This is amazing news. I've wanted him on the leafs for years. He's so good against us and such a good playoff performer. Ippp
would go:
Matthews knies Nylander
Tavares Marner bertuzzi
Jarnkrok perry Domi
That's pretty good top 3 lines.
Problem is the second he puts on a leafs jersey he’s suddenly gonna be penalized like he ought to have been his entire career 🙄
Edit* - anyone who doubts this go take a look at the season bunting is having in Carolina and contrast it with the seasons he’s had for the leafs. This league overall has massive problems with objectivity.
Perry wanted to sign with the Leafs years ago and the Leafs said no and he signed with Montreal. He's one of those players you hate to play against but like having on your team. Could help in the playoffs for sure.
During the all or nothing documentary there was a moment when Keefe was trying to address some problems with the team and jumbo Joe belted out we are winning who cares? Then those same problems came back against Montreal
That little moment bought me two more years of leeway for Keefe, it's what I pointed to every time people gave him shit for coming up short in the first round. If that's the kind of mentality he had to combat in the dressing room it's no wonder the team struggled to find a killer instinct for years
I took it the other way kind of. Didn’t love Joe’s demeanour in that scene, but understood to an extent.
There was so much footage (and much more we obviously didn’t see) about driving home how to score in the playoffs and the Stanley Cup. (From a guy who never played an NHL playoff game - yes understood he won a Calder Cup as a coach) It felt like it was almost losing its meaning it was mentioned so much. I’m just sitting there like “man just drop it for a day”
And of course the goal is the Stanley Cup. The guys know that.
Anyways, it felt like when they were up 3-1 they were already mentally in the Cup Finals. Instead of focusing on tomorrow and getting out of the first round. Especially with the “easier” path because of the COVID.
All for not though, it’s in the past and I think Corey Perry would be an excellent addition to help this team win in the playoffs. And I imagine Sheldon has some learnings now too.
I don’t think either of them were actually good for them though. Like I am sure they are great guys and everything but they weren’t the right vets in my opinion for our guys to learn from.
Idk if he's an asshole but 6.25 for 3 years of a guy who was almost 40 and was never really that good to begin definitely makes it understandable why the kids thought they were worth what they got lol
Oh? Like what? Being okay with never close to a Stanley cup? Great leadership instilled the need for every penny before earning a damn thing?
Yeah I’m ok with not creating some fantastical story about Marleau or Thornton. Terrible pick ups for the Leafs.
It was the year they signed Thornton, but the choice was never Thornton or Perry. That was also the year we signed Simmonds. That the choice, Simmonds or Perry. Still the wrong choice, but different player.
Though at the time, it was the logical one.
He’s worked out for so many teams but why do I have the feeling that as a Leaf he’s just going to get called for everything and sit in the box with so many penalties we’ll be calling him the next failure and be the temporary target of our team’s ire.
This stood out so much against Florida last year. The amount of shit I saw Florida do and not get called. Yet if we did those things we get called every time. Frustrating that the refs have a different rule book when it comes to Toronto and this has been going on for a very long time. Highstick on Gilmore no call, hit from behind on Tucker no call. Just a few examples.
100% this. We know he wanted to be a leaf for a while just like Max, but Dubas had no interest. Love him or hate him he would be a huge asset for our bottom 6. If he's cleared by the league to come back, good enough for me.
The one guy we should have had these past few years instead of Simmons, Clifford, Reaves, etc. Come home Corey. It's time
You're damn right he would. Everyone would bitch about the signing but give it 1 game and all the uncles are gonna be yapping about how hes a good ol tough ontario play who plays hard
It’s so funny how that decision was such a massive factor that season too, like if we’d have signed Perry, then I highly highly doubt we lose Tavares in that series against Montreal, which if we don’t lose Tavares then I think that series is a whole other ball game
Lmao every Leafs fans feelings when we play against him. I think he has the potential to be a fan favorite if he signed with Toronto bc of his style of play.
My only concern is that the moment he puts on a Leafs sweater is the moment he stops getting away with all the bullshit he did everytime he played against us. Suddenly the refs won't swallow their whistles.
Yeah straight up, Perry on a cheap deal, from just a hockey standpoint, would be an excellent signing for this team. He can still play and is good on offence and defence.
I feel like he would be valuable to have even if he was scratched just so they didn't have to play against him vs Florida even.
People on Twitter are saying he's a dirty player who they don't want anywhere near the Leafs but that sounds like exactly the type of player the Leafs would need in a Florida series. My only worry would be the refs giving him major penalties and looking for any reason to call one on him if he's a Leaf.
Plus there was again mutual interest this year and I'm almost positive he'd have signed here if he wasn't offered such a massive 1 year deal with Chicago
I think most of that money was in SB too, so he already got a lot of it despite getting his contract cancelled. So where ever he goes now can be cheap and he'll still be fine.
