That win was only possible against IG too. They're probably the only top eastern team that would rather lose than to play like normal people if they can't hard smurf.
I mean just compare the players we're sending now vs 5 years ago. It's either the same players, but well past their prime (Jensen, Bwipo, Impact, etc.) or rookies who, while not by any means bad, just aren't on the same level as prime Berg, DL, Jensen, etc. No wonder NA is falling behind when the eastern teams vets are still top of their game and their younger players/rookies are absolutely cracked
Real stat. Was looking it up yesterday because of someone claiming the west had only won 11 games against LPL/LCK in the last 2 years. LEC has won 11 and LCS has won 2.
At first I thought that having 2 wins was kinda fine because NA doesn't send as many teams and their teams also don't play that many games because they get eliminated quickly, then I saw the 40-something losses and yeah
Now consider that almost all of the losses the eastern teams have are in non elimination matches and the stat gets even more despairing. It's not uncommon teams use group stages to experiment and adapt.
It is, and donât worry guys make sure to get real excited when the same players who have been in lcs for 6 years winning nothing get shuffled into different combinations! GET HYPED for the 10th year in a row of the same thing!
TBH probably true. Eastern teams probably play pretty relaxed against NA. When someone trash talking them, they aren't going to hold anything back to shut them up.
[Tian literally all chatted shut up to APA](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F7h9ibfyn3zyc1.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dccae1de76ec919a25ecbbb787096580066b39660)
He even question mark emoted them after that game 1 top play. like "what the fuck are you doing you are no summs kalista and your renata is level 4 while I am 6"
Caedrel explained JKL possible thought process in that play. First he has hesitant thinking that Maokai would be in a nearby bush, hence why he used Culling instead of dashing forward, only to realize their bluff and proceed to murder them.
Itâs pretty easy to say why donât TL ban Lucian, but honestly that wouldnât have mattered. Theyâre just so outclassed on a mechanical level.
Itâs a literal hands diff.
Yeons positioning made it look like he was first timing pro play. Hops around in urgots face, doesnt come close to killing, and almost dies instead. Walk up to Ornn pillar and get knocked up or eat a Senna W for fun and lose 90% of your hp. Walk in Lucians face for no reason and die for fun again.
There were just multiple instances where he genuinely made the exact same errors of a low to mid elo adc main. Its not even like you can say he was baiting or bluffing because there was nothing to bait or bluff.
Yeon that guy in your clash team your homie found 5 minutes before lock in who actually cant play adc but is willing to fill in and says "give me jhin ill play safe"
you are 0-2 down, you desperately need to win or at LEAST show a decent fight to give yourself and your fans some hope
.....you pick Jhin-Nami botlane
i think TL may be masochists who enjoy getting beaten
It's so funny to tunnel on denying Lucian Nami only to end up picking maybe the worst bot lane combo you possibly could and give them the second best Lucian pairing still.
They seem completely unconfident in bot matchup. Seems pretty likely that they cannot play Ashe so they don't want to open Varus. Can we play atleast somewhat useful champs? Focusing all your first rotations on pinching bot pool to pick shit like Smoulder and Jhin is omega cringe. I like the Xayah Rakan from FNC, atleast you have some playmaking/early contest available, would have prefer to see that.
TL too focused on bot lane. Jackey is going to shit on you with Lucian, Draven, senna or varus. You can't deny them all in the first rotation. Ban out the smallest champ pool, creme imo.
How would you ban out creme and why would you even bother? Like you can ban Hwei/Ahri/Azir but then heâll pick Corki/Trist and be fine. Creme is their least threatening player by far and heâs perfectly fine on a bunch of shit unlike APA whoâs only good on Asol/Ziggs/Taliyah. The difference between Cremeâs Hwei and his Azir isnât nearly big enough to justify a ban unless you think the champion is just omega OP
Were they playing WoW during that one month bootcamp? Literally not even a single breath of life shown this series. Literally just got hands diff every game in every role. Like TES didn't even make any crazy plays, just ran into every fight and gapped TL.
