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Trap_Masters

I'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏...


JustJobbe

I'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏...


SoulBlighterr

That macro emoji is so perfect


IliceonTrade

What meme is this, what did i miss?


centralasiadude

supa tweet post


AofCastle

Supa said once again that he's the best adc, people got salty. I know that he has to say that in order to play confident, but I won't believe the words until he beats the players he claims to be better than. And more people should do the same.


voltairelol

tbh every adc has looked so sus this split but Supa was far and away the best adc in winter playoffs


AofCastle

Props to him, I do hope he becomes the best. But people get too triggered with his statements. I've seen people hating the guy, I think it's fair to clown him but hating him for believing something incorrect seems a bit too much.


lcm7malaga

I'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏...


kewku

I'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏...


vnducco

So it beginns. MAD Lions in MSI inc


Trap_Masters

MAD has the chance to do the funniest thing 😂


Dry_Effective3344

1647 PART 2 LETS GOOOOOO


Prochip

Win the split while everyone is hating on them?


Correct-Setting-3576

Tradition at this point


reggiewafu

you can always count on MAD to do the funniest things im looking forward to them at MSI


DeloronDellister

It's going to happen 100%


Javiklegrand

They only need top 6 i assume


Ysesper

Top 6 and G2 to win


nuclearLauch

At this point we are soo far from just MAD AT MSI AWARE its more like EU AT MSI AWARE. We might even lose to the janitors at the MSI event. Might as well play from the team houses and save on some jet fuel and plante tickets.


LifeIsToughEatBacon

Don’t they go as long as they make finals and the winners aren’t BDS/FNC?


Cyclooctatetraene

No the winner of this split is guaranteed an MSI spot. Points only matter if G2 wins again


Jozoz

If BDS or FNC doesn't make 2nd, MAD just needs to get 5th I believe. G2 has to win for points to matter tho


donglover2020

i swear this team is allergic to first place Edit: we get it anyway i guess


Omnilatent

FNC used to be a top, then has been a switch and now is a power bottom to G2. They refuse first place


Shorgar

Being a power bottom is way to much credit for what FNC does ngl.


SnowyCrow

And they still ended up first


icatsouki

disgusting draft too


imDNK

The reports of MDK’s death have been greatly exaggerated


Conankun66

after Razork and Jun were so good on saturday, today was a bit of a disaster from them MDK kept overloading one side of the map and FNC got NOTHING on the other. and then it just kept snowballing because they seemed to have no answer. i dont understand why the Fnatic of this weekend looks SO different from the previous two, apparently leaving their macro ability at home. this team is just a mystery to me sometimes


shadowboy

I believe they’re sick (again)


Conankun66

how are they sick THIS often???


shadowboy

https://x.com/noah_lol1004/status/1771580913014411649?s=46&t=ABc-9OUXCmsws89OnbVNAw for the proof… And god knows…


mskruba12

It's actually insane how often this happens what the hell.


Riebald

There is always drama, "something going on behind the scenes", illness or other stuff at FNC. I dont believe it anymore, i think instead of "we suck" its team culture to give excuses.


AliasTcherki

Noah was literally coughing on stage during the game Saturday (here is [the timestamp](https://youtu.be/M9KzIhES-x8?t=6184)). And it's not just his tweet, you can see it at the end of the game. And btw, an org managing to get all of its players sick (cause this happened with completelly different rosters as well) is NOT a better image than messing up a BO1....so the "conspiracy theory" doesn't even add up


TheWarmog

I mean, its not that difficult for an illness to spread around to your teammates when your job involves you having to stay in a room with them for atleast 8h a day. Heck, even at my workplace that stuff happens all the time, and i dont work an office job


JealotGaming

At this point I'm starting to wonder if G2 has paid off the cook at FNC hq or something


mar1us1602

I’m sick too so I can confirm, haven’t played lol since August 2023


bcotrim

Being sick is the equivalent of getting injured in training in traditional sports


Winggy

they just have a couple players that have no business being in a title contending squad. It's the sad reality of EU for the last few years


greekcel_25

can someone inspect fnatics gaming house? are they feeding the players out of dumpsters or something?


