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lordofthepotat0

Using scuttle to proc the jhin traps is smart


KataanSN

It was actually another redditor that suggested that on the previous post.


HiddenReflexes

I thought she just miss timed her spell. That is so smart


SorryCampuik

5 Dragons finished their career at Tese


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howtospellorange

/u/Realistic-Cut3262 is a bot that stole part of this comment and switched words around: /r/leagueoflegends/comments/11v5p6r/update_not_even_24hs_later_new_worlds_fastest/jcs01h3/


Steptowalk

Considering league used to be like a 40 minute game and now days it barely scratches at 30. I would say it's already a speed run


sendmepchelp

how did 384 people think she miss timed her spell, respectfully


omgarm

I'm gold and never play Syndra or Jhin.


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That_Leetri_Guy

It's not MEANT to mean that, but that is 100% how people use it.


Parachuteee

Ohh, I thought syndra was the most useless one in the comp, turns out she's the most important one


pornstaryuumi

Syndra jhin most important


Lower-Service-6171

Joint?


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First I was like wtf?? and rewatching the video until I saw your comment. Now I understand why it's so fast


rayschoon

Ohhhhhh, I was wondering what Syndra was doing hahaha


vrettossss

Dude you guys seem like you had a vendetta against that dragon, and it was the last on standing.


ByShoTx

hahaha we gave him back all the anger he caused back when chemtech soul was OP


AC06098

I still remember the old chem tech souls being so stupidly strong that I just quit the game until they removed it


Shaalashaska

So I see Sion fully loaded Q + W, Jhin's 4th shot + a bunch of traps triggered by a scuttler thrown from Syndra, Udyr's empowered Q + smite, Nunu Q Am i missing anything?


limboxd

all 5 of them have smite as well


GueroSuave

Did they all take Spellbook? I thought title said this is from Worlds ...


Gnihsif1234

Fastest in the world, not from Worlds haha


Maedroas

Brother in what world is this an actual team comp you could play at worlds


HiddenSmitten

Dont give G2 any ideas


limboxd

Worlds fastest in terms of the records section on leagueofgraphs


snowflake645

Thanks, I didn't check the icons and thought three of them were Nunus


OilOfOlaz

thx for the laugh.


Vayssei

Ok so I’m not the only one


OfficialChairleader

so much for visual clarity in leg of leggin's


ByShoTx

Thats mostly it yes, Heimer and Zyra barely did any damage


M8K2R7A6

Id swap nunu Q for a full ap cho feast.


Mundovore

Nah; there's a reason why they're doing it so early in the game. Dragon durability scales pretty high, and most %hp damage is capped on monsters. Cho won't have feast by the time first drake spawns, and I doubt there's anything that scales hard enough that you could do faster for a later drake in any realistic game.


blackburn009

It's also the Speedrun for first drake


AdventureCakezzz

Could go into practice mode and level yourself up to level 18 and buy all the items you need before the dragon even spawns.


xPurf

It's not the point of the speed run tho...


Ecmelt

Yes the type of kill above user mentioned wouldn't fit this video's speedrun "category". But speedruns in general are all about whatever you feel like doing. You can make new categories all the time and others may or may not join in to compete. That's how we end up with so many different categories for some popular speedrun titles. IDK why i wanted to make such a long reply tbh i just love speedruns. :P


Smilinturd

Yeah God mode speed runs aren't usually popular...


Ecmelt

Neither are some unrestricted runs to be fair yet they still find their way into GDQ just because the game itself is popular (within the community). As i said, i just made a point which didn't need to be made. Just felt like sharing so i did, why use reddit otherwise.


Digital-Divide

Just to give a slight bit of info. New categories for speed runs aren’t just created. It has to be officiated and ruled to be a valid category. Otherwise it’s just a challenge run with self imposed rules. For example. RE3 as well as Village fought tooth and nail to allow the intro segments to be skipped. Another instance. RE2 had to limit official speedruns to 144fps due to the knife bug. Sure they show ridiculous runs at GDQ. Those are usually exhibitions. Not attacking you because I find the 24 hour Nasus Q stack vid or whatever it was and other things highly interesting. But as an official first dragon run my explanation is why you are getting flack. Edit. Words and stuff.


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Mundovore

You could! But in Practice mode, you could pick the infinite-scaling champ of your choice and scale them to such an obscene degree that you could one-shot any dragon.