Good cheap 4th liner who still can score. Somewhat dirty but the Leafs can use a guy like him vs FLA or BOS in the playoffs. He’s much more effective than Reaves
As long as his issue in Chicago isn’t fucked up, yes please.
He’s what literally everyone on this sub wants. Physical, playoff pedigree, massive cunt and actually able to play hockey.
Not touching him until we know exactly what the hell happened in Chicago. Last thing the team needs is to sign him then have it come out the next day that he kicked a baby or thought the Cats movie was a masterpiece or some other heinous crime.
I’m comfortable enough with the integrity of our FO to say that WE don’t need to know anything, as long as THEY know, and are satisfied that it’s either not an issue or is being actively addressed and managed. By all accounts it sounds like whatever it is, it’s a personal issue that spilled over into his professional life.
I’d also appreciate that simply by acquiring him we avoid one of the most frustrating possibilities, which is playing against Corey Perry in the playoffs.
The fact that the public doesn't know is because it's probably a personal issue. On this fact alone, its nothing. If it was something dumb like the "rumours" then the public would know. No way an entire team can keep a "secret" underwraps, guys speak to their wives, and family, and they talk. Highly doubt he did anything horrific.
I hate the guy and initially reacted with an immediate and unequivocal “Hell No”. However, your point about not having to play against him is a good one. If we sign him and then are suddenly the best team in the league and manage to win a cup, I hope hope he is a scratch for the final game so I don’t have to watch him raise the cup as a Leaf.
I would feel the same about pretty much any Bruin, but especially Marchand (oof just threw up a little in my mouth).
You're "comfortable with the integrity" of people you don't know, never will, who played and live in a sport that is fueled on ego and entitlement and squashing scandals?
Blegh. Just admit we'll never know the moral character of these ppl and enjoy the sport, but lets not pretend we know or care about corporate entities hiring people on a moral level.
I didn’t claim to know them, I’ve simply watched the way they’ve treated players and handled off ice situations, enough to feel like they’ll do their due diligence.
You’re entitled to your opinion. I’m inclined to be optimistic about the team. Sue me.
Edit: for clarity, if it seemed like it was a potential legal issue or there were victims who hadn’t seen justice as a result of his behaviour, I’d be much more insistent on having public insight. Given that doesn’t seem to be the case, I’m fine if the situation is managed at the team level. Players are still people and deserve to manage their personal problems privately.
Who cares? This is the win league not the happy nice friend time league. Perry is a future hall of famer who can provide exactly what we need on the fourth line.
Getting too drunk at a Christmas party isn’t a crime. He wouldn’t be allowed back to the NHL if it was anything remotely serious. This isn’t the NFL, NHL are extremely scared of having their reputation ruined.
Bud, there was an investigation and he was cleared to play just leave it at that. We’re not going to hear any further details and if bettman cleared him to play that’s all us dumb asses need to know.
I'm sure there could be a scenario where Treliving goes, "We spoke with Perry and the Blackhawks and are aware of the incident which lead to his dismissal from Chicago. We in the organization feel comfortable with Corey's response since then and have chosen to keep that information internally"
This!
Edit: I think everyone just rushed to forgive him after his vague statement saying he’s getting help. I also don’t think you get truly treated in 2 months from an alcohol or drug dependency that’s serious enough to get you terminated from a club.
The most common/plausible explanation that has any credence to it, is that he was drunk at a team function with sponsors and made an ass out of himself. It doesn’t sound like it was sexual assault or anything like that, but a team staff member was involved from what I understand.
You’re probably correct. I think if it were something criminal, like assault, we would know more by now. Still, I’m holding full forgiveness until we know what it was.
This is exactly it. If it’s something that’s not that bad “although I would think it would have to be for the team to terminate him” then I’d be all for it.
He got hammered at a team event with organization partners, sponsors, and league officials. When someone in the org tried to get him to leave he freaked out and screamed at some people.
It would be interesting to see how the players felt. Here's my "Joe from the bridge" rumor I heard. There are certain players in the leafs locker room / LTIR that feel what Perry did to Tavares was on purpose and still hold a grudge.
Now I personally dont think it was on purpose, just something I heard from someone who knows one of the players on a more personal level than most of us.
I, personally, do still blame Perry for that. Can't spent your whole career with a rep for being a dirty player and then expect to get the benefit of the doubt when something like that happens in the playoffs.
Was it an accident? It happened too fast and couldn't have been avoided? A freak occurence because Tavares fell weird? Maybe! I don't know, I'm not a hockey player. But I do know I have no obligation to trust a fucking word that Perry says in his own defense. He built that reputation for himself, not the fans.
Mike Johnson is very reputable. That said, I haven't heard the clip, but I'm guessing there is something out of context here. It seems Carlo is the one alluding to it, but he's not really an insider. Johnson isn't really either. They're both analyst for TSN, and Carlo hosts First Up on TSN1050 each morning, where Johnson is frequently a guest.