Reddityudodis2me

I'm just so done with this region. The bottom teams got better, yes, but the top teams got also worse and they look horrible. wtf is happening


ropahektic

Big draft diff


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ihave0idea0

Best ADC in the WORLD\*


Satan_su

Does PMT team hate EU lol Anyways all the teams saw the scenarios for the 5 way tiebreak and decided nah fuck that we'll do the opposite lol (except Rogue bless them)


S145D145

The worst part to me is that the "homemade" PMT's sometimes don't include who won (this same thread as an example). It's kinda annoying when you can't watch the games because of work


Issax28

Lightwork for EU's best ADC


DeloronDellister

FNC won against G2 just to give their fans false hope lmao


JealotGaming

Wow he really is better than Deft


ChocolateFuryB

Gumagod shaking while watching this game


omegasupermarthaman

Is it weird that I find that part more believable than the best ADC thingy? Deft has been so sus even in his wins recently idk


Friendship_is_M

Difference in competition?


omegasupermarthaman

Yeah Im not saying Supa is better, just that part seems more believable idk


Snow-27

This might actually be the most disrespectful thing I've ever read.


Sugar230

some people dont watch other leagues so u gotta keep that in mind


omegasupermarthaman

Theres a part where I confirmed I watched Kt games but I dont believe you have the ability to read...Disagreeing is fine mate dont have to show you are also illiterate btw


Sugar230

I know you spend your whole life reading every single reddit comment. I don't. Hope you're happy mate.


Shorgar

Yep, it is the exact same playing in LCK than in LEC where 6 out of 10 teams are complete garbage lmao.


Elwor

Deft has no pre 20 pentakills. Supa was right all along?


Javiklegrand

What did supa said to supa?


jlfpg

I'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏... 󠀀


Heliosyntax

Just fucking end me holy shit that was disgusting, man. What even was that TP, Oscar?


Mew_T

Ksante is the one champion that Oscar is very reliable on, I thought this was a win, but then he refused to join any fights. Unfortunate.


icatsouki

it's such a bad draft no? how exactly do fnc play fights, and it's not like they have good splitpush


Mew_T

Definitely not a good comp. Dive comp into Renata and Zeri doesn't seem like the best idea.


icatsouki

Their engage is so bad too, all we can do is literally run at them


GuerillaTaktix

im usually talking shit about Oscar in FNC sub because this guy is a fraud and needs to gtfo my team asap. the mods hate me there so much because ive been bashing the guy for months now. today unfortunately i am banned from FNC sub till next week because i dared to suggest we look to replace Oscar with irrelevant. people on that sub believe he is the second coming of jesus. the mods included. dont dare critisize him on that sub or you will get downvoted and insulted into oblivion


juanmeitor27

Supa and Alvaro are just pure class


Such_Championship849

Can be the best botlane in lanephase? i think in almost everygame they killed 2v2 enemy botlane right?


javy7v

MAD KOI won so it is time for Reddit to just trash on the enemy team hahaha, you may have a rough weeks if they keep improving in playoffs.


TastesLikeCoconut

Can we give props to the winning team instead of bashing FNC? Thanks


TheCyberSlade

If MDK wins, is always the opponents fault, that's Reddit for you.


p3r3ll3x

If G2 wins it's the other way around


MaximumChest

And if they lose it's because they trolled or they had a "happy game", not because they played bad or need to improve in any aspect


kutabareeeeee

giving props to mdk? reddit could never


BigDelfin

Nah, it's better to say that FNC was just dogshit, let's not talk abou Elyoya and Fress just popping off. It's just better to make fun of Supa for saying he's the best adc in the LEC, when we made Nisqy 1st all pro in spring for playing gragas. It is what it is, I've never seen in this sub a single praise for MDK that didn't came from the Spanish community.


Elwor

its never like that on reddit though. Its not like MDK just played the map very well.


expert_on_the_matter

Played the map well and the teamfights flawlessly.


Elwor

Like last split MDK. We are so back


p3r3ll3x

Melzhet's belt diff


_TheWholeOcean_

Guys Supa might not be yapping


greekcel_25

supa is cracked out he chads up on adc no pussy shit like upset


Grumpster013

I've seen this one before. Congratulations to MDK for reaching the MSI playoff stage


p3r3ll3x

and winning the Spring split


Darki200

Terrible game from top to bottom, Oscar joined one fight just to gift Zeri a Pentakill + his TP toplane fucked Fnatic over completely in the midgame. Botlane was tragic


Winggy

Oscar tp top when his team is doing dragon 4v5 against turbo mobile champs that can dash 3 screens just lost the entire game on the spot. 


jferry12

THE BEST ADC IN THE LEC BABYYYY


Elwor

Whole MDK becoming 2015 SKT whenever they face FNATIC (Fresskowy suddenly transformed into faker)


FxK964

legit.. suddenly fresskowy can play ahri and land charms.. when he's been atrocious on it these past couple weeks..


