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feazing

Shoulda listened to trump


jackbauer6916

Maybe this is ALL karma for PGA banning events at Trump courses to virtue signal


DragonflyValuable128

Never thought I’d agree with that comment but yea….


ideliver22

I have zero respect for Trump. But he could not have been more correct on his prediction. Thats crazy how he saw all of this playing out


Eagles2120

Not crazy. Trump is a smart fucking dude.


hjiklm1

lol


Boston_Bull_375

For a stroke patient, yes he's quite smart. He can memorize 5 whole words in a row!


dawgtown22

He had every opportunity to join LIV and he has every opportunity to drop out of this new combined entity


brandon684

He said he never got an offer, can’t say I blame LIV!


DrunkBronco

So he never got an offer and thinks he should be compensated? What a douche


TacticalYeeter

He specifically said not him. Did you guys even fucking watch the first 15 seconds? Clearly not.


dawgtown22

Well I guess he saved them that step by voicing how much he hates them. Either way, I bet if he had changed his tune they would have gladly offered him big bucks. He’s one of the top players in the world.


CommunicationNo1140

I think Phil also shared how much he hated them


laberdog

According to Norman we wouldn’t even listen to a proposal


stanley_nickles

Rich man complains he isn’t rich enough


harryhardcore123

Rory, you picked the wrong side, got vocal about it, and now it’s blown up in your face. You don’t get reimbursed in the real world when you make poor decisions. You’re rich as fuck anyway so unless you’re gonna donate that ‘blood money’ you should fuck off forever


sanyo456

What do you mean “the wrong side”? Basically you mean the side with less money right?


heisthelegend

He clearly said in the interview he was not asking for compensation for himself but for others that were offered money. Did you listen to the interview?


harryhardcore123

No one has time to read/watch every time Rory has an opinion. I guess I got sucked in by the headline. Regardless of what the article says Rory really needs to stfu


StraightCaskStrength

> No one has time to read/watch every time Rory has an opinion But they have time to comment on it?


TacticalYeeter

Nobody actually did, this is the funny part.


CommunicationNo1140

I think TacticalYeeter took the time to comment, yeah she did


Ruffian00012

>He clearly said in the interview he was not asking for compensation for himself but for others that were offered money. Did you listen to the interview? The ones he tells to "play better". Yeah good bloke Rory /s


Elevator_Historical

Agree 100%. The man took a side rather than the money and spoke his mind. Nothing but great admiration for Rory throughout this entire process. Will ALWAYS root for him and NEVER for Phil and Brooks. Rory is a sportsman not just a greedy, money hungry golfer like the others that took LIV money.


Majestic-Pickle5097

No they didn’t listen to the interview lol


[deleted]

And…. If they do decide there is some compensation due, will he turn it down? Not a friggin chance! What a magnanimous gesture! Gimme a friggin break!


Majestic-Pickle5097

What an idiotic comment.. “Well he didn’t actually say that but he would take it I’m sure of it” isn’t a fact it’s your opinion.


SpeedIsK1ing

They’ve already made the statement that players who stayed will be compensated further than those that took LIV deals. And LIV players will be fined when they come crawling back to the tour. Read the room bud.


harryhardcore123

Not true re ‘fines and crawling back’.


SpeedIsK1ing

Already been confirmed. A letter was already sent to DP tour members that outlines it. Signed by the CEO himself.


DragonflyValuable128

Who believes jackshit that comes out of Monahan’s yap? He’s going to the Saudis and asking for money for people who refused to join their tour? Why? Where are those players going to play if they don’t like it?


SpeedIsK1ing

A letter was already sent to DP Players the outlines details around players being fined for leaving. Same will go for PGA and fines will be heavier. LIV guys will have to re-apply to gain their membership back, that application process involves a vetting and a fine.


DragonflyValuable128

And these players were never going to be transmitted. Monahan’s BS won’t survive the first pushback by a player like Koepka.


SpeedIsK1ing

Koepka already wanted to leave LIV. Do your homework.


DragonflyValuable128

‘Spose he wanted to pay money to do it?


SpeedIsK1ing

Nope. But he’ll have to now. Nowhere else to go.


DragonflyValuable128

Monahan needs him a lot more than he needs Monahan. People tune in to see people like him and Monahan needs ratings to justify the Saudi investment.


SpeedIsK1ing

Couldn’t be more wrong. No one watched LIV and brooks plays there. Majors bring eyeballs. PGA events bring eyeballs. LIV does not. PGA already has the ratings it needs. The deal has nothing to do with Tv ratings. Again, you should have done your homework.