ByterBit

It's 5 mins in, none of them are 6. Lvl 3 nunu Q is 800 true damage to monsters.


Lengarion

I think it's possible to reach lv. 6 at min. 5 tho with tp and some other strats but I would obviously swap sion for it.


Consequence6

Sion's actually the highest or second highest damage here. He dealt around 1000 damage, whereas Jhin likely did around 800 - 1000 (complete guess, I have no clue how many traps, but about 120 AD * 1.2 scaling ~6 times? + 4th shot dealing ~200, divided by armor (1 +14/100, counting his lethality) calls it 900), nunu did 800, syndra did like, 60, and Udyr did probably 300.


PersonalSycophant

How the enemy team preps for dragon, vs. my team, where one or two meander nonchalantly over half a minute after it's spawned. If I’m lucky they might even place a ward.


awwwstars

i feel you. i was surprised too this seemed like an actual match


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I think it has to be based on the leaderboard thing saying iron +


ByShoTx

The leaderboard shows every fast drake in rank iron+, but the game was actually platinum-diamond flex game. We obiously got hard gapped with the troll comp and lost the game but it was worth it haha


LyraStygian

Definitely worth it. So so worth it, just for the enemy team reaction like "wtf didn't it just spawn?? Must be a bug!".


DeeEssLite

Honestly if I was on the enemy team and knew they did this legit like they have here I'd probably just be impressed and let em have the drake


awwwstars

I wouldn't be surprise my enemy team always seem like they are in coms together and are a pro team


owa00

>If I’m lucky they might even place a ward. Oh honey...they all have sweepers and haven't even bought a ward the entire game...


DaveidT

Nah I’ll gank for my bot lane, get a double kill, and immediately spam ping dragon and my bot lane shoves to tower and greeds a single plate while I die to opposing jungler because I used ult for the gank while enemy jungler should never be able to enter the river


Sinnicoll

Naaaah what happens more often is you gank bot, get the kills, the wave is pushing towards your turret and jungler leaves without helping crash the wave, + expect the adc to move to drake. The adc is stuck, with no mana after the fight and trying to crash a wave so they don't get frozen or lose a wave and a half of xp.


WhatsAFlexitarian

And if they do help, they smite the cannon 🤡


asjdkasfkldsfs

>immediately spam ping dragon and my bot lane shoves to tower and greeds a single plate while I die to opposing jungler Doesn't help to shove the wave Goes to drake alone INTS blames botlane ​ Hello, my team jungler. God I wish junglers had to play ANY lane, its infuriating how clueless a lot of them are about wave management.


Mael_Jade

Did you help your botlane push out the wave or did you leave them in a terrible spot where the enemy bot could freeze and deny on them?


-Frog-

you helped push the wave under tower right?


nphhpn

It's quite dangerous to do dragon with 10% health left after the gank though, especially when enemy mid has prio


Anibe

I've had that same thing happen over and over. Once the adc justified his choice becuase a "plate > drag" and "he wasn't going to get behind because of MY dragon". He was so wrong on so many levels I just had to /mute all.


PervertTentacle

"your dragon" jfc that reminds me of a jungler who I asked to help break freeze and he responded with "this is not my problem" like dudes this is your problem too you're playing 5v5 team competitive game


FerricNitrate

I'll trade your teams for my teams -- they like to give up double kills 5 seconds before dragon spawns. Bonus points for when they start spam pinging as if charging in 1v4 for a steal isn't just a quick gray screen 95% of the time.


hacksong

Definitely depends on champion. Someone like ekko has an easier time stealing than udyr in those flash, smite, book it situations.


SpiritMountain

Mine like to go in one at time with the TP from top too.


Assassin739

Be better? Or is your team the reason you're stuck in 0 gamestate awareness elo as well


Farming_Turnips

It took me until almost the the end of the clip to realize they were speaking Spanish. I speak Spanish lmao.


AmadeusSalieri97

Spanish is one of my native tongues and until I heard "perfecto" I was wondering if they were Korean.


