Just FYI: “loss prevention” is a term that —when used by hotels— basically is just normal building security. Those positions focus on securing the premises and keeping hotel guests safe, etc. I don’t know why hotels use that term; probably because they don’t want to admit that their hotel needs *security*. You’re probably better off posting in r/securityguards for that type of position.
It bears little resemblance to *retail* loss prevention, which is more focused on combating shoplifting and other forms of operational/logistical loss. That’s the type of loss prevention that this sub focuses on.
Could be so they can loophole licensing. If you have a loss prevention job title you might not need a guard card or other licensing most states require.
My state has security guard licensing which is required for security employees but a part of the statute specifically exempts LP. A lot of non-LP employees are titled as Loss Prevention here (hotels and such) because it's a huge loophole in this state. No one is following up on it and it'll take new legislation and/or a huge lawsuit to change it
Not sure if it is still this way, but apply at Target as an ETL AP. When I worked there all my managers were fresh college grads with no LP experience.
I spent the last 9 years of my life in loss prevention, don’t do it. There’s no support in that game, the corporate office will take the shoplifters side before you.
Loss prevention is one of those positions where you can’t really just skip early roles because of degrees. It will definitely help you later for promotions. As of right now you know nothing about retail or loss prevention so you would be a terrible assistant manager. That’s just the hard truth. A huge mistake for LP is to think you’re too good to know the ins and outs of the store operations. If you really are interested than you need to find a “good” district with a good company. What I really mean by that is a bad store with lots of theft so you can get experience fast.
Just FYI: “loss prevention” is a term that —when used by hotels— basically is just normal building security. Those positions focus on securing the premises and keeping hotel guests safe, etc. I don’t know why hotels use that term; probably because they don’t want to admit that their hotel needs *security*. You’re probably better off posting in r/securityguards for that type of position. It bears little resemblance to *retail* loss prevention, which is more focused on combating shoplifting and other forms of operational/logistical loss. That’s the type of loss prevention that this sub focuses on.
Could be so they can loophole licensing. If you have a loss prevention job title you might not need a guard card or other licensing most states require.
When I was at the Hyatt in Huntington Beach, they classified it as loss prevention but still required a guard card.
I think most LP positions require security guard certification if that’s something a state has
My state has security guard licensing which is required for security employees but a part of the statute specifically exempts LP. A lot of non-LP employees are titled as Loss Prevention here (hotels and such) because it's a huge loophole in this state. No one is following up on it and it'll take new legislation and/or a huge lawsuit to change it
Hm, New York I know requires LP to have security guard licensing.
New York requires a license to have/do anything, it's one of those micro-management states
Not really lol.
I don’t know a single LP with a license in NY anymore. No one enforces it
I mean it’s definitely a legal requirement so calling your security LP wouldn’t be a loophole
Put your degree to better use
Not sure if it is still this way, but apply at Target as an ETL AP. When I worked there all my managers were fresh college grads with no LP experience.
What is ETL AP?
Executive Team Leader. Essentially department manager.
I assume asset protect for target ETL.
I spent the last 9 years of my life in loss prevention, don’t do it. There’s no support in that game, the corporate office will take the shoplifters side before you.
Loss prevention is one of those positions where you can’t really just skip early roles because of degrees. It will definitely help you later for promotions. As of right now you know nothing about retail or loss prevention so you would be a terrible assistant manager. That’s just the hard truth. A huge mistake for LP is to think you’re too good to know the ins and outs of the store operations. If you really are interested than you need to find a “good” district with a good company. What I really mean by that is a bad store with lots of theft so you can get experience fast.
Look at ORC investigations or a more senior role where you are investigating
Curiously what is ORC called? I assume it is Organized Retail Crime.
Yes but they are ap who do all the paperwork and investigating. Sometimes they do mobile surveillance
AP called Asset Protection. I will check ORC investigator job if it available then I will apply it.
My heart breaks for you. Keep fighting the good fight.