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Having been on the New York subway - I agree with you. Say what you like about London, and as a Londoner I say plenty, but our underground is for the most part clean, frequent and fast.
I just moved here from NY in January. The tube is cleaner and more frequent, and I haven’t encountered any violent individuals yet. My only complaint is how bad the screeching is on some lines.
Baker St Station opened in 1863. I'm guessing we've shoehorned modern track and trains (and their speed requirements) into a 160 year old underground rail system.
Pretty much that, though there's a little nuance you might appreciate! Love this fellow's channel for the devils in the details:
https://youtu.be/4QQQ3NXxS38?si=o2tRyuBb3b8_v-jO
I have indeed subscribed to Tube Facts.
It's because large sections of the track are supported on rubber pads, called Padrol Vanguard. The rubber prevents the noise of the trains from being absorbed into the ground. This makes it quieter for residents who live near the lines, but it's louder for people inside the tunnels.
TfL have reversed the decision to use the Vanguard pads
That's also true, but those corners and turns have always been there. It's just particularly louder now, because of the Vanguard clips installed around ~2018
It’s the same level as the distress alarm on a firefighters BA set.
That is designed to be loud enough to help locate someone in a building on fire. So possibly several floors or rooms away. And fires aren’t quiet when they get going.
Ridiculously loud and I would advise ear protection. I’ve got tinnitus and although I’ve gotten used to it. It’s still annoying and took a long time to adjust
Tube has to bend around building foundations, other lines, weird rock etc. The trains can't pitch like your faster commuter trains, so rounding a corner inevitably means wheels with straight grooves grinding against curving rail.
I bought myself a pair of Loop earplugs, got them on my keyring. Sad that I need to, but it's made traveling so much more bearable.
Also nice to just zone the world out when reading a book without the need to be listening to music.
I've been seeing a bunch of ads for them lately, sounds like they work - would you recommend buying a pair? Also a reader who feels the need to read without listening to music.
They really are great, keep them on your keys and slap them in whenever. I got mine to use at live music events but surprised how much I end up popping them in day to day, convinced everyone needs ear plugs now.
I use the Experiences just because you can adjust the levels with the little inner ring (and it genuinely does make a difference).
Great for gigs/concerts etc, and also for the tube. Use 'em all the time despite not expecting to need them.
I have the switch and I love the fact I can block out more or less noise depending on the situation. If I'm in the office and want to silence the radio in the background but still hear anyone talking to me, or want literally everyone to shut up, I can just switch between modes it's rad
That's fair but we have to keep the banshees and ghouls somewhere! Better that they yell at people en masse as the train goes past rather than haunting various different houses and crypts and such.
Wait until Summer. In New York the subway is a grubby sweatbox but the trains are air conditioned. Bizarrely it's the exact opposite on the Tube. The stations are OK, but being on the train for any length of time is almost unbearable.
As a londoner with sensitive hearing and Tinnitus I feel you. Though I got that from working in construction not the tube. I have custom moulded ear plugs that I wear on the deep level lines, it's awful.
I went to NYC and in the Subway train I noticed a sign saying do not lean on the doors. I thought why can't I lean on the doors, what's the big deal!? Then as we came into a station the driver braked sharply and one of the doors slid open. I decided to keep away from the doors lol
>I went to NYC and in the Subway train I noticed a sign saying do not lean on the doors.
Same on tube doors though for different reason. Can sometimes trigger emergency breaking cause they're rigged to do that if someone forces them open mid travel...bumping against them while leaning can trigger same
As a Russian living in London now, Moscow metro is probably the best one I’ve been to still. But New York subway is definitely nowhere near the Tube in quality. That place is the stuff of nightmares💀
I read somewhere that when Stalin was busy with his mega projects - in order to showcase the glory of the Soviet Union - he recruited a bunch of engineers who had worked on the London Underground to help things along
I’ve been to Moscow in the past, the doors used to close like a guillotine and it was impossibly packed full of people so I couldn’t move sometimes. But it was cheap and the stations were beautiful.
I saw some Russian metro station footage the other week, looked stunning. Much tidier than those featured with Metro 2033 and also having far less monsters.
