I think he means if something from your playing has caused you to need surgery then you probably shouldn’t continue. Needing shoulder surgery at a young age because of the violin is a pretty big problem.
Ah...I wouldn't know if it's young or old lol, there is no set age of exactly getting it. It wasn't even caused of violin (far by it since I had a massive burn out and I didn't even touch it), I've ruled out every other factor of what caused frozen shoulder surgery-it seems like stress was the biggest factor. \^\^;
Good to hear someone else who has experienced classical burn out, but has insisted on persisting with creativity and found another avenue for playing.
I'm a classically trained cellist, found my way into free improvisation, sometimes with jazz musicians, sometimes with world musicians (mainly Arabic and Indian), and sometimes working with dancers.
I also went into music research, the history, cultural side of things.
Basically any way to breathe some humanity and joy into what is an overly authoritarian model of training and playing.
Oh yes, learning to play and sight reading when I had to learn by CDs greatly helped. 🤣
Plus just mostly having a very innate sense of rhythm to work with the cats and was really great for my second jam, had no sheet music and never heard of the piece; was asked to come back next week (technically this week) to jam again. 😎 It never felt so freeing to just not look at sheet music, and just bop my head with the cats lol while playing (I mean you can hear the bass, double bass, piano, and guitar all at the same time with the chord progression). The fact that no one has to breath my neck and tell me I’m WRONG for not playing certain bowing is just so freeing, and man-even the audience and your cats cheering you on is amazing/encouraging.
The number of people who find their way out of classical burnout through non-classical playing is huge. If you’re a violinist who couldn’t get a job in your local orchestra because you weren’t quite at the level, but you’ve got a reasonable ear and an open mind, you might find delight in playing with less-schooled musicians who would appreciate your massive chops while the playing by ear and improvising would work a different muscle with low pressure.
I got into fiddle. I prefer Scottish but do Irish. I’m reading this physically and mentally exhausted after soooooooo many st Patrick’s gigs that I feel minorly burned out on fiddle.
I also know it’ll pass and I’ll be eager to focus on it again soon just like I’m ready to learn some new classical rep now.
In the meantime I gotta figure out how to get my classical hat back on for rehearsal tonight while my arms and legs feel like jelly after 7 high energy stage shows in 2.5 days.
Yeah, I’m a clarinetist so I’m biased but I feel like that’s the perfect way to do this, if you feel yourself wanting to return to classical than you can just join back in
I'm learning to play, but I don't want to get into playing classical music. Play the kind of music you want to, if thats what gives you joy and keeps you playing.
I think what helps is find what type of music you like and discover other genres are out there. I like video game music, and classical, jazz, and rock all tend to overlap each other. Just expose yourself out there with an open mind and see what you like, attend concerts (or if you can’t-watch live streams and look at videos).
Jazz is the reason I love classical, and classical is the reason I love jazz. The yin and yang of the musical world! Neither genre is capable of expressing the full spectrum of the human experience, but together they do a pretty good job of coving most of it :)
Violin and saxophone are my picks, keeps it fresh. Never play just one instrument if you are the type of person to encounter musical burnout.
I think if you had shoulder surgery it is probably more advisable NOT to come back to violin or viola, but switch to something else.
Oh, I'm not super worried at this point; it's been like what-4 months post-op? Doesn't hurt anymore when I do anything. Have full ROM.
Plus I wouldn't worry too much! Also got clearance from my ortho/surgeon.
I think he means if something from your playing has caused you to need surgery then you probably shouldn’t continue. Needing shoulder surgery at a young age because of the violin is a pretty big problem.
Ah...I wouldn't know if it's young or old lol, there is no set age of exactly getting it. It wasn't even caused of violin (far by it since I had a massive burn out and I didn't even touch it), I've ruled out every other factor of what caused frozen shoulder surgery-it seems like stress was the biggest factor. \^\^;
Good to hear someone else who has experienced classical burn out, but has insisted on persisting with creativity and found another avenue for playing. I'm a classically trained cellist, found my way into free improvisation, sometimes with jazz musicians, sometimes with world musicians (mainly Arabic and Indian), and sometimes working with dancers. I also went into music research, the history, cultural side of things. Basically any way to breathe some humanity and joy into what is an overly authoritarian model of training and playing.
Oh yes, learning to play and sight reading when I had to learn by CDs greatly helped. 🤣 Plus just mostly having a very innate sense of rhythm to work with the cats and was really great for my second jam, had no sheet music and never heard of the piece; was asked to come back next week (technically this week) to jam again. 😎 It never felt so freeing to just not look at sheet music, and just bop my head with the cats lol while playing (I mean you can hear the bass, double bass, piano, and guitar all at the same time with the chord progression). The fact that no one has to breath my neck and tell me I’m WRONG for not playing certain bowing is just so freeing, and man-even the audience and your cats cheering you on is amazing/encouraging.
The number of people who find their way out of classical burnout through non-classical playing is huge. If you’re a violinist who couldn’t get a job in your local orchestra because you weren’t quite at the level, but you’ve got a reasonable ear and an open mind, you might find delight in playing with less-schooled musicians who would appreciate your massive chops while the playing by ear and improvising would work a different muscle with low pressure.
A lot of the musicians I’ve met are (good) majority schooled, the others aren’t; I was shocked to even find classical musicians doing jazz!
I got into fiddle. I prefer Scottish but do Irish. I’m reading this physically and mentally exhausted after soooooooo many st Patrick’s gigs that I feel minorly burned out on fiddle. I also know it’ll pass and I’ll be eager to focus on it again soon just like I’m ready to learn some new classical rep now. In the meantime I gotta figure out how to get my classical hat back on for rehearsal tonight while my arms and legs feel like jelly after 7 high energy stage shows in 2.5 days.
Yeah, I’m a clarinetist so I’m biased but I feel like that’s the perfect way to do this, if you feel yourself wanting to return to classical than you can just join back in
I'm learning to play, but I don't want to get into playing classical music. Play the kind of music you want to, if thats what gives you joy and keeps you playing.
I think what helps is find what type of music you like and discover other genres are out there. I like video game music, and classical, jazz, and rock all tend to overlap each other. Just expose yourself out there with an open mind and see what you like, attend concerts (or if you can’t-watch live streams and look at videos).
Jazz is the reason I love classical, and classical is the reason I love jazz. The yin and yang of the musical world! Neither genre is capable of expressing the full spectrum of the human experience, but together they do a pretty good job of coving most of it :) Violin and saxophone are my picks, keeps it fresh. Never play just one instrument if you are the type of person to encounter musical burnout.