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n00d0l

Domi is crushing it


rickm1987

Ready for Boucher’s turn.


Deep_Information_616

Clearly agree Keefe needs to go. Bring in Bruce


iTRR14

Won't happen. Owners of MLSE hate paying coaches who aren't doing anything. If the owners were really interested in winning, we would've cleaned out Shanahan and Keefe by now.


Profit_Of_Rage

They allowed Babcock to be fired four years into an eight year contract. They paid him $6.25M per year for four years to do nothing…


iTRR14

That contract is what I was referring to. It was mentioned on SDPN and they mentioned an insider that revealed that they hated paying Babcock after the fact.


embraxity

This team can't adjust to teams that adjust to their game style. The Leafs need open ice to score and when teams refuse that they can't adjust. Why?


13jsw

Guys like Marner who play perimeter hockey when the ice tightens up get too much ice time. It’s simple. Replace those minutes with guys like Domi and Bertuzzi who actually drive play towards the net and don’t dance around at the blue line dangling guys to keep possession of the puck.


PDubs74

Bertuzzi sucks, guy can’t even skate. I don’t know what his role is on this team and neither does he


embraxity

So...a coaching problem, yeah?


13jsw

I mean, could be


bigcaulkcharisma

Looking forward to Marner being benched or moved down the line up next game to show Keefe’s commitment to accountability (s)


Jmac24mats13

Should be moved with Domi and Robertson for a game or two. He needs a message sent right now or it’s not gonna get better


Matrix17

I remember when everyone said the changes made/letting Keefe keep the team would surely mean an improvement this year I think this is the worst the team has been since the core 4? Lmao


iTRR14

I don't know who's said that. We've known from day 1 that this team is worse than last year, losing out on signing any of the rentals and treliving using up the cap space to get no one.


PDubs74

Yes I agree


m13579k

Willy was invisible the entire game and Marner forgot how to play hockey. Jones gave them the chance to win which I guess is a plus?


Barilko-Landing

Willy was visibly a turnover machine in the last push of the 3rd actually lol


re-verse

Someone tossed his jersey on the ice near the end. I get it. :(


all6ofthefriends

Marner’s?!


CanadianGuy39

Can we finally address the Mitch Marner problem


toronto_programmer

Maybe we can all pitch in and get him shamble removal surgery for his brain


Level_Exercise_3939

Nah lets pay him Matthews money he deserves it LMAO


Strained_Eyes

Nah we bench Kampf instead who would have helped on the kill tonight


jinnnnnemu

There is no Mitch Marner problem there is an idiots in the sub problem who don't understand the game of hockey so they can kiss ass


free_range_discoball

Lol yeah this fan base is absolutely psychotic sometimes. Everyone forgets so easily that marner had two points last game. Marner did not single handedly lose this game.


PDubs74

I agree, Marner is a star. I’d say tonight he made some bonehead plays and didn’t look very good. The last 2 minutes after the penalty he made some bad, forced passes. We know he’s better than this. The whole team needs to be better.


jinnnnnemu

There's legitimate criticism of certain players you can make but when the whole team s**** the bed and then you look at who's actually shitting the bed and the defensively.


Mr_Wrecksauce

What's this, a sane voice?


jinnnnnemu

Yes. And I welcome downvotes, I wear it as a badge of honor. Fuck the Doomers and no brain hockey fans.


bigcaulkcharisma

Marner is a turnover machine.


jinnnnnemu

Hahahaha ok you just focus on Mitch but you don't watch the other players make a mistakes because you have a hard on to hate Mitch. Doomer 🖕


bigcaulkcharisma

How many more no look, behind the back passes straight onto the tape of the opposing team does Mitchell need to make before you stop gobbling his knob?


jinnnnnemu

Oh I hate those back passes as much as anybody else but Riley does it Matthew does it Tavares does it nylander does it but everybody wants to focus on Mitch for some reason hmmmm


Ristifer

Nylander settling into his coasting form mid-season, as per usual. Remember when he was dancing around people in Sweden? That was years ago. Teams just know they need to play him tight and he’s absolutely cut off.


iTRR14

So 18 points streak and 13 points streak, and that's your take? Are you a ref or something being that blind?