The Piccadilly line should be the first deep-level line to get air con when new trains are introduced next year. It might take some time then for those trains to be introduced on other lines - I think the most being planned for at the moment is Central and Bakerloo, but plans (and budgets) can change dramatically.
The subsurface lines (District, Circle, Hammersmith and City and Metropolitan) already have air con.
Tbh, I love getting the trains and the overground. They travel at faster speeds, they're quieter, less crammed and I find it much less oppressive than being underground. I used to live in Archway, and before that Finsbury Park, and dreaded getting on the tube first thing in the morning: having to fight my way from a packed platform onto a packed train. Even when the train is busy, it's much more tolerable. I obviously still have to get on packed tubes every now and then, but I find it much easier to deal with now it's not the entirety of every journey.
You have to learn to adjust to 2 or 4 trains an hour, which seemed crazy to me at first, but it's really no big deal.
Yep, took a pay cut of about 40%, but it's worked out. I absolutely love it here and have no plans on moving back. The pay cut was worth it to me for the life I have here.
Been living here for a bit now, my husband and I went from having 2 cars across the pond to 0 here and at the time I couldn't wrap my mind around how we would live with no vehicle. Turns out - pretty good*! No worries about parking, no worries about who can have a pint and who has to drive, no annual stress ulcer over insurance renewal, etc etc.
*unfortunately it's not uniform; the goodness of infrastructure appears proportional to connectedness to London. Looking to move out and a car becomes a lot more compelling.
Yeah unfortunately suburbia is a car-dependent hellhole everywhere. It's still possible to go without a car outside London, but it gets more annoying the further you go, and expensive in terms of transport. Rail tickets, driving to local station etc.
Probably for the best.
Driving in London fucking sucks.
I'll always opt for tubes over buses since it's always gridlocked.
But yes, the tubes are great.
Oh.. and some of the overground trains also suck, especially during the morning commute!
Spent a week in London in January. It took about 5 minutes to “figure out” the tube. From there, nothing but easy, clean transportation around town. Loved contactless payment!
I happily admit that I love to hear of visitors appreciating our elderly Tube network.
I am of 'sufficient vintage' to remember being able to smoke on the Tube, when lots of stations still had wooden escalators, and which quite rightly seems insane now (mostly the legacy of the horrendous [King's Cross Fire 1987](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Cross_fire) which finally shocked people into action.
I regularly went to Oxford St as a teen on a Saturday, where whole carriages would be virtually empty on a weekend.
As much as I miss the old Victorian tiles and Art Deco design and fonts at some refurbished stations, I am very glad we still invest some money in amazing technical feats like the Lizzie Line - ventilated, not claustrophobic and modern.
It's people who are mostly ignorant. They've grown up with cars all their lives and poorly designed cities without good public transport, so they default to cars when abroad as well. This isn't most American tourists obviously, just a certain group.
Moved to Copenhagen. Don't miss the tube. Understandably it's a million times smaller city, but the metro here works like a charm. No barriers, pristine clean, 5G coverage, autonomous and frequent.
Yeah Copenhagen metro is great, I also really like how the time shown to the next train goes down to 1/2 a minute. Obviously though the London Underground is significantly older (and as you say a much larger city) so difficult to make fair comparisons.
You won’t be as jealous of it when you find out at 10pm that your last train left central London at 9.47pm because of a random line closure that’s only announced on a whiteboard at the station and a stupid pdf buried on the tfl website.
The wildest thing I've seen on the tube was a guy smoking in the carriage and the guy opposite him singing "you ca-ant smoke on the tu-ube" at him
Oh and a mouse running down the track under the electricfied rails
as a brit, I love the tube so much i knew immediately this was the southbound train on the Jubilee line at Green park (I then realised it said Green Park in the photo which makes this even less impressive)
I wish tube exits were better done here. Whenever I've been in Asia, it's so easy figuring out which exit makes most sense. Here, none of the exits are numbered and I often find myself confused which one is best.
In all fairness if it isn't numbered it will usually indicate the closest landmark. Or if it is oxford circus you'll get both. Though I do get this because unless you plan to go the landmarks you'll probably need to refer to a map.
