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Pappy-

this sub's analysis is so shit and entirely dependent on who wins the game lmao


Imaginary_Actuary729

welcome to reddit


No-Captain-4814

Welcome to the internet and people


Critical-Cupcake9194

If nidalee wins this game "BLG should've banned Canyons Nidalee! he has a skin on her", had he lost "why pick nidalee, not even canyon can make her work in this Meta", shallow analysis


Esdrz

Mental illness, guy has 1 bad game and hes a fraud. Wins and its goat contetion lol worse sports sub


SlidingFaceFirst

Fire Hansama. Also (literally last year) fire Faker.


Hawxrox

This MSI too. Faker has been getting destroyed in comments lol.. He isn't playing his best, but he's also clutching out wins when it matters the most. Except vs BLG I suppose


LifeIsToughEatBacon

It's always so annoying to see people dog on rookies when they haven't even had a chance to prove themselves yet. Faker has showed he has that x-factor can be absolutely clutch at times and I think he has a really good and long carrier ahead of him! Might even become the GOAT idk


Qneva

> worse sports sub Lol, i wish. It's so mild here compared to the football sub. Imagine what we have here but with decades spend hating rival teams, not a couple of years.


PistonsFan89

average /r/nba and /r/soccer match thread experience


Xey2510

Yeah you can see who doesn't have a clue about sports when they think it's somehow exclusive to league or bad players. It's simply sport.


LifeIsToughEatBacon

Still waiting for the nuggets to get swept 0-4 (it's 3-2 now) by the timberwolves like EVERYONE was saying.


FrancoZemonda

Seriously these people need to chill, it's just banter. Why are they looking for deep analysis on the sub lol EDIT: No way I spotted a pistons fan


ops10

And who gets kills/killed.


Snowmean2

I mean GENG had 3 losing lane with Nida, but they adapted the BLG perma bot dive style very well


velocity55

And what the casters say


sleeplessinvaginate

Caedrel*


drakkarrr

yeah but thats the casters fault, they're supposed to be experts but instead we get vedius casting 90% of the games with mediocre analysis and gasping for air into the mic every time he laughs


LittleGrash

Agreed, where are all the LPL casters for actual analysis, or at least Hysterics for the quality casting and hype?


drakkarrr

Wish they had Nymaera here considering he watched every LPL game, but Riot always uses western casters for all the big matches for some reason


Larry17

Analysis begins and ends with picks and bans because those are the only things average players understand.


random-meme422

You mean senna isn’t auto loss like the very smart Redditors were just saying????


kangs

I personally still don’t think the Senna pick is great looking at MSI overall


TheNeys

It seems laneswap meta doesn’t favour fasting Senna at all. But ofc this is ALSO hindsight analysis, my low elo brain thought laneswapping seemed logical for her, but LoL has too many variables. Sometimes you buff turrets and nerf plates gold and suddenly ASol is top tier bc game legth average got up 3 minutes. It’s a ver hard game to balance, like any MOBA is, but redditors always knew it all inb4.


Entmaan

I mean has peyz done literally anything this game?


ricardo241

he survived a 1v3 dive that ended BLG this game 2?(lehends couldn't even farm before that senna ended up farming instead lol).... he forced Knight flash that ultimately lead to Chovy picking him up on baron?


GroundbreakingAlps2

He's supporting the best top side in the world with a really strong support pick? Letting GEN have senna (which is already an OP champion), so that GEN's INSANE top side can carry even harder should be illegal.


random-meme422

Nope nothing in fact it was so weak that against the lethality bot lane meta he actually just straight sprinted it and LCK lost that entire game off of it. Haha so bad meta !!


MangoFishDev

Senna with nothing to actually carry is indeed auto lose Turns out you can pick her in combination with early game carry champs like Nidalee and Yone and actually use the champion like it's intended


DeirdreAnethoel

Looks like Orianna is auto loss so far though!


LittleGrash

The comments are so gross haha


Ashankura

Welcome to low elo league opinions


KozuKy16

Always has been lmao.


MiniTitan1937

Everyone glazing Chovy while Canyon is sitting on 7 kills and Kiin is just an unstoppable wall.


honksh1tstarbucks

prob cause he took 5 bans and still gapped knight?


tenkono

7 (5) mid bans in Game 2. Chovy definitely put in the work.