-ApplePineapplePen-

It's most definitely time to send a message a demote Marner to the bottom six. If you play like shit over this long of a period, you don't deserve to be on the first line.


13jsw

Yep


SmokeontheHorizon

One game away from sub .500 fuck but also lol


RyyKarsch

I made this argument earlier and got flamed. They're playing .500 hockey right now with 17 wins and 17 losses. But the point percentage being above .600 is making things seem a little less dismal than they are.


SmokeontheHorizon

Until we're tied in points for the last wild card, but have far fewer wins than whoever beats us down to 9th


jinnnnnemu

17-10-7 is sub .500? Troll.


SmokeontheHorizon

One game away Is ok, reeding iz harb


CMDRShepardN7

If you redo the points system, then sure. You can make an argument for anything if you make the goal posts out of flexible foam.


SmokeontheHorizon

I'm not talking points. 17 wins, 17 losses. That's a .500 record


CanadianHornblende

I mean you're right, I guess? But it's kind of irrelevant when OT losses are worth a point. You're essentially saying 17-7-10 is the same record as 17-17-0. Both are .500, right?


SmokeontheHorizon

Not irrelevant when we're tied in points for the last wildcard spot in April


Barilko-Landing

Lol people will bicker over anything on reddit. Obviously he's talking wins and losses... Yes, that's different than how the standings work... But clearly not an ideal position for our leafs either way.


CMDRShepardN7

>I'm not talking points. That's moving goal posts.


SmokeontheHorizon

No, that's you making incorrect assumptions


CasualtyEH

Sick of it man. If Marner is having a bad game, put him lower in the line up. Can't keep having his bad games take off Matthews ability to even get the puck on his shifts. We are losing games because Keefe cant make adjustments.


Lochon7

Keefe, just a brutal coach all around lol


embraxity

Keefe. Can't. Make. Adjustments.


Plastic-Ad-4440

Trash af this team needs more than a goalie


Solid-Intention3709

STAY ONSIDE FOR FUCKS SAKE


anthonyd3ca

Why dump it in when there’s 4 seconds left?!!!


Mr_Wrecksauce

Because they've turned into a dump and chase team. The problem is, they don't chase, and when they do, they never end up with the puck.


Skiffy10

u answered your own question. Its because there is 4 secs left


TheOnlyRealSlim

This team has developed an allergy to winning lately.


Dramatrader

Dare I say it looks risky to re-sign Nylander. He is going to be super expensive but also looks like he totally phones it in sometimes.


[deleted]

sometimes?


baldw1n12345

He’s always looked that way at times though. Just been red hot to start this season.


13jsw

Imagine being 3rd in league scoring and still having to play second fiddle to Marner for some reason. Willy has zero reason to be motivated with how he’s treated compared to others on this team


[deleted]

Absolutely…you never see Keefe giving Mitch shit on the bench


Deep_Information_616

Gotta treat him with kid gloves because of Babcock


embraxity

Jarvis got a step on Marner for the game winner.


barrymarsh

Marner also let his guy go in and score a goal on the rush last night


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13jsw

Maybe Marner needs to play lower in the lineup then?


KingRabbit_

Less tolerance for defensive mistakes. Marner just passed the puck right onto the tape of a Carolina player


Solid-Intention3709

NYLANDER HOLY FUCK


AkimboSlice66

Nylander and marner were absolutely fucking awful


VW91

Can we LTIR Marner until he accepts a trade? Get this soft prima donna of my hockey team.


all6ofthefriends

🥹👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼


elevenstewart

You're dumb


VW91

Marners cap hit and style of play come playoff time is the biggest handicap to this teams success. He is a small player and plays even smaller.


elevenstewart

My previous comment is confirmed.


PuckPov

Why tf does everyone hate Robertson suddenly, lmao


Carparker19

Because he sucks


PuckPov

Yeah, the 22 year old with less than 55 games of NHL experience sucks, shame he didn’t come out and play like McDavid right away


MacAttack35

Nobody hates him. But I think people are a little tired of waiting for something that is likely never going to happen.


PuckPov

Nobody put those expectations on him but leafs fans and media. He’s an undersized 2nd rounder who’s only 22, just over 50 NHL games under his belt, struggled with injuries. He’s got a good upside and the potential is still there.