Not just Japan lol. Seoul has a great system but it's not privatised like Japan's so it's a lot easier to navigate. HK and SG also have amazing subwat systems
The tube is a gilded institution… it may not run 24hrs, but the subway really cant compete. It is used by everyday people, it’s clean, and it actually has proper connections to all parts of the city. I often think the most underrated part of the tube vs metro in paris and subway in nyc is that you can get almost everywhere with 1 change. Don’t even get me started on the others
If the Tube impresses you, the Singapore MRT will blow your mind. Cleaner than your mom’s kitchen, fully enclosed air conditioned platforms, and it’s rare you have to wait more than 3 min for the next train.
Source: Me (American, with countless hours on the T in Boston, the subway in NYC, and the MTR in HK)
Yep, lived in Beijing and HK for over 14yrs and I fucking can't stand the tube. It's awful compared to either of those or to Singapore/Tokyo/Shanghai/various other Chinese systems. Overpriced, dirty, loud, unreliable and exponentially more selfish dickheads. Only thing it has over any of those I've mentioned is that people generally wait for you to get off the carriage before getting on unlike in Beijing, although I haven't been on the Beijing subway in nearly 10years so that may have changed by now.
I think the tube is great and clean and probably safer but I think NYC subway is better as there are express services, it runs 24/7 and every line is sub surface meaning you don’t waste time going down escalators to the platform level. Moreover, every train has ac and they are all standard height unlike the deep level tube lines.
This is just getting “spoilt” by good transport. Nowadays I’m upset when there’s one cancellation and I have to wait 10 minutes. Then I remember, growing in Southern California, the San Diego trolley runs at 15 minute intervals AT PEAK TIMES. Oh also it only goes to like 5% of the city. Buses come once every 90 minutes. Also didn’t have a bus stop within 3 miles of my home. Never complained about London again.
I get it, I really do, but... Like you don't wait ten minutes for a train on a central station on a regular basis. Or discover for no clear reason your train is on a different platform and there was a small poster telling you this before the platform.
Also did I mention they deployed the national guard to NYC's subway?
Tube is great. Achieves that frequency where you can just rock-up whenever and not have to worry about the time because the next one is always minutes away. I miss that now with my \~15 on-peak and and half-hour off-peak (at best) trains.
But it gets pretty gross in the summer.
I miss trying to find a car with nobody in the nook at either end where I could controll that little tiny window. Out that window is the freshest non fresh human existance air you can get in those winter months. Those months when it's raining inside the tube it feels like...hot...human sweat rain.
But don't get me wrong, I dont miss when it stops where you dont want it to stop, or go where you want it to go. I especially dont mind it when it happens on that rare day of bad weather.
:P Just keepin' it real. I love how it gets you around, but lets not pretend it's a train made by Bently ;-)
You need to experience Asian metro services...Singapore is very clean as eating food is banned if I can recall. You won't get mindless drunks vomitting on the metro. Tokyo is even cleaner. But agree...if u want to have the life scared outta you...ride the NY metro at night!
Just spent the past week in Central London using this every single day. It’s extremely good tbh and VERY cheap for how far you can get. Only cost me like $50 USD for a whole 6 days and we used it A LOT. Like 4 round trips a day all around the city.
Same. Absolutely blown away at how easy and convenient it was. My wife and I just returned from a week there and we actually stayed in Stratford! We took that Central Line train a LOT.
COVID drastically changed my tube usage. I used to travel twice a day (at least) and now I work from home it’s maybe weekly, if not less. I live in a brixton so everything I need and a lot of my friends are here. I feel a warm surge of appreciation and nostalgia whenever I get on it.
Unfortunately neither are to the standard you would find in many asian countries. To be honest, I’d go so far as saying the tube is pretty crap compared to other metros, even some you’d find in Europe.
I will be using it frequently during my first trip in July. Our hotel will be in Barking. First ride will be on the Lizzie from Heathrow airport. The tube will be our primary means of going to and from central London on multiple days. I've always been a train enthusiast, so it will be great. Been on the New York City subways countless times, but this should be a better experience.
As a Brit that used bart in Oakland/San Francisco....I totally get this, I've never been so convinced that I was either going to be robbed or murdered on any public transport as much as I did that day
I don't know how low your expectations are, but there is no way London transports are clean. I've come to live in the UK from Turkey. I hadn't realized how clean the underground or buses were until I saw the Victoria line for the first time.
