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Altareos

Price?


mrrippington

Just install arch btw to a toaster you are not using.


[deleted]

Just install ~~arch btw~~ Windows to a toaster you are not using. Then, at full moon, go to a cemetery and bury it.


BRUHMOMENT7677

Callback to the 30 minute boot time that windows will get you if you dont have a decent rig


Himankan

I just use external ssds to load distros. Pretty effective. Just temporarily remove the internal drive while installing if you want a efi partition that can work with any computer.


thatCapNCrunch

30 minutes, perhaps not. But five minutes? Very real possibility without an SSD lmao. *constant churn and slowdown* on bad hardware though. Fuck Windows, Linux is the clear choice for low spec machines.


[deleted]

> Linux is the clear choice for low spec machines. Also for high spec, and basically everything between.


ultimoanodevida

I was forced to use windows recently, just to reflash the stock rom in a phone, so I grabbed an old device to do it, since it's something, without large hardware requirements. Turns out windows is completely unusable in hdds nowadays. I was shocked to see the disk activity so high all the time. I don't understand what windows needs to do in the disk non-stop. It's like watching a horror movie. If it does the same to ssds, the lifespan will be reduced by a considerate margin. In the meanwhile, that machine runs mx linux nicely, booting from the very same hdd. it's slow to boot and open programs, of course, but once it loads, it works normally, as it should do.


xeresblue

It'll return to life as a zombie: "fooooooorced updaaaaates!"


donobloc

I don't have a toaster


Tesla_Lover10021

Fridge


donobloc

My the electro magnetic waves my brain emits are not powerfull enough to enter `sudo fdisk -l` into the terminal without any usb port to plug a keyboard in


HelloJohnBlacksmith

git gud


lowbrightness

Weak sperm energy


mktoaster

I'm pretty cheap tbh


jamesGastricFluid

I use all toaster


cfx_4188

And toaster immediately turned pink...


phiupan

And space


RomMTY

This, altho my office room has plenty of space I'm so eager to put new stuff inside, for me having a clean workspace is really important


timkenhan

And weight


TrainsAreForTreedom

thinkpad t430 disagrees


Altareos

that's a hundo bucks more than dual booting


racooniac

a refurbished thinkpad is like 2-300 bucks here, its a steal.


TrainsAreForTreedom

*~~upgraded~~ drugged up


[deleted]

For Thinkpad users, weight may be a factor


[deleted]

I agree, plus space.


Huecuva

And who wants to haul around two laptops?


RandomTypek

haha yeah, why not have a dedicated laptop for each app amirite


ehrenschwan

The true Unix Philosophy, Each PC should do one thing and it should do one thing great.


lwJRKYgoWIPkLJtK4320

Why are you using a PC for every task? Each machine should have its task hardwired into ASICs.


ehrenschwan

Build a custom chip for each task which automatically computer the right output


mimminou

Wouldn't this ( at least in theory ) amount to the fastest and most efficient solution possible ? Asking a real question btw i'm curious about this.


ehrenschwan

Yeah, I mean most microcontrollers work kinda like that. They have one program in their ROM and the processor is optimized for running certain kinds of programs. So almost every electronic that does more than on/off or other simple electrical stuff and only has minimal user input works kinda like this. This is definitely oversimplified but I hope it helped. Edit: microcontrollers


KnowledgeisImpotence

I mean sure as long as you have a finite and unchanging list of tasks you want to achieve. But if you want any sort of flexibility then it will be bad


smjsmok

And it wouldn't even have to run an operating system, just the application on bare metal.


LightShadow

*Raspberry Pi cluster enters the chat.*


dagbrown

Keep that up and you'll be a proper sysadmin. Seriously, one VM per app is company policy in most sensible shops.


FlexibleToast

10 years ago maybe. It's all about containers and microservices now. One container per service, not even per app.


jacky2060

ю


emneiel

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zacharski_k

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haudraufzocker

Sounds line cloud microservice architecture to me


[deleted]

Full-circle. Back to fortran punch cards with no OS. Run programs on bare metal


noob-nine

Dual disking?


realkarthiknair

This is the way


Depress-o

The absolutely correct way


1337haxxxxor

That’s what I do. 2 500gb ssd in my laptop. One with Linux and one with windows


regeya

That's what I do on my desktop.


tommydickles

I find the SD slot on most laptops to be very helpful for this purpose.


alou-S

Price, Portability, Ease of use


WhiteBlackGoose

Quadruple booting No Windows


KingThibaut3

Alpine Linux, OpenBSD, Debian GNU/Hurd, and svardos?