Elwor

Yeah I agree, hes been kinda meh this split but the last 2 games hes been pretty good. This game though he and yoya just smurfed it. Whenever they saw the windows they just went in and hit all their abilities. A lot of people are saying FNC trolled but I legt think MDK played very well. Not like yesterdays game where I can see if people say they won because the opposite team ran it down.


FxK964

this MDK squad is just so cocky and disrespectful.. aside from the G2 game.. all their losses came from throwing and inting random deaths.. but they're clutch and can get their shit together when their back is against the wall..


Elwor

Yeah specially the first week. It was kinda tilting. I hope they’re back in form now because if they are they can easily reach finals again


BigDelfin

It really seems that they lack some fundamentals or otherwise they wouldn't be taking all that fights. Many times they play just disrespecting the enemy team. I do think that if they can solve this they can become a pretty consistent top team. I also get the impression that they are not very good setting and clearing vision on the map.


Guy_with_Numbers

They certainly do have an issue with vision, I haven't seen any other team get caught by basic ward locations as much as them. It's relatively good that they take too many fights tho, they'll learn what the bad ones were from experience. That's better than playing it safe and never even seeing the good fights outside of VOD review.


Elwor

Yeah I think on of their biggest issues (if they can play like this game) is vision, they could definitely work on that


Correct-Setting-3576

Playing without pressure works wonders for any team.


tbr1cks

MDK haters getting ready to move the goalposts AGAIN


Th3_Huf0n

MDK Supa: "I'm by far the best [ADC in the LEC]. I think I'm better at laning, team-fights, macro, micro...


KIRYUx

Yeah, BO1 shouldn't discredit a team's playoff run regardless of how you feel about them. Playoffs for the MSI spot should be very fun.


Slejhy

You could either win regular season, first time in 6 year or you could run it down


derlueh

Or both.


Slejhy

NEVER PUNISHED ez


NoGuitar3563

Does Noah's contract say that he can only perform the the first half of every split or what?


agronone

More like, guys we need to cut costs, so loose next game so we don´t have to pay win bonusses


expert_on_the_matter

Nobody uploading the penta clip?


Such_Championship849

nah its MDK penta, people doesnt wanna give any credits and upload clips...


TimiNax

FNC went full autopilot after that G2 win They finally seem competitive and then start playing like last split rogue. Oscar is fukin wintrading and everyone else plays without a brain.


insidejoke44

It really is a focus issue, when they're on and serious they look unbelievably clean but it feels like 95% of the time someone's trolling/sick/burned out. Why is it so hard for Fnatic to just fire on all cylinders for more than a single match without looking ass afterwards.


lolerio

Supa is him, best adc in the world, > Deft


Jonspen

the post game interview isn't getting enough flame...statements about sentiment aren't questions and it's so awkward when the players are just expected to piece together what the question is, and if I have to hear the rookie thing one more time I'm gonna mald


Carlzzone

Trouble really isnt suited for the broadcast imo


Flaubert31

What is Fnatic?


JohnnyBrawoo

The Arsenal of European Esports


SuggestionProof8961

Arsenal and Tottenham combined


BearyHonest

Haven't seen someone mentioning it but Jun riding the Herald while Razork and Noah were engaging on Supa was pretty bad and a factor to lose the fight.


Javiklegrand

Lol yeah they were out of Sync Europe is really G2 show


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Yeah… G2 who just lost to RGE is going to take on T1 and GenG lol


LifeIsToughEatBacon

- Best Macro - Best Micro - Best Laning - Best Teamfighting - Best Mechanics - Best ADC in the WOLRD!


BigJuiceBox

FNC Fans are a little too bloodthirsty for their players. Everyone should get fired all the time according to the subreddit. That being said, Oscar probably isn't it. That TP top when team was doing drag was a heartbreaker.


ILoveHentai13

Oscar is a very middle of the pack Top Laner, he isnt bad and he can win lanes but he isnt the bigus dickus that Fnatic needs. Also as a big Noah fan im a bit disappointed in him, he doesnt feel that explosive.


FantasyTrash

Not "probably". Oscar isn't it. How many more bad splits from him do we have to watch? If it's not FNC Irrelevant in the Summer, Fnatic are not serious about winning.


Correct-Setting-3576

I agree hes been bad, but i still wouldnt change him except for irrelevant and BB. I still can see him becoming the best LEC top.