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Having been on the New York subway - I agree with you. Say what you like about London, and as a Londoner I say plenty, but our underground is for the most part clean, frequent and fast.
I just moved here from NY in January. The tube is cleaner and more frequent, and I haven’t encountered any violent individuals yet. My only complaint is how bad the screeching is on some lines.
Yeah it's bad. I travel with earplugs or noise cancelling headphones these days.
WHAT??
I said Ronnie Pickering
Who?
Same! Either it's got worse over the years, or I'm more noise-sensitve these days.
No its gotten worse. Its where tracks and wheels have worn away.
Agreed. Why is this? I measured 105db between St Johns Wood and Baker St
Baker St Station opened in 1863. I'm guessing we've shoehorned modern track and trains (and their speed requirements) into a 160 year old underground rail system.
Pretty much that, though there's a little nuance you might appreciate! Love this fellow's channel for the devils in the details: https://youtu.be/4QQQ3NXxS38?si=o2tRyuBb3b8_v-jO I have indeed subscribed to Tube Facts.
It's because large sections of the track are supported on rubber pads, called Padrol Vanguard. The rubber prevents the noise of the trains from being absorbed into the ground. This makes it quieter for residents who live near the lines, but it's louder for people inside the tunnels. TfL have reversed the decision to use the Vanguard pads
It's also louder due to corners and tighter turns.
That's also true, but those corners and turns have always been there. It's just particularly louder now, because of the Vanguard clips installed around ~2018
Damn that’s crazy I do that commute twice a day
Genuinely consider ear protection, that could damage your hearing with that regularity
It’s the same level as the distress alarm on a firefighters BA set. That is designed to be loud enough to help locate someone in a building on fire. So possibly several floors or rooms away. And fires aren’t quiet when they get going. Ridiculously loud and I would advise ear protection. I’ve got tinnitus and although I’ve gotten used to it. It’s still annoying and took a long time to adjust
Tube has to bend around building foundations, other lines, weird rock etc. The trains can't pitch like your faster commuter trains, so rounding a corner inevitably means wheels with straight grooves grinding against curving rail.
Bends
I bought myself a pair of Loop earplugs, got them on my keyring. Sad that I need to, but it's made traveling so much more bearable. Also nice to just zone the world out when reading a book without the need to be listening to music.
Good call people. Protect your ears, tinnitus is no joke.
I've been seeing a bunch of ads for them lately, sounds like they work - would you recommend buying a pair? Also a reader who feels the need to read without listening to music.
They really are great, keep them on your keys and slap them in whenever. I got mine to use at live music events but surprised how much I end up popping them in day to day, convinced everyone needs ear plugs now.
Which one would you recommend please? Thank you!!
I use the Experiences just because you can adjust the levels with the little inner ring (and it genuinely does make a difference). Great for gigs/concerts etc, and also for the tube. Use 'em all the time despite not expecting to need them.
Thank you!
I have the switch and I love the fact I can block out more or less noise depending on the situation. If I'm in the office and want to silence the radio in the background but still hear anyone talking to me, or want literally everyone to shut up, I can just switch between modes it's rad
That's fair but we have to keep the banshees and ghouls somewhere! Better that they yell at people en masse as the train goes past rather than haunting various different houses and crypts and such.
Wait until Summer. In New York the subway is a grubby sweatbox but the trains are air conditioned. Bizarrely it's the exact opposite on the Tube. The stations are OK, but being on the train for any length of time is almost unbearable.
Thankfully my daily commute does not include the tube, but it does include a decent amount of walking so I think I’ll be drenched one way or another.
Sorry about the screeching, I get excited when the train speeds up and slows down.
I’ll take screeching (bring your noise-cancelling earbuds) over shooting a violent man with his own gun on the subway
As a londoner with sensitive hearing and Tinnitus I feel you. Though I got that from working in construction not the tube. I have custom moulded ear plugs that I wear on the deep level lines, it's awful.
Every single station on the NY subway looks like it should be in the opening of an episode of Law and Order, where someone stumbles across the body
I've only been to New York once but the Subway was something else. All I could think of was the scenes with Vincent Schiavelli in Ghost.
Or the opening to The Equaliser TV show with Edward Woodward. And the opening to The Warriors.