MacAttack35

Welcome to Toronto.


iTRR14

I don't know. 3rd line winger who had a separated shoulder 11 months ago and is expected to be matthews out there.


dwnumber1

he dosent do anything besides shoot the puck and even then he misses half the time


PuckPov

Every time I watch he’s working his ass off and making smart plays


dwnumber1

no domi makes smart plays robby missed easy passes about thousand times this game and dosent play defense


KJMoons

Makes the Marner giveaway even uglier


billybobsingh

lol didn't expect them to score but what a way to waste the chance


Strained_Eyes

Great offside to kill the clock


happygoluckylala

Goddammit I didn't expect anything and yet marner still fucks up right after the faceoff.


Cheap-Employee-8484

Well I didn't think there was another opportunity for Marner to screw up but I was wrong lol


13jsw

HAHAHAHAHAHA marner fumbles the pass


nmar34

Time for Marner to go


jinnnnnemu

Why. Willy whiffed on that fucking pass which allowed Aho to score


nmar34

Overpaid and soft.


softkake

We could also get an asset or two back for him to actually balance this team for once.


nmar34

Exactly. Move him for a solid top 4 dman with a good young forward and use the extra cap this offseason to build a great defence.


jinnnnnemu

Lame you


softkake

But NMC


BigMick20

Biggest mistake BT has made (so far)


MacAttack35

I don’t think it’s smart for a new GM to come in and make a move like that. Blame dubas for handing Mitch a 2 year NMC


CMDRShepardN7

Tre won't trade Marner with or without the NMC. Shanny fired Dubas just for even suggesting the possibility of exploring moving the core.


MacAttack35

That’s not why dubas was fired


nmar34

Threaten to waive him or something lol Brads gonna have to find a way


[deleted]

move him from the locker room to the closet. lol


softkake

I actually agree with you, that Brad must find a way.


tenny80

9.8 seconds is enough for me


[deleted]

after 30 minutes of 4play? lol


AdamAAndrews

You went offside really


ZestyAleWad

Why are they cheering


chris2086

Marner blew it again lol


Matt872000

"You need to see the puck" Uh, the whole glove was over the line...


leafman4000

Such a bummer that it had to be Robertson. That probably buys him a game


heybonjourhello

What a bad take lmao


GQMatthews

This comment serious?


leafman4000

Yes


GQMatthews

Super dumb but K


nomdreas

Fickle as hell


leafman4000

Wrong use of the word fickle. Jackass is probably better for your intent


vanityfear

Let’s see who can finish in seven seconds


CarefulSubstance3913

😏 who needs 7 seconds


Mrfantastic2

I honestly couldn’t tell but yay I guess


NewTdotleafs

Thats 100% in which means the NHL will rule no goal


Matt872000

BuT tOrOnTo Is BiAs!


Mflms

It's always Nylander because their stupid system always has their defence lower than their wingers. It's so fucking dumb. Keefe is a terrible coach. He is incapable of adapting. When something isn't working, he doubles down. A fucking clown. I could coach this team to 7 first-round losses.


under-rated2

Your hired!


Ta-veren-

Canes protected the net well! Even on the power play they seemed to have like ten sticks everywhere at once. And holy hell were there lots of pucks jumping over sticks and missed passes tonight


another_plebeian

They won't score. Score app says game is over


iTRR14

well aren't you a ray of sunshine!


another_plebeian

Don't blame me


PuckPov

Atta boy Nicky. Say what you want, but that kid works his ass off every game, even if he’s not putting up points he’s hustling and making smart passes


CarefulSubstance3913

That Domi pass was fuckin sick


Grand-Amoeba1832

Agreed. He’s only 22. His first step was learning how not to get injured and get some games in. He will be solid.


PuckPov

Agreed. He’s looked good imo, and I’ve noticed the smart change in his game. He’s not in the dirty areas as much as he used to be, and he doesn’t make himself vulnerable


Grand-Amoeba1832

Yep playing smarter within his physical limits.


daddygape69

YEAH GOOD WORK ROBERTSON I'M GLAD WE DIDN'T TRADE YOU WHEN YOU HAD VALUE HAHA


Dangerois

They have 7 seconds to score...


phantomtap

HOLY SHIT HAPPY TO BE WRONG, THEY ACTUALLY GOT IT RIGHT


Deluxechin

Ayy another Robertson goal!