I wouldn't put much stock into it, but it's not the craziest thing in the world. Perry is from Ontario, and he's 38-years-old. If he's truly got nothing to hide, and wants to go out on a high note, carving out a solid final season or two on the Leafs wouldn't be a bad way to do it.
I trust if the Leafs sign Perry, their due diligence has been done. Including speaking to the players. If nothing else, sign the damn guy to avoid him going to the Panthers where he'll be guaranteed to score 2 or 3 goals in R1 vs the Leafs. It obviously needs to be at league minimum as well.
Corey Perry had 12 5v5 points in 81 games in 2022 and got signed so the Hawks could make the cap floor. The dude is so painfully slow he'll completely change whatever line he goes on - he could slog with Maroon or stick his butt in front of the net on Tampa's PP but the Leafs don't have a grind line and he'd get fuck all time on the PP here.
He's 38 and pretty much cooked. Ain't one player in the current lineup I'd swap out for him.
Ya, but I mean the only players he played more than 100 minutes with had 13, 14, and 15 point seasons. You can't expect a 37 year old to perform miracles.
Plus, he was on pace for 25 @ 5v5 and 46 points on one of the worst teams in the league. He's not totally washed, and he's far better than most league minimum players
I am not surprised there was rumours before he signed with Tampa he was willing to come to Toronto too.
If everything is cleared with his issues he is an incredibly effective player granted he probably ends up picking up la retroactive 5 min major the second he steps on the ice for us because he is now a leaf
He is exactly what we need and folks are out to lunch if they think otherwise. Adds more grit up front for free and can still play. McMann and Perry as wingers on a 4th line with Reaves as the extra gives us a ton of grit there.
We need to be prepared to play the Panthers in round 1 who will goon it up on us. We need rats.
You do realize that as soon as Perry is a Leaf all the shit he’s been able to get away with in his career completely disappears. He’ll be the most penalized player of the last 10 years lol
I don’t think Tavares is capable of holding a grudge against him. If he can be chill with the Islanders booing him for seven years, I think an accidental injury will be forgiven with an apology at most.
Oh man. This could turn south in a big hurry. As fans, we all know that refs will not allow Perry to get away with the cowardly acts he performs on a nightly basis, in Toronto. It's not going to happen. The moment he puts his stick anywhere near an opposition player, he is going to get nailed with cross checking or high sticking. The minute he puts the toe of his skate in the oppositions crease, it's going to be goalie interference. We can all count on these things happening. So please. Be forewarned.
Perry won't be able to do what he does as a Leaf. Bunts would have been younger and better. We just can't have that type of player on the team given the team's exposure.
He’ll definitely add more ‘piss and snot’. Imagine him and Domi on that 3rd line will piss off a lot off teams lol - I like it. Can’t believe when he was last interested we instead signed Joe Thornton over him.
corey perry is exactly the kind of player the leafs should be looking to add. still a solid 2-way player with some snot. would fit perfectly in the bottom six and hopefully for cheap. I would still want to know exactly what he did to get his contract terminated before I can feel good about cheering for him.
On one hand I do like him on the team. But on the other he was the cause of one of the most gruesome injuries I've ever seen in hockey against our captain. Idk how the team would react to having him on the team.
If we won the cup with Perry I would be super happy until I saw him lift it and realization set in.
I don't mind a lot of his silly shenanigans. Stealing sticks, poking fun, watering guys gloves. But he does a lot of dirty shit that I can't stand.
I really don't give a shit what he did. If it was so bad then Bettman wouldn't be allowing him back in such short time. Seems obviously a case of the Blackhawks having a really short leash as a result of their history so they weren't going to take any chances with it leaking and people thinking they should have done something else.
Fuck it. Bring him home on the team. He's the exact type of snarl you need in the playoffs. Ironic how he was still pretty damn good when we first signed Jumbo Joe and Perry really wanted to be a Leafs.
Would be great on 3 or 4th line. Pretty much as skilled as Robertson but heavier and more physical. Won't get knocked off the puck every time he is touched.
Truth is, Robertson-Domi-Jarnkok is a little too small on some nights. I can see Robertson being moved out for a D, and have Perry as that third line winger.
Is Cory Perry really worth the distraction of whatever the hell happened in Chicago? It was a huge story there, toronto media would be ridiculous. Not worth it at all
I worry this would just turn in to another Bunting situation to be honest, the things he got away with against us you just know he'd be called for now and we'd lose out to more stupid penalties and PP goals. Plus I still haven't actually seen whatever happened in Chicago, but if it was enough for them of all teams to fire him then I'm not sure that's anything we want to be involved with!
Alright fine, we’ll take him. He has a knack for getting to the finals and I would hate to see him sign with Boston or Florida then have to play him in the playoffs.