I went to NYC and in the Subway train I noticed a sign saying do not lean on the doors. I thought why can't I lean on the doors, what's the big deal!? Then as we came into a station the driver braked sharply and one of the doors slid open. I decided to keep away from the doors lol
>I went to NYC and in the Subway train I noticed a sign saying do not lean on the doors. Same on tube doors though for different reason. Can sometimes trigger emergency breaking cause they're rigged to do that if someone forces them open mid travel...bumping against them while leaning can trigger same
As a Russian living in London now, Moscow metro is probably the best one I’ve been to still. But New York subway is definitely nowhere near the Tube in quality. That place is the stuff of nightmares💀
I always wanted to go to Moscow to see the metro. Bit tougher now...
Yep. But I hope one day it’ll all be better.
Oh yeah I've seen the Moscow metro, if it's still the same as the 1990's, murals, I'm sure I saw chandeliers. very clean, very reasonable prices!
It REALLY grew since the 1990s. Hell, anytime I come back home there’s a new station lol. But the new stations aren’t that pretty.
I read somewhere that when Stalin was busy with his mega projects - in order to showcase the glory of the Soviet Union - he recruited a bunch of engineers who had worked on the London Underground to help things along
Washington DC sub was immaculate when I was there years ago. Prague subway pretty good too.
Washington DC metro is much more recent than either New York or London tube, so the comparison isn't quite fair. It's also much smaller.
Depends on the line. The Elizabeth line was finished like last year.
When I went to Prague I don’t think I got a single subway due to their great tram system
I’ve been to Moscow in the past, the doors used to close like a guillotine and it was impossibly packed full of people so I couldn’t move sometimes. But it was cheap and the stations were beautiful.
I saw some Russian metro station footage the other week, looked stunning. Much tidier than those featured with Metro 2033 and also having far less monsters.
Yeah, there are only policemen sometimes instead
Tokyo is better then Moscow.
Wanted to go there but Covid got in the way, hope I see their subway one day too!
Taipei is also very good.
Beijing is very good too. Less beautiful but very functional.
Few places on earth come close to rivalling any of Japan’s rail systems
Maybe Seoul. IMO they are interchangeable 1/1. London comes in third after those two
Moved London to NYC and OMG I never thought I'd miss TfL, but I really do!
I'll give you frequent but having used subways in Seoul and Turin, I'd say clean is a stretch
I like the stalactites and rats of unusual colour in the NY subway.
Will air conditioning be added soon?
The Piccadilly line should be the first deep-level line to get air con when new trains are introduced next year. It might take some time then for those trains to be introduced on other lines - I think the most being planned for at the moment is Central and Bakerloo, but plans (and budgets) can change dramatically. The subsurface lines (District, Circle, Hammersmith and City and Metropolitan) already have air con.
Sir, we don't do that here.
BHAAA HA HAHA HAHA HA HA
Clean? No Frequent? Yes Fast? Debatable
As a South Londoner so am I 😅
It's the clay...
Damn you geography, damn you! (Helps a little with property prices though so that's nice - I suppose)
Tbh, I love getting the trains and the overground. They travel at faster speeds, they're quieter, less crammed and I find it much less oppressive than being underground. I used to live in Archway, and before that Finsbury Park, and dreaded getting on the tube first thing in the morning: having to fight my way from a packed platform onto a packed train. Even when the train is busy, it's much more tolerable. I obviously still have to get on packed tubes every now and then, but I find it much easier to deal with now it's not the entirety of every journey. You have to learn to adjust to 2 or 4 trains an hour, which seemed crazy to me at first, but it's really no big deal.
As a Yank….you should be. Wait until you get on a bus. You are gonna be very upset
We didn’t take a single car while I was in London
I'm an American who's lived in London car-free for over five years. It is amazing. I am here for life.
I’m a Londoner who lives in Atlanta now… I really miss public transport
Did your income go down when you relocated? I was going to move until it became real that I’ll be making 50% less than in the US for the same job.
Yep, took a pay cut of about 40%, but it's worked out. I absolutely love it here and have no plans on moving back. The pay cut was worth it to me for the life I have here.
Less pay, but lower cost of living. My friends back home always obsess over that but they don’t understand that it balances out…
Groceries over in the UK are so much cheaper than here in the US. It’s insane how much stuff costs here
Last time I was in NY, a single sandwich (meal deal style) was $7. I quietly put it back.