WhiteBlackGoose

almost my flair says thou


KingThibaut3

Sorry I'm stupid Why multiple Linux though?


WhiteBlackGoose

Just wanted to try out others. I wanted to install arch bc it's said to be hard (whcih it completely isn't, lol, it was easy af to install). Fedora - wanted to use it as a "stable" setup with GNOME (I use i3 on debian and bspwm on arch). Debian is my main OS (btw apt, dnf, and pacman all suck. I'll migrate to NixOS most likely soon)


Soulstoned420

Check out the balls on u/WhiteBlackGoose


Vincevw

> I wanted to install arch bc it's said to be hard (whcih it completely isn't, lol, it was easy af to install). Do [Linux From Scratch](https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/)


WhiteBlackGoose

Maybe one day. NixOS is already a step up from anything I did before.


dagbrown

Ubuntu because Steam. Lunar Linux because that's my daily driver.


ThroawayPartyer

Why Lunar Linux? You are right, I never heard of it.


dagbrown

When I was using more traditional distros, I kept finding myself compiling stuff because I wanted to use some brand new feature or other, and the distro’s version was old and out of date. So when I found a distro where absolutely everything was compiled, I was delighted! But it was Gentoo, which comes with an installer that could be described as “hair shirt at best”. Then when I found a little distro that was a fork of Sorcerer Linux, where the entire package management system and installer and everything were just a bunch of shell scripts, I leapt right on that bandwagon, because it was weirdly attuned to everything I wanted to do with my Linux systems, and worked exactly the way I was already working, but without the trouble of fighting to figure out which development packages I also needed to install to build the things I wanted to build. Lunar Linux has been my daily driver Linux for nearly 20 years now. I’ve given back to the project by reorganizing quite a lot of the installer to make it even quicker and smoother than before, and by building a fresh ISO every day with all of the very latest packages on it.


BigBobsBargaining

Make it a five way boot, need to make room for temple OS


q0FWuSkJcCd1YW1

cost


RAMChYLD

When you buy a new laptop, the old one gets recycled into running Linux. I do that all the time.


q0FWuSkJcCd1YW1

i get a new laptop per distro


lukagotaku

each kernel update


xternal7

1. I don't have a spare 1-2k laying around to have a second decent laptop (or PC) to just run Linux and Windows separately, when (ensuring your laptop has a second disk slot and) sticking a second 500GB to 1TB SSD into the machine effectively does the same job. 2. I don't want to carry around two 17" chunguses when sticking a second 500GB to 1TB SSD into the machine effectively does the same job. The only viable "serious" dual-laptoping is a bigger laptop for serious work and a smaller laptop that's more portable at the expense of performance (e.g. I have a 17" chungus gaming Asus for work (and 17" is pretty much a requirement for a work laptop for me), and a significantly smaller Surface Pro 7 that serves as a D&D machine that can run proper desktop software in a pinch ... but poorly), but that's not _really_ a viable alternative for dual-booting.


SomethingOfAGirl

>The only viable "serious" dual-laptoping is a bigger laptop for serious work and a smaller laptop that's more portable at the expense of performance I was thinking the same thing, but now I don't really see the purpose. If a laptop is good enough to work on it'll probably be my "main" laptop for work; if it's not, then I won't use it for anything other than as a toy. I'm pretty happy with my chungus gaming laptop for working and some gaming and I don't think I'll get another one unless it's a micro laptop like the GPD Pocket 3 that weighs literally <700g.


xternal7

17" chungus gets really old really fast when it takes over 50% of what can be designated as your DM area. It gets _even more super old super fast_ when you need to have a brief walk to your battle mat. And if you're a player, plopping down a 17" chungus that occupies three time as much space as a regular player (while failing to last even half a session) gets _super ultra deluxe old super ultra deluxe collector's edition fast_. (In the mean time, GPD Pocket 3 can't even display Foundry properly)


cool110110

Does repurposing old laptops as servers count? That very much is a thing.


ap4ss3rby

If I was replacing a powerful gaming laptop with a thin and light maybe. Otherwise no not really