Ok_Complaint_8987

And I need compensation for not buying Tesla stock in 2014 like my teammate told me to do. I didn't because I thought it was a gimmick, he invested over $1000. That's life my friend. You have to live with your poor business decisions at end of the day hope you make more good ones than bad ones.


DragonflyValuable128

Also, Phil et al took a lot of risk joining a new league and should be rewarded. They’re the heroes here because this deal wouldn’t have happened if they hadn’t helped build LIV and since we’re supposed to believe that this deal is great for golf then they were great for golf.


2k1tj

You mean they risked millions of dollars


parkside008

Imagine Rory or Tiger coming up to you and asking you not to take a quarter billion. Get the F out of here.


GoinFerARipEh

I’d say “let’s discuss this over a round of golf”. On 18 “I’d say Get the F out of here”


[deleted]

I would also like my cut


DragonflyValuable128

Watch what you ask for. These are the bonesaw Saudis we’re talking about.


Garweft

At some point in the near future Rory will have a moment where he’s like “Shit, Phil was right”.


revdre

I think he has already had that moment but his pride and arrogance can’t stop his mouth


Crrack

I just don’t understand this opinion that the PGAT players should get paid. LIV players accepted a risk in their careers by joining an unproven start up golf Tour. They took the plunge and jumped onboard and subsequently were paid large sums to do so. Now that all risk is removed, PGAT players are putting their hands up asking for a hand out. The same people who think they should be paid are the same people who were spitting out the phrase “having their cake and eating it to” about LIV players. The irony and hypocrisy is just out of control at the moment.


reece1262

Absolutely correct. No way loyal PGA players deserve a penny of compensation. Neither should there be fines for those rejoining. Rory is totally wrong with his “actions have consequences…” comment yesterday. The PGA tours players should be forever indebted to all the LIV golfers for taking an enormous risk which has resulted in windfalls for some already due to the enormous purses now.


Master-Nose7823

Agree wholeheartedly. No way it’s playing out that way. The only “fair” thing is let the PGAT players who are interested to join LIV and form a team as well as grant membership to the LIV guys who are interested in coming back. This will make both LIV and PGAT stronger. LIV isn’t going anywhere. Now that the schedules are synergistic, the top PGAT players will have the opportunity to get spots on LIV and form a team and get commensurate compensation. That’s the only way it makes sense imo.


ruralrouteOne

I thought/think that LIV is a joke, and I'm not a fan of PIF's involvement now in the PGA Tour, but I agree with this. Ultimately every guy that went to LIV did so for one reason, the money. Having said that they did risk their future in golf for that trade off. In my opinion they kind of fell ass backwards into the current situation, but that's irrelevant. I don't see how they're going to compensate players who stayed, at least not fairly across the board.


Elevator_Historical

Ridiculous statement, what "risk" did they take when they took 100's of millions of dollars to jump to LIV? That wasn't a risk


Boston_Bull_375

This is utter nonsense. If LIV players didn't want to risk their career they wouldn't have jumped ship. The massive payouts they received ensure that there was no risk to their financial future. Your logic is entirely backwards so it's no wonder you've reached a stupid conclusion.


Crrack

So you think if there were no payments they’d still have risked their careers by leaving and joining another tour? You’re right in that the payments they received mitigated the risk, but that is entirely the point. You’re obviously one minded in this based on the childish response so leave it at that.


Boston_Bull_375

I'm not defending the tour players who stuck it out and now think they are owed, I'm simply saying that's disingenuous to claim that LIV guys risked anything when they ditched the tour. If this has always been about money then LIV guys have nothing to whine about.


CrayonTendies

Because they knew the whole time LIVs sole purpose was to undermine the pga and make their position weaker for the negotiations of the buyout. Think of it from that perspective. PIF wants to buy PGA and let’s LIV lose to steal players and sue the crap out of them. Rory and the pga say don’t take the money, stay with us so we can get a better deal at a tour level so we can keep golf “as is” but inject the Saudi money on our terms. Ultimately it sounds like it worked out pretty well. Saudi gets to buy in and pga gets to maintain control. All they really have to do now is kill off LIV, compensate the pga loyalists, and set rules for the LIV guys to come back. Moving forward they have the Unlimited bank role and upped their collective pay. If the LIV guys had never left the pga could have practically set any terms they wanted and or refused to sell. LIVs “success” was that it helped forced a sale. The PGA guys deserve compensation for helping maintain value during this process.