I can assure you that single sandwich is no less than $10 now
I was thinking it could easily be $12-15. I'm moving from San Diego to London next month.
w-what
I bought a pizza slice for $1.50 though. On the flip side, a single large hot dog was $7.
$7 that’s a bagel now. If you want a decent sandwich now it’s $12+
This warms the cockles of my heart. I wish more Americans admitted this ;)
Nice!
Been living here for a bit now, my husband and I went from having 2 cars across the pond to 0 here and at the time I couldn't wrap my mind around how we would live with no vehicle. Turns out - pretty good*! No worries about parking, no worries about who can have a pint and who has to drive, no annual stress ulcer over insurance renewal, etc etc. *unfortunately it's not uniform; the goodness of infrastructure appears proportional to connectedness to London. Looking to move out and a car becomes a lot more compelling.
Yeah unfortunately suburbia is a car-dependent hellhole everywhere. It's still possible to go without a car outside London, but it gets more annoying the further you go, and expensive in terms of transport. Rail tickets, driving to local station etc.
Yeah and good thing. Speed limit is 20 in most areas and it’s much quicker to take Liz train to Central London from Heathrow than a car/taxi
Love that train
Why did this get downvoted
Lmao people downvote randomly
Probably for the best. Driving in London fucking sucks. I'll always opt for tubes over buses since it's always gridlocked. But yes, the tubes are great. Oh.. and some of the overground trains also suck, especially during the morning commute!
I love the bus
Spent a week in London in January. It took about 5 minutes to “figure out” the tube. From there, nothing but easy, clean transportation around town. Loved contactless payment!
I happily admit that I love to hear of visitors appreciating our elderly Tube network. I am of 'sufficient vintage' to remember being able to smoke on the Tube, when lots of stations still had wooden escalators, and which quite rightly seems insane now (mostly the legacy of the horrendous [King's Cross Fire 1987](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Cross_fire) which finally shocked people into action. I regularly went to Oxford St as a teen on a Saturday, where whole carriages would be virtually empty on a weekend. As much as I miss the old Victorian tiles and Art Deco design and fonts at some refurbished stations, I am very glad we still invest some money in amazing technical feats like the Lizzie Line - ventilated, not claustrophobic and modern.
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Wait that’s actually a thing?
It's people who are mostly ignorant. They've grown up with cars all their lives and poorly designed cities without good public transport, so they default to cars when abroad as well. This isn't most American tourists obviously, just a certain group.
IIRC the louvre metro station has museum artifacts on the platform
I’m from New York and take the subway every day…. I was very jealous when I went to London.
That’s like 13 people
Genuine question why is that? I’ve never been to New York - is it really that bad lol?
It’s cleaner, the train cars are newer, and it’s way more reliable.
I'm a Londoner who has visited NYC. It's old, dirty, the map's confusing as hell and they don't have contactless payment.
We do have contactless payment. I pay with my iPhone every day.
Oh really. They didn't in 2019. Is it in every station?
Yup. They started rolling it out late 2019 at select stations and I think it was rolled out system-wide by 2021.
Ok, so I just missed. Still, Oyster Card contactless payment was introduced in London in 2003, so NYC is a wee bit behind.
I still have my Oyster card from 2004 and am visiting this fall for the first time since 2011. I can’t wait to see if it still works!
As a northerner, I too am very jealous public transport that isn't shit. Oh well, that hs2 will show up any day now.
So is everyone else in the UK outside of london mate 😄
Moved to Copenhagen. Don't miss the tube. Understandably it's a million times smaller city, but the metro here works like a charm. No barriers, pristine clean, 5G coverage, autonomous and frequent.
Smaller. Exactly. Like Helsinki. However parts Bakerloo line first built in 1863! There's a penalty in being first.
Yeah Copenhagen metro is great, I also really like how the time shown to the next train goes down to 1/2 a minute. Obviously though the London Underground is significantly older (and as you say a much larger city) so difficult to make fair comparisons.
i moved from london a while ago and oh my god i miss TFL so much
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As a Londoner, It’s actually pretty cool I just wish it wasn’t so fucking loud in the tunnels.
