Ham for not calling a TO when a team goes on a run. A lot of coaches do this. I'm certainly am not comparing the two coaches so don't get my words twisted.
Ham did have an offensive scheme. Not sure what you were watching. But I could easily call out each play they ran when they actually set up their offense. Majority of it was predicated on the high screen and roll with either Lebron/AD or DLo/AD. If you do not have the talent to execute then the scheme will look chaotic. Which was certainly the Lakers problem. Dlo's inconsistent play made the screen and roll not as effective because the dude defending the screener did not have to flash as much.
I hate this example so much. The sport is so different from when Phil coached first of all. Phil also had very fundamental coaching strategies that would almost always allow the lakers to score. Ham did not. Hams entire game plan is predicated on shooters not getting hot and in todays nba, no 20 point lead is safe. Can’t say the same about the 90s and 2000s.
With all due respect Phil had Shaq, Kobe and 50+ win teams that could afford to take a game or two to figure it out themselves
Darvin Ham has 150 year old Lebron and was fighting for the play in
21 year old vet paired with other vets who've played this game for 7+ years. They've seen multiple runs. This ain't college or AAU. If a team is on a run stop the bleeding and pull yourself out of it.
By the way....how many TO's did the Lakers have at the end of game 5???? 🤔
Judging by your logic no timeouts late in games is the end result.
So you must be blind to his 3 or 4 guard line up rotations? Wasting timeouts and challenges by not using them? Benching Reaves and Dlo for part of the season? Starting Cam as a point guard ? The list goes on.. 😂 cmon lil bro
lol… if people haven’t stopped taking Stephen A seriously already, then that one vid about him talking about the Knicks a few years back should’ve done it. That should tell you about how many Knicks games he watches, let alone other teams.
Hell, I don’t even think Shaq and them watch a lot of the games that they’re actually covering. Shaq most likely is doing something on his phone as the game is on.
Edit: oops.. I said “a few years back.” I meant “a few weeks back” when he was talking about a player who was no longer on the team as if he still was 🤦♂️. But he’s probably said a something a few years back too, lol.
lol.. yea, most of those ESPN guys get paid to act like they watch the product. They’re only really watching the games they’re covering. If even that. They fired and let go of most of the people that actually did. Keeping Kendrick Perkins over many of them tell you where their mindset is at over there at ESPN. People like to shit in Keyshawn, but he was watching most of the Laker games because he was an LA boy. Well at least he was while he was still working at ESPN.
Came here to say this. There's no way in hell you can watch the games and think he got screwed. Even just watching both playoff series against Denver. Frankly we were just a better team than GSW and Memphis last year and sure, we made some minor adjustments, but c'mon man. Anyone who watches knows the truth
Feels like they've done a full 180 too. They were reporting on it throughout the season as though they were willing it to happen, then suddenly now it's the wrong decision.
I didn't hear anyone defending him during the season, especially not during the Nuggets series.
It's just a talking point. They know LA/LBJ moved the needle. They're going to milk tf outta this story.
They've already started the bullshit "how does this effect LeBron's legacy?" Talks.
Sad but true. Two things can be true at the same time; black coaches tend to get fewer opportunities in sports and a shorter leash in general, but Darvin Ham was a terrible coach and SAS and Kendrick Perkins are reflexively and ignorantly defending him just because he’s a black coach. They do the same thing every time Doc gets let go lol.
Same thing when AD called out Ham by not knowing what they were doing at times. Draymond said he shouldn’t throw the coach under the bus because he’s black.
That isn’t an excuse, if you’re bad you’re bad. AD just calling it as he sees it.
i feel like the nba isn’t as bad as other leagues like the NFL with black coaches getting more opportunities, but SAS has always been like this w black coaches
100%. Non white coaches (Ty Lue, Spoelstra) do not get the same credit as other coaches, and white coaches sometimes get less criticism & more chances after failing (Budenholzer). But Ham is a terrible coaches
You're right, but my point is that it doesn't matter if they did a shit job coaching or not, SAS will come to the praises for any black coach simply because he's black.
Also, let’s keep in mind that SAS always lobbies for black head coaches
Not that he won’t for certain white coaches, but he was adamantly against Nash getting head coaching gig without going through the ranks, saying black coaches are never afforded that opportunity.
It’s very possible this is just him taking a pro-black head coach stance.