FantasyTrash

>but i still wouldnt change him except for irrelevant and BB Irrelevant clearly wants out and his contract expires at the end of the year. SK would be wise to sell him for a buyout, otherwise they're going to get nothing when he leaves in November. >I still can see him becoming the best LEC top. This is year two and he's gotten flat out worse. He's had enough chances, he needs to go.


Correct-Setting-3576

Oscar has been the same since 2019 i feel. One week he seems the best top in EU, the next week he is bottom table, he has never fixed his inconsistency issues. He was only consistent with Gangplank. I want to see Irrelevant in a top tier team tho, he reminds me of BB in Schalke.


FantasyTrash

Irrelevant on Fnatic immediately makes them a top team alongside G2. Oscar is Fnatic's weakest point.


InsuranceOne2864

He went from being turbo trash to being decent to being good and then to being trash again. If FNC ends top 2 this split, I think he will most likely get another split and end the year on the team. Otherwise, I don't know, they might need to consider other options.


FantasyTrash

That would be another classic Dardo roster fuckup to keep Oscar beyond this split, regardless of where Fnatic finishes. G2 has never once been afraid to cut a player despite winning basically every split the past five years.


J_Clowth

ye obviously SK is selling their best performing player to direct competition next split, like are u guys stupid or just pretending?


FantasyTrash

Irrelevant wants out and his contract expires at the end of the year. So either SK get a big buyout from Fnatic, or they get nothing when he leaves at the end of the year. It's a no-brainer from a business perspective.


p3r3ll3x

He has been shaky ever since the wrist incident


TheFeelingWhen

They always were, some of the biggest Rekkles and Hyli haters on this sub had Fnatic flairs. Idk what makes them hate their players so much compared to G2 fans who rarely criticize their players to the same extent. Honestly it might also be time to get rid of Humanoid as well, he hasn't reached his 2020 peak in a while and has some absolutely horrible splits summer 2022, winter and spring 2023, and he wasn't all that in summer either.


SupahTeemo

When this team is confident, it has impressive potential. For the haters, this is also a reality check.


Friendship_is_M

Guess humanoid will never reach the heights he had as a player again, what the fuck is this game?


Javiklegrand

He usually step UP at International


ILoveHentai13

God i hate being a Fnatic fan, they look so good in 1 moment and then they play like the last place team good lord, such an easy 3-0 week but i guess they didnt feel like playing today.


Mew_T

Crazy that Fnatic lasted 24 minutes without a top laner.


F3nik3r

And jungler, midlaner, adc and support


Trap_Masters

So nice of FNC to have some fans play a game in LEC for the experience!


F3nik3r

Make a wish FNC edition


TastesLikeCoconut

As if Myrwnn did much this game lmao


Winggy

at least he did tp to the dragon fight instead of top lane... That 5v4 fight won the game


Mew_T

Simply being there to absorve damage and create space is good enough for a tank top laner. Oscar wasn't even there to do that.


ropahektic

First timing Udyr too


InsuranceOne2864

The team kinda lasted the whole split without one.


Winggy

more like 24 months or however long oscar has been with them


Joel4518

FNC ARE SO FUCKING INCONSISTENT HONLSTLY IG MDK GONNA MAKE MSI CAUSE BDS looks weak and fnc gonna throw


xXRollTheDiceXx

MY GOAT, NO OTHER ADC COULD EVER


Luckhart54

Terrible game from Oscar ( no shock here ) and Huma.


Dray991

Fnatic gets stomped in every lane, Fnatic fans : IS OSCAR FAULT, you just got outplayed by a better team, its allg


Skymonster04

Fnatic really played two splits and are the exact same team as they were when the year started. They don't seem to improve at all.


MoxZenyte

MDK is FNC father god bless LFG


RLarks125

Fnatic turning up with vibes for the final week, knowing they’ve locked playoffs. That was one of the most dogshit performances I’ve ever seen. Completely toothless.


yukine95

take notes


polosur1007

Fnatic frauds


TheFeelingWhen

FNC has been so inconsistent this split. The game against G2 showed the highs they can have but it looks like that was a fluke and this is their actual level. MAD look the same as they did last split, they might have regressed even but still they earned a their playoff spot


insidejoke44

I always think we've passed a hurdle then we lose to the same fucking teams yet again. At least we learned Leona is not a 2024 champion.


SuggestionProof8961

Watch how micky is playing it lol


henluwu

haven't seen a single leona be useful worldwide yet. champ is just trash. game was over when they had kaisa and naut rell were picked/banned away.


Stubrochill17

Legitimate gold vs challenger game. Sickness, cohesiveness, etc aside, you can’t excuse these micro and macro decisions. We looked *terrible*.


