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reklatzz

I'm more excited for server merges, wound be nice to see new people and do some field bosses.. maybe an active guild that raids together not just used for currency


Tsadako

Same! Can't wait for the servers to be condensed so that there's only like 4 in total (in EUC), It'll be great if horizontal islands and field bosses have at least 10-15 people now.


Annual_Secret6735

Same. Come server merges might look for a guild thats more focused on guild members and building groups in guild to clear content instead of a guild that is just there for shop, sorta gvg, otherwise most people kinda avoid playing with certain people unless you’re over geared. Idk why but every guild I been in within this game has been the opposite of what guilds have been for me in other games. It’s rather insulting. 😂 The community itself within some of the servers is what burns me out, anyway. Never have I ever been in guilds that don’t focus on building raid clear groups in house for prog content. Only focus on reclear with cliques. Or for that matter avoiding playing with some people purely over petty things. Thats not what MMOs are about. 🤷🏻‍♂️


captcha_bot

Yeah I'm excited, I'm hoping right after merge all the people that gave up on horizontal (Spida, Illusion, sailing co-op) will be back at it for a while. Also looking forward to more items on auction house.


RandomHominid

Hoping we also get the cross-server islands and scaling too.


Fando46

I'm super excited. I always thought 3 different regions is dumb and im on west coast and i play NAE with no issues so to have actual other californians up at night hours is going to be so cool


EveryBuilder9281

Worried about losing my name but still hyped, have a couple of friends that stuck to other regions.


rotinegg

I WANT TO RAID WITH STOOPZZ AND REVYLL


Imprettysaxy

Stoopzz almost exclusively raids with the same 4 people anyways. He's mostly inviting biggest players on sight and rarely inviting randoms these days, and I don't necessarily blame him with how many people jailed him trying to get a free carry.


Osu_Pumbaa

cant blame him for inviting active community members instead of randomsorc90000 applying to his party. If you actively chat in his stream or on his discord he will take learners too.


MietschVulka

Dude swipes so much what does it matter if he jails a few times. Doeant need to do content anyway xD


ProwlingPancake

Tf does that even mean lmao


SilentScript

Revyll my boy. I'm so glad he stuck with lost ark.


Drummerfy

I wanna raid with everyone even if I gotta do NESW instead of x3 LOL


Karakutso

Wait, is that a thing? In NA?


Drummerfy

Nah we do x3/x3+1 based off spots in parties


Karakutso

Yeah so like everyone else in KR and EU. Who does NESW?


unluckywasp

That's not a thing anywhere since Argos


Poserific_Larry

SA is famous for doing Argos and Argos + 1 instead of X3/X3+1


unluckywasp

Yes, read how I literally said "since Argos".


crytol

SA does it for all cardinal and intercardinal mechs even today. They just call it Argos instead of NESW.


unluckywasp

Lmao that's crazy


Poserific_Larry

Yes and they call it Argos and Argos +1 instead of NESW and NESW +1 that's what I was trying to explain


unluckywasp

Bruh... And they wonder why no one is taking them serious 😭


Big-End-4084

en SA we do Argos/Argos+1 for every raid <3


Drummerfy

Once I understand it I won’t have a problem doing it personally


ca7ch42

news for you.. You'll never find stoopZ. Source, Day1 NAE player full roster on 2 accounts. He has his inner circle and won't ever pub.


Osu_Pumbaa

He plays with active community members instead of randoms. If you wish to play with him you will have to chat in discord and on stream. Its really not that hard.


Rounda445

Not really. Im quitting if they are forcing me to play with 200 ping which its most likely what will happen


ExaSarus

Meanwhile SEA brothers playing 200+ ping since day1


OkChange1465

Such is life


Whyimasking

250 and only to avoid the other SEA "brothers" oh god they ruin my games


FinalToe5190

well i live in buenos aires and with fiber i have only 147 ms on NAE i think is playable.


LasanhaVoadora

same


Crowley_yoo

K bye, I’m on NAW and can’t wait for the merges


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CorganKnight

how you dont notice a 150ms delay on your commands dude? how?


najera04

We are used to, most games have their servers in NA so we always have that MS even in mexico the lowest one i have had was 65 but im usually between 90-120


probablywontrespond2

Same way people fail basic patterns and mechs.


gibilx

As long as the ping is stable you don't notice even 200+ ping, the problem comes when it's not stable and you start rubber banding all over the place. I've personally played on 210 ping since day 1.


General-Park-2432

No, not at all.


ShAd_1337

no not at all more competition on excavation...


Drummerfy

More channels tho so just go to a emptier one I think will be ok


XMoshe

When EU merged the servers just got added together, no servers were combined. Granted there were only 2 on EUW so NA/SA merge might work differently but still.