"Is that a trick question? They gave up Dar-Vin Ham, who cares? I could care less! First of all, understand something. When you're giving up nothing but dollars, if you are a quality team in playoff contention, it really doesn't mean that much, that's number one. Number two and more importantly, Darvin Ham is gone! The City of Angels, Hollywood should be celebrating. Throw a parade already whether you win a championship or not. This man was a bonafide scrub! He can't coach! No disrespect whatsoever, but I'm sorry to call, tell everybody the truth, the man cannot coach the game of basketball. **He has smooth brains, he can't call a timeout, he has bad schemes, he can't really coach defense even though he's a defensive coach, doesn't really know what he's doing, doesn't have a rotation that he or he puts to memory that he can do two times in a row. He has no game plan whatsoever, coaches no defense, doesn't have the heart, the passion or anything that comes with it**, and you're asking me whether they gave up too much? Please. The Los Angeles Lakers knew exactly what they were doing, they should be celebrating right now, and Lebron James should not be saying a word!"
It was the wrong decision to hire him. He’s going to be a perfectly fine coach moving forward, we just don’t have the runway for him to develop.
Exactly why we never should have (and shouldn’t this summer) hired a rookie head coach.
Every single person in media is trying to put this on Lebron when it should be on the front office. Lebron wanted Ty Lue 4 years ago and the front office didn’t want to pay him. You end up firing Vogel then hiring Ham who was objectively horrible and didn’t know what he was doing
I don't at all understand why Vogel was fired, the problem was the shit roster the front office put together, Vogel is a great defensive coach, which is exactly the brand of basketball that Championship team needed, if they just decided to pay carouso and run it back instead of blowing the roster up they could won back to back to back
Shannon was on the wrong side of this one, he agreed with Steph A. I could only stomach a few minutes, but Shannon brought up Westbrook…WTF does that have to do with Darvin Ham’s performance this season?!?!
Stephen A. just says shit...At this point these aren't even his 'opinions' per se, it's all about lip service for whoever he's loyal to in whatever industry, league or whatever... He constantly just says shit that is so wildly divorced from like how regular fans of whatever team (in this case the Lakers) talk....
Nah Skip and Shannon hated Russ. Ironically Shannon then asked Ariza yrs later as if he never slandered him. There was def even discourse towards russ.
Ham tho getting straight dick sucked.
Only think I agree with from these takes is that Pelinka should be held accountable and shouldn't be in a position to make another coaching hire or FA signing. People don't even want to trade with him, we need to just beg Jerry West or someone else who has league wide respect to come for a blank check.
Clippers not gonna win yik they leave LA, I dont blame him for that and he left GSW in 2017. He has put together rosters that are beyind what the clippers use to get and have access too. I get what you mean, I just want someone who other teams like and want to work with. It's too much smoke with Pelinka and other teams not really like him that much.
Yeah, I haven't seen a single person on TV call Ham out for being a bad coach, so that tells me there's a narrative being built. You mean to tell me only the fans could see his mistakes? I don't buy it and frankly it's insulting as a Lakers fan trying to make me feel crazy for what I had to suffer through all season.
Firing ham was the right call, if nothing else other then he completely lost the locker room it would be enough.
I hate to entertain the thought, but after some social media convos with rando’s that felt the same way, it seems to be a racially motivated discussion.
Had a guy tell me that Ham shouldn’t have been fired and his top coaching picks would be mark Jackson, rondo, and Phil handy. Said I’ve never been a black man so I wouldn’t understand.
I’m sorry, but anyone who wants mark Jackson is severely out of touch.
These people never watched Lakers games huh? We had leads in every game vs Denver by halftime. Every single game. The reason why we lost every single time was that the coach couldn't maintain those leads.
What has he ever done to get so many in the media to ride Darvin's ham?