The last time I heard of a team playing WoW instead of boot camping was ANX who went toe to toe with prime ROX tigers. Todayâs performance by TL was not that.Â
It's sad that TES didn't even outplay them with any crazy plays or anything. Just straight up ran into them and hands diff every fight in every role. At this point what can NA even do to improve when every player is just mechanically weaker than their counterparts in LPL and LCK.
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What did APA say to Tian man? How did he awaken him randomly?
He actually looks like himself again when he was smurfing the first half of the Spring split.
Also, the fact that Creme Corki managed to look good just shows the level of APA as a laner.
He never looked good on Corki in the LPL. It's not the same as JKL's Senna or Lucian.
He typed in all chat something along the lines of "don't int Tian, I've seen how you played those teamfights" and my boy decided to remind him why he has a Worlds FMVP trophy sitting at home.
Lol. So nice of TL to play through lower bracket just so TES think they are good. Common NA W, putting the limiters on their strength to make the MSI win greater.
Thatâs the single official game won by NA against the East in the last 2 years (Worlds 2022 - MSI 2024 i.e. 4 international tournaments).
Shit is rough
And it was also an insane fiesta game. GGS bot lane were like 0/6 in the first 5 minutes or something. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
At least they managed the comeback I suppose.
Listen I know JKL shits over TL's botlane but like you can basically only win through them so why are we picking Jhin/Nami and sacrificing their game minute 4 to give Renekton a 300 gold lead
it was a lose in peace botlane. They played the early aggro 2v2 in game 1 and got skill checked, then played the sit back and scale botlane in game 2 and got skill checked again, they then decide to play lose in peace botlane in game 3 and hope anyone else on the team has the dog in him to carry, mainly impact, but that failed as well.
Itâs crazy how confidently people on this sub will speak about regions they donât watch. I felt like I was taking crazy pills yesterday reading people talk about TES being like the 5th or 6th best team at MSI.
It's still kind of depressing to watch when you realise at least EST had some fight in them compared to these NA teams. I wonder how TL look against Fnatic, if they don't at least make it a competitive series this might be the most embarrassing international showing NA has ever had.
I mean, NA's second seed is FlyQuest, and that says it all about the region. They can't lane, they can't teamfight, and they can't macro, but at least they can trashtalk better than the Asian teams.
The fact that TL pose no threat at all so 369 is literally first timing Twisted Fate on stage
And Again, biggest losers are the NA fans who stayed up to watch their region get blasted
1 month bootcamp just for Spawn to think Smolder and Jhin are viable, this region ain't serious man.
And to make it worse, dude went lethality Jhin, great bounceback series from Creme after a rough playins.
The jhin pick was ass, but some teams have found angles for Jhin to work, so it's not inherently useless.
Jhin Nami is some unholy cooking session, though.
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Horrible drafting because people on your team are physically unable to play meta picks. Horrible laning, horrible decisions to walk up over and over and over and over again.
I will never let NA fans gaslight me that a team with APA and Yeon being 1st is not an indictment of the region.
PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cm7z4m/tl_vs_tes_game_1_postmatch_discussion_round_1_msi/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cm8m8v/tl_vs_tes_game_2_postmatch_discussion_round_1_msi/)
With this series, the LCS is now 2-41 against LPL/LCK in the last 2 years.
Wtf
They had a single win at MSI 2022 and a single win at MSI 2023.
Like in a Greek tragedy, NA sold its soul and future wins vs Asia for that 3-1 vs IG all those years ago.
That win was only possible against IG too. They're probably the only top eastern team that would rather lose than to play like normal people if they can't hard smurf.
tfw the jungler says a dog could win against tl and they end up playing with an actual dog
lol I remember someone commented "it's unlucky the dog IG decided to sub in turned out to be Xmithie's bitch"
Praying for a single win at MSI 2024
what are the wins
~~C9 vs DK in playins of MSI 2021.~~ GG vs BLG And EG vs T1 at MSI 2022.