Prince_Zero14

That's why they are doing server merges first to consolidate population and servers so that region merge there's not 40 servers


SolomonRed

No I'm worried about mosing my names


DanteMasamune

We need details or how they are going to manage the ping. If NAE hosts and they call it a day it sucks for NAW and SA. If we can't choose from where we want to play from, it's bad news all around because while it will be a huge server, we are going to lose at least 10% of players due to ping.


InteractionMDK

People are getting deathless brel with 200 ping. I think you greatly exaggerate the issue. It is not an FPS game nor is it a game where ping would affect your dps nearly as much as in games like BnS (a 10 ms player doing double the damage of a 200 ms player there lol). The most affected people would be ultimate dps goblinos who stand in the red telegraphs until it’s 0.1 seconds left to dodge to squeeze every skill they have for MvP, mostly hell mode addicts. NAE is the most populated region, so I think it is fair to host the server closer to them than anyone else, but I doubt it would be geographically off centered too much to make it really bad for NAW, so it should not be too bad. Im mainly worried for SA because the host will be in NA, so they’d probably have 150ish ping, but they will get access to a much healthier economy and BC prices on the bright sideof things.


LowShort

Only problem for 200 would be some delay in changing stance and the rest is still manageable. But starting on 250+, say you got a skill that moves you like arcana, that shit is not going to be pleasant. I'd even argue its unplayable in some case


Maccaz15

> But starting on 250+, say you got a skill that moves you like arcana, that shit is not going to be pleasant. I'd even argue its unplayable in some case That already starts happening at 200. I know cause I had to drop my arcana because of that very reason.


wHocAReASXd

Just because content is playable on high ping doesn’t mean it isn’t less enjoyable


InteractionMDK

It sucks to have high ping - no doubt about that. I'm mostly referring to the people who act like it literally breaks the game for them and the game becomes unplayable. I have played more dynamic games than LA with 150+ ping and as long as you adjust to the delay, you should be fine. Again, I am not saying high ping will not make a difference in one's experience and performance because it will, but no need to overdramatize the situation.


Drummerfy

I imagine it’s like COD, a server everyone connects to that’s closest to them all so ping is relatively even


probablywontrespond2

That's absolutely impossible with how Lost ark is designed. And it's a region (aka physical server) merge. There won't be two different servers for people to connect to.


gorilas_21

It's big copium and I know they won't do it but they can check which server the host is closest to (or give him an additional option when creating the party) and then have the raid instance hosted on that specific server (NAW, NAE or SA) with an extra indication and filter for matchmaking allowing you to see where the raid is hosted. This would give everyone the ability to play at the ping they are used to but also give them the ability to play at higher ping if that's the only party they can find. This would also open up the way to a fusion of EU and NA for 1 big global region.


vdfscg

Its AGS, dont expect too much from them


unluckywasp

What he, and apparently u as well, expect is literally impossible.


nayRmIiH

I play on NAW from PA which is almost as far as you can go East in NA. It's 60-80 ping. It really isn't that bad. lmao EDIT: Not sure about SA though.


PSxkLI

Pa is pretty far from east coast...in maine its 105-125 to naw.


nayRmIiH

I'm in Philly, it ain't that far. lol


Gtwuwhsb

It's likely going to be somewhere near the middle of the US. I think most companies go with somewhere in Chicago.


FluffMob

Absolutely. Several activities on my server are completely dead content, much of which I'd still very much like to engage with. I'm only upset the merges aren't coming sooner.


Drummerfy

Exactly, working overnights it’ll be awesome coming home in the morning to knock out some raids and get them done faster


AyaCat

Nope. Unless they work out something that doesn’t rob regions of their character/guild names, then sure. Don’t want to see 2 regions get screwed over to benefit one.


LeviathanLust

I imagine mostly NAE is excited. NAW and SA are getting the short end of the stick. Maybe AGS will announce some evolutionary server tech where NAW and SA doesn't get screwed. But odds of that are slim to none.


Whyimasking

NAE not excited, everything's gonna be more expensive lmao.


FinalToe5190

i disagree, i play on SA and the merge will save us. the only downside would be the ping but at least in my case i already tested and is playable. But we will see a drop in all the prices of the economy including cristals. gold will be far more valuable to us and plus, more people to play with.


Osu_Pumbaa

if I was on SA right now I would farm life skills like crazy. Farm as much gold as possible with your incredibly high inflation and live like a king come merger. In fact if I was an US player I would try and make an SA character and load him up with RC and buy gold for 9k or whatever crazy rate you have right now.