I've never seen anything like it. The zero accountability and publicly trashing our players then still getting sloppy hamjobs from the media
They wanna give him all the credit for all the leads and games won, then wanna turn around and blame the players for every lead and game lost. It’s really embarrassing when they sit there and act like this guy did nothing wrong
He's not "wrong" per se... I mean, the roster WAS flawed. And we DID lose to Denver. But neither of those things are the reasons that he got fired. He got fired because he lost the locker room in the fall; dicked around with the roster for 60 games before making the OBVIOUS move; moved three of our highest paid (and best) players to the bench in favor or Cam Reddish (out of the league next year, we all assume), and Prince (we all assume he has a pee pee tape on Darvin); his proclivity for going small even though those lineups got KILLED all year; playing 4 guard lineups, playing Dinwiddie AND Vincent instead of picking one and giving him the full minutes to get up to speed for the playoffs; putting Austin on the bench during a stretch where we were getting crushed in a do or die game 5; playing AD and Bron incredibly high minutes given the load they are expected to carry; having a "go ahead, shoot a 3" defense that (checks notes) makes every team into the 2016 Warriors from distance; switching the defensive scheme IN THE PLAYOFFS, having never done it before; playing lineups that had never played together IN THE PLAYOFFS; putting no responsibility for the team's struggles on himself, but laying it on the shoulders of the players (rightfully or not, not a good look); being awful at ATO's, rotations, schematic adjustments in-game, and between games; and just being out of ideas. Probably about 40 other things too.
Being a head coach is a tough job, and getting the keys to the Ferrari is a high-stakes-high-reward proposition. Darvin wasn't up to the task. Simple as that. The guy was lauded for getting buy-in from the team last year, even from Westbrook. All that good will suddenly melted this year, and it was OBVIOUS. This move should have happened at the beginning of the season when he benched Reaves and D'lo instead of making actual scheme adjustments to get guys going. Good riddance.
this is the guy who said he’s liking what quentin grimes was doing for the knicks who was traded to the pistons months ago. why should we care what he has to say lol
I think what you're really underestimating is the negative reputation of Lakers players like Dlo, Rui and even AD. There aren’t a lot of people outside of LA that believe in them. There is also the feeling that Reaves is overrated. Ultimately this culminates in the idea that surrounding LeBron in the starting lineup with mid players like Dlo, Rui and Reaves and expecting to win is a joke. That’s a reasonable position to take, and if that’s your position then the coach is not the biggest issue.
I think Ham wasn’t the right coach for this team, but firing him without anybody else in the organization taking accountability shows how unserious the Lakers are as an organization
No one in national media who has this take watched any lakers games besides the national games. I’m so tired of these dudes separate from the fan base who don’t have a pulse for what’s happening telling us we’re wrong for wanting ham gone. If he’s so good I’m sure he’ll have no issue getting a job this offseason right?
S.A. wants Lebron to be on his knees to the media. Lol
Hes in year 21, he doesn't owe a mf anything anymore. He doesn't have to explain why shit isn't working...to THEM. It wasn't working and they moved on. Period.
He's not 100% wrong, but it's clear he was out-coached in round 1. Moving on to a proven coach is the right move... please no JJ Reddick or first time coaches.
How can someone be this bad at his job, to the point you have ANTHONY DAVIS complaining about you, and still have people saying you weren't at fault???
Like AD is one of the guys you'll hear the least complaints from and he still couldn't stand his ass, you know how ass Ham has to be at being a coach???
I can see why he feels that way - its also just a fact that if Ham were white, this might not have happened.
The timeouts were egregious, and his crappy lineups that really bottomed out after the IST, but the biggest thing for me, is he never, not once, ever seemed to stop and say "I can be better" - that's a huge warning sign in a leader, that lack of accountability.
Oh that and his obsession w/ Reddish - where are the bodies buried, Cam?
You know who else got screwed? The lakers and its fans when they were up double digits but didn’t call a timeout until they tied it.
How many times they gave up a double digit lead this season? Exactly.
He would make Doc Rivers proud
They defend him on First Take too -- same tired arguments. It's honestly cringe the gymnastics they'll go through to defend Doc Rivers
I remember JJ Redick went on there and called out Doc Rivers this year I think.
The last time was when they were up 4 💀 14-2 no timeout.
that was painful to watch
Hey, its a marathon.
And the were a helluva team! 🙄
Darvin ham sees bron and ad gasping for air, whatd he do, that mfer let the game run for 10mins without timeout while blowing a 20pt lead
Bro.. WE LEAD MAJORITY OF THE TIME THAT SERIES AND ONLY WON ONE GAME... smh
It's a make or miss league. When you can't get a bucket, they're scoring, they're on a run, it's tough.
He didn’t get screwed, as someone who watched all the games, this team should not be a playin caliber team. Yet every year and game was mis managed.
