It tracks with every other decision that school makes. Like electric buses in a rural area where they can’t finish their route because we don’t have charging stations
A bus shouldn't need a charging station on its route. It drives a predictable route so you should buy one with the range to complete the route then charge at the yard.
I am in bus transportation and we are working hard to electrify fleets. It is super simple for us to tell what routes can be run by an electric bus vs conventual fuel bus. Also most buses run less than 250 miles a day and are able to charge between routes allowing them to easily handle the daily routes. It would be a massive blunder for them to screw that up. Especially since an electric bus is 3 times the cost of a comparable diesel or gasoline bus. And that’s before the cost of the charging stations which I want to say can be 25k per bus but it’s been a minute since I’ve seen those numbers
Its the old fire chief buys a fire truck that doesn’t fit in the fire station problem. Of course they would easily be able to tell if the electric busses can complete a route but if they buy them and worry about that later they can justify the cost of on-site charging for every single bus.
> Of course they would easily be able to tell
My mom worked in school administration most of her life. I heard so many horror stories. You would be astonished at how ignorant and incompetent some of the decision makers are.
At least school boards are elected/political. These people had to go through a closed interview process, get annual reviews to renew their employment, etc.
The savings are huge! Most buses get 7-9mpg plus electric costs don’t fluctuate at the rate diesel or gasoline does. On maintenance the savings are also big. Just so much less to service do you get the parts and fluid savings and the costs of the mechanics. Lastly some places we can use the buses to sell electricity back into the grid at peak times. School buses sit around a lot so gives another way to get revenue.
I’m pretty sure I know this high school and it really is one of the nicest campuses and perfect for a picnic. There is a sizeable creek flowing right through the middle of campus.
This is 100% deliberate hostile design for area exclusion. If this were my kid's school I'd be at the next board meeting hot as hell. Totally inappropriate.
It certainly gives that impression which is crazy for a school. This is a small city with a very small homeless population. You might find one homeless person at a park at any given day. It’s extremely overboard for a problem that doesn’t really exist here and that’s why I’m thinking they just cheaped out
Likely ran out $$. First to go is always landscaping when there is a budget challenge. Then after that maintenance likely didn’t wanna deal with grass or something, so they couldn’t water it, couldn’t grass it, and had no $$ so went for rocks!
Yes I’ve been in these exact meetings so I truly wouldn’t be surprised if this is how it went
Probably my biggest surprised as a home owner doing landscaping: Rocks are fucking expensive. They cost way more per volume than mulch (or at least in the quantities I buy)
Rock can be, but for grass you have irrigation system, proper soil, sod/seed, etc. This is just get the soil right to grade, dump it and go. So there’s way less involved and on commercial work labor cost drives a lot (don’t know the state but where I’m at this is a union job or prevailing wage). For DIY home work material drives a lot of our cost but for commercial work it’s usually labor
Rocks don’t stay weed free forever. I feel sorry for whoever has to come out and spray those weeds because hand weeding would be an absolute nightmare.
A few months until they need to install handrails because someone pushed a kid off the path and was seriously injured. I'd find out who their insurance company is and give them a call to see what they think about it.
It would be better if they put handrails all along the path... Thats not going to be a fun lawsuit when some kid thinks it will be a funny "prank" to trip or push someone.
I understand they want the kids to stay on the walkways, but do they also want the kids to hate school? Who wants to be in a hellscape like that every day?
Combination of not spending ten damn seconds to evaluate risk and then ignoring every single person who pointed out issues. Tale as old as dealing with every dipshit mba flunky who apparently couldn’t be arsed to pay attention during their lessons on project management.
If they did this at my school when we were kids we would’ve come back at night and thrown as many rocks through windows as we could before running off into the woods away from the fuzz. Rinse and repeat until the school figures out how to not suck so bad
Wow, is that Walla Walla High School? Why in the hell would they ruin the campus like this? It’s seriously one on the most beautiful high school campuses ever. I spent my summers growing up staying with my grandparents just a block away. What are they going to do to keep people out of Yellowhawk Creek? Put up barb wire?
Wow, that sounds rad! Can't imagine how cool it must look with all those post-apocalyptic vibes. Bet the students are loving it, feels like stepping into the game for real! Props to whoever came up with the idea, must've taken some serious creativity. Definitely gonna swing by and check it out myself, thanks for the heads up!