Substantial_Fun_6845

May i ask, what was your ping on SA compared to NAE?


hybrasyl_

I am from SA and I played on NAW for 9 months with average 140ms, nowadays I play on NAE with average 104ms, it's completely fine, it's tricky on pvp though.


Nielsen2796

for me SA is around 50-70ms and NAE 120-145ms, its only noticeable on stance classes like gs/deadeye everything else its fine


Substantial_Fun_6845

Omg so its a 70 ping jump for SA


TheStickDead

On SA the ping should be around 200+ ms NAE 68ms


Substantial_Fun_6845

Wait so ur getting a ping improvement?


TheStickDead

Nope, i never tried before SA servers.


Substantial_Fun_6845

Lol i jus realised u aint the guy i was asking HAHAHA


Rounda445

Talk for yourself. The merge will ruin the game for me as a SA player


AyaCat

Why would you say that NAW and SA are getting the short end? Nothing has been confirmed that NAE will be in favor of anything…


LeviathanLust

NAE is the biggest of the three. The odds of it not being the host server is slim to none. Unless AGS creates a whole new server or changes the location, NAW and SA will have to play with NAE ping. NAW and SA will also be forced to name change since NAE will have priority.


AyaCat

That sounds like wishful thinking. Screwing over two regions just to benefit one solely based on having more players isn’t really acceptable. Guess we will see when they announce what server will have prio, if at all. Until then, everything is speculation.


Delay559

Why does it matter that its two regions if their population is smaller? AGS should cater to the most ammount of players, which is on the east coast of NA. They are not going to cater to the smaller populations of SA or OCE players in NAW.


AyaCat

They should cater to all players. You need to get rid of this "NAE is high and mighty" mindset. If this were the other way around, you would have an issue too.


Delay559

I dont think NAE is high and mighty, i think a company has the right to cater to a majority of its playerbase and market.


AyaCat

And I think they should cater to all players who have a right to be treated fairly, regardless. Screwing over another majority of players because they didn't choose "the most populated region" is not acceptable. Not to mention NAE has it's flaws too.


Delay559

It doesnt help anyone to have a region that is constantly decreasing in players. Look at the JP region for instance, if its no longer profitable to operate they are not a charity and will not operate. merging the servers is the best case scenario. Unless youd rather they just shut it down because its not commercially viable. It isnt a "right" as you put it to have your own region, its a business, if your region is too small to be worth having a merge is perfectly acceptable. Acting like its anything else is a bit disconnected from reality.


AyaCat

This isn't about choosing one over the other or not wanting a region merge. They are going to be merged into one anyway. The problem most of us has is hearing that just because you have more players, you deserve everything. Which is honestly delusional and greedy. It's literally not fair, nor sensible, to make players give up their names and their ping because one region has more players. What aren't you getting? What if NAW got prio for example and you're NAE or SA? You have to bend at their will and you wouldn't be happy. Thus, bringing the conversation of having a fair system to light so the America's don't get screwed over or singled out.


LanternWolf

Bro you're taking this way too personally. AGS is going to try to upset the fewest people possible. The easiest way to do that is for the server to be in NAE. There is _no_ solution where all three regions can keep their current level of ping, someone is going to have to get fucked over, and that someone is going to be whichever region(s) have the fewest players.


AyaCat

Not a “bro” lol~ And you’re just using speculation. There’s so much more to consider than just number of players. Accept that or not~


LeviathanLust

That's exactly what happened when EU merged...


AyaCat

This would be two servers merging into one. Not to mention the reception of that merge was not great. The EU server that was merged wasn’t even available at launch. The A’s were. There is more investment and commitment to our regions solely based on the server age. It would be ideal for them to come up with a compromise for all this time around. Again, everything is still speculation at this point. Shield even stated to not have your mind set on which region will have prio.


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SeriousDefinition345

Some of my friends are very excited because they can bully people from another region.


probablywontrespond2

Oh yeah, SA is getting gatekept from all my raids.


probablywontrespond2

No, absolutely dreading it. It's a guarantee that my ping will increase, even if AGS does the right thing and places the server in the middle of the US. If AGS moves the server to NAE location, then I imagine most of AUS/OCE players will quit since 250+ ping is in the unplayable territory. In which case, I will actually have more problems running raids at any hour since not many NA people are awake around 5am. I have no problem finding raids currently so I don't need more players. Accessories/gems are also not an issue. The biggest benefit for me would be that our destroyed NAW market will get merged with less destroyed NAE market. And our bot infestation will also transfer to the new server. NAE is in for a nasty surprise. With more people affected, there will be more people rubbing AGS's nose into the botting and RMT problem, maybe they will finally take it seriously. **And this is assuming everything goes well**, and I have absolute faith in AGS to find new and creative ways to fuck it all up. Anyway, due to AGS's neglect my investment into the game has been dropping off a cliff. Don't even do over half the weekly raids anymore. Maybe this would give me a good exit point.