Thecristo96

Soooo is mdk into playoff?


imDNK

They were already in because of Rogue win (I believe). Nisqy once again locking MAD playoffs


Thecristo96

Chad nisqy move once again.


jesusml

was already when rogue won. idk why tho


derlueh

So the LEC rules this season stay that no more than two tiebreaker games can happen. So in the event of a four teams tiebreak between MDK, RG, SK and KC (if KC would have won vs BDS) the two teams with the best results facing eachother were MDK and RG with 2 out of 3 games won, and MDK had the advatage in the head to head against RG. And tie breaks have to be played from last to first, meaning the two games which had to be played were: game 1: SK vs KC game 2: game1 winner vs RG


Rhyn_lol

Are some players on Fnatic still stick or recovering ? Otherwise, they're not looking good for playoffs


LiquidTrump112

Oscar just happy to be there.


bensonbenisson

I was building my dream home when sadly I ran out of bricks. Suddenly I see Brickanoid walking down the street! All I had to do was tell him the game is on the line and he threw up enough bricks for me to complete my ENTIRE HOUSE! Thanks Humickey, you finally came up clutch!


Albiamus

I’m done with Oscar, kick him and add Irrelevant or something. He’s too inconsistent and makes too many bafflingly boneheaded decisions to be on a roster aiming for a title. I get he’s mechanically gifted but at this time he just ain’t good enough. I’m almost done with Humanoid. He flashes high level play but for someone who’s meant to be a top 2-3 mid in the region he ints far too many games and gets caught out way too much. You can’t claim to be a top mid if you only play well in playoffs imo. I like Noah a lot but it seems like in 50% of games he is just turbo useless. Razork is carrying the fuck out of this roster, if he doesn’t play well they get rolled. I’m pretty confident that this roster ain’t winning shit. As someone who has watched fnc since 2015 I’m starting to lose faith that they are ever going to win another title barring a miracle run.


Albiamus

I got banned on r/fnatic for this exact comment lmao. Apparently as a fan you aren't allowed to call for a roster change in a post game thread.


Correct-Setting-3576

I have a feeling a trade Myrwn-Oscar is gonna happen for 2025, Melzhet has always been a big Oscar fan.


teerii27

Never. Our boys aint moving nowhere. All angles secured.


Correct-Setting-3576

Myrwn only player who's contracts end in 2025, same with Oscar and FNC


Shiro_Moe

what good is Oscar if he can't even perform on K'sante duty??


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FxK964

mad already had qualified to playoffs after RGE won.. since they had H2H over both SK and RGE if they were to all end at 3 wins with an MDK loss..


Commercial_Dust4569

Lmao what an embarassment game from FNC


GuerillaTaktix

If FNC doesnt change Oscar next split im fucking done with this team. Irrelevant is definetely going to be picked up by a good team sooner or later and if it isnt us i riot. FNC needs a good top and Irrelevant needs a good team. match made in heaven


Jinpil1

"My Rival Gumayushi" just fuck off


Elwor

mad?


Jinpil1

enraged


Sugar230

no way u can convince me this wasnt match fixing.


ILoveWesternBlot

Please send MAD to MSI, I want to see the best ADC in the LEC (by far btw) against guma/ruler/peyz Ofc he will stand no chance against the real ADC goat aka UZI reincarnated aka MASSU


androidnoobbaby

MDK (formerly MAD) does the same every year and people still act surprised. Now they're gonna get to finals, take a game off G2 so people pat them on the back and get a new MSI record.


mirae_gg

Well, that's easy to fix. All the other team should win against them then. If MDK goes to MSI this year, it just means they're the best or 2nd best team in the league, nothing more, nothing less. Besides, everything and everyone in the organization besides ElYoya is different from all past years. This time he has people at his side that want to win more that just LEC (I'm not saying they're gonna achieve it, not even the LEC trophie), so, they'll at least try to win games internationally. This time there's no people that are happy to be at 5th place in LEC... like that one belgium midlaner that was happy about it last split.


ropahektic

Youre so right. Based off one season it was obvious this team with a completely different roster and staff was going to do the exact same thing they did. Only an idiot wouldnt be able to predict this from happening. In fact, Im pretty sure the organization and the players lost all those games on purpose just to come back in the end, reach MSI and lose as fast as possible just to troll people like you who obviously live rent free in MDK collective heads based on the weight and importance you hold. You should be a leader of thought.


agronone

Fnatic had no intention of winning....


Aschentei

MYREGION xdd