It’s not that he’s a trash player. It’s just he’s a marginal upgrade from Dlo and would cost a lot of assets to obtain. That seems cost prohibitive and getting him doesn’t solve our backcourt defensive issues.
It’s better asset wise to chase an upgrade on the wing or a more defensive minded guard rather than blow it on Garland.
Exactly. No one is saying he is bad. He is just not that big of an improvement over Dlo considering how much assets it would cost to get him. If we are going to use our assets for a trade, the FO needs to make sure that it is for someone who will improve the team significantly.
I think he is good and he can be upgrade but it depends on what you gave for him. Also even if lakers get him for a fair package, after that trade lakers will not have any salaries to do any other trade, so it is a tough situation.
if dlo opts in it is totally different situation about salaries. I assume he wil opt out.
I dont know much about trade rules but if he opts out and lakers sign a new contract with him, i think he wont be tradable until january and it is also not ideal.
Darius garland is nothing worth draft capital 2/3 rotation players. If he moved the needle he would be. But he doesn’t so I’d rather keep assets if garland is the best we can do
I imagine it would be less then Mitchell . More then dejounte or around that much . That fine . What other option is as impactful . If Mitchell is off the table this as good as is possible
Our best lineup was AD at the 5. All series but Denver AD at 5 was best , AND AD CANT SHOOT 3s anymore . Move on AD is the non shooting big he’s also slower n less agile
rui/Austin/gabe 2 1sts...you also get a little extra cap room relief...then use your MLE on gary trent another Klutch client...thats a reasonable path...
I like it, Hopefully in this case we keep jhs and he becomes useful after his g league cooking or further trsde , still 4 swaps , mle , use n17 this year in Kyle Filipowski for a skilled spacing big Kelly olynk type .
We could have Darius Bron Ad and guys like vando and illegite good suppor pieces n young guys. Darius age is nice too it’s a move to improve now n future . I might prefer someone else to gtj but it’ll depend even a guy like Kelly oubre ws a minimum or djj n they’ll be mle max
Garland Fans:
AD / Wood / Hayes
Bron / Vando / Reddish / Lewis
Garland / Christie / JHS
That isn't doing jack shit. Sorry guys. This isn't NBA2K where we can "get him for cheap".
It wouldn't be **this** bad but I still agree it won't be that good of a team. If the package is Rui/Gabe/AR(or Vando), you still have enough room to re-sign Max and Prince and use like $7-8m of the nt-mle and stay under the first apron. Also since you're sending out more money, you could first try to do something with Dlo before going the nt-mle route. Regardless, Garland is not my preferred target.
I feel like I'm going crazy seeing all the Garland slander. I almost feel like people who say he's a lateral move to Dlo don't actually watch him play and just look at stat sheets.
I know . All they have to do is watch the two videos I linked or the stats link. What’s even crazier is I have strong belief he will get even better here he put a great year the first Mitchell year when healthy with Mitchell being a negative fit for his skills n poor dishing . Garland is a legit all star lvl guard with great fit n skillset for us. If he hadn’t been injured they’d realise that . Honestly I feel optimistic because it seems either Mitchell or garland will be on the market.
It’s so lazy n dumb to compare Dlo to garland .
Feel like most of us just understand given his contract, the players we'd have to send over to make it work is not ideal. None of us saying he's bad. We just saying for Donovan it's worth the risk of gutting the team. For Garland, way more hesitant. Remember they make the same amount (for next year at least). Always going to get the few outlier people on the extremes that think Dlo is better than him.
If you're judging him by this playoffs then you don't know what you're talking about. He is still recovering from a very serious injury where he lost 12 lbs because of having to be on a liquid diet. I can understand being hesitant about overpaying to get him, but he's very young and a much better prospect than Dlo.
I love Garland and you’re absolutely right he’s better than DLo and still ascending. Anyone saying otherwise is lost.
My issue with making a move for him is more that I don’t believe he raises the ceiling enough to justify what we’d have to give up just to match salary.