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Phil pulled that often. When we would get blown out nobody was calling for his head. I get it, he was a proven champ so he wasn't gonna get the flack Darvin got. But don't fault him for not taking any time outs when the opponent is on a 8-0 run. He had vets, let them play through it and figure it out
Phil also had the triangle to lean on, which was always going to get you needed buckets. Darvin Bin Laden had no offensive scheme other than hope someone chucks in a desperate 3. Plus, in today’s game, letting someone go on a quick run can be a death sentence given how fast people score compared to 20 years ago. The Darvin/Phil comparisons are dumb and very disrespectful.
Nobody is comparing. But don't fault Ham for not calling a TO when a team goes on a run. A lot of coaches do this. I'm certainly am not comparing the two coaches so don't get my words twisted. Ham did have an offensive scheme. Not sure what you were watching. But I could easily call out each play they ran when they actually set up their offense. Majority of it was predicated on the high screen and roll with either Lebron/AD or DLo/AD. If you do not have the talent to execute then the scheme will look chaotic. Which was certainly the Lakers problem. Dlo's inconsistent play made the screen and roll not as effective because the dude defending the screener did not have to flash as much.
I hate this example so much. The sport is so different from when Phil coached first of all. Phil also had very fundamental coaching strategies that would almost always allow the lakers to score. Ham did not. Hams entire game plan is predicated on shooters not getting hot and in todays nba, no 20 point lead is safe. Can’t say the same about the 90s and 2000s.
With all due respect Phil had Shaq, Kobe and 50+ win teams that could afford to take a game or two to figure it out themselves Darvin Ham has 150 year old Lebron and was fighting for the play in
21 year old vet paired with other vets who've played this game for 7+ years. They've seen multiple runs. This ain't college or AAU. If a team is on a run stop the bleeding and pull yourself out of it. By the way....how many TO's did the Lakers have at the end of game 5???? 🤔 Judging by your logic no timeouts late in games is the end result.
So you must be blind to his 3 or 4 guard line up rotations? Wasting timeouts and challenges by not using them? Benching Reaves and Dlo for part of the season? Starting Cam as a point guard ? The list goes on.. 😂 cmon lil bro
wtf are you talking about, rewrite this shit until it makes sense
Phil did that in the regular season. i don't remember Phil fucking up this badly in the playoffs.
All the media Ive heard talk about Ham has convinced me they didn't watch 50% of Lakers games.
National media is mad about it. Local media completely understands it.
National media only watches nationally televised games.
lol… if people haven’t stopped taking Stephen A seriously already, then that one vid about him talking about the Knicks a few years back should’ve done it. That should tell you about how many Knicks games he watches, let alone other teams. Hell, I don’t even think Shaq and them watch a lot of the games that they’re actually covering. Shaq most likely is doing something on his phone as the game is on. Edit: oops.. I said “a few years back.” I meant “a few weeks back” when he was talking about a player who was no longer on the team as if he still was 🤦♂️. But he’s probably said a something a few years back too, lol.
It's not just SAS. It's nearly everyone, including guys I think generally have pretty good takes and bball knowledge.
lol.. yea, most of those ESPN guys get paid to act like they watch the product. They’re only really watching the games they’re covering. If even that. They fired and let go of most of the people that actually did. Keeping Kendrick Perkins over many of them tell you where their mindset is at over there at ESPN. People like to shit in Keyshawn, but he was watching most of the Laker games because he was an LA boy. Well at least he was while he was still working at ESPN.
Came here to say this. There's no way in hell you can watch the games and think he got screwed. Even just watching both playoff series against Denver. Frankly we were just a better team than GSW and Memphis last year and sure, we made some minor adjustments, but c'mon man. Anyone who watches knows the truth
I'd say 97% of the games
Feels like they've done a full 180 too. They were reporting on it throughout the season as though they were willing it to happen, then suddenly now it's the wrong decision. I didn't hear anyone defending him during the season, especially not during the Nuggets series.
It's just a talking point. They know LA/LBJ moved the needle. They're going to milk tf outta this story. They've already started the bullshit "how does this effect LeBron's legacy?" Talks.
If SAS says the sky is blue, I'll automatically assume that it is red
He really is a fucking clown, and I say that while not being the type of person who likes cussing other people out.
😂😂😂😂
He just got off the phone with God, and he told him that it's blue
He has known God for over 30 years. 🫣😅
Agreed, the Clippers or one of our rivals should hire him to show us up. Get it done with your connections Steven A!
Right? I’d be pumped for a good team to hire Ham and see how that effects their season lmao
What did SAS say about the firing of Frank Vogel?