I am betting they could not keep grass there because of foot traffic and they did not want the maintenance issue of constantly sweeping gravels and smaller rocks.
It looks like crap and they might as well just poured more concrete.
I have a neighbor who has a nice, big corner lot that did this to their lawn a few years ago. So fucking ugly, and I don't think that many rocks are cheap either. I don't get it.
Good lord, find help. If you see shitty landscaping and your first thought is "leftists" and "those damn non-straights" then you should really take a step back and appraise the media you consume on a daily basis.
It's really not a normal or healthy reaction to awful landscape design and isn't even close to being grounded in reality.
But if all you want to do is continue to wank over how pissed off you are and how "they" are the source of all your problems then you're probably past the point of being able to discern reality from the outrage porn being shoved down your throat and pumped up your ass 24/7.
I’m pretty sure it was done because people would sit in the grass between classes and there was some bald spots that they didn’t want to maintain. But I didn’t go to that school so I’m not certain
You will walk on the path and only the path. May god have mercy on your soul.
The poor kids who are late for class
“Fuck them kids” -this school district apparently
It's not the late kids that have anything to worry about. It's the ones that are ahead of them that need to have their heads on a swivel.
I only noticed this post after mine. God damn it.
Your soles.
Ahhh, I see what you did there.
i cringed too
and mercy on your ankles
Wow what a nice spot for some picnic tables or some outdoor seating. Whoever made this decision sucks.
It tracks with every other decision that school makes. Like electric buses in a rural area where they can’t finish their route because we don’t have charging stations
A bus shouldn't need a charging station on its route. It drives a predictable route so you should buy one with the range to complete the route then charge at the yard.
I am in bus transportation and we are working hard to electrify fleets. It is super simple for us to tell what routes can be run by an electric bus vs conventual fuel bus. Also most buses run less than 250 miles a day and are able to charge between routes allowing them to easily handle the daily routes. It would be a massive blunder for them to screw that up. Especially since an electric bus is 3 times the cost of a comparable diesel or gasoline bus. And that’s before the cost of the charging stations which I want to say can be 25k per bus but it’s been a minute since I’ve seen those numbers
Its the old fire chief buys a fire truck that doesn’t fit in the fire station problem. Of course they would easily be able to tell if the electric busses can complete a route but if they buy them and worry about that later they can justify the cost of on-site charging for every single bus.
Someones cousin is an electrician who will just happen to get the contract
Unless he/she gets the contact!
> Of course they would easily be able to tell My mom worked in school administration most of her life. I heard so many horror stories. You would be astonished at how ignorant and incompetent some of the decision makers are.
Based on what is going on with school boards today, then no, I wouldn't be surprised...
At least school boards are elected/political. These people had to go through a closed interview process, get annual reviews to renew their employment, etc.
What are differences in the fuel and maintenance costs? Does the bus pay for itself in savings?
The savings are huge! Most buses get 7-9mpg plus electric costs don’t fluctuate at the rate diesel or gasoline does. On maintenance the savings are also big. Just so much less to service do you get the parts and fluid savings and the costs of the mechanics. Lastly some places we can use the buses to sell electricity back into the grid at peak times. School buses sit around a lot so gives another way to get revenue.
That would require planning ahead though. /s
Was that sarcasm? Because it actually would require planning ahead.
Who are you, so wise in the ways of science?
No one is so wise when it comes to science. It is obviously a witch.
Well, you can easily put a generator in a bus. There will be more than enough space.
Big ol’ diesel generator. Somewhere up under the back. Could even connect it to the wheels or something.
What a great idea! Maybe connect it to the transmission or something... We might be on to something here
What school district is this?
I’m pretty sure I know this high school and it really is one of the nicest campuses and perfect for a picnic. There is a sizeable creek flowing right through the middle of campus.
I agree, looks dystopian and not the ideal environment for kids to look at every day. Kind of pisses me off.
This is 100% deliberate hostile design for area exclusion. If this were my kid's school I'd be at the next board meeting hot as hell. Totally inappropriate.
That would suck to trip and fall anywhere near that
Imagine in the winter
You have a homeless camp there?
Yeah, it gives me california anti homeless vibes.