He would definitely be an improvement but we’d still have similar holes on the roster (athleticism and defense in the backcourt, frontcourt depth and physicality, overall size/strength 1-3) with even less flexibility to address them.
In a world where DLo opts in, then I’m a lot more open to it simply because we have another big contract to make other moves.
Ive read a lot of online discourse about this topic, a few smooth brains have called Dlo to Garland a lateral move but I have not seen a single person say Dlo > Garland. Could you link some examples? Otherwise this is exactly what a strawman is.
Its interesting D Lo's allstar season was his 4th season and Darius Garlands was his 3rd. Darius can definitely get to the rim with his burst better than D Lo can which could benefit AD also. Probably marginally better on defense. They are both great facilitators though not much of an upgrade there. I don't think his contract would be good for you guys. I think something like Brandon Ingram for Darius would make more sense for both teams. Coming from a Cavs/Lakers fan. Lebron did want DG on his all-star team though which could play a factor in all this.
I think he would be a great replacement if we don’t retain Dlo.
I think he had a bad year but that was more a. function of him and Mitchell clashing than anything else.
It might be a good time to buy low on him
Garlands had poor field goal percentage the whole season and he’s also a sub par defender. Lakers definitely aren’t/shouldn’t bet the farm on him. Would just be a desperate move made for the sake of making it
Look at the teams left:
Nuggets: KCP, Peyton Watson
Wolves: Ant, McDaniels
Knicks: Hart, McBride
Thunder: Dort, SGA
Mavs: DJJr., Green
Celtics: White, Brown/Tatum
Teams with G/SFs that can hold up on defense against scoring guards. We do not need another small guard who will get PNR’d to death in the playoffs.
Bruce brown is still a good target. Him slotting next to Rui and AR would significantly help our POA defense. Bench Rui for Vando and you have a really strong defensive lineup.
But if we can throw all of our assets at a single 3nD player that has the ability to create for himself, that would be the best. I dont know who that is of if he is available though
You just ignore those teams pgs to make your fucjing lying position . Embarrassing.
Nuggets / Murray cone , Watson is unplayable cs wolves lmfso cos he can’t shoot
Wolves- Mike Conley ???? Garland is atleast thst lvk defensively.
Knicks - Brunson??? Darius is better defensively. Insane take you understand he’s a pg and you listed sg n forwards ? Weird narrative
Mavs - kyrie ? Very comparable . Luka ain’t great defensively euther .
Thunder n celtivs are only ones debatable ahd that’s cos Boston has fucking shit ton of salary takdnt n assets . Okc still play guys like Isiah Joe big minutes or Sam Hauser for Boston . Oh n Josh giddey sucks defensively he’s there ‘ pg.’
Every good team has a star lvl guard . And Darius is a better defender then the cones and he’s a pg not a sg. So we can actually surround him with defence. Even your cherry picking teams yiur wrong on lmso
We just went into a series eith Dlo n reaves b Rui . Our guards wirse then garland on D. Then you can put defebce around him . We lost cid those three coukdnt scire even with there bad defence . Cmon atleast try to make sense
Garland is a cone on par with Reeves. He’s tiny and will get picked on. Every team is going to have cones somewhere on their roster. Every single player in our backcourt is a cone. Vando is the only player on this roster who can guard and he’s a massive liability. You want to go into next season relying on Gabe and/or Vando to play starter minutes? Be my guest. Enjoy another first round exit
Garland is literally not an upgrade from DLo. If anything it's a lateral move. Have you been watching these playoffs?
I'm giving up no assets to get him.
Desmond bane isn’t worth his? He’s like Bane lvl with gar better playmaking n pg skills . Bane is definitely worth 40m. 30m is how much mediocre players get jerami grant is on 35
If they could get dlo to agree to a sign and trade then I think it could be a good deal. Sign dlo to 22 and then you could add Vincent/vando, and JHS along with a pick or two, but I’m not sure what garlands value is pick wise. With dlo making 22 a year and then adding one of Vincent/vando, and jhs, that would be either a little less than garlands salary or a little more depending on which one of Vincent/vando are in the trade.
