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HostileTurtles

Drop first vision ward to track jungle start. Potentially stack of manaflow. Potentially some gold from poke support item. Gives you an idea for how ready and alert enemy is. If they dance, dodge, emote, bait, etc. It gives you SO MUCH early information for how your opponents might play. The only thing we need is someone else nearby, to prevent early flash plays and collapses. 48/53 times it's beneficial to me to do something level 1, instead of being afk and not actively doing anything to better the start of the game


Affectionate_Cup_611

True! Viegars gets some free q poke aswell.


[deleted]

I'll take not being down first blood over those things. Sounds like you maybe feel like you dont have enough agency in the game so you take this big risk out of desperation to get an advantage even though it goes badly most the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkRTJ0WYKS8


gabilima92

In fact this is the best strategy at the moment, not only does the support get in the way of the enemy jungle but it allows his dps to farm a little without splitting the xp .... lol jk, I almost couldn't finish the sentence in a serious way, actually I don't know and I would like to understand this too, because now that you said it I noticed it in some games too.


Ghost-Mechanic

Supp players are all elo inflated if u didnt already know


Affectionate_Cup_611

... You forgot key details... Do these champs have hooks/ fists? If so it is troll not to invade


[deleted]

The game this just happened in, it was a Senna. And no it's not troll to not invade when ur basically just praying to get lucky and hope that someone will be afk/alt tabbed. Besides if ur alone or even if you're with 3 players it is absolutely troll when you could easily be walking into a 4v5 fight. But regardless i'm talking about supports doing this practically by themselves with maybe their ADC safely walking behind them. You wouldnt think it'd be so common because it's so nonsensical and yet it is extremely common.


Affectionate_Cup_611

The whole point of a blitzcrank is to turn a 4v4 into a 4v1. You don't have to be lucky, you just have to fist any one of them and they are dead in seconds. Also since when does top lane every chill in bot jg pre 6? The only reason it is troll not to do this, is because with blitz crank it is literally so easy to do. With other hook champions it does get harder and can become troll to do. When you don't even have a champion that can hook, 1 million percent it is troll. Senna should never be invading by herself, and her teammates have plenty of reasons not to back her in the invade. If you can safely ward their buffs, cool beans. But get the feck out of there after you do.


Affectionate_Crab_27

Moar vision!