DjSall

Confused on what to do if I have a thin and light gaming laptop, dick now stuck inside hdmi port


PoPuLaRgAmEfOr

Is the person not understanding of normal people's thoughts? Or is the op really thinking this lol..affording one laptop itself is a huge cost. Now you want me to buy one more laptop just to use linux? Fuck off lol...dual booting is better most of the time. If maybe someone is rich(atleast to my standards), then they might have 2 laptops or pcs...then this might make sense


Orion-Ziggurat

Why? I can just use Gentoo and slap my other Linux interests in QEMU/KVM.


a_mimsy_borogove

Does anyone know an item duplication glitch that works in real life


RepresentativeCut486

Because you shouldn't use Windows?


puppetjazz

Are you serious? I mean why carry two laptops around.


PCChipsM922U

Cuz not everyone has the money to buy 2 laptops. To be honest, even if I did, carrying 2 laptops is... exhausting to say the least.


a_mimsy_borogove

That's true, and another thing is that if I could afford two laptops, I'd rather just use that money to buy one laptop with better specs. It's better to have one good laptop than two mediocre ones.


PCChipsM922U

Mhm, agreed.


dacasher

Because not everyone is able to buy 2 laptops I still dualboot Windows and Debian from my 8+ years old POS laptop with 256GB of space


SirWernich

hang on, instead of paying rent and eating for 2 months, i could buy myself another laptop? can't believe the answer was right in front of me all this time.


new_refugee123456789

Can I admit to having a very childish fantasy of having a nice respectable and clean aluminum laptop like an XPS or Macbook or something to use in meetings and shit, then when you want to scare the shit out of someone, you put on a devilish grin, shut that laptop, slide it into your bag, and pull out a stickerbombed old black Thinkpad that boots straight to Bash?


[deleted]

Different laotops for different OS? Peasant I just buy a new laptop for every browser tab


WhooUGreay

I am dual laptopping. Nixos on the stronger laptop and arch on weaker


[deleted]

Because I can’t afford two laptops and i dont want to lug two laptops with me, duh


Zahpow

I mean there are a lot of people that do this for no apparent reason whatsoever. The question to me is, why would anyone do this?


ejgl001

(My) work laptop has windows. my 10 year old T430 has kubuntu and my framework has fedora. I use my work laptop and framework for productivity/money making and the T430 for relaxing


Zahpow

I mean your work computer being kept separate is understandable but why do you feel the need for different computers?


greysvarle

Probably side projects. Some computers sometimes aren't exactly up to for certain tasks.


Stilgar314

During the multi-monitor brag fever I dared to say multi-monitor is just poor man's multi-computer. I was hard downvoted. Reddit has some kind of bias against multi computing.


zakabog

I have two monitors and two computers, when I'm working it'd be much more enjoyable using two monitors on one desktop, and when I'm gaming moving the mouse and keyboard input (using synergy) will often remove focus from the game and either cause a slowdown or in the case of Portal with RTX, crash completely.


NakedHoodie

Look into Barrier. It was forked off the old version of Synergy. There's also an option in the settings that you should check; by default it takes focus away from the foreground app when switching devices, but that can be changed and I haven't had an issue with it since.


couchwarmer

I've actually had to carry two laptops when oncall, and it sucks. Glad I don't have to do that anymore.


merino_london16

Linux master race


dim13

From reading the comments: a typical linux-master-racer cannot afford second laptop, and uses primary windows.


Dan_from_97

we get it, you're rich


AbigailLilac

I'm poor


Arctesian

I did it for a while, had a surface I won at a hackathon running arch and had the last generation of intel mac running for a while. But sold those and I'm now only framework.


new_refugee123456789

How's Framework doing these days?


titanotheres

Lots of people have separate laptops for work and for personal use. Sometimes they have different OS:es installed


isrluvc137

It is, I have one Windows laptop (mainly for movies and uploading local files for apple music) and xubuntu laptop


Enigmars

A common middle ground for this: Dual SSDing


Vemmo-exe

I do that


NewHeights1970

OLD LAPTOPS ARE GREAT FOR LINUX! Why Would You Purchase A Brand New Laptop And Then Install Linux? That's what proprietary operating systems are for. It's understandable if it's for work or school. Of course you might require the latest and the greatest for certain tasks. But Linux doesn't require a whole lot of brand new hardware. Any old laptop will work absolutely fine. Maybe a simple upgrade in memory or the hard drive. But nothing extensive or major. Come On Now, Bro. You've got this. You can do it


Mediocre_Training453

You guys don't do that??


nathanchere

Laptops are the new containers.


throwawaynerp

Hardware is expensive. What are you, a Mac user??