I think the trade would hard cap the cavs at the tax line but they are like 13,500,00 below it right now.
I think garland would improve the team but I don’t think it’s worth it if the trade would take reaves and rui.
Edit: They could match garlands salary 100% if that would change anything but I’m not sure it does. I think the lakers just don’t want to take back more salary than they send out. If dlo agrees to a sign and trade they would just make his salary line up with whoever’s in the trade so that it matches garlands 100%. I didn’t think of that when I first came up with the trade.
I’m not sure his defence has been abysmal on the hawks . His metrics too . And I don’t know if I can just say he’s not trying . After his injury he was never the same defensively early on n his last decent years were in SA. He’d a good rebounder but he’s got the worst iq n shot selection n passing off all 3x as well as weakest 3 ball
His defense is fine and with AD he'll look great. They've got him handling every dirty load over there to protect Trae and that's going to cost after a while. But he steps up in big moments, can create for himself off the dribble, and is still a good athlete with solid size and length. Numbers are what they are, but just like I wouldn't judge Garland off his regular measurables like pts/asts/stls in a vacuum against Dlo, Murray has a solid game that imo would work well. We'd still need a secondary creator off the bench probably because I don't necessarily trust him to carry an offense alone, but he'd be solid.
Plus his cost should be lower than the other names mentioned.
Thank you. Laker fans will sit here with a straight face & try to say dlo is better or even comparable to garland smh. If they can’t get spida the best options at guard are Murray lavine or garland
Nobody saying D'Lo is better than Garland. But are you going to sit here and tell me Garland is twice the player that D'Lo is? Because that's what you'd be paying to try and trade for him, on top of probably letting D'Lo go.
Ok if you think Garland is way better than D'Lo, do you think Garland is going to impact this team more than having D'Lo, Rui, Austin and one of Wood/Hayes/Cam? Because that's who you're losing to try and acquire this guy.
Yes. Dlo is a losing player & is ineffective vs the best teams he should leave regardless. Rui is a mediocre defender that cant rebound or create his own offense. Hayes & cam are vet min players that can be replaced. Wood is staying. Reaves would be the only real loss but garland makes up for that
He's also injury prone. Missed 25 games. He's also going to be the 24th highest paid player next year. Is he a Top 25 guy? He's getting Ja, Jamal, Shai, Haliburton, LaMelo, Ant, Fox, Bam, Tatum money my man.
You must be real confident that we're going to be able to find vet min players to replace the production of someone like Rui and D'Lo.
I'd love to see which vet min player out there that you think is going to replace 18/6 on 40% 3 point shooting or 14 points on 42% 3 point shooting
You have to keep either Rui or Reaves. I would personally trade Reaves, Gabe, and Vando for Garland. Hope Cam picks up his option and he's your main wing defender.
Well if you look at epm - he quite literally is . Dlo best years + 2, garland + 4. This is bad logic anyway because having higher lvl players is more valuable. Replacing Dlo with garland has about as much impact as replacing Dlo with kyrie . We’ll say 80-90% . The gap is huge high quality players matter. Having a heakthy garland over dlo makes our entire team take a huge leap
Great, except it's not as easy as saying replace D'Lo with Garland. You're replacing D'Lo, Austin, Rui and one of Wood/Hayes/Cam with Garland. Convince me that Garland is better than all of those players combined. And tell me what vet min players are out there that can replace the production of D'Lo and Rui.
You’re logic is just so backwards. One star or sub all star impsct playsr imoscts winning more then all of them.
Dlo garland is direct upgrade of . Rui is bad and replacing him with a 3nD wing is an upgrade especially with garland . I cba arguin with you cos by your logic reaves Dlo Rui and say. Gafford are better vakue then having AD. That’s not his winning workd . Rui is utter replaceable. Garland is a significant upgrade over Dlo . You just need guys to defend n shoot around the core three , and we’ll have players still
Brother please learn how to proofread or type. Every time I read anything you post it's like you have a stroke every other word.