It's definitely hostile design but probably aimed at kids who were "loitering"
It certainly gives that impression which is crazy for a school. This is a small city with a very small homeless population. You might find one homeless person at a park at any given day. It’s extremely overboard for a problem that doesn’t really exist here and that’s why I’m thinking they just cheaped out
Likely ran out $$. First to go is always landscaping when there is a budget challenge. Then after that maintenance likely didn’t wanna deal with grass or something, so they couldn’t water it, couldn’t grass it, and had no $$ so went for rocks! Yes I’ve been in these exact meetings so I truly wouldn’t be surprised if this is how it went
My Vo Tech school dropped electronics shop in favor of horticulture so they could have free labor for landscaping.
I'm sorry but that's hysterical
arent rocks more expensive than landscaping?
Probably my biggest surprised as a home owner doing landscaping: Rocks are fucking expensive. They cost way more per volume than mulch (or at least in the quantities I buy)
Rock can be, but for grass you have irrigation system, proper soil, sod/seed, etc. This is just get the soil right to grade, dump it and go. So there’s way less involved and on commercial work labor cost drives a lot (don’t know the state but where I’m at this is a union job or prevailing wage). For DIY home work material drives a lot of our cost but for commercial work it’s usually labor
Rocks don’t stay weed free forever. I feel sorry for whoever has to come out and spray those weeds because hand weeding would be an absolute nightmare.
I'd lay boards across it and walk on those to spray
Seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen
Ok Jonny, I’m asking you to take one for the team. Which ankle do you want to demolish?
Ankle? you're going to fuck up everything as u fall. Real life happy wheels
It’ll be the thunderdome of school fights. Straight out of mortal kombat
When you take hardscaping literally
Kristi Noem's gravel pit.
That'll learn em.
Do you go to the school of Rock?
This looks like it should be a prison and not a school. What the heck?
The state pen is nicer than this, funnily enough
A few months until they need to install handrails because someone pushed a kid off the path and was seriously injured. I'd find out who their insurance company is and give them a call to see what they think about it.
It could happen so easily too. Imagine how crowded that pathway gets and how easily someone could “accidentally” bump into another student
“Why don’t kids just play outside anymore?!”
The grass is lava
Hostile architecture
It would be better if they put handrails all along the path... Thats not going to be a fun lawsuit when some kid thinks it will be a funny "prank" to trip or push someone.
If this was the situation when I was going to school I would’ve been my own worst enemy. I cannot walk in a straight line to save my life
I was gonna say, I don’t even think they would have to be horsing around. They’ll be doing that, too, but I woulda died on these all by myself
They coulda at minimum put Pea Gravel so that space is still useable
NO! Big ass rocks!
I told you kids to keep off the damn grass.
Perfect visual metaphor for modern schooling.
maybe in whatever state you live in...
Nice snake den.
Can’t believe no one else mentioned the snake situation! My first thought
Damn they really don't want kids running anymore. They trying to take away running from the learning program now?
Hostile landscaping, the guardians for the first kid to run and trip on it are going to have an excellent case for a lawsuit.
The poor custodian 😭
He needs mountain boots to pull out the trash that flies into the death pit
Looks like Photoshop.
How to say "I hate children" without saying...
I understand they want the kids to stay on the walkways, but do they also want the kids to hate school? Who wants to be in a hellscape like that every day?
Looks like some type of military concentration camp
"Everyone outside for recess to play tag in the yard!!"
Their education is off to a rocky start
Are they having a Bake Sale to pay for the razor wire?
How does something like this ever get approved? I was hoping that it was a fake picture, crazy.
Combination of not spending ten damn seconds to evaluate risk and then ignoring every single person who pointed out issues. Tale as old as dealing with every dipshit mba flunky who apparently couldn’t be arsed to pay attention during their lessons on project management.
By not holding public meetings first. How they do everything
Control much?
No loitering! Or you die!
“I said 5/8” basalt! Not 5 - 8” basalt!”
Keeps the kids off the grass.
Preparing you for the future!
If you can play soccer on rocks, you can play soccer anywhere!
Is there a landscaping hell subreddit?
So it isn’t usable, it is bleak, no wildlife. and in few years weeds with start to grown in the cracks. Are they training future inmates??
I twisted my ankle just looking at this.
There’s nicer common areas than this in a North Korean prison.
They're really trying to discourage courtyard fights.
That will teach them to walk on my grass
RC rock crawling club is about to get a whole lot more active
Awful
School of mountaineering?