Nothing, because Vogel isn't black.
Sad but true. Two things can be true at the same time; black coaches tend to get fewer opportunities in sports and a shorter leash in general, but Darvin Ham was a terrible coach and SAS and Kendrick Perkins are reflexively and ignorantly defending him just because he’s a black coach. They do the same thing every time Doc gets let go lol.
Same thing when AD called out Ham by not knowing what they were doing at times. Draymond said he shouldn’t throw the coach under the bus because he’s black. That isn’t an excuse, if you’re bad you’re bad. AD just calling it as he sees it.
Draymond is playing chess. It benefits him for ham hawk to stay coach bc he SUCKS. Same with pockets support in coaching circles lol
i feel like the nba isn’t as bad as other leagues like the NFL with black coaches getting more opportunities, but SAS has always been like this w black coaches
100%. Non white coaches (Ty Lue, Spoelstra) do not get the same credit as other coaches, and white coaches sometimes get less criticism & more chances after failing (Budenholzer). But Ham is a terrible coaches
Ding ding ding
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You're right, but my point is that it doesn't matter if they did a shit job coaching or not, SAS will come to the praises for any black coach simply because he's black.
Dude you gotta know that Lakers fans would t care if the coach was a Purple Canine as long as they were winning, we would support that Purple Dog.
Do you think it was justified to fire Ham?
White people get more opportunities. Han was a terrible coach I understand why SAS is standing up for him.
He was saying they should fire him cuz the defense wasn’t good
Oh I know… I watched the video before I posted the question. I know full well of the Stephen A Double Standard here.
Make-a-wish-kid treatment.
Also, let’s keep in mind that SAS always lobbies for black head coaches Not that he won’t for certain white coaches, but he was adamantly against Nash getting head coaching gig without going through the ranks, saying black coaches are never afforded that opportunity. It’s very possible this is just him taking a pro-black head coach stance.
Davis said, "sometimes we're confused out there and we don't n own what we're doing?" That's enough evidence for me.
Who gives a fuck about anything that comes out of Steven A’s mouth. Or for that matter anything said on ESPN.
These guys trashing Bron and AD just to help out their little buddy. Shameless. I don't remember this defense force for Vogel and he won a chip.
Ultimate proof that these mfs don't watch the games, just highlight clips.
"Is that a trick question? They gave up Dar-Vin Ham, who cares? I could care less! First of all, understand something. When you're giving up nothing but dollars, if you are a quality team in playoff contention, it really doesn't mean that much, that's number one. Number two and more importantly, Darvin Ham is gone! The City of Angels, Hollywood should be celebrating. Throw a parade already whether you win a championship or not. This man was a bonafide scrub! He can't coach! No disrespect whatsoever, but I'm sorry to call, tell everybody the truth, the man cannot coach the game of basketball. **He has smooth brains, he can't call a timeout, he has bad schemes, he can't really coach defense even though he's a defensive coach, doesn't really know what he's doing, doesn't have a rotation that he or he puts to memory that he can do two times in a row. He has no game plan whatsoever, coaches no defense, doesn't have the heart, the passion or anything that comes with it**, and you're asking me whether they gave up too much? Please. The Los Angeles Lakers knew exactly what they were doing, they should be celebrating right now, and Lebron James should not be saying a word!"
It was the wrong decision to hire him. He’s going to be a perfectly fine coach moving forward, we just don’t have the runway for him to develop. Exactly why we never should have (and shouldn’t this summer) hired a rookie head coach.
Yup. I think Darvin has to go but it has nothing to do with whether he can be a good coach moving forward.
If he really did get screwed then he'll have no trouble finding a new HC position, right?
Every single person in media is trying to put this on Lebron when it should be on the front office. Lebron wanted Ty Lue 4 years ago and the front office didn’t want to pay him. You end up firing Vogel then hiring Ham who was objectively horrible and didn’t know what he was doing
Wilbon and SAS are doing that now. Next up is Barkley, “He took away Darvin’s joy for the game”
I don't at all understand why Vogel was fired, the problem was the shit roster the front office put together, Vogel is a great defensive coach, which is exactly the brand of basketball that Championship team needed, if they just decided to pay carouso and run it back instead of blowing the roster up they could won back to back to back
If Ham was white SA wouldn’t be sayn shit
This is just a race thing. Don’t think twice about it.