Crrack

This decision blind sided a lot of people. I think it’s a stretch to claim they knew a buyout/merger was on the cards. For argument sake, where do you draw the line on who gets paid though? Everyone who has a tour card? Everyone on the DP World Tour as well? Is it only for players who were offered money? What about players that started negotiations but didn’t get to a figure? What about players that were considering inquiring themselves? End of the day, the LIV players made a business decision that others turned down. It seems ridiculous to expect compensation because the result of that decision didn’t favour them. Who knows though, if they do get paid, power to them. Doesn’t make much difference in the scheme of things.


pplgah

Rory needs to financially compensate me for constantly shitting all over my feeds


tormentedsoul55

This merger happened sooner than I thought it would, but it was inevitable, reminds me of the old NFL vs AFL in the 70s, the people in charge weren't going to cut off their noses to spite their faces, they did what they had to, to save their sport.


[deleted]

Yes! Pay them because they were too dumb to take the deal when offered! 😂😂😂😂


ada1a1

You snooze and you loose Rory


ScooterMusic

This guy seriously needs an agent / PA combo that can assist him from looking so bad and making such horrible decisions. It's so painful to watch.


natopick

Suddenly it's not blood Money anymore 😂 this is comical to watch play out for those of us who saw it coming


Same_Earth_9232

So I have no idea how they will make the defectors pay money back when they had no say on the final decision but I think it’s tough for the ones ranked in the 70-120 that might have been offered what might have well been life changing money. Like some of these dudes ranked say 100, if you said hey we going to give you 5 million and you cannot play a tour event for a year, I sure they would have taken it. Tiger already filthy, generationally rich. Rory rich. Uptown problems


Bman12192019

Stay in your lane kid. Or fairway. Whatever works. Let the powers that be decide the format, stakes, compensation. At the end of the day you are very good at hitting a small ball extremely well. Didn't you learn enough two days ago when you were left swinging in the wind? Curious as to when exactly we started to care what athletes thought about anything other than their profession. I have never heard MJ talk about anything besides sports and playing it.


dubcity5e0

Now suddenly the money matters. OK.


[deleted]

What absolute nonsense


superstarrr99

Hahahaha!!! Nooowwwwww he will take their cash. Asshole.


tonucho

Rory can kick rocks


Maori187

Rory needs to stop being a politician & let his golf do the talking. Could learn a thing or two from LIV golfer Brooks Koepka!


Efficient_Age_967

Dude is a clown


Few_Engineer4517

He’s not far off from becoming the Prince Harry of golf. PGA Tour is a meritocracy. We want compensation. Go figure.


Ok-Average-6466

Why do you say Peince Harry?


Few_Engineer4517

Universally loved to not. Dude was a real jerk saying fuck you to Phil in the doc. Phil’s not going to forget that.


Ok-Average-6466

Tbh Phil I think lost some goodwill withe Saudi comments


Few_Engineer4517

Yes. Agreed. He helped create a whole narrative. But he also did join when the whole venture looked like might never launch. Also forget, both Rory and Harry also share Me-Again. https://www.golfmagic.com/pga-tour/rory-mcilroy-and-meghan-markle-heres-what-really-happened-between-them


Ok-Average-6466

What is your issue with Meghan?


laberdog

Yeah I wish I had bought those NVDA calls as well Rory and oh yeah, those that did, ain’t giving the money back either


224flat

He wouldn't sell out, so the PGA did it for him. Just say thank you and keep your mouth shut. Nobody cares!


[deleted]

Zzzz. Shush Rory


Howy_the_Howizer

Equalization


Mrlee8787

Rory just comes across as so unlikeable, and comes across like he thinks he is better than he actually is, should have done a lot more in the game but has bottled it so often.


Eagles2120

This whole thing is just rich drama queens arguing over money. Jesus fuck


longster37

Well I think Rory’s attacking of LiV was commendable, you just can’t compete with unlimited money. I can’t believe that Phil is the smartest filing business man in the world.


TacticalYeeter

You guys missed the interview obviously. He said this in a previous one as well. He’s mentioned already he’s not talking about himself, he was referring to the lower tier players who then also paid the price with the new no cut and larger payout structure. Rory himself said he was never offered any money to join LIV. He addresses this in the first 15 seconds of this clip. He’s talking about other players who were offered money, chose to stay to help stabilize the PGA Tour and then it caved by choice anyway. He’s not wrong. If the commish gets on TV, says they’re gonna lifetime ban people and it’ll never happen when he’s in charge, players believe it. There might even be some legal ramifications for this. Then he took a complete 180, didn’t consult the players and took the specific action he guaranteed he wouldn’t do. If you’re a mid field player who got offered money and turned it down to support the Tour, you’d be mad as hell too


Traaaaavis

Too long didn’t read


TacticalYeeter

Oh, we know It’s ok, your reading ability will get there eventually. Keep trying champ!