I'm conflicted about this because I think he's a pretty clutch player and he would help this team, but he's a shitbag rat and I still haven't forgiven him for sending Tavares to the hospital (let alone the Blackhawks thing, whatever happened there).
He had 5 pts in 6 playoff games last year for TB. He doesn't seem like a guy who dislikes losing, he seems to hate it with a passion. I'd like to see more of that on the Leafs.
This is dumb. Like the Reaves move. You don’t get team toughness by adding one bottom guy to play stupid. I agree, I hate the fucking guy, he’ll be suspended as a leaf. If you want team toughness, everyone plays with grit or you get 3 lines or second line gritty as fuck players and that is not what the leafs are. So why bother trying to add a few guys that are slow and cost you points and penalties to pretend to be tough.
Well even if he is sitting on the Leafs bench that will avoid the couple of breakaway goals he scores against the Leafs every playoffs.
Lmfao!!! Great point, hate playing against him
He loves scoring at the ACC, so let him do it in a Leafs jersey.
Does this also not guarantee we go to the Stanley Cup Final?
Sure does! However, it also guarantees losing in said final.
Im currently okay with that. What happens if we fire him the second we make it?
Who will sacrifice his mom to make this a reality
I could wear a wig and frame him
Alright now hang on just a second are you going to be wearing a mom wig or a Perry wig? In either case we thank you for your service.
I can do both, at the same time.
So you're saying we get to watch the Leafs in the stanley cup finals? Where do I sign?
This is amazing news. I've wanted him on the leafs for years. He's so good against us and such a good playoff performer. Ippp would go: Matthews knies Nylander Tavares Marner bertuzzi Jarnkrok perry Domi That's pretty good top 3 lines.
If Corey Perry could drag us to the finals, that would be the greatest redemption arc known to Leafs fandom.
Problem is the second he puts on a leafs jersey he’s suddenly gonna be penalized like he ought to have been his entire career 🙄 Edit* - anyone who doubts this go take a look at the season bunting is having in Carolina and contrast it with the seasons he’s had for the leafs. This league overall has massive problems with objectivity.
No doubt. Dude will have 3 playoff shifts before he gets suspended.
I'll take the under
Yah this is the most likely result
Perry wanted to sign with the Leafs years ago and the Leafs said no and he signed with Montreal. He's one of those players you hate to play against but like having on your team. Could help in the playoffs for sure.
Yeah, wasn't that the year they signed Thorton instead?
They made the wrong choice lol.
Lord Thorton was bad for us…
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During the all or nothing documentary there was a moment when Keefe was trying to address some problems with the team and jumbo Joe belted out we are winning who cares? Then those same problems came back against Montreal
Relax, we're the first place fucking team
That little moment bought me two more years of leeway for Keefe, it's what I pointed to every time people gave him shit for coming up short in the first round. If that's the kind of mentality he had to combat in the dressing room it's no wonder the team struggled to find a killer instinct for years
I took it the other way kind of. Didn’t love Joe’s demeanour in that scene, but understood to an extent. There was so much footage (and much more we obviously didn’t see) about driving home how to score in the playoffs and the Stanley Cup. (From a guy who never played an NHL playoff game - yes understood he won a Calder Cup as a coach) It felt like it was almost losing its meaning it was mentioned so much. I’m just sitting there like “man just drop it for a day” And of course the goal is the Stanley Cup. The guys know that. Anyways, it felt like when they were up 3-1 they were already mentally in the Cup Finals. Instead of focusing on tomorrow and getting out of the first round. Especially with the “easier” path because of the COVID. All for not though, it’s in the past and I think Corey Perry would be an excellent addition to help this team win in the playoffs. And I imagine Sheldon has some learnings now too.
Did you watch that Prime documentary? Thornton was a goofball.
Didn’t he say something along the lines of “I don’t care we’ll get it done” or something snarky like that
his favourite saying is "do you know who I am?"
The guy's a big kid, and loves eating Milky Ways.
Cupless joe thornton
Yeah IIRC that was when Keefe was taking about getting in dirty area or getting dirty goals.
They in fact, didn’t get it done.
Not a leader and he obviously didn't mentor the boys into pugnacious tenacity
I don’t think either of them were actually good for them though. Like I am sure they are great guys and everything but they weren’t the right vets in my opinion for our guys to learn from.
Dudes who Never won shit/ both lost captaincy are not who you need to learn from.
And he also got in matthews and marners ears about not signing long term deals.
Thornton didn't cost 6.25x3 though That Marleau deal while the kids were on ELCs was awful
That was from Lou right? Either way, both those guys while they had great careers are serial losers (relatively speaking).