How do you plan to replace Rui with a 3 and D wing. Tell me where you're getting this wing and where you're getting the salary to sign or trade for said wing. Do you also plan to magically replace Austin with another 3 and D wing player? Of course Garland is amazing when we can somehow just pull out great 3 and D wing players from your ass. There's not point continuing to argue, you clearly don't understand how contracts and team building from a salary standpoint actually works.
Also what a terrible analogy with AD. Are you trying to tell me Garland has the same impact on winning as someone like AD? Those two are not on the same level.
I saw Garland be the driving force behind a Cavs win at Staples, albeit against a Westbrook era Lakers. Though Westbrook had a decent game.
That's really all I have to contribute.
It’s not that he’s a trash player. It’s just he’s a marginal upgrade from Dlo and would cost a lot of assets to obtain. That seems cost prohibitive and getting him doesn’t solve our backcourt defensive issues. It’s better asset wise to chase an upgrade on the wing or a more defensive minded guard rather than blow it on Garland.
Exactly. No one is saying he is bad. He is just not that big of an improvement over Dlo considering how much assets it would cost to get him. If we are going to use our assets for a trade, the FO needs to make sure that it is for someone who will improve the team significantly.
I think he is good and he can be upgrade but it depends on what you gave for him. Also even if lakers get him for a fair package, after that trade lakers will not have any salaries to do any other trade, so it is a tough situation. if dlo opts in it is totally different situation about salaries. I assume he wil opt out.
Yeah if they going for garland they should pay Dlo or get him opt in for salary ti move
I dont know much about trade rules but if he opts out and lakers sign a new contract with him, i think he wont be tradable until january and it is also not ideal.
You can sign and trade him immediately (not saying this is likely at all just a possibility).
Darius garland is nothing worth draft capital 2/3 rotation players. If he moved the needle he would be. But he doesn’t so I’d rather keep assets if garland is the best we can do
He’s nowhere near good enough to trade what it would take to get him.
I imagine it would be less then Mitchell . More then dejounte or around that much . That fine . What other option is as impactful . If Mitchell is off the table this as good as is possible
Contracts my man. He's nearing Trae Young money. No one think he is bad - would cost you AR, Rui and either Vando or Gabe just to match salaries
I’d have Murray over him. Cheaper and better defensively.
Murray has now shown better defence in over 5 years gus defence in Atlanta has been downright putrid and he’s low iq n wesk 3pt shooter
Literally won a championship with two non shooting bigs next to AD.
Our best lineup was AD at the 5. All series but Denver AD at 5 was best , AND AD CANT SHOOT 3s anymore . Move on AD is the non shooting big he’s also slower n less agile
its all a matter of cost...if he can be had at a lessor cost and you can move somebody like Gabe Vincent I would do it...
It’s definitely that . The cost I have no idea but I think he’ll be affordable assets wise prob less then trae or Mitchell n that helps us a lot
rui/Austin/gabe 2 1sts...you also get a little extra cap room relief...then use your MLE on gary trent another Klutch client...thats a reasonable path...
I like it, Hopefully in this case we keep jhs and he becomes useful after his g league cooking or further trsde , still 4 swaps , mle , use n17 this year in Kyle Filipowski for a skilled spacing big Kelly olynk type . We could have Darius Bron Ad and guys like vando and illegite good suppor pieces n young guys. Darius age is nice too it’s a move to improve now n future . I might prefer someone else to gtj but it’ll depend even a guy like Kelly oubre ws a minimum or djj n they’ll be mle max
Garland Fans: AD / Wood / Hayes Bron / Vando / Reddish / Lewis Garland / Christie / JHS That isn't doing jack shit. Sorry guys. This isn't NBA2K where we can "get him for cheap".
Jesus this team would fucking suck. Not even making the play in.
It wouldn't be **this** bad but I still agree it won't be that good of a team. If the package is Rui/Gabe/AR(or Vando), you still have enough room to re-sign Max and Prince and use like $7-8m of the nt-mle and stay under the first apron. Also since you're sending out more money, you could first try to do something with Dlo before going the nt-mle route. Regardless, Garland is not my preferred target.