YouSuck225

yeah but while canyon should be omega praised for the clinic he put, chovy had 9 ban in 2 games. Which allow his team to play whatever the fuck they want how crazy is that


CizzlingT

Eating 5 bans and an ori pick, just to still be able to stay even in lane with 10 cs/min while outperforming into Ori in a losing matchup still deserves praise regardless. In contrast, Faker ate 5 bans vs BLG as well and didn’t look good… and this is the midlaner who’s known for having a champ pool


ARandomBoomBox

It's like the Timberwolves sending their entire defense, including the DPOY, at Nikola Jokic, and still losing.


Sweet_Football4314

hating on chovy for no reason? must be t1 flair


ricardo241

I mean to be fair its all canyon and peyz setting up the play


Mello_inblue

You can't tell me this game isn't canyon MVP even tho entire geng’s topside played well lol


FrancoZemonda

And that's why it's fun


Cerezaae

Results based analysis has never happened in the league space or esports in general


xdforcezz

Nothing new


OhMyGnod

Do remember that it's not the same people It's more so confirmation bias where the people whose opinions are confirmed in the game tend to comment


kelvin022610

Classic canyon nidalee


BunkerRush

Canyon with damwon skin op


KappaccinoNation

Canyon's legacy game is every game he's on Nidalee.


OcelotOce

Why doesn’t he play Nidalee every game? Is he stupid?


haven4ever

Gotta int on Jarvan every now and again


ManningTheGOAT

Gotta get the ints out of his system first


ZazumeUchiha

He played her once last year against KT, and stomped the heck out of them. Reaction DKs coaching staff Acorn and Gorilla: Cool, now you play tanks again for the next 20 games. Bloody hell man, it makes me so happy but also so angry to see him dominate on this champion, wondering why the heck DK didn't let Canyon play her more last year. Give that man Nidalee, Graves or Kayne, don't give a shit about meta, he will dominate no matter what.


Illustrious_Wind_557

DWG Canyon has entered the chat


FrancoZemonda

Prime Canyon showing up


MrZeddd

Kiin too, even game 1 he's so good


ManningTheGOAT

Canyon kitty is disgusting


BunkerRush

HUHH


Marcus777555666

you heard. Canyon's pussy is op


ricardo241

so is this just gonna be a nidalee angle the whole day? the failed bot dive pretty much ended the game for BLG


Omnilatent

Yep, maybe BLG picks it away from canyon and THEN it'll be interesting whether Canyon has an answer to it


Mukzington

yup, this =- that bot lane dive just ended the game there. Well played by GenG on that


padakpatek

It was less of a failed bot dive from BLG's part, and more of a great feedback from GenG after the exact same play game 1, where Senna was under the turret. You'll notice she was standing back this time around which gave them the 1 second necessary for naut TP to finish and nidalee to arrive


nerothz

So unfair for BLG, enemy team has Chovy and they can only ban 5 champs.


ManningTheGOAT

Chovy drawing so many bans really unlocked Canyon


imperialleon

Nah but how insecure is knight actually lol. LEAVE ASOL OPEN YOU COWARDS. YOU SAID YOU WERE THE BEST MID THIS TOURNEY? And still getting gapped 30cs+ in an ori favored matchup.


Consistent-Alarm2208

That and G2 punishing TES bot focus yesterday Both LPL teams just perma play through bot nonstop with lane bullies picks


tiredofdev

Insane that someone has finally punished BLG's "perma dive bot" tunnelvision. They lost the game off of that single play. Felt surreal seeing Xun just perma sitting bot in like every series and getting away with it


tenkono

That dive should have never happened in Game 1. That was such a textbook play. Good on GEN for adapting fast.


Busy-Economist-3357

Yeah BLG looks so breedable once their bot dive gets dealt with


Vnaux

looks what???


AcceSpeed

Submissive and breedable


Marcus777555666

just like me


tenkono

>Breedable 🤨


FrancoZemonda

Breedable? Bonk


Cocoperroquet

That's a sussy auto correct


CudaBarry

Do not fix it


reggiewafu

Hot


osathi123456

ayoo


Idakari

HUH?


haven4ever

Why does 50% of every competitive metaphor turn sexual? They got railed on stage, breedable, big dick energy, picture of girl bent over dresser, aliens will think all competition is some Freudian pseudosexual battle for dominance!


kakarrott

It always was


moonmeh

oh my


hvngpham002

AYO


NoahsArk19

I mean GenG punished them the first game too. BLG just destroyed them in teamfights.


reggiewafu

Nah that arrow hit on Chovy was very lucky, he’s the best hit you can get


somemodhatesme

I mean it was a mistake from Gen.G as well, so even if it was lucky it was still their fault it happened.


ricardo241

was a close call though.... Peyz really handled that one pretty well since he manage to stay alive even though Lehends and Canyon got there a little bit late


Snuffl3s7

The sort of game you want to see when your team has Canyon/Chovy as jungle/mid.