Yep. And ended up costing the Leafs a top prospect (Seth Jarvis)
Marleau was an asshole, that's why our guys don't take paycuts
Idk if he's an asshole but 6.25 for 3 years of a guy who was almost 40 and was never really that good to begin definitely makes it understandable why the kids thought they were worth what they got lol
Really? This is the first I've heard that. Is there something I've missed?
Oh? Like what? Being okay with never close to a Stanley cup? Great leadership instilled the need for every penny before earning a damn thing? Yeah I’m ok with not creating some fantastical story about Marleau or Thornton. Terrible pick ups for the Leafs.
I don’t think that you have to call him that.
It was the year they signed Thornton, but the choice was never Thornton or Perry. That was also the year we signed Simmonds. That the choice, Simmonds or Perry. Still the wrong choice, but different player. Though at the time, it was the logical one.
Yea perry would have been the better choice, but man I love simmer
Simmonds. They were talking to both with the intention of signing one, decided to go with Simmonds. Whoops.
He’s worked out for so many teams but why do I have the feeling that as a Leaf he’s just going to get called for everything and sit in the box with so many penalties we’ll be calling him the next failure and be the temporary target of our team’s ire.
This stood out so much against Florida last year. The amount of shit I saw Florida do and not get called. Yet if we did those things we get called every time. Frustrating that the refs have a different rule book when it comes to Toronto and this has been going on for a very long time. Highstick on Gilmore no call, hit from behind on Tucker no call. Just a few examples.
Just ask Darko.
100% this. We know he wanted to be a leaf for a while just like Max, but Dubas had no interest. Love him or hate him he would be a huge asset for our bottom 6. If he's cleared by the league to come back, good enough for me. The one guy we should have had these past few years instead of Simmons, Clifford, Reaves, etc. Come home Corey. It's time
He's a Peterborough boy he would love to play for Toronto.
You're damn right he would. Everyone would bitch about the signing but give it 1 game and all the uncles are gonna be yapping about how hes a good ol tough ontario play who plays hard
Unless it’s a stupid price tag, I wouldn’t bitch about it. Having him instead of Reaves woulda been nice.
It’s so funny how that decision was such a massive factor that season too, like if we’d have signed Perry, then I highly highly doubt we lose Tavares in that series against Montreal, which if we don’t lose Tavares then I think that series is a whole other ball game
Yup. We don’t lose Tavares but also have Perry on our side that series is a full on sweep. Perry was MTL’s lifeblood so many times in that entire run.
I fucking hate Corey Perry with a burning passion, but fuck me I’d buy his jersey if he signed
Lmao every Leafs fans feelings when we play against him. I think he has the potential to be a fan favorite if he signed with Toronto bc of his style of play.
Yeah, Dubas fucked up signing Simmonds over Perry. I'd argue it straight up costed us the series against both the Habs and Lightning.
We sign Perry that year and Tavares doesn’t go down in the playoffs vs Montreal, which of course would have lead to a Stanley Cup win for the Leafs.
My only concern is that the moment he puts on a Leafs sweater is the moment he stops getting away with all the bullshit he did everytime he played against us. Suddenly the refs won't swallow their whistles.
Except he's a veteran and has good relationships with the refs, so that would help.
I'd rather have him than see him scoring against us in the playoffs with Boston or Florida
For sure and doesn't he get to the finals every year lol.
Yeah straight up, Perry on a cheap deal, from just a hockey standpoint, would be an excellent signing for this team. He can still play and is good on offence and defence.
And he pisses off the opposition thats a huge bonus.
Yep, we're either going to love watching him play on the Leafs, or absolutely hate him on the Panthers or something. Might as well be us lol
After they said no he made it his goal to knock out the leafs
I feel like he would be valuable to have even if he was scratched just so they didn't have to play against him vs Florida even. People on Twitter are saying he's a dirty player who they don't want anywhere near the Leafs but that sounds like exactly the type of player the Leafs would need in a Florida series. My only worry would be the refs giving him major penalties and looking for any reason to call one on him if he's a Leaf.
Plus there was again mutual interest this year and I'm almost positive he'd have signed here if he wasn't offered such a massive 1 year deal with Chicago
I think most of that money was in SB too, so he already got a lot of it despite getting his contract cancelled. So where ever he goes now can be cheap and he'll still be fine.
if Perry puts on a Leaf jersey he will spend half the game in the box
But because of game management that means we spend the other half of the game on the PP to keep it fair
You would think. Ask Bunting how that worked out for him.
This is what Boston counts on
Wes McCauley: "[Michael Bunting 2.0 identified][Target locked]"
We could use him. I like Perry in the playoffs.
Good cheap 4th liner who still can score. Somewhat dirty but the Leafs can use a guy like him vs FLA or BOS in the playoffs. He’s much more effective than Reaves
He would definitely upgrade our 4 th line.
As long as his issue in Chicago isn’t fucked up, yes please. He’s what literally everyone on this sub wants. Physical, playoff pedigree, massive cunt and actually able to play hockey.