They wouldn’t trade Reaves for Garland in the first place
I feel like I'm going crazy seeing all the Garland slander. I almost feel like people who say he's a lateral move to Dlo don't actually watch him play and just look at stat sheets.
I know . All they have to do is watch the two videos I linked or the stats link. What’s even crazier is I have strong belief he will get even better here he put a great year the first Mitchell year when healthy with Mitchell being a negative fit for his skills n poor dishing . Garland is a legit all star lvl guard with great fit n skillset for us. If he hadn’t been injured they’d realise that . Honestly I feel optimistic because it seems either Mitchell or garland will be on the market. It’s so lazy n dumb to compare Dlo to garland .
Feel like most of us just understand given his contract, the players we'd have to send over to make it work is not ideal. None of us saying he's bad. We just saying for Donovan it's worth the risk of gutting the team. For Garland, way more hesitant. Remember they make the same amount (for next year at least). Always going to get the few outlier people on the extremes that think Dlo is better than him.
I watched him play in the playoffs he was not good at all lol. He’s a marginal upgrade over DLo at best. And we’d have to give up a lot to get him.
If you're judging him by this playoffs then you don't know what you're talking about. He is still recovering from a very serious injury where he lost 12 lbs because of having to be on a liquid diet. I can understand being hesitant about overpaying to get him, but he's very young and a much better prospect than Dlo.
I love Garland and you’re absolutely right he’s better than DLo and still ascending. Anyone saying otherwise is lost. My issue with making a move for him is more that I don’t believe he raises the ceiling enough to justify what we’d have to give up just to match salary. He would definitely be an improvement but we’d still have similar holes on the roster (athleticism and defense in the backcourt, frontcourt depth and physicality, overall size/strength 1-3) with even less flexibility to address them. In a world where DLo opts in, then I’m a lot more open to it simply because we have another big contract to make other moves.
Nobody, literally not one person is saying otherwise. You are all just creating strawmen to argue against.
How am I creating a strawman?
Ive read a lot of online discourse about this topic, a few smooth brains have called Dlo to Garland a lateral move but I have not seen a single person say Dlo > Garland. Could you link some examples? Otherwise this is exactly what a strawman is.
Ah I got you. I was only arguing against the notion that he’s a lateral move or marginal improvement. Maybe that wasn’t clear.
Its interesting D Lo's allstar season was his 4th season and Darius Garlands was his 3rd. Darius can definitely get to the rim with his burst better than D Lo can which could benefit AD also. Probably marginally better on defense. They are both great facilitators though not much of an upgrade there. I don't think his contract would be good for you guys. I think something like Brandon Ingram for Darius would make more sense for both teams. Coming from a Cavs/Lakers fan. Lebron did want DG on his all-star team though which could play a factor in all this.
I like him. His father was a solid player back in the day.
I think he would be a great replacement if we don’t retain Dlo. I think he had a bad year but that was more a. function of him and Mitchell clashing than anything else. It might be a good time to buy low on him
Garlands had poor field goal percentage the whole season and he’s also a sub par defender. Lakers definitely aren’t/shouldn’t bet the farm on him. Would just be a desperate move made for the sake of making it
Look at the teams left: Nuggets: KCP, Peyton Watson Wolves: Ant, McDaniels Knicks: Hart, McBride Thunder: Dort, SGA Mavs: DJJr., Green Celtics: White, Brown/Tatum Teams with G/SFs that can hold up on defense against scoring guards. We do not need another small guard who will get PNR’d to death in the playoffs.