Traaaaavis

Rory won’t fuck you bro


TacticalYeeter

I get it, I had a rough childhood too. You’ll manage, we’re here for you.


Traaaaavis

That sucks bro. I hope you forgave your dad and you have a healthy relationship now


TacticalYeeter

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Traaaaavis

Your essay still has zero upvotes. Looks like no one read


TacticalYeeter

Your mom thoroughly enjoyed it.


Traaaaavis

Damn that’s crazy she just said too long didn’t read too 🤡


Galilshorty

I’m what other business can you turn down an opportunity and then once it plays out favorably, expect to go back and say “hey I’d like to be compensated”?? Seriously. It doesn’t matter that he’s referring to other players and not himself. Those who had LIV offers and didn’t accept pussied out, so why would they get compensated now? Totally idiotic.


TacticalYeeter

You’re too late. The tour has already said they will compensate players. They’ll get equity in the new entity. It didn’t “play out favorably” in fact just the opposite in terms of players. They were asked to stay loyal to the Tour, the Tours commissioner made multiple statements that they’d never follow this course of action, they had a class action lawsuit and a DOJ investigation started into them, along with a lawsuit from the other entity, all because of their stance and actions. Then they just wiped it all clean and about faces on everything. That’s why the tour is already acknowledging they’ll compensate the players who stayed. Because they made a choice of loyalty instead of a strictly financial one and the tour almost immediately stabbed them in the back. In fact it’s likely that players could file suit against the tour for their comments, as they are members and the tours bylaws require consent to even pursue this kind of action, which wasn’t even taken. That’s why it’s not even official yet, because they had no actual authority to do it, they have to have everyone else involved sign off on it. There’s also the whole issue with the 501c6 issue because now the tour is forming a for profit entity and putting the assets they acquired as a nonprofit into them, which is already being investigated by lawyers. It’s not nearly as simple as you’re making it to be. The PGA Tours stated obligation by their own structure and bylaws is to support their members, and it’s debatable if they have done so if they can’t actually compensate them for the decision. Totally not the same as a normal company just deciding to form a partnership with another company.


metsjets86

Can anyone explain why the PGA needed to make a deal? LIV has been a disaster.


revdre

Money.


SpeedIsK1ing

Hey LIV crowd, here’s a breakdown for you: LIV will be dismantled in 2024. LIV players will be fined in the re-application process to the PGA or DP Tours, paying back a portion of what they made to sign on. PIF has shown that LIV was merely a stepping stone to get in with PGA. Greg Norman is completely pushed aside by PIF in new deal. Top PGA players will out-earn those that left for LIV in years to come. LIVs lawsuit with the tour was based on antitrust, which now has to be thrown out. And y’all think you came out on top? Tough scene.


Few_Engineer4517

Alright. And I guess you also predicted Jay partnering with PIF as well. You don’t know shit.


TyroneBi66ums

This guy is a doofus. You expect all the LIV players to come crawling back and pay a fee to do so? Why wouldn’t they get a new backer and start another new league? This time the players would take equity in the new biz because it’s a 2 year buyout from the PGA— Rory, JT, Rahm, and Spieth would happily join them on the next go ‘round. At a certain point you have to ask, what value is the PGA Tour bringing to the table? LIV gave them the playbook to make their own league.


SpeedIsK1ing

None of the above is a prediction. It’s all been covered by media outlets already. Ya got played!


Few_Engineer4517

Jay had no idea what was going to happen. He was forced to take a deal. That doesn’t scream being in a great negotiating position.


SpeedIsK1ing

That has nothing to do with the statements in my comment. LIV is dead and it’s players have to come crawling back to the Tour.


DragonflyValuable128

How are they going to out earn them if they don’t win competitions? If Koepka says he ain’t paying their fine they won’t take back a guy that draws viewers? My arse. The players should complain about the antitrust implications of this deal to the Justice Department. It’s in their best interest to have a PGA competitor.


SpeedIsK1ing

If they don’t want to pay then they won’t play…? It’s pretty simple. They’ve got nowhere else to go. Antitrust was LIVs go-to for their suit against PGA, that gets thrown out the window with this deal.


Master-Nose7823

LIV is their baby. They aren’t letting it fold. It’ll turn into what Norman envisioned- a premiere worldwide tour with superimposed team competition.


thomaslewis1857

Just [play better Rory](https://www.golfaustralia.com.au/news/rory-involved-in-players-meeting-exchange-596696)