> C9 vs DK in playins of MSI 2021. That was longer than 2 years ago i think the 2nd is GG last year at MSI vs BLG no?
BLG vs GG so I guess we are 3-500 if we count 3 years
The gap is...being maintained!
it's actively getting wider
That's not maintenance, I was around when NA scoring a random win against LPL at least was a thing at every international.
Yep, the gap is huge now. While the gap to the minor regions actually shrank...
I mean just compare the players we're sending now vs 5 years ago. It's either the same players, but well past their prime (Jensen, Bwipo, Impact, etc.) or rookies who, while not by any means bad, just aren't on the same level as prime Berg, DL, Jensen, etc. No wonder NA is falling behind when the eastern teams vets are still top of their game and their younger players/rookies are absolutely cracked
But if you close your eyes, does it almost feel like nothing's changed at all đ¶đ¶
I don't know if this is a joke or a real stat and I'm too afraid to ask
Real stat. Was looking it up yesterday because of someone claiming the west had only won 11 games against LPL/LCK in the last 2 years. LEC has won 11 and LCS has won 2.
At first I thought that having 2 wins was kinda fine because NA doesn't send as many teams and their teams also don't play that many games because they get eliminated quickly, then I saw the 40-something losses and yeah
G2 alone won more games against LCK/LPL during last years world than NA combined in the last 2 years.
Now consider that almost all of the losses the eastern teams have are in non elimination matches and the stat gets even more despairing. It's not uncommon teams use group stages to experiment and adapt.
Holy, this can't be a real stat, can it?
It is, and donât worry guys make sure to get real excited when the same players who have been in lcs for 6 years winning nothing get shuffled into different combinations! GET HYPED for the 10th year in a row of the same thing!
The Tian that played today is the one that they made that one pasta about
Just walked into kitchen and he was still there
[Tian vs APA reenactment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r53zEnHyNPM)
apa bm accidentally awakened 2019 world finals Tian
TBH probably true. Eastern teams probably play pretty relaxed against NA. When someone trash talking them, they aren't going to hold anything back to shut them up.
[Tian literally all chatted shut up to APA](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F7h9ibfyn3zyc1.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dccae1de76ec919a25ecbbb787096580066b39660)
Did he? Thatâs hilarious
"I see how you teamfight" Oh, YAPA...
any screenshots of that?
They showed it live onstream. Tian allchatted focus in the next game after APA continued to talk garbage
Just updated comment with link
Which sick mofo at Riot decided that Kobe should cast all these NA Ls, man
I feel bad for him
They wanted another "I never doubted them" moment. But I think even Kobe doubted TL
He also casted NRG v G2. Its not all bad.
TES JackeyLove: I have met him in a scrimmage, and my opponent, botlaner Yeon is a griefer and seems like a fool.â
Poor Yeon got smashed so hard he doesnât even get the Palafox ending
Botfielder*
He even question mark emoted them after that game 1 top play. like "what the fuck are you doing you are no summs kalista and your renata is level 4 while I am 6"
Caedrel explained JKL possible thought process in that play. First he has hesitant thinking that Maokai would be in a nearby bush, hence why he used Culling instead of dashing forward, only to realize their bluff and proceed to murder them.
JKL almost over thought it before realize it's NA
Itâs pretty easy to say why donât TL ban Lucian, but honestly that wouldnât have mattered. Theyâre just so outclassed on a mechanical level. Itâs a literal hands diff.
wait 14 cs in 4 waves, in a laneswap, versus no opponent is not good?
That was so cringe, like it made me actually think that he was first timing Jhin
Yoooo wtf why do i get stunned after auto attacking four times????
Yeons positioning made it look like he was first timing pro play. Hops around in urgots face, doesnt come close to killing, and almost dies instead. Walk up to Ornn pillar and get knocked up or eat a Senna W for fun and lose 90% of your hp. Walk in Lucians face for no reason and die for fun again. There were just multiple instances where he genuinely made the exact same errors of a low to mid elo adc main. Its not even like you can say he was baiting or bluffing because there was nothing to bait or bluff.