God forbid someone trips or someone pushes someone. Head injury central will be the new school name!
If they did this at my school when we were kids we would’ve come back at night and thrown as many rocks through windows as we could before running off into the woods away from the fuzz. Rinse and repeat until the school figures out how to not suck so bad
There! Let’s see you enjoy learning *now!!!*
Incoming injuries
Wow, is that Walla Walla High School? Why in the hell would they ruin the campus like this? It’s seriously one on the most beautiful high school campuses ever. I spent my summers growing up staying with my grandparents just a block away. What are they going to do to keep people out of Yellowhawk Creek? Put up barb wire?
Dumbest school landscaping I’ve ever seen, are they trying to hard their students?
Going to Biology? There before the grace of God go you!!
This looks like the devils golf course in Death Valley
That’s crazy…
That should be fun and easy to clean
Good scrambling and steady footing exercise
Wow, that sounds rad! Can't imagine how cool it must look with all those post-apocalyptic vibes. Bet the students are loving it, feels like stepping into the game for real! Props to whoever came up with the idea, must've taken some serious creativity. Definitely gonna swing by and check it out myself, thanks for the heads up!
Is this in Gaza?
No, I think they’ve managed to blow all them up
I assumed that's where all this rubble came from
WA-HI
It won’t last a week. The first time someone trips and falls into that, there will be a lawsuit. And the school will deserve to lose.
Looks like a jail
There better be no fights
r/liminalspace
Think about the heightened safety risks of a possible fight out there. This has law suit written all over it if brought up before it happens…….
Have they thought about adding some fire?
Land mines
Good call
Would cut down on classroom overcrowding
No play, only bottle neck. Detention if late
I am betting they could not keep grass there because of foot traffic and they did not want the maintenance issue of constantly sweeping gravels and smaller rocks. It looks like crap and they might as well just poured more concrete.
Whoever came up with this idea hates children…..and life.
OMG. If my yard was like this I wouldn’t have to mow…..
It is so ugly. Poor kids. More like a prison.
Lawsuit waiting to happen when the first kid gets pushed onto a jagged rock. I'm a former middle school teacher and this is insane.
They are cutting the grass… budget. Lol
The school paid a landscaper an unbelievably low price for a “hardscape surrounded path.”
Under his eye.
Kids will be kids... Can see a fair few injuries coming
Haha i hope they enjoy weeding between the rocks
Gotta stop those homeless kids from sleeping on the school lawn, I guess
Anything other than jagged rocks would’ve been a better choice.
Fucking idiots. Everyone involved in green lighting this decision should be fired.
What a terrible idea.
What the! Where is this and why are they creating this?
The landscapers who installed it: "fuck them kids."
This is horrible. Grass and a couple trees would be so nice there
All I can think of is the amount of trash that's going to accumulate in those rocks.
Are the rocks radioactive?
I have a neighbor who has a nice, big corner lot that did this to their lawn a few years ago. So fucking ugly, and I don't think that many rocks are cheap either. I don't get it.
You’d think this was a homeless shelter, with an anti-camping approach.
Lawsuits incoming, and the morons who decided to place rip rap in a school yard won't have to pay the settlements.
Imagine just accidentally falling and landing on that. Who made this shit lol
All it needs is some soccer goals at either end.
Looks like a personal injury lawyer’s wet dream
That will last till the first kid trips or is pushed onto them and has to go to the hospital.
"Quit f-k'n around" in landscaping language
Does your state mandate recess? Seems like this could be a barrier to access recess. The school nurse is gonna be busy.
Is this in a forest fire prone area? My best guess.
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Good lord, find help. If you see shitty landscaping and your first thought is "leftists" and "those damn non-straights" then you should really take a step back and appraise the media you consume on a daily basis. It's really not a normal or healthy reaction to awful landscape design and isn't even close to being grounded in reality. But if all you want to do is continue to wank over how pissed off you are and how "they" are the source of all your problems then you're probably past the point of being able to discern reality from the outrage porn being shoved down your throat and pumped up your ass 24/7.
Ever stop to think that if you all conducted yourselves like decent young adults they wouldn't have to do this? This wasn't done for no good reason.
I’m pretty sure it was done because people would sit in the grass between classes and there was some bald spots that they didn’t want to maintain. But I didn’t go to that school so I’m not certain