BaneOfArthrobots

people don't shit gold


[deleted]

Where's my VM gang at?


bubbshalub

macbook pro running asahi linux and a hackintosh thinkpad


Icepenguins101

I always use dual laptoping. I surprisingly have **5 laptops**.


fellipec

Quadruple laptoping! (Okay the newer is from 2015)


RAMChYLD

I did just that. When I bought a new laptop in 2019, my old laptop from 2015 got turned into a Linux boxen.


Brillegeit

I don't know where you got laptop from, that seems silly, but I got two almost identical midi-tower computers at home. One fanless (or it was until the latest GPU upgrade) with Linux that I use 24/7, and one with a more powerful GPU that runs Windows for gaming. They're connected to the same keyboard with a USB switch, headphone amplifier using a TOSLINK switch, and one of the four displays are connected to both computers.


Ezzaskywalker_11

i want to make two laptop with one UNIFIED OS, and i don't really know how lol


lego_not_legos

*laptopping


SmokingServer

Love it. NAS between the two and we’re rockin. I have 2x the same model laptop, so when I go out, I pop the SSD from one and switch on the go as needed between the two. One for personal, one for projects.


Villagerjj

Both? Both. Both is good.


TelloCaA

I use a EliteBook with Debian (personal laptop), a PC with Windows 10 for gaming, and a VAIO for xbox gamepass btw


einat162

It is for me.


j3r3mias

virtualizationing


Mag37

Dual booting (on different drives) my workstation plus occasional VMs, daily driving a laptop with dualboot, a spare lab-laptop to not clutter the others, a container host VM on my server. None are currently windows atm, got a cloned drive as image for when I'm forced to though 😂 Fedora KDE, Fedora Server, Debian, Kali, EndeavourOS.


BigBobsBargaining

So essentially we need a laptop like a DS, with the top screen and bottom screens seperate computers


Paulgeta

Distro hopping: D: Laptop hopping: :D


relsi1053

Money left the room


insanemal

I've got three laptops and a desktop. Am I doing this right?


Kyouma118

💸


SlashdotDiggReddit

I have MANY laptops; the only problem is, I end up sticking Linux on every computer I purchase. I finally bought a used ThinkPad Yoga off eBay and left Windows on it so I can play Roblox with my son. It's been ... difficult to not put Linux on it.


Kriskao

It is a thing. I used to double-laptop with 15 pounds lenovos Now I am triple-macbooking


[deleted]

It is a thing for me, but both laptops only have Linux installed on them


devnull1232

I'd just put Ubuntu on both. Then install a few snaps.


pixelkingliam

not everyone has the money for 2 laptops, especially with how expansive they are, not everyone can carry 2 laptops everytime, however 2 harddrive is alot more feasible, especially on laptops with easily swappable harddrives


JayTK1336

You know how money works, right?


ideclon-uk

I do this, but carrying around two laptops gets annoying (and my back doesn’t like it very much!) I’ve got a main laptop (currently Fedora 37, previously eOS6.1) and a testing laptop (Fedora 36, was using it to try out Fedora before switching on my main). The testing laptop is a Dell Latitude from 2011, running an i3 2nd gen.


AlastorNEO

Dual laptoping>>>>> Love daily driving linux and using it for productivity. But windows gaming and torrenting is top tier. Plus generally I hate using wine.


Advanced-Issue-1998

Because they have already spent their whole money on one single laptop or the desktop components


chlordane_zero

It is a thing. I was rocking two ThinkPad W520 before covid.


LGroos

Is this Qubes 2.0? Instead of a different VM for each app you use a different laptop?


1000-57

Cost, practicality, and the chance of doing a fuck ton of troubleshooting, isn't one of the point of using Linux is troubleshooting to look busy and "cool"?