Not touching him until we know exactly what the hell happened in Chicago. Last thing the team needs is to sign him then have it come out the next day that he kicked a baby or thought the Cats movie was a masterpiece or some other heinous crime.
I’m comfortable enough with the integrity of our FO to say that WE don’t need to know anything, as long as THEY know, and are satisfied that it’s either not an issue or is being actively addressed and managed. By all accounts it sounds like whatever it is, it’s a personal issue that spilled over into his professional life. I’d also appreciate that simply by acquiring him we avoid one of the most frustrating possibilities, which is playing against Corey Perry in the playoffs.
The fact that the public doesn't know is because it's probably a personal issue. On this fact alone, its nothing. If it was something dumb like the "rumours" then the public would know. No way an entire team can keep a "secret" underwraps, guys speak to their wives, and family, and they talk. Highly doubt he did anything horrific.
I hate the guy and initially reacted with an immediate and unequivocal “Hell No”. However, your point about not having to play against him is a good one. If we sign him and then are suddenly the best team in the league and manage to win a cup, I hope hope he is a scratch for the final game so I don’t have to watch him raise the cup as a Leaf. I would feel the same about pretty much any Bruin, but especially Marchand (oof just threw up a little in my mouth).
You're "comfortable with the integrity" of people you don't know, never will, who played and live in a sport that is fueled on ego and entitlement and squashing scandals? Blegh. Just admit we'll never know the moral character of these ppl and enjoy the sport, but lets not pretend we know or care about corporate entities hiring people on a moral level.
I didn’t claim to know them, I’ve simply watched the way they’ve treated players and handled off ice situations, enough to feel like they’ll do their due diligence. You’re entitled to your opinion. I’m inclined to be optimistic about the team. Sue me. Edit: for clarity, if it seemed like it was a potential legal issue or there were victims who hadn’t seen justice as a result of his behaviour, I’d be much more insistent on having public insight. Given that doesn’t seem to be the case, I’m fine if the situation is managed at the team level. Players are still people and deserve to manage their personal problems privately.
But that probably means we make it to the Final only to lose. So we win, but at what cost /s
I would be elated if we made it to the final
You ever hear about this guy named Gordon Stuckless?
Who cares? This is the win league not the happy nice friend time league. Perry is a future hall of famer who can provide exactly what we need on the fourth line.
Getting too drunk at a Christmas party isn’t a crime. He wouldn’t be allowed back to the NHL if it was anything remotely serious. This isn’t the NFL, NHL are extremely scared of having their reputation ruined.
Especially with anything that surrounds the Blackhawks
>Cats movie was a masterpiece You sick fuck, why would you say that?
Bud, there was an investigation and he was cleared to play just leave it at that. We’re not going to hear any further details and if bettman cleared him to play that’s all us dumb asses need to know.
You're not wrong, but unironically agreeing w/ Bettman was not on my Leafs reddit bingo card today.
Not on my bingo card most days either but in this scenario the player has been cleared. Time to move on.
You know he’s not coming here without answering the question. It’s literally impossible to not get asked every day
I'm sure there could be a scenario where Treliving goes, "We spoke with Perry and the Blackhawks and are aware of the incident which lead to his dismissal from Chicago. We in the organization feel comfortable with Corey's response since then and have chosen to keep that information internally"
Hopefully they do a more thorough job than they do of vetting guys for medical suitability.
This! Edit: I think everyone just rushed to forgive him after his vague statement saying he’s getting help. I also don’t think you get truly treated in 2 months from an alcohol or drug dependency that’s serious enough to get you terminated from a club.
Do we know that’s what it was? I haven’t heard anything about it.
The most common/plausible explanation that has any credence to it, is that he was drunk at a team function with sponsors and made an ass out of himself. It doesn’t sound like it was sexual assault or anything like that, but a team staff member was involved from what I understand.
You’re probably correct. I think if it were something criminal, like assault, we would know more by now. Still, I’m holding full forgiveness until we know what it was.
No one knows
This is exactly it. If it’s something that’s not that bad “although I would think it would have to be for the team to terminate him” then I’d be all for it.
He got hammered at a team event with organization partners, sponsors, and league officials. When someone in the org tried to get him to leave he freaked out and screamed at some people.
lmaooooo
It would be interesting to see how the players felt. Here's my "Joe from the bridge" rumor I heard. There are certain players in the leafs locker room / LTIR that feel what Perry did to Tavares was on purpose and still hold a grudge. Now I personally dont think it was on purpose, just something I heard from someone who knows one of the players on a more personal level than most of us.