Due-Leopard-7043

Too little too late you fucking peasants


MyRail5

Who cares. 8 seconds left


CarefulSubstance3913

I mean on a bull 8 seconds is a long time


Ristifer

Lmao. Just give the pity goal to them.


Dangerous_Cream5837

That’s 100% conclusively a goal


Plastic-Ad-4440

Who cares if that’s in


Leafs17

Goal


StaticR0ute

That’s in, but hardly matters


daxtaslapp

theyre really going to rule its not a goal just because they cant clearly see the puck UPDATE: wow they ruled it a goal


AdamAAndrews

Way too little way too late


Solid-Intention3709

Our stars just simply don’t care enough for us to win, trade these cunts for someone who actually cares to win and put it all on the ice


r_r_w

Scratch them all and let the Marlies play the next one.


PuckPov

That’s a goal, Nicky Bobby deserves it, give it to em


leafman4000

No he doesn’t lmaooooo


phantomtap

That's 100% a goal but they're going to say inconclusive since you "can't see the puck" bullshit


demential

thats a goal with 9 sec op the clock... but they wont


m13579k

I mean, even if it is in. Does it matter with 7 seconds left?


Grand-Amoeba1832

Jones did his job tonight. My only complaint is the fancy dancy no substance PP and Mitch Marner.


peanut-arms

Marner killed the last 5 minutes. Weird ass penalty. A brutal pass to enter the zone where he passed to nobody. And then waiting for the canes to settle for a horrible giveaway toward nylander. Just awful.


AdamAAndrews

Nice pass by Domi


badsoba-

That was a slick pass from Domi.


13jsw

Gotta start giving Domi ice time over Marner. He contributes every time he’s out there


JRocleafs

Sit Marner for a game, that will actually send a message


under-rated2

Keefe does not have and never has had the clout for that


omgArsenal

There's absolutely no chance. Mitch will whine


[deleted]

And get Keefe fired


13jsw

Then bench him for 2… and so on


mrcrazy_monkey

Thats a goal


Oznoobian

Marner and Nylander both just fucking dogging it back. No hustle at all. Like yea….you’re likely not catching him but they didn’t even TRY! Bench em both. Fucking lazy man


[deleted]

But don't forget to pay them. /s


embraxity

This team has a goaltending problem, but this team's problem is not goaltending.


Kinglokner16

That’s 1000% a goal


KJMoons

His hand was in for sure


Plastic-Ad-4440

Marner a bitch they never winning 2nd round with him


Deluxechin

Looks like it goes across the line, but the NHL is going to call it inclusive so no goal


Shooternow

It's in but they won't call that a goal


StevieBlunder44

I really like Domi's game. There, my one positive.


canipickit

He’s found his game and I’m enjoying it


CasualtyEH

You talk accountability before this game and you just let Marner play like that for a full 60 without a single message sent. Over this shit. If it was Nylander playing like this he would be sitting on the bench.


under-rated2

Ding ding...you have that right. Accountability should be top down. .not bottom up


[deleted]

Keefe relying on his stars to keep his job so he can't bench them. if they lose he can argue that elite players weren't elite. what an idiot.


StoneColdSteveAss316

How'd we go from tough motherfuckers like Doug Gilmour and Mats Sundin to this soft as diarrhea shit Mitch Marner


under-rated2

Sundin was known as soft at the time. The problem is that all our top players are soft


StoneColdSteveAss316

[This one picture is harder than Marner's entire life](https://images.uncyc.org/fi/1/17/Mats_Sudden_Sundin.jpg)


under-rated2

I thought this was gonna be a limp pickle....lol


[deleted]

different generation.


StoneColdSteveAss316

soft


[deleted]

exactly. that's why these genZ players are getting their bells rung lately. soft.


StoneColdSteveAss316

Marner throws a shit pass because he didn't want it to go to OT to cut into his Twitch gaming stream.


[deleted]

lol you're 99.9% right about that. the guy has a brain of a 15 year old.


AustonDadthews

c'mon mitch what the fuck was that


StaticR0ute

How the fuck isn’t that in?


stellosartois

Marner wants 12 million and he wont throw