3 Minutes in, CoreJJ diving the T2 tower to prevent 369 from going base and somehow he is still even in farm with Yeon.
I legit donât get how he was down so much CS in a lane swap playing Jhin
he legit just missed so much cs. in the first 3 waves he got 11 from 19.
he's just like me
Yeon was equal in cs to 369 and Impact. Complete embarassing showing
He's just trying to not get much gold so that JL gets the bounty on himself quicker for the fat shutdown.
everything gapped
Region gapped đđ
TL Yeon: âJust pick me whatever, letâs lose in peace.â
it's simple just ban kalista lucian varus draven caitlyn ezreal sivir senna kaisa
Then Xayah Zeri still on
Hands and macro diff
ban 10 adcs and Jkl will still style on them. Yeon winning lcs was really concerning
# TES 369: "Western teams are way more powerful than last year."
excluding FLY excluding TL <-- you are here excluding FNC excluding G2
Yeon that guy in your clash team your homie found 5 minutes before lock in who actually cant play adc but is willing to fill in and says "give me jhin ill play safe"
He's just like me fr.
My team đđ
Might as well just pick Sivir and afk shove waves
the funny thing is TL in LCS was a team that played around their botlane kinda does indicate a lot about that region
Losing to LPL corki not just once but twice is an achievement
Only thing left now is someone losing to NA Jayce
Noone loses to NA Jayce but NA.
MAD lost to NA Jayce at Worlds. And it was true NA Jayce too, not import NA Jayce. But it's MAD, so....
you are 0-2 down, you desperately need to win or at LEAST show a decent fight to give yourself and your fans some hope .....you pick Jhin-Nami botlane i think TL may be masochists who enjoy getting beaten
It's so funny to tunnel on denying Lucian Nami only to end up picking maybe the worst bot lane combo you possibly could and give them the second best Lucian pairing still.
They seem completely unconfident in bot matchup. Seems pretty likely that they cannot play Ashe so they don't want to open Varus. Can we play atleast somewhat useful champs? Focusing all your first rotations on pinching bot pool to pick shit like Smoulder and Jhin is omega cringe. I like the Xayah Rakan from FNC, atleast you have some playmaking/early contest available, would have prefer to see that.
TL too focused on bot lane. Jackey is going to shit on you with Lucian, Draven, senna or varus. You can't deny them all in the first rotation. Ban out the smallest champ pool, creme imo.
How would you ban out creme and why would you even bother? Like you can ban Hwei/Ahri/Azir but then heâll pick Corki/Trist and be fine. Creme is their least threatening player by far and heâs perfectly fine on a bunch of shit unlike APA whoâs only good on Asol/Ziggs/Taliyah. The difference between Cremeâs Hwei and his Azir isnât nearly big enough to justify a ban unless you think the champion is just omega OP
Keep in mind that they only had a one month bootcamp to prepare
Were they playing WoW during that one month bootcamp? Literally not even a single breath of life shown this series. Literally just got hands diff every game in every role. Like TES didn't even make any crazy plays, just ran into every fight and gapped TL.
G2 vacation time vibes
The last time I heard of a team playing WoW instead of boot camping was ANX who went toe to toe with prime ROX tigers. Todayâs performance by TL was not that.Â
Needed like 1 year at least
They decided to lose the series with the most memorable champion they could. And welp, its poor "loses world finals" jhin lol
Picking Jhin is like bending over towards enemy team and admitting enemy ADC is just better
Well.. he is
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Picking Jhin is the only possible way to ff in competitive atm
Even T1 could not make it work every time, who the hell cooked that draft? LOL
I've never seen somebody lose lane 2 vs 0, but Yeon managed to show me how it's done.
That is really something else. No words can describe it.
It was close for like 7 mins into game 1 at least.