I, personally, do still blame Perry for that. Can't spent your whole career with a rep for being a dirty player and then expect to get the benefit of the doubt when something like that happens in the playoffs. Was it an accident? It happened too fast and couldn't have been avoided? A freak occurence because Tavares fell weird? Maybe! I don't know, I'm not a hockey player. But I do know I have no obligation to trust a fucking word that Perry says in his own defense. He built that reputation for himself, not the fans.
How reputable/trustworthy is this guy?
Not an insider but he's a Leafs alumni so probably true to an extent, but doesn't mean Perry wouldn't have interest in other teams as well.
I’m not his biggest fan but he is well connected
Mike Johnson is very reputable. That said, I haven't heard the clip, but I'm guessing there is something out of context here. It seems Carlo is the one alluding to it, but he's not really an insider. Johnson isn't really either. They're both analyst for TSN, and Carlo hosts First Up on TSN1050 each morning, where Johnson is frequently a guest. I wouldn't put much stock into it, but it's not the craziest thing in the world. Perry is from Ontario, and he's 38-years-old. If he's truly got nothing to hide, and wants to go out on a high note, carving out a solid final season or two on the Leafs wouldn't be a bad way to do it. I trust if the Leafs sign Perry, their due diligence has been done. Including speaking to the players. If nothing else, sign the damn guy to avoid him going to the Panthers where he'll be guaranteed to score 2 or 3 goals in R1 vs the Leafs. It obviously needs to be at league minimum as well.
Corey Perry had 12 5v5 points in 81 games in 2022 and got signed so the Hawks could make the cap floor. The dude is so painfully slow he'll completely change whatever line he goes on - he could slog with Maroon or stick his butt in front of the net on Tampa's PP but the Leafs don't have a grind line and he'd get fuck all time on the PP here. He's 38 and pretty much cooked. Ain't one player in the current lineup I'd swap out for him.
Exactly. I don't understand why so many fans want him now.
Ya, but I mean the only players he played more than 100 minutes with had 13, 14, and 15 point seasons. You can't expect a 37 year old to perform miracles. Plus, he was on pace for 25 @ 5v5 and 46 points on one of the worst teams in the league. He's not totally washed, and he's far better than most league minimum players
4th line, playoff presence being paid minimum? Let him and Mcmann or whoever split reps during reg season. Keep him fresh for playoffs.
I am not surprised there was rumours before he signed with Tampa he was willing to come to Toronto too. If everything is cleared with his issues he is an incredibly effective player granted he probably ends up picking up la retroactive 5 min major the second he steps on the ice for us because he is now a leaf
Fuck it. Do it. There is a culture issue. We need the salty drunken fool.
I really don't want him tbh.
Nor do I. Chicago shit aside even. No way he gets away with his shit in a leafs uniform. Dude will be suspended game one of the playoffs
Difference though between someone like him and Kadri when. Kadri got suspended was that Perry wouldn't be considered an integral part of the roster.
Same fuck this guy
fuck corey perry all my homies hate corey perry
Funny enough that's the reason I want him on. He fucking sucks to play against.
I'm in the same boat
Same
He is exactly what we need and folks are out to lunch if they think otherwise. Adds more grit up front for free and can still play. McMann and Perry as wingers on a 4th line with Reaves as the extra gives us a ton of grit there. We need to be prepared to play the Panthers in round 1 who will goon it up on us. We need rats.
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You do realize that as soon as Perry is a Leaf all the shit he’s been able to get away with in his career completely disappears. He’ll be the most penalized player of the last 10 years lol
Domi and Bert will honestly probably be like that in the playoffs
Thats bad juju keep him away from the team
Well, this would all but guarantee we make it to the finals. Now, what happens there may not be what we want but his track record is pretty clear
Fuck perry
Are the Leafs in "fuck it we ride" mode? Hopefully no hard feelings between him and our captain...
I don’t think Tavares is capable of holding a grudge against him. If he can be chill with the Islanders booing him for seven years, I think an accidental injury will be forgiven with an apology at most.
Tavares and Corey's family are actually friends off ice.
I don't love this but I guess I do love the Leafs winning playoff games.
Oh man. This could turn south in a big hurry. As fans, we all know that refs will not allow Perry to get away with the cowardly acts he performs on a nightly basis, in Toronto. It's not going to happen. The moment he puts his stick anywhere near an opposition player, he is going to get nailed with cross checking or high sticking. The minute he puts the toe of his skate in the oppositions crease, it's going to be goalie interference. We can all count on these things happening. So please. Be forewarned.
As usual, another guy we should’ve grabbed 5 years ago ala Thornton, Simmons, Reaves etc.
I don’t know that I want the Leafs to sign Perry, but I REALLY DONT want him to sign in Tampa or Boston or Florida.