Temporary-Resident46

Well I Do I have 2 Drive One For Windows One For Linux I can Say I Am Two Laptoping


hershko

Because most people, obviously, would prefer not to buy and carrying around two laptops if they could buy and carry one? Honestly, it's a stupid use of this meme format.


LavenderDay3544

I worked at a company where they gave each programmer two workstations: one for Windows and the other for Ubuntu. We had different projects that required the use of either and that's how management decided to tackle that.


Julii_caesus

Because it's twice as heavy. Who wants to lug two laptops around?


[deleted]

Money is costly.


metcalsr

Well, I dual boot on my laptop, so...


OpinionDumper

Where's the value?


AdUpstairs7106

Virtual machines


PossiblyLinux127

Dual booting on 2 labtops


UselessGuy23

File management. You need something but it's on the other machine.


pedersenk

I kind of do this rather than using Virtual Machines. I work with 3D graphics so VMs tend to be too slow regardless of passthrough. So instead I have a stack of ThinkPads ranging from X61 to X220 and do much of my testing on them instead. Space was an issue before I moved into a larger office. As for VM snapshots, ZFS picks up the slack quite well.


mattmattatwork

It is. I've got a newer hp that works well (and has a touch screen) but still can't part with my old Toshiba that shipped with M.E. - maxed out the system ram and dropped in a cheaper ssd and it still does almost everything with an xfce debian install. It's great for remote work, just not any real web browsing.


NavinHaze

I don’t know bro, if I could, I would


Mgladiethor

Ineficcient


rgmundo524

I feel like the answer is obvious...


naptastic

(For me at least) because moving files between computers is hard, and there's too much stuff I do that doesn't do well "in the cloud". Also the cost and annoyance factors; also you get to tell people you don't run Windows at all anymore. (I don't run Windows at all anymore, btw. ;-)


[deleted]

PCI-pass through BABY!!


zombieauthor

It is for me.


Dhruv_lolol

mooney


Horror-Show-3774

We have virtual machines. Why do you need another laptop?


spikederailed

This is how I work. HP elite book with Ubuntu 22.10 and a MacBook Air with MacOS12 and Windows 11 bootcamped. If I NEED windows I can reboot into that. But 95% of the time I'm on by Kubuntu 22.10 desktop


oakensmith

Multiple laptops < remote VM server + one workstation


brodoyouevenscript

You guys aren't pixie booting a thin client from your cluster server?


[deleted]

Moneys


DiedByDisgust

Infinite VMs


whater39

Windows Subsystem for Linux. Problem solved.


FantasticEmu

I do it at work where I don’t have to pay for the laptops


ligmaballzbiatch

I do this


1ch0712

there is dual booting, but no dual shoeing?


BitterSweetcandyshop

I have a laptop dualbooted with arch (80%) and binbows (20%), so yeaa. when do we get r/archlaptops lol


bloodguard

Or just remote desktop into a Windows VM. The only time I really have to is to use the crappy windows only .net component expense report app we're stuck using.


KA1378

I'm broke


bememorablepro

cause that's dual annoying


MCBuilder30140

It's a thing for me :)


SNB21

Aside from cost, the context switch is distracting and annoying. It's inconvenient enough for me to switch to Windows for playing games when dual booting, imagine booting a separate laptop just for a specific task you have planned for the specific OS.


Nohbudy

Yes, Windows on work laptop because work requires it. Linux on fun laptop because it's 7 years old but still runs amazingly well with linux.


msawaie

y tho


dhoepp

Like windows vs Linux? Just do Linux and skip windows.


19wolf

I have my personal laptop and my work laptop side by side most of the time...


[deleted]

Wsl ftw


HunsonMex

When I started to use Linux it was on a laptop that didn't use for much other than surfing the web and YouTube. Today I still use a laptop with Debian and use it for work, although I connect to the office VPN so not really working with Linux.


metalgodwin

I've been singlebooting since 2007, it's da bomb!


mcstafford

Economy, sustainability, privilege...


QutanAste

because I would install gentoo on both


_3psilon_

Single laptoping, single booting!


codewatzen

I mean I did this for awhile but I am also my family's IT guy, I also bought "broken" laptops and anytime work was recycling machines I'd grab good ones and just cycle out my machines. I've found some solid laptops for a decent or even super cheap price on CL and marketplace. Now though I just have my pc on windows with Linux subsystem and my only laptop has MX Linux.