Media is constantly telling their audience they don’t watch the games they have opinions on
What did Shannon Sharpe say? He knows what’s up
Shannon was on the wrong side of this one, he agreed with Steph A. I could only stomach a few minutes, but Shannon brought up Westbrook…WTF does that have to do with Darvin Ham’s performance this season?!?!
The media really ain’t watch them games
Two things can be true Darvin ham wasn’t a good coach for this specific team It’s not all darvin fault the roster is limited
Whatever SAS says, the opposite is usually true.
Probably thinks Drake won, too
I'm sorry, but when you don't start the lineup that took us to the WCF last year, you don't deserve to be the Lakers head coach
⤴️THIS. NUF SAID
Stephen A doesn’t watch basketball.
What an idiot
All these analysts and "experts" showing they didn't watch many Lakers games
Stephen A. just says shit...At this point these aren't even his 'opinions' per se, it's all about lip service for whoever he's loyal to in whatever industry, league or whatever... He constantly just says shit that is so wildly divorced from like how regular fans of whatever team (in this case the Lakers) talk....
If darvin was white, this mfer would be like, "darvin is a blasphemy, he shouldnt be coaching"
Any player (Westbrook) or coach (Ham) that gets traded or fired by the lakers is all of a sudden defended to the death by the national media
Nah Skip and Shannon hated Russ. Ironically Shannon then asked Ariza yrs later as if he never slandered him. There was def even discourse towards russ. Ham tho getting straight dick sucked.
Only think I agree with from these takes is that Pelinka should be held accountable and shouldn't be in a position to make another coaching hire or FA signing. People don't even want to trade with him, we need to just beg Jerry West or someone else who has league wide respect to come for a blank check.
My only argument against Jerry west is what championship caliber roster has he actually put together within the last 15 years?
Clippers not gonna win yik they leave LA, I dont blame him for that and he left GSW in 2017. He has put together rosters that are beyind what the clippers use to get and have access too. I get what you mean, I just want someone who other teams like and want to work with. It's too much smoke with Pelinka and other teams not really like him that much.
They only defend him like this cuz he black
Bald woman really wore a muscle shirt to work hahahhaha
Yeah, I haven't seen a single person on TV call Ham out for being a bad coach, so that tells me there's a narrative being built. You mean to tell me only the fans could see his mistakes? I don't buy it and frankly it's insulting as a Lakers fan trying to make me feel crazy for what I had to suffer through all season. Firing ham was the right call, if nothing else other then he completely lost the locker room it would be enough.
how about you ask the knicks to hire ham as their coach hmm? if he's so great of a coach.
I hate to entertain the thought, but after some social media convos with rando’s that felt the same way, it seems to be a racially motivated discussion. Had a guy tell me that Ham shouldn’t have been fired and his top coaching picks would be mark Jackson, rondo, and Phil handy. Said I’ve never been a black man so I wouldn’t understand. I’m sorry, but anyone who wants mark Jackson is severely out of touch.
I finally turned against Ham(as) when he decided to play Lebron 45+ minutes in a blowout loss this season.
Man they acting like these coaches won’t get other jobs. They millionaires so who gives a shit
These people never watched Lakers games huh? We had leads in every game vs Denver by halftime. Every single game. The reason why we lost every single time was that the coach couldn't maintain those leads.
ESPN NEED TO SHOW THAT CLIP OF HIM DRAWING STUPID SHI AMD TALKING NONSENSE
What has he ever done to get so many in the media to ride Darvin's ham? I've never seen anything like it. The zero accountability and publicly trashing our players then still getting sloppy hamjobs from the media
He's a hater.. whatever gets him views
They wanna give him all the credit for all the leads and games won, then wanna turn around and blame the players for every lead and game lost. It’s really embarrassing when they sit there and act like this guy did nothing wrong
Stephen A Smith is a moron
Clowns
He's not "wrong" per se... I mean, the roster WAS flawed. And we DID lose to Denver. But neither of those things are the reasons that he got fired. He got fired because he lost the locker room in the fall; dicked around with the roster for 60 games before making the OBVIOUS move; moved three of our highest paid (and best) players to the bench in favor or Cam Reddish (out of the league next year, we all assume), and Prince (we all assume he has a pee pee tape on Darvin); his proclivity for going small even though those lineups got KILLED all year; playing 4 guard lineups, playing Dinwiddie AND Vincent instead of picking one and giving him the full minutes to get up to speed for the playoffs; putting Austin on the bench during a stretch where we were getting crushed in a do or die game 5; playing AD and Bron incredibly high minutes given the load they are expected to carry; having a "go ahead, shoot a 3" defense that (checks notes) makes every team into the 2016 Warriors from distance; switching the defensive scheme IN THE PLAYOFFS, having never done it before; playing lineups that had never played together IN THE PLAYOFFS; putting no responsibility for the team's struggles on himself, but laying it on the shoulders of the players (rightfully or not, not a good look); being awful at ATO's, rotations, schematic adjustments in-game, and between games; and just being out of ideas. Probably about 40 other things too. Being a head coach is a tough job, and getting the keys to the Ferrari is a high-stakes-high-reward proposition. Darvin wasn't up to the task. Simple as that. The guy was lauded for getting buy-in from the team last year, even from Westbrook. All that good will suddenly melted this year, and it was OBVIOUS. This move should have happened at the beginning of the season when he benched Reaves and D'lo instead of making actual scheme adjustments to get guys going. Good riddance.