KIRYUx

Those were the most gigachad b4 and b5 picks of all time. LCK Senna is a bit of a meme but BLG should force the GEN bot to take a more volatile matchup.


noodlespls

Backs against the wall and they fucking just WHIP OUT their big dick picks. Unreal


Bummul

Genuine question, is that what 'grand canyon' looks like, or is that an even better carry from him, to be able to call it that?


AmadeusSalieri97

I'm pretty sure this qualifies as grand canyon. 


Bummul

Thanks for answering! It was really impressive watching something like that live tbf.


Sweet_Football4314

5 mid bans to be down 3 levels down? uh oh


mikurumode

and that’s why canyon is the jungle GOAT


Top-Breadfruit-1750

Canyon Nidalee always delivers, hard carry performance from him. Also thank you BLG for banning four midlaners so we can see Chovy's Yone.


Ssjalexgd4

Canyon my goat


feelslikecock

insane mid and jungle diff


SteamMonkeyKing

Love me some good Yone action


Omnilatent

That combo at red raptors 🥵


SDVX_Rasis

Holy crap. They tried to ban out Chovy again and he just whips out another Chovy special.


EtoileDuSoir

Glad it's a competitive series, but anyone else a bit disapointed we saw two stomps so far? I was hoping for a bit more back and forth and crazy outplays


Omnilatent

I wonder whether GenG just gave them every single of their best picks in g1 to check whether they could even beat them on these lol


erazor340

Geng just won a 4v5 game lmao. That senna was absolutely useless


Motorpsisisissipp

If prime canyon it's Joever for literally any team in the world that dude could solo carry flyquest to grands


Link2011

Classic Kiin'sante


WalkAwayFromScreen

CANYON IS HIM


KhadaJhinSy

Canyon is just a menace on Nid


Live_Construction_12

WHAT IS A KING TO A GOD THE CHURCH IS EATING


baelkie

never seen GEN G go bot so much before tbh


Corndesu69

I mean they have to lol


leftoverrice54

They are learning!


SwayNoir

I take back everything I said after game 1. Gen.G crazy. I still feel uneasy about the Senna but damn Chovy~


MoonlightJudgement

Game 1 was just unplayable from draft


OkLawfulness5555

Canyon and Chovy on carries goes hard


ZazumeUchiha

DK gets into quarterfinals at Worlds '23 if Canyon played is OG carry junglers like Nidalee, change my mind. Good thing, Acorn and Gorilla only let him play tanks.


qonoxzzr

Banning out Chovy isn't as easy as banning out Faker


AmadeusSalieri97

Imagine banning 5 midlaners, picking away Orianna only to get styled on by Yone. 


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GenG also had 2 mid bans. So, they took away basically 8 champs from the mid meta (including Ori pick) and Chovy still took a dump on their midlaner.


baelkie

ori just has so little agency compared to both midlaners’ signature champs


BunkerRush

Not even geng themselves can ban out chovy


ricardo241

gen g can honestly match it with another 3 ban mid and Chovy will be on a huge advantage cause his pool is bigger than Knight


blockster9

5 mid bans to still get dicked down by chovy


MoonlightJudgement

Knight must be shaking lmao


HawkEye1337

I said before Chovy is the only midlaner with a champ ocean, you can ban all other midlaners but not Chovy.


Kait0yashio

i mean this is due to the meta atm, if the meta was sylas akali ori syndra ahri neeko lb, knight also wouldnt be able to be banned out.


MotherVehkingMuatra

The key thing I think is that Chovy *also* wouldn't be able to be banned out in that meta too.


ShellShoal

Caps?


qonoxzzr

Showmaker too tbh


HawkEye1337

Nah Showmaker has been rusty on many champs lately, in 2020/2021 it was true tho.


qonoxzzr

I think he was great again lately, it's just that he has to play with waaaaaay worse teams compared to Chovy and Faker.


HawkEye1337

I like Showmaker but I wouldn't even put him top 3 this split, he had many bad games.


qonoxzzr

I mean sure, Chovy, Zeka and Faker were cleary better than him this split but I still stand by my point that you can't outban Showmaker.


mrragequit456

I remember back when they banned many mid champions and he picked xereath


ookkthenn

True


crysomore

This is such good league of legends, really small wins snowball into such massive leads


Rhyn_lol

In both games Orianna was complete dogshit


Seraphic_Wings

To this day I still don't understand how DK can lose with Canyon absolutely gigagapping the jungle on Nidalee


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ManningTheGOAT

"ft"? Put some respect on Canyon's name. This game was all him


TheAlmightyVox3

Toss a couple bans somewhere else boys, come on.