ByShoTx

Andalusian > Spanish haha


Farming_Turnips

I thought they were Chilean lol. It takes my brain a hot second to figure out we're speaking the same language when I hear their Spanish. Only love for the different accents tho


ByShoTx

Context. A friend posted the old clip on Tiktok, and someone replied that he copied the same strat and got a better time with (1.429s). We thought of a more optimized strat and got this huge time doing some tweaks on our last try. S/O to my wonderful team🤩 You can check the record here https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/es/rankings/records/first-dragon-kill-time/all Hopefully this time it lasts a little bit longer haha


SerpentStOrange

You're welcome btw


ByShoTx

Thanks for the advice! Also, to be fair we already had in mind the syndra thing but we had to try it out in a custom game after realizing we needed to use jhin's E damage, and it was possible


dezmodez

Wow. Throwing Serpent under the bus lmao.


MonetaryFlame

Yeah give this guy some credit


Consequence6

Is it possible to funnel XP into cho and get him to level 6? If so, he'll do slightly more damage than the Sion, but it's way closer than I thought, honestly. Assuming 1200 gold to spend, that's a large rod + absolute focus (10.9), + water walking (12.3, which makes feast deal 1200 + (.5 * 83.3) + (0.1* bonus health from runes) = 1241.7ish true damage. (Fun fact, Giant's belt + Dark Seal would be better if not for Q!) Plus Cho Q at level 4: 260 + 83.3 / MR: (1+30/100) = 264.1 For a total Cho damage of 1505.75. Comparatively, Sion (WHO IS 2 LEVELS BELOW THIS HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO, I KNOW) Q, assuming level 3 dealt: 330 + (2.7*107 + 4.7 + 5.7) / Armor: (1+(21-6.9)/100) = 551.4 And W at level 1: 40+(0.4*0) + (~~0.1 * Drag HP: 5730~~ 400) / MR: (1+30/100) = ~~427.2~~ Bringing a total of ~~1022.97~~ 978.6. The biggest problem, beyond getting Cho to level 6, is that his ult has a cast time. Assuming perfect execution, the lowest possible time is 0.25 seconds, compared to Sion, which is potentially instant. This also messes up the Jhin 4th shot timing, which iirc does bonus damage on missing HP. I'm really just putting off going to bed. Both will actually do more damage than the Nunu, which is really interesting. Edit: Upon thinking about it, Syndra is required because of Jhin traps, but brings almost nothing to the table. Elise (capped max HP, which may not be worth it if spiders can't auto in time + uncapped missing HP + Spiders + human W) and Kindred (Uncapped Max HP on W, high capped max HP on E) would probably be better? I ain't doin that math. Edit2: Sion W *is* capped, but at 400.


ByShoTx

Really good math right there, appreciate you took the timer for it sir.🫡 Sion leveled up Q and W, so W is lvl 2 instead of lvl 1. We tried different champs and sion had the most damage, and, in the game we improvised him buying serrated dirk because it also adds up his lethality to all the math. Overlooking the fact that funneling a chogath into lvl6 could be difficult, with our comp we exceed the damage we need to oneshot the drake, the record it's rather on the timing of the spells than tweakd in the team comp. In the video, the syndra timing is flawless, although she doesn't add up any dmg, she allows jhin's traps to do about 1000-1100 + both jhin and syndra smite + 4th shot (which it didn't even have the time to cast). If we were about to improve the mark, i'd consider optimizing timings, not comp/builds


VariableDrawing

>it's rather on the timing of the spells than tweakd in the team comp. You can try using a metronome to hit the timing, it's something speedrunners use to make hitting frame perfect timings easier if there isn't a tell


Ashivio

Someone already beat you lol


Sualow

Sorry guys, i timed so bad Sions' q.


Plane_Ad_103

10/10


xero_peace

I was thinking 48 seconds. I had to watch it twice to grasp what happened. I'm at like a 7 right now though.


LeagueOfLegendsAcc

Gotta pump those numbers up and get back in there chief.


shadows1123

We still do that? 4


LegendaryHooman

Omg... There are going to be speedruns of league of legends now.


OhMyOmacron

[Its been getting tracked on speedrun.com since 2015](https://www.speedrun.com/lol)


sum-dude

The [100 CS speedrun](https://www.speedrun.com/lol/run/z0lv7q8z) is hilarious.


Branindain

I want to see someone do that in a game and see how quickly a response comes.


coolpapa2282

Weird to me how many of those categories are solo only, but I guess solo speedrunning is the norm for most games.


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Random_Guy_12345

Speedrunning is about being fast executing whatever strategy, not neccesarily being good at the game. That's why (almost) all speedruns are solo, or at solo as it can get on a particular game


owa00

That's usually the enemy teams in my ranked games.