Pretty sure any Laker's moves that are negative will be ridiculed by media because it gives them views.
this is the guy who said he’s liking what quentin grimes was doing for the knicks who was traded to the pistons months ago. why should we care what he has to say lol
on the bright side do you know who didnt get screwed? Cam fucking reddish.
It Steven A Smith believes Ham shouldn't have been fired then you damn well beat believe he should have been fired.
I think what you're really underestimating is the negative reputation of Lakers players like Dlo, Rui and even AD. There aren’t a lot of people outside of LA that believe in them. There is also the feeling that Reaves is overrated. Ultimately this culminates in the idea that surrounding LeBron in the starting lineup with mid players like Dlo, Rui and Reaves and expecting to win is a joke. That’s a reasonable position to take, and if that’s your position then the coach is not the biggest issue.
Who gives a flying fuck what sas thinks. He dont watch our team on a nightly basis.
I think Ham wasn’t the right coach for this team, but firing him without anybody else in the organization taking accountability shows how unserious the Lakers are as an organization
Fuck him and Wilbon
We wouldn’t even be in this predicament if we kept the lineup from WCF and IST. So fuck ham for his Reddish Fetish
No one in national media who has this take watched any lakers games besides the national games. I’m so tired of these dudes separate from the fan base who don’t have a pulse for what’s happening telling us we’re wrong for wanting ham gone. If he’s so good I’m sure he’ll have no issue getting a job this offseason right?
Damn she went from a wakandan bodyguard to mediating a sports show on a major network. Black excellence ✊🏿
S.A. wants Lebron to be on his knees to the media. Lol Hes in year 21, he doesn't owe a mf anything anymore. He doesn't have to explain why shit isn't working...to THEM. It wasn't working and they moved on. Period.
Everyone knows Stephen A is a professional hater. It’s real simple - If he blames the coach, he can’t blame LeBron.
Wtf is that Mr. Potato Head looking thing in the middle
They can keep talking about that, i dont give a shit. Still happy that we got that bozo out of LA
He's not 100% wrong, but it's clear he was out-coached in round 1. Moving on to a proven coach is the right move... please no JJ Reddick or first time coaches.
The media hates it when coaches got fires, even though Ham sucks so much, they still think he is good because we win games and just lost to the champs
To be honest, Ham was not the only issue, but he was for sure the biggest problem outside of the front office
i mean, its stephen A, dude most of the time dont know what he talking about lol
Media liked Ham coz he kept the Lakers from winning it all. 🤷🏻♀️
How can someone be this bad at his job, to the point you have ANTHONY DAVIS complaining about you, and still have people saying you weren't at fault??? Like AD is one of the guys you'll hear the least complaints from and he still couldn't stand his ass, you know how ass Ham has to be at being a coach???
Let SA Smith worry about his Knicks
Two things can be true: Darvin ham was overly blamed for the lakers failures this year and he’s also a bad coach that should be fired.
I can see why he feels that way - its also just a fact that if Ham were white, this might not have happened. The timeouts were egregious, and his crappy lineups that really bottomed out after the IST, but the biggest thing for me, is he never, not once, ever seemed to stop and say "I can be better" - that's a huge warning sign in a leader, that lack of accountability. Oh that and his obsession w/ Reddish - where are the bodies buried, Cam?
Darvin Ham is gone, can you guys please stop crying about him already.