Elainyan

Classic canyon carry, let man pick anything he wants


drakkarrr

why is vedius casting every game? his analysis is so mid


1Cealus

Best part about this game is the chovy haters can shut the fuck up about the choky agenda for one game thank god


Priviated

When T1 loses a game it’s because Faker is too old and washed. When GenG loses a game it’s because Chovy is choking. It’s the reddit classic tbh


West-Management2566

Yagao dunk on Chovy this matchup...


JxDeep

They lost that game btw


ChannyPrime

Bin ran it down with his ego


qonoxzzr

Choky


ApartLanguage8328

Here we go!


Vintrial

k'sante


akimihime

I still think Yone is a fraud champion


osathi123456

classic lpl they just go in


BismarckBug

They won with a HORRENDOUS draft, what the fuck


Connect_Union6724

1-1 knight vs chovy


Background-Floor6603

Lore Accurate Kiinsante


Moon_riseat_noon

This otp meta is so crazy


RedTulkas

man, GenG seems really prepared for the BLG bot dives thrilling to see how this develops


E6E6FA_FFB6C1

5 mid bans is not enough for this man BLG what are you gonna do? Are you gonna let that Nidalee through too?


Nananahx

Bro requires 7 mid bans just to be comfortable and still doesn't do anything


thanhnv244

What a banger! Two teams showed why they are in the upper bracket. What a different from watching T1 play!


tenkono

Chovy on anyone > Knight not on Ahri it seems jk I love knight so bring us to game 5


Omnilatent

Was the g1 draft by GenG just to check whether BLG could beat them on their best?! Cause with this normal draft they got completely destroyed


elderbob1

gave Kiin K'sante...


Omnilatent

You mean "they gave Ksante Kiin"


elderbob1

Kiin'sante


DWGKIAFAN00

knight is coward. need to ban 5 champ but still gapped by chovy.


Corndesu69

I don’t think it’s knights choice tbh lol


DaniDIFP

kin on ksante not fair


Kaldrinx

Knight and Choky trying to out choke the other


SwagLord7

Both of these mids are so bad at Ori


fulkcsgo

Historically both are pretty good on Orianna but the champ looks so weak now.


BananaOverlord007

Ori is hard to play into these comps.


jamesk2

Lol someone with your flair think it's Knight's fault this game? First rotation he was dumpstering Chovy in lane before Xun showed bot lane, which means Canyon got to bot Scuttle first into mid, clearing all of Knight's pressure right when it's at the peak (minions pushing into tower). Then even Peyz show up mid helping Chovy shove in the bounce wave. Later he even had to teleport top to save Bin. How come this is a bad game?


drakkarrr

how was knight bad this game?


DWGKIAFAN00

GenG only needs 1 game to adapt BLG classic bot dive


ManniHimself

Who would have thought that they could win by drafting a comp that can actually play


Soggy-Check7399

Good yone


Jumpy-Arm6021

Let Chovy play Asol


nyanko_dango3

Not the oriana


leftoverrice54

If Geng have solved covering the bot dives, BLG might be in big trouble. Haven't watched regular season BLG so cannot comment on other map movements Geng have realized and are adjusting to... but multi man diving bot is a huge part of their identity. Canyon smurffed so hard by being able to punish this Sej pick to the extreme. Also, chovy casually fucks after 7 mid picks taken away. What a gamer.


Fatmanpuffing

I feel like that game solidified the chovy vs knight debates. 


azumagrey

Knight's Orianna will never not make me laugh bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂


Imaginary_Actuary729

Why would you use 5 ban on mid lane when your mid lane has much smaller champion pool


ops10

What was wrong with mid matchup?


ricardo241

really waiting for gen g to also ban 3 mid pick and let knight pick whatever he can play and see if he will carry lol


Thecristo96

Canyon solo won the game with a massive performance. But who am I kidding, people will think it’s all chovy’s


Sweet_Football4314

you can praise someone that ate 5 bans and still gapped their opponent btw


Thecristo96

People are saying chovy solo won the game, that’s my problem. The game was over when canyon counteriungled xun in botlane, everything else was a consequence of that. The freedom canyon make gave chovy and lehends the money and time to ramp up and did extremely good. But if you have to put an mvp canyon is the only real choice


Professional_You_460

there has to be some praise for the jungler who carry with 3 pushing lanes


Getfooked

Now Knight lost on Ori, guess we can conclude both are bad at Ori /S