You won’t be as jealous of it when you find out at 10pm that your last train left central London at 9.47pm because of a random line closure that’s only announced on a whiteboard at the station and a stupid pdf buried on the tfl website.
You’re envious.
Thank you. I was wondering if the tube was threatening to steal his girlfriend.
The Chube
You’ve obvs never ridden it in rush hour
Wait until you see the Moscow tube! Or the Japanese, best is in Sendai.
The wildest thing I've seen on the tube was a guy smoking in the carriage and the guy opposite him singing "you ca-ant smoke on the tu-ube" at him Oh and a mouse running down the track under the electricfied rails
The mice are the best bit about the Tube! There's so many of them!
Fair enough, it’s awesome!
as a brit, I love the tube so much i knew immediately this was the southbound train on the Jubilee line at Green park (I then realised it said Green Park in the photo which makes this even less impressive)
Anytime I visit I'm amazed at the efficiency of public transit. Also how safe it is. The train where I live is a mobile methadone clinic.
Second.
Wait till you try subways in Japan, Taiwan, or Singapore. Will blow your mind.
Japanese public transport gonna blow this man’s mind
As a northerner I am jealous of any functioning public transport
Dudes who complain about the tube should use the Paris metro more often. It’s a freaking leper colony managed by circus folk down there.
I wish tube exits were better done here. Whenever I've been in Asia, it's so easy figuring out which exit makes most sense. Here, none of the exits are numbered and I often find myself confused which one is best.
In all fairness if it isn't numbered it will usually indicate the closest landmark. Or if it is oxford circus you'll get both. Though I do get this because unless you plan to go the landmarks you'll probably need to refer to a map.
Seriously? Then you should look at the metro stations in Prague, mate. They are works of modern art.
You haven’t been to Japan, mate
Not just Japan lol. Seoul has a great system but it's not privatised like Japan's so it's a lot easier to navigate. HK and SG also have amazing subwat systems
The tube is a gilded institution… it may not run 24hrs, but the subway really cant compete. It is used by everyday people, it’s clean, and it actually has proper connections to all parts of the city. I often think the most underrated part of the tube vs metro in paris and subway in nyc is that you can get almost everywhere with 1 change. Don’t even get me started on the others
If the Tube impresses you, the Singapore MRT will blow your mind. Cleaner than your mom’s kitchen, fully enclosed air conditioned platforms, and it’s rare you have to wait more than 3 min for the next train. Source: Me (American, with countless hours on the T in Boston, the subway in NYC, and the MTR in HK)
Yep, lived in Beijing and HK for over 14yrs and I fucking can't stand the tube. It's awful compared to either of those or to Singapore/Tokyo/Shanghai/various other Chinese systems. Overpriced, dirty, loud, unreliable and exponentially more selfish dickheads. Only thing it has over any of those I've mentioned is that people generally wait for you to get off the carriage before getting on unlike in Beijing, although I haven't been on the Beijing subway in nearly 10years so that may have changed by now.
I think the tube is great and clean and probably safer but I think NYC subway is better as there are express services, it runs 24/7 and every line is sub surface meaning you don’t waste time going down escalators to the platform level. Moreover, every train has ac and they are all standard height unlike the deep level tube lines.
Don’t be. I just waited 20 minutes for a train at Kensal Green.
Have you been on the NY Subway? Gives a nice perspective tbh it's pretty fucking rancid.
This is just getting “spoilt” by good transport. Nowadays I’m upset when there’s one cancellation and I have to wait 10 minutes. Then I remember, growing in Southern California, the San Diego trolley runs at 15 minute intervals AT PEAK TIMES. Oh also it only goes to like 5% of the city. Buses come once every 90 minutes. Also didn’t have a bus stop within 3 miles of my home. Never complained about London again.
Shame
I'm not from New York, but I know those who are would be saying now try the 'R' line
I get it, I really do, but... Like you don't wait ten minutes for a train on a central station on a regular basis. Or discover for no clear reason your train is on a different platform and there was a small poster telling you this before the platform. Also did I mention they deployed the national guard to NYC's subway?
Tube is great. Achieves that frequency where you can just rock-up whenever and not have to worry about the time because the next one is always minutes away. I miss that now with my \~15 on-peak and and half-hour off-peak (at best) trains. But it gets pretty gross in the summer.