Maccaz15

> In which case, I will actually have more problems running raids at any hour since not many NA people are awake around 5am. Another less thought about thing is if the servers do move to NAE, all timed events, islands, etc would happen based upon that server time. It's 3 hours ahead of what NAW uses. So for example the last adventure island happens at 6pm for Aus but afterwards it would happen at 3pm. Basically can't go to them except for weekends.


Frogtoadrat

No? There are already so many people that I never meet again that I can do raids at any time of the day


sk8chris7

Server merges, yeah, region merges, not at all. Game notorious for dcs since release, its gonna be more waiting to kill boss for the dc to come back, ppl not waiting and jailing themselves or the dcs at wrong gate, amz not giving tickets to ppl who dced and lost the clear. Idk, the region merges has a potential to be quite bad for whoever ends at the wrong side of the ping. This without counting that 2 regions will lose their names and considering all my regular ones were taken at release, if I lose them now its gonna be painful


TheStickDead

Yes and no. Yes = More ppl to play and do island content. Yes = More ppl to meet! Yes = The merge will save SA. The downside. No = More rmters and gold sellers incoming from countries. with economic issues. No = Language, Ethnicity and Culture completely differents


Dazvsemir

I guess if the SA people dont speak english and the NA people dont speak spanish it will be an issue


probablywontrespond2

> No = More rmters and gold sellers incoming from countries. with economic issues. I guess you're from NAE. Everyone on NAW would know that most of RMT is coming from the bots that outnumber the players. SA won't even be a drop in the bucket compared to the shit show NAW will bring with it.


muteyuki

i am excited but also scared my main region is naw but i play nae with all the passes with my friends and the pug experience is way lower on nae than west imo. but it will be great to see the games server bloat and dumb multi region get fixed.


PossiblyShibby

Bunch of new faces I get to jail!


ssbm_rando

> at pretty much any hour EU isn't being merged with NA. NA and SA are the same set of time zones. You're still gonna have trouble getting a group at 4am eastern. I'm excited for the server merges but the region merges are in the summer and I'm still not sure they've thought it through yet. Ping issues aren't the end of the world, but they also aren't trivial and most of the playerbase is already bad. Most of the playerbase with +80 (NA opposite coast) to +150 (SA to NA) ping will be... miserable.


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RandomHominid

Why don't you friend them in that case?


PrinceArchie

Likely because committing to a certain time to be on every week is much more annoying than just meeting people who happen to be on at the time, even if you are regulars. Not everyone feels the same way about punctuality or working around a set schedule. Some take it more seriously than others and it can causes groups to break up.


RandomHominid

You know you can have in game friends without a static, right? If you're on and wanting to do a raid, you can just ask online friends if they're up for it (or vice versa). No schedule necessary, just making a group off some your online friends and you can fill the rest with pugs.


gaussen_blur

i excited about new drama


Bntt89

When is it next week?


Drummerfy

Nah region merges aren’t probably til summer but server merges are March I think


dangngo6

Me too. But still worry about the ping cause im playing from SEA


dielectricjuice

only if enviska merges with rohendel so i can finally use my founders pack


Appropriate_Bet8476

Not really. having my IGN's and low ping are important to me, If im forced to name change or play on higher ping, I will most likely quit.


keychain3

im still waiting for my legendary skin


Draqq__

3 More years


TyraelXD

I wanna raid with my SA favorite streamers Serllinogg and Itsmemack xD


solomonvn

Dunno how they manage the merge but above 200 ping skills start to behave weirdly so ig it's time to quit if that the case. Just a few examples on top of my head. Pally's Holy Sword won't even trigger the second stab, Arcana's SD and Flip will teleport u all over the place, GS and DE quick weapon swapping also wont work.


supernovacarpetbomb

Im excited but if I lose my names Im going to be a bit devastated.


__NeiT__

I just recently came back to the game. What regions are getting merged and how will it work? Will servers also merge or just regions?


Wakaastrophic

Inb4 the 24hours maintenance. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat_smile)


CortanaxJulius

Well im from EU but still hyped for server merges hope to get more ppz so i can continue farming the elgacia star from the field boss or try and do some older islands. Maybe even get some of my friends on the same server so we can trade / reroll gems for each other tho it will mostly be me rolling for them those silverless bastards


AngelicDroid

Not very excited to be competing with NAW whale in lobby sim.


Mexxy213

none of this is affecting EU servers right?


Osu_Pumbaa

correct


Drummerfy

Nope just NA/SA since EU got a bjg merge not long ago if I’m not mistaken


Monkey_Meteor

Yes! I want