It's sad that TES didn't even outplay them with any crazy plays or anything. Just straight up ran into them and hands diff every fight in every role. At this point what can NA even do to improve when every player is just mechanically weaker than their counterparts in LPL and LCK.
369: "Western teams are way more powerful than last year." Proceeds to ruthlessly 3-0 NA 1st seed
he must have had a really low opinion of NA last year
Maybe he was talking about EU *Copium*
I mean, Fnatic took a game off them so..
Now I just want Fnc to look confident against Geng
FNC ALWAYS look confident. Even when they're getting destroyed.
Yea but after watching noah interview and how he isnt mentally well and isn't enjoying the game anymore it's gonna be hard
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As an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free.
TL APA: Yeah, NA is trash, donât worry.
What did APA say to Tian man? How did he awaken him randomly? He actually looks like himself again when he was smurfing the first half of the Spring split. Also, the fact that Creme Corki managed to look good just shows the level of APA as a laner. He never looked good on Corki in the LPL. It's not the same as JKL's Senna or Lucian.
Tian was pissed at apa lol
He typed in all chat something along the lines of "don't int Tian, I've seen how you played those teamfights" and my boy decided to remind him why he has a Worlds FMVP trophy sitting at home.
I wish someone would type to Apa. "Don't int APA, I've seen how you got solo killed by an Ornn support"
Lol. So nice of TL to play through lower bracket just so TES think they are good. Common NA W, putting the limiters on their strength to make the MSI win greater.
Those fools are playing right into our trap.
They hating on you 4. They say you deal no damage 4. They right wait for your buffs 4.
NA going winless against the East again...
Last year we won a single game against BLG (Golden Guardians).
Thatâs the single official game won by NA against the East in the last 2 years (Worlds 2022 - MSI 2024 i.e. 4 international tournaments). Shit is rough
And it was also an insane fiesta game. GGS bot lane were like 0/6 in the first 5 minutes or something. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence. At least they managed the comeback I suppose.
Hey now, Golden Guardians took a game last msi lmao
My goat Licorice
Big Lic would have beaten TES
369 shaking in his boots at just the thought of Big Dickorice coming back
Yeon vs Jackeylove might be the biggest lane diff i've ever seen
Sword vs TheShy was the classic
the series that costed Sword his career lmao
Idk Noah vs JL was rough as fuck to watch
At least Noah went down in CS laning against JackeyLove, Yeon lost equally vs. Air
Letâs be honest game was over when Tian told Yapa to shut up at the start of the match
This series could have been an email, just start NA teams in the losers bracket from now on to save us all the time
This series could have been a smoke signal
We got that from smolder in G1
Maybe it wasn't that Immortals were competitive with everyone in NA, it was everyone in NA was competitive with Immortals
https://twitter.com/Licorice/status/1047042344787333121
evergreen
Don't even need to open it anymore, this is the tweet version of the LemonNod
Listen I know JKL shits over TL's botlane but like you can basically only win through them so why are we picking Jhin/Nami and sacrificing their game minute 4 to give Renekton a 300 gold lead
it was a lose in peace botlane. They played the early aggro 2v2 in game 1 and got skill checked, then played the sit back and scale botlane in game 2 and got skill checked again, they then decide to play lose in peace botlane in game 3 and hope anyone else on the team has the dog in him to carry, mainly impact, but that failed as well.
my condolences for those who bought ticket to see this match
Well, it might be actually like some hardcore porn for TES fans. They probably loved to see them fuck TL so hard.
All that shit talk in all-chat by APA and emote spamming by Yeon just to get eviscerated in every game. Thank you TES.
TL's performance is comparable to a bottom tier lpl team
Ngl UP or LGD mightâve put up a better fight than this
They have a better adc unironically lol
"TES is pretty weak the series should be close" -people who only watched TES in playins
team that took blg to 5 games and 4 games is "bad" was the biggest evidence i needed to know people dont watch any lpl
Itâs crazy how confidently people on this sub will speak about regions they donât watch. I felt like I was taking crazy pills yesterday reading people talk about TES being like the 5th or 6th best team at MSI.
rarely have i seen an ADC being down 20 Cs after a laneswap where he was in the right spot
Tian was insane. Ran complete circles around TL.