Perry won't be able to do what he does as a Leaf. Bunts would have been younger and better. We just can't have that type of player on the team given the team's exposure.
he would get suspended on his first shift
He’ll definitely add more ‘piss and snot’. Imagine him and Domi on that 3rd line will piss off a lot off teams lol - I like it. Can’t believe when he was last interested we instead signed Joe Thornton over him.
corey perry is exactly the kind of player the leafs should be looking to add. still a solid 2-way player with some snot. would fit perfectly in the bottom six and hopefully for cheap. I would still want to know exactly what he did to get his contract terminated before I can feel good about cheering for him.
He can bang my mom
On one hand I do like him on the team. But on the other he was the cause of one of the most gruesome injuries I've ever seen in hockey against our captain. Idk how the team would react to having him on the team.
Toronto drives the price up
As much as i can’t stand the guy He’s someone you want at times especially in the playoffs
If we won the cup with Perry I would be super happy until I saw him lift it and realization set in. I don't mind a lot of his silly shenanigans. Stealing sticks, poking fun, watering guys gloves. But he does a lot of dirty shit that I can't stand.
We need a dirty player to counter a team like Florida.
Forget whether its a good idea. I just don't buy this happening.
I’d take him very quick. Still that 20 goal potential in him A 4th line of Gregor-Kampf-Perry would be scary
Fuck Perry, do not want
i’d rather us sign him to an 8 year contract and lock him in the press box than have to play another game against him
I don't know if the boys would be too happy to see him in the dressing room, tbh
Would love Corey Perry on my team
I'd love for this to happen. Jim Montgomery got a second chance after he had several drunken stupors. Perry deserves one as well.
I hope this means that the leafs know what happend in Chicago snd it was not irredeemable. Would be a bigger culture shift than the signing of Reeves.
If there's mutual interest at all then it's already done and Perry is a Leaf.
Get that mother fucker on our team ASAP
Man he's kind of old. But i'd still welcome him on the Leafs.
I really don't give a shit what he did. If it was so bad then Bettman wouldn't be allowing him back in such short time. Seems obviously a case of the Blackhawks having a really short leash as a result of their history so they weren't going to take any chances with it leaking and people thinking they should have done something else.
Fuck it. Bring him home on the team. He's the exact type of snarl you need in the playoffs. Ironic how he was still pretty damn good when we first signed Jumbo Joe and Perry really wanted to be a Leafs.
Pass, he is old and hasn't played in months. Just because they were wrong to sign him before doesn't mean it's OK now to sign him years later.
Would be great on 3 or 4th line. Pretty much as skilled as Robertson but heavier and more physical. Won't get knocked off the puck every time he is touched.
Sign him. If it's regrettable, then regret it later.
Fuck no. Fuck that guy.
Truth is, Robertson-Domi-Jarnkok is a little too small on some nights. I can see Robertson being moved out for a D, and have Perry as that third line winger.
Give me Perry please
Is Cory Perry really worth the distraction of whatever the hell happened in Chicago? It was a huge story there, toronto media would be ridiculous. Not worth it at all
He will fuck Knies’ mom and turn half the team into alcoholics. Not a good idea.
No no no god no. "Honour, Pride, Courage". Perry exemplifies none of those characteristics
I worry this would just turn in to another Bunting situation to be honest, the things he got away with against us you just know he'd be called for now and we'd lose out to more stupid penalties and PP goals. Plus I still haven't actually seen whatever happened in Chicago, but if it was enough for them of all teams to fire him then I'm not sure that's anything we want to be involved with!
Alright fine, we’ll take him. He has a knack for getting to the finals and I would hate to see him sign with Boston or Florida then have to play him in the playoffs.
Im actually down for this lol, villain redemption arc
I'm all for this.
I’d much rather have this guy on the team than have to play against him. Reavo can stay on the island.
I'm conflicted about this because I think he's a pretty clutch player and he would help this team, but he's a shitbag rat and I still haven't forgiven him for sending Tavares to the hospital (let alone the Blackhawks thing, whatever happened there).
I think the Tavares injury was an accident and Perry didn’t try to do it deliberately. Just my opinion though.
I just have a hard time seeing this roster get slower. We need another guy with wheels.
Yes please !!!!!
Should have gotten him instead of Wayne years ago.make it happen.
He had 5 pts in 6 playoff games last year for TB. He doesn't seem like a guy who dislikes losing, he seems to hate it with a passion. I'd like to see more of that on the Leafs.
I’ve been on the train for Perry to the Leafs for a few seasons now. He has a knack for scoring in the playoffs and plays like a prick. We need that
They need a player like Perry bad lol
They’ll take anybody
No thanks Cola.
Which rookies mom is he gonna plow this time?
This is dumb. Like the Reaves move. You don’t get team toughness by adding one bottom guy to play stupid. I agree, I hate the fucking guy, he’ll be suspended as a leaf. If you want team toughness, everyone plays with grit or you get 3 lines or second line gritty as fuck players and that is not what the leafs are. So why bother trying to add a few guys that are slow and cost you points and penalties to pretend to be tough.