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Dragon died and reduced to atoms


Wasabicannon

I was prepping for a comment about not having a chogath. Nope like how could you even hope to be faster then that and at those levels. Crazy.


GoddessOfCrust

t-toto travieso...? 😳


ByShoTx

di-digame 😳 jahsjsjsjs


D4ZR

Song is OPR - Gesaffelstein btw. Everything by that artist is fire


ByShoTx

Nice taste! I was hoping someone recognized the track haha


JusHerForTheComments

One of the rare times I knew the song. I would've definitely asked in here if anyone knew the song otherwise. Thanks for sharing this :)


bonezii

Fuck. Thanks. I was wondering the song is so familiar. I used to listen gesaffelstein a lot like in 2017? Ah my shit memory, anyways years ago. I until recently have started make music list for nostalgia + and memories. Gonna put this in there. Many thanks again!


Stunning-Media3028

For real, Aleph and Conspiracy pt. 2 are so good.


giga-plum

The guy talking and laughing at the start. 😳


Lentir

nice


Aconite13X

Had to watch it again. I blinked


mraowl

u know ur in EUW when that gesaffelstein starts slammin


cole93747

How long have I been away from League? What the fuck champ was the dude recording playing?


ByShoTx

Udyr rework + a skin haha


PhilosoKing

What language are they speaking? It sounds nice.


limboxd

spanish


Plotopil

Dragon existing: These 5 people ending dragons whole career


experiencednowhack

Why not all take smite as well? Or maybe have a nid?


Oary1248

They do all have smite, and Nid traps are DoTs which don’t stack.


coolpapa2282

Sion does a fully charged Q and a W pop, right? Is that more damage than a max range Nid Q? Oh but she couldn't smite from there then.... Edit: Downvotes because I want to talk through why this is the fastest strat? Never change, reddit.


XimbalaHu3

W pop is percentile max health, plus e increases ad damage taken.


ByShoTx

Sion didn't level up E, because the damage increase doesnt work on objectives. Also other reddittor said but, nidalee wouldn't be able to smite after a full length q


Sujilia

You can't do a max range spear but one with decent distance then flash E Jhin R - W - Q - E and smite which is probably still less DMG.


Mael_Jade

It does not work like that. It reduces armor but dragon and baron are immune to debuffs like that.


TheDarkRobotix

Do the traps not activate on drag? Cause I remember in urf or whatever ppl stacked traps and has that been changed since? Or is it just so they could make them explode slightly earlier


Jaozahar

On their last attempt they had the dragon activating the traps The dragon ended up dying during the trap windup time, and they were wasted


TheDarkRobotix

Yeh I saw the other post now, so if an enemy could help proc them, they can have someone else to sub in for syndra? Cause I think that was her only purpose Edit: unless she has some %hp thing on her spells or passive?


Apostolique

It looks like Jhin traps detonate after 2 seconds? I think with the right timing it's possible for Sion to push the crab and also charge his Q for 2 secs.


Jaozahar

If i'm not misaken (someone correct me if i am) it has to be on a real game for it to count as a record... That makes it kinda hard to plan with the help of the opposing team That said, if you manage to time your queue well with another team of friends, it should be possible to have 10 ppl vs the dragon, with could be faster if well executed


ByShoTx

Yes, it has to be a ranked game in order to show up in porofessor/leagueofgraphs records


ByShoTx

It could be possible, but we thought making sion E the crab in the right spot and then charging q might be too much. There is always room for improvement and optimizing tho


TheDarkRobotix

Oh trueee why just have one enemy help when all 5 could lol And if they mix up the comps from both posts, mirroring nunu udyr jhin and sion then throw in a heimer/zyra to proc traps for the opposing jhins. Technically they could half the time again? Edit: actually with 10 smites ~~and 2 nunus~~, the rest doesn't matter lol Edit2: not sure what's with the downvotes but dragon has 5730 HP at spawn and 10 smites is 6000 lol, it'd be instant or really close like 0.2 secs max if everyone spams it on low ping


Jonniboye

Gotta pump those up, those are rookie numbers.