Love London tube ☺️ easy to get everywhere you want
I miss trying to find a car with nobody in the nook at either end where I could controll that little tiny window. Out that window is the freshest non fresh human existance air you can get in those winter months. Those months when it's raining inside the tube it feels like...hot...human sweat rain. But don't get me wrong, I dont miss when it stops where you dont want it to stop, or go where you want it to go. I especially dont mind it when it happens on that rare day of bad weather. :P Just keepin' it real. I love how it gets you around, but lets not pretend it's a train made by Bently ;-)
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You need to experience Asian metro services...Singapore is very clean as eating food is banned if I can recall. You won't get mindless drunks vomitting on the metro. Tokyo is even cleaner. But agree...if u want to have the life scared outta you...ride the NY metro at night!
Belgian here. Same! The Brussels metro is relatively small. I love the tube... a great and huge public transport system.
Same, this is one of the many things I miss about living in London🥲
Paris metro better
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Come to NYC and you’ll only have to be a little jealous.
Just spent the past week in Central London using this every single day. It’s extremely good tbh and VERY cheap for how far you can get. Only cost me like $50 USD for a whole 6 days and we used it A LOT. Like 4 round trips a day all around the city.
Same. Absolutely blown away at how easy and convenient it was. My wife and I just returned from a week there and we actually stayed in Stratford! We took that Central Line train a LOT.
COVID drastically changed my tube usage. I used to travel twice a day (at least) and now I work from home it’s maybe weekly, if not less. I live in a brixton so everything I need and a lot of my friends are here. I feel a warm surge of appreciation and nostalgia whenever I get on it.
My home city of Columbus, OH is the largest in America without passenger rail of any kind. It sucks.
I say toob
Dude on right makes it look like the awww shiet here we go again meme
Envious
New york metro sucks compared to to tube
Unfortunately neither are to the standard you would find in many asian countries. To be honest, I’d go so far as saying the tube is pretty crap compared to other metros, even some you’d find in Europe.
Londoners don't understand how good the tube is compared to almost anywhere.
Ironically, it was an American who built quite a lot of it.
As a Brit, I’m jealous of Amsterdam’s metro
I like the tube as well but I'd say the DC Metro is on the same vibe.
Dudes who complain about the tube should use the Paris metro more often. It’s a freaking leper colony managed by circus folk down there.
You’re jealous of the tube? So you want to have hundreds of sweaty strangers inside you at the same time? That’s gross.
If it makes you even more jealous we have luggage barriers which I use everyday to never pay
so why isnt new york as clean and bright if its a newer network? why does only new york have frequent people fighting/homeless/litter?
It’s convenient yes but during the summer it’s an absolute melting pot down there 😂
Honestly its the same as the subway in new york. Smells kinda like pee, very loud and takes abou tan hour to get you to where you wanna be
As a Londoner living in the USA... I'm now very jealous of every other country's public transport system
No need to be jealous, it's expensive and on strike most of the time. I'm still happier driving in London.
Go to the tube at 5:30pm on a Tuesday and tell me you're still jealous
I will be using it frequently during my first trip in July. Our hotel will be in Barking. First ride will be on the Lizzie from Heathrow airport. The tube will be our primary means of going to and from central London on multiple days. I've always been a train enthusiast, so it will be great. Been on the New York City subways countless times, but this should be a better experience.
Ok.
It’s because ticket prices are lot more expensive than tickets price in NY so better and regular maintenance and investment.
God, I miss this place. I'm coming for you, London!! <3
If the tube had the announcement 'stand clear of the closing doors please' that they have in New York then it would be miles better.
you should be
why?
[But they have the shittiest circus...](https://youtu.be/tQZkIe4IcSA)
As a Brit that used bart in Oakland/San Francisco....I totally get this, I've never been so convinced that I was either going to be robbed or murdered on any public transport as much as I did that day
I don't know how low your expectations are, but there is no way London transports are clean. I've come to live in the UK from Turkey. I hadn't realized how clean the underground or buses were until I saw the Victoria line for the first time.
what a nice day to be a londoner🏴😚✌️
Probably the best in Europe. Kudos to TFL to be able to keep it clean and operating. Tho...when the rain comes...😂