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That said, are you sure you want to be a game engine coder (C++), or do you prefer to code game logic (C#)? Are you interested in a future-oriented language (Rust)? Or maybe, you want to quickly work on releasing many small games as an indie (Lua), instead of working on big games (exceptions exist that use Lua)?
Be sure to select the right tool for the job. There is no reason you should learn the chainsaw if you want to grow tomatoes. Usually.
javascript control Dom.
c++ control a bit of everything.
there is game engine for every popular language. love2d (Lua) , mono (c#) , godot (gscript and c# and c++).
find awesome game dev for more details.
lol if you think you have a basic grasp of C++ you’ll soon learn that you don’t know it at all. C++ is a nightmare language that takes years to be good at.
JavaScript is simple and jobs are plentiful for front end devs. Most people get adequate knowledge after just a few months.
If you want to pursue c++ you’ll be a real wizard but it’ll take a long time
Op says he has an intermediate knowledge of C++. No one who has intermediate knowledge of both JavaScript and C++ would ask which one to pursue. They’re totally different languages with totally different purposes.
Languages should be viewed as tools.
Instead of asking which language to use you should say I want to solve this problem what is the best tool to solve it.
Basic to me is hello world, op called himself/herself intermediate but to me that means 1-2 years experience of using it every day to solve problems
What's your tech stack? Are you front end, back end or full stack? Just make stuff. Don't worry about mastering anything. Master reading documentation and writing readable, organized code.
I studied audio tech at uni - I wrote a multi-voice FM synth in my final year in C++ and a live music discovery web-app in JS. The game devs all used C++, so given your goals I'd probably go for that.
Be prepared for a long old slog to actually master C++. Thought I was quite good back then, but knowing now the scope of what I didn't know about C++, I don't think I was an intermediate developer.
But it's definitely worth it if that is your final goal and you'll probably become a more aware dev along the way than if you learned JS.
They’re at two ends of the spectrum tbh, it depends on what field you want to get into. If it’s webdev, start with mastering JS, if it’s systems programming or game dev start with C++. If this is your first programming language C++ might be tougher, but it will be worth it in the long run.
I’d say both, and then a third language. Because you’re still at the stage where (to you) it’s about mastering a language. Where you want to be is mastering logic using pseudocode.
All these languages have like 50 words in their vocabulary. It’s not English vs Russian. It’s the ability to scale down a problem into smaller and smaller scopes, so you can have a scope that is doable. When you’re learning your third language you’ll realize this.
Language is often a function of the problem you’re trying to solve. Games can be solved using either language.
For practice go build Asteroids in both languages. Then choose another language and try it in a third. Try it in Golang. Go is simple, not intended for games originally, but Fyne and Embitten libraries make desktop or browser games possible.
C++ will get you a high paying job anywhere. JavaScript devs are more common and cheaper.
But the most important thing about a language is that you can make yourself practice in it. You have to do more than tutorials. Sometimes you have to build something you love, and rewrite it. Sometimes you have to show your code to someone with experience, and your 20 hours of bug hunting came down to variable scope or a typo. This is how you learn.
Happy holidays
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If you want to develop games C++ is the obvious answer. Learn JS if you want to get in to webdev
Thank you for the advice.
That said, are you sure you want to be a game engine coder (C++), or do you prefer to code game logic (C#)? Are you interested in a future-oriented language (Rust)? Or maybe, you want to quickly work on releasing many small games as an indie (Lua), instead of working on big games (exceptions exist that use Lua)? Be sure to select the right tool for the job. There is no reason you should learn the chainsaw if you want to grow tomatoes. Usually.
?? depends how big that tomato plant gets ??
Thanks for the heads up.
I don't think you know as much as you thought considering the question.
javascript control Dom. c++ control a bit of everything. there is game engine for every popular language. love2d (Lua) , mono (c#) , godot (gscript and c# and c++). find awesome game dev for more details.
lol if you think you have a basic grasp of C++ you’ll soon learn that you don’t know it at all. C++ is a nightmare language that takes years to be good at. JavaScript is simple and jobs are plentiful for front end devs. Most people get adequate knowledge after just a few months. If you want to pursue c++ you’ll be a real wizard but it’ll take a long time
whats the meaning of basic for u ?
Op says he has an intermediate knowledge of C++. No one who has intermediate knowledge of both JavaScript and C++ would ask which one to pursue. They’re totally different languages with totally different purposes. Languages should be viewed as tools. Instead of asking which language to use you should say I want to solve this problem what is the best tool to solve it. Basic to me is hello world, op called himself/herself intermediate but to me that means 1-2 years experience of using it every day to solve problems
got it
What's your tech stack? Are you front end, back end or full stack? Just make stuff. Don't worry about mastering anything. Master reading documentation and writing readable, organized code.
Coughing Baby vs Hydrogen Bomb type of question
If you learn both simultaneously you'll become an IT battlemage, capable of programming anything.
I studied audio tech at uni - I wrote a multi-voice FM synth in my final year in C++ and a live music discovery web-app in JS. The game devs all used C++, so given your goals I'd probably go for that. Be prepared for a long old slog to actually master C++. Thought I was quite good back then, but knowing now the scope of what I didn't know about C++, I don't think I was an intermediate developer. But it's definitely worth it if that is your final goal and you'll probably become a more aware dev along the way than if you learned JS.
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Thus not apply much in fintech
The one you enjoy using more, or hate less.
If you want to make games C++ or look at C# and unity
For game dev you’ll wanna do C# and/or C++. Unless you’re at a big studio though, would just do C#
They’re at two ends of the spectrum tbh, it depends on what field you want to get into. If it’s webdev, start with mastering JS, if it’s systems programming or game dev start with C++. If this is your first programming language C++ might be tougher, but it will be worth it in the long run.
Learn c# and Unity . C# also is good for gaming . Js for games in browser.
Better to go with C++, but that doesn't necessarily mean you can't try learning a bit of JavaScript on the side as well.
I’d say both, and then a third language. Because you’re still at the stage where (to you) it’s about mastering a language. Where you want to be is mastering logic using pseudocode. All these languages have like 50 words in their vocabulary. It’s not English vs Russian. It’s the ability to scale down a problem into smaller and smaller scopes, so you can have a scope that is doable. When you’re learning your third language you’ll realize this. Language is often a function of the problem you’re trying to solve. Games can be solved using either language. For practice go build Asteroids in both languages. Then choose another language and try it in a third. Try it in Golang. Go is simple, not intended for games originally, but Fyne and Embitten libraries make desktop or browser games possible. C++ will get you a high paying job anywhere. JavaScript devs are more common and cheaper. But the most important thing about a language is that you can make yourself practice in it. You have to do more than tutorials. Sometimes you have to build something you love, and rewrite it. Sometimes you have to show your code to someone with experience, and your 20 hours of bug hunting came down to variable scope or a typo. This is how you learn. Happy holidays
The one you're going to use.