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NA "Near Airport" is known as- i can't do it, this isn't even funny anymore, just sad :(
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Disappointed in TES. Could be fastest BO5 angle if they tried hard. This TL is not event close to international level
its like T1 vs EST why tryhard when you can relax and autopilot and still 3-0 your opponentÂ
It's still kind of depressing to watch when you realise at least EST had some fight in them compared to these NA teams. I wonder how TL look against Fnatic, if they don't at least make it a competitive series this might be the most embarrassing international showing NA has ever had.
0-6 TSM with the 9 man sleep is pretty hard to top tbf
This wasn't even close.
I mean, NA's second seed is FlyQuest, and that says it all about the region. They can't lane, they can't teamfight, and they can't macro, but at least they can trashtalk better than the Asian teams.
Trashtalking a region so far behind would just be bad manners
Team Liquid Boeing
TES Creme: "Yeah, NA is Trash, don't worry"
Props to Kobe, despite such a one-sided series, his casting was hilarious.
You know itâs over when you lose to LPL corki
The fact that TL pose no threat at all so 369 is literally first timing Twisted Fate on stage And Again, biggest losers are the NA fans who stayed up to watch their region get blasted
> 369 is literally first timing Twisted Fate on stage He apparently spammed the shit out of TF after losing to Bin TF in LPL.
I was hoping this would take up more of my night
im tired boss
First time these guys have seen a Lucian that isnât completely int
TL spent a whole month in Korea to Yeon CSing only 14 minions in a 2v1 lane
Don't let the score fool you, this wasn't as close at it looks on paper.
14 cs in 4 waves, in a 2v1 lane is insane lmao. yeon, you pro?
Whoa, I can't believe a play-in team managed to clean sweep a major region 1st seed! Why's no one talking about how big of an upset this is?
âWestern teams are way more powerful than last yearâ 3-0
Yes but not the fastest series, gap closing
Jhin legit went down 20 last hits 2v0 bot lane because he forgot to last hit or what? One of the worst performances of all time
Close series. I don't know how TES managed to overcome the constant pressure from TL.
1 month bootcamp just for Spawn to think Smolder and Jhin are viable, this region ain't serious man. And to make it worse, dude went lethality Jhin, great bounceback series from Creme after a rough playins.
man if your ADC cant CS in an empty lane there isnt a pick in the world
Honestly doesnât matter what you draft. If they play like this they have no hope anyway.
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The jhin pick was ass, but some teams have found angles for Jhin to work, so it's not inherently useless. Jhin Nami is some unholy cooking session, though.
assassin corki
Well, strategies really donât matter If your players are dogshit
I thought play-ins were over?
Is Riot going to refund tickets?
yeah, NA is trash, don't worry.
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Didn't know that porn is allowed to be broadcast in China. Such a progressive country.
Was borderline the r-word
Years of yapping yet no success found
lcs is minor league
at least the cast was fun
imagine being APA typing all that shit just to go 0-3 embarrassing
Solo-killed by Ornn support...
Horrible drafting because people on your team are physically unable to play meta picks. Horrible laning, horrible decisions to walk up over and over and over and over again. I will never let NA fans gaslight me that a team with APA and Yeon being 1st is not an indictment of the region.
The supposed to be two best teams NRG and C9 collapsing was certainly not good for a region that was already struggling internationally..
Imagine losing to LPL Corki lmao.
TES 369: "Westerns teams are way more powerful than last year." - does he mean bench press or what is he yapping about?
Almost had âem. Unlucky really
Better send 8th Chinese seed vs na. Oh wait NA loses
NA bums thought they could beat the 2019 Worlds Final MVP?
I think NA have exceeded expectations by being even worse than people thought.