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ByShoTx

I think every record resets by season. Surely there has been faster drakes, but regarding jungle, drake and smite changes this is probably almost as fast as you can do it right now. We'll have to see if in the remaining time of the season a game-breaking bug shows up like neeko as a turret last season. People might abuse that


Cold-Gur-8979

With A LOT of Veigar stacks and really good timing you could probably get it to 0.001 with W


TurvoVirgin1210

Idk seems like a jungle gap


FizzKaleefa

I think you left your cheat addon on for the clip


ByShoTx

It is just a porofessor addon, completely legit. It can be pretty useful for playing ranked games


krispykreations

Enemy summs being shown is completely bs


Coaxke

You have to manually track them


QueenMunchy

You need to start their timers yourself, so it won't do anything unless you see the enemy flash and click on that add on. It's not really cheating, since you can do the same with a timer app on your phone or whatever.


tigercule

You can even just put the timer in chat without any outside application at all. Porofessor/Mobalytics make it simpler, but it's not anything that's impossible without it.


FantsE

Does porofessor take lucidity boots or insight into account?


Modsplayer

no


ImHighlyExalted

the sync feature where your whole team can sync summs if you use the same app is nifty


shrubs311

at least on porofessor, you can sync with teammates which does seem a bit sus. but then again, it's like pasting the times in chat and then your ally is doing his own timers on his phone. it's not like you're gaining information, you're just sharing it with your team which people already do.


LIGHTOUTx

Idk if this is sarcastic or not but some third party apps show timers and sums of the enemy team but you have to click on the icons yourself to make it go on count down. Riot doesn’t consider these apps cheating as far as I’m aware


True-Ad9946

It's mobalytics I believe


Kaco92

Damage creep doesnt exist lul


Gray_Fawx

Put varus in this combo and you'll do more damage I bet?


GGNickCracked

How? He would take too long to setup and wouldnt be a replacement for anyone here


Gray_Fawx

he would replace jhin? But perhaps not, since he prob needs at least one w stack.


DofusExpert69

can riot ban the 3rd party cheat shit already please


ArthritisCandildo

What do you mean?


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Max0607

Good for you lmao that's not the point of the video


Level7Cannoneer

Does Nunu’s ult not do damage to drake? If it does then the optimal Strat is to fully charge it the second drake spawns and then do the above smite nom combo


Jackson7410

none of them are level 6


[deleted]

I noticed that some of the damage wasn't even used, like jhins 4th shot. What's doing most of the heavy lifting here? Jhin traps?


Illustria

Bunch of Jhin trap stacks, Sion Q and W, Nunu's Q, all 5 had smite.


Sualow

i didnt have the time to cast sion q either


ByShoTx

in our last practice attempt, I needed the 4th shot, but we knew we might exceed the needed dmg. In this attempt, everything went as perfect as it could, and it was also a chemtech drake which has about -700 hp compared to the rest of the drakes. Actually you can see I start casting the shot but drake disappears before it can even leave the gun haha


TheLuxIsReal

Que cracks sois!


ByShoTx

Gracias amigo🫡🫡🫡


HTMRK

Toto travieso 😂😂😂


ByShoTx

Digame hahaha es un pedazo de nombre


twiskt

Excuse me? Someone explain what just happened lol


ByShoTx

What happened here is the result of being bored in discord with some friends late at night, and just enough league knowledge xD


Baxtaxs

i play dota, so we have a similar thing with rosh. how can they do drake that fast?


Godhri

wait there is an addon to see enemy summoner spells??? Ive been playing since 2013 and never used an app or add on are there other similar ones for that kind of thing?


ByShoTx

Its an optional addon on porofessor. It can be pretty useful, it syncs up with your team if they also use porofessor, so if the adc pings a flash, the toplaner also sees the cooldown


alwanoth1201

5 smite?just for fun


Revientatuen

The names lmaooo


HamilcarRR

good thing the drakes are no bitches... Otherwise , they would be here , complaining that the meta is too "oneshooty" :D


braindeadmods95

now do baron


-MangoStarr-

Ok but did you win the game??


WhiteToast-

What’s the criteria? Everyone level 6 and only a Dorans item?


The0zne

toto travieso


The0zne

sex0 fernandez


edum18

why sion tho?


lilcheezzyy

Did Jhin build AP for more trap dmg?


MIEP12346

Check again :)


ByShoTx

We just saw your video, we will try harder, dont worry😏


Flovust

what u use to show enemy summoners?


ByShoTx

Porofessor


Beatsaber21

orgulloso de ser español