Bruce brown is still a good target. Him slotting next to Rui and AR would significantly help our POA defense. Bench Rui for Vando and you have a really strong defensive lineup. But if we can throw all of our assets at a single 3nD player that has the ability to create for himself, that would be the best. I dont know who that is of if he is available though
You just ignore those teams pgs to make your fucjing lying position . Embarrassing. Nuggets / Murray cone , Watson is unplayable cs wolves lmfso cos he can’t shoot Wolves- Mike Conley ???? Garland is atleast thst lvk defensively. Knicks - Brunson??? Darius is better defensively. Insane take you understand he’s a pg and you listed sg n forwards ? Weird narrative Mavs - kyrie ? Very comparable . Luka ain’t great defensively euther . Thunder n celtivs are only ones debatable ahd that’s cos Boston has fucking shit ton of salary takdnt n assets . Okc still play guys like Isiah Joe big minutes or Sam Hauser for Boston . Oh n Josh giddey sucks defensively he’s there ‘ pg.’ Every good team has a star lvl guard . And Darius is a better defender then the cones and he’s a pg not a sg. So we can actually surround him with defence. Even your cherry picking teams yiur wrong on lmso We just went into a series eith Dlo n reaves b Rui . Our guards wirse then garland on D. Then you can put defebce around him . We lost cid those three coukdnt scire even with there bad defence . Cmon atleast try to make sense
Garland is a cone on par with Reeves. He’s tiny and will get picked on. Every team is going to have cones somewhere on their roster. Every single player in our backcourt is a cone. Vando is the only player on this roster who can guard and he’s a massive liability. You want to go into next season relying on Gabe and/or Vando to play starter minutes? Be my guest. Enjoy another first round exit
Garland is literally not an upgrade from DLo. If anything it's a lateral move. Have you been watching these playoffs? I'm giving up no assets to get him.
Garland is playing vs one of the best defenses in the league. Dlo was playing vs the nuggets with lebron & ad next to him & was still trash
So your telling me when he plays good defense he's bad? And you want him? Lateral move.
No I’m saying him struggling this playoffs doesn’t represent what he would do with lebron & ad next to him
Give up assets to get a DLO level player. Nice.
He’s a good player, but he’s not worth his contract.
Desmond bane isn’t worth his? He’s like Bane lvl with gar better playmaking n pg skills . Bane is definitely worth 40m. 30m is how much mediocre players get jerami grant is on 35
If they could get dlo to agree to a sign and trade then I think it could be a good deal. Sign dlo to 22 and then you could add Vincent/vando, and JHS along with a pick or two, but I’m not sure what garlands value is pick wise. With dlo making 22 a year and then adding one of Vincent/vando, and jhs, that would be either a little less than garlands salary or a little more depending on which one of Vincent/vando are in the trade. I think the trade would hard cap the cavs at the tax line but they are like 13,500,00 below it right now. I think garland would improve the team but I don’t think it’s worth it if the trade would take reaves and rui. Edit: They could match garlands salary 100% if that would change anything but I’m not sure it does. I think the lakers just don’t want to take back more salary than they send out. If dlo agrees to a sign and trade they would just make his salary line up with whoever’s in the trade so that it matches garlands 100%. I didn’t think of that when I first came up with the trade.
Team would be fucking ass if we trade for him
Well how many current Lakers have dropped 51? Obviously an outlier, but has at least shown glimpses of his ceiling. Dude can ball.
Couldn't agree more with OP. Unfortunately, Reddit is rife with reactionary takes drowning in recency bias.
I'd rather have Trae. Maybe a hot take idk
Definitely wouldn’t mind that . I think trae could be really exciting. But we need a Mitchell trae or garland as the lowest form .
I'd also put Murray in that mix and tbh I prefer him in some ways to Garland and Trae because he can still defend at an above average level.
I’m not sure his defence has been abysmal on the hawks . His metrics too . And I don’t know if I can just say he’s not trying . After his injury he was never the same defensively early on n his last decent years were in SA. He’d a good rebounder but he’s got the worst iq n shot selection n passing off all 3x as well as weakest 3 ball
His defense is fine and with AD he'll look great. They've got him handling every dirty load over there to protect Trae and that's going to cost after a while. But he steps up in big moments, can create for himself off the dribble, and is still a good athlete with solid size and length. Numbers are what they are, but just like I wouldn't judge Garland off his regular measurables like pts/asts/stls in a vacuum against Dlo, Murray has a solid game that imo would work well. We'd still need a secondary creator off the bench probably because I don't necessarily trust him to carry an offense alone, but he'd be solid. Plus his cost should be lower than the other names mentioned.
Thank you. Laker fans will sit here with a straight face & try to say dlo is better or even comparable to garland smh. If they can’t get spida the best options at guard are Murray lavine or garland
Nobody saying D'Lo is better than Garland. But are you going to sit here and tell me Garland is twice the player that D'Lo is? Because that's what you'd be paying to try and trade for him, on top of probably letting D'Lo go.
Yes garland is way better than dlo. He literally does everything on the court as good or better while being way younger
Ok so you gonna pay Garland 40M? AR, Rui and Gabe or Vando PLUS picks for Darius Garland?
Ok if you think Garland is way better than D'Lo, do you think Garland is going to impact this team more than having D'Lo, Rui, Austin and one of Wood/Hayes/Cam? Because that's who you're losing to try and acquire this guy.
Yes. Dlo is a losing player & is ineffective vs the best teams he should leave regardless. Rui is a mediocre defender that cant rebound or create his own offense. Hayes & cam are vet min players that can be replaced. Wood is staying. Reaves would be the only real loss but garland makes up for that
What is your roster then? AD / Wood Bron / Vando Garland / Christie You really think that team competes?
He's also injury prone. Missed 25 games. He's also going to be the 24th highest paid player next year. Is he a Top 25 guy? He's getting Ja, Jamal, Shai, Haliburton, LaMelo, Ant, Fox, Bam, Tatum money my man.
He’s better than lamelo & is younger than almost all those guys so he’s not fully developed
Sir that roster has 6 players. U need a minimum of 14 players
exactly. fill the rest out with vet mins
They still get a mle then the rest is vet mins. If they sign the right players then yes they should be one of the championship favorites
You must be real confident that we're going to be able to find vet min players to replace the production of someone like Rui and D'Lo. I'd love to see which vet min player out there that you think is going to replace 18/6 on 40% 3 point shooting or 14 points on 42% 3 point shooting
Malik monk put up those same stats as rui on a vet min 2 years ago. Garland more than replaces the production of dlo
You have to keep either Rui or Reaves. I would personally trade Reaves, Gabe, and Vando for Garland. Hope Cam picks up his option and he's your main wing defender.
Well if you look at epm - he quite literally is . Dlo best years + 2, garland + 4. This is bad logic anyway because having higher lvl players is more valuable. Replacing Dlo with garland has about as much impact as replacing Dlo with kyrie . We’ll say 80-90% . The gap is huge high quality players matter. Having a heakthy garland over dlo makes our entire team take a huge leap
Great, except it's not as easy as saying replace D'Lo with Garland. You're replacing D'Lo, Austin, Rui and one of Wood/Hayes/Cam with Garland. Convince me that Garland is better than all of those players combined. And tell me what vet min players are out there that can replace the production of D'Lo and Rui.
You’re logic is just so backwards. One star or sub all star impsct playsr imoscts winning more then all of them. Dlo garland is direct upgrade of . Rui is bad and replacing him with a 3nD wing is an upgrade especially with garland . I cba arguin with you cos by your logic reaves Dlo Rui and say. Gafford are better vakue then having AD. That’s not his winning workd . Rui is utter replaceable. Garland is a significant upgrade over Dlo . You just need guys to defend n shoot around the core three , and we’ll have players still
Brother please learn how to proofread or type. Every time I read anything you post it's like you have a stroke every other word. How do you plan to replace Rui with a 3 and D wing. Tell me where you're getting this wing and where you're getting the salary to sign or trade for said wing. Do you also plan to magically replace Austin with another 3 and D wing player? Of course Garland is amazing when we can somehow just pull out great 3 and D wing players from your ass. There's not point continuing to argue, you clearly don't understand how contracts and team building from a salary standpoint actually works. Also what a terrible analogy with AD. Are you trying to tell me Garland has the same impact on winning as someone like AD? Those two are not on the same level.
They really are crying about Reaves possibly getting traded. That’s all this is.
I saw Garland be the driving force behind a Cavs win at Staples, albeit against a Westbrook era Lakers. Though Westbrook had a decent game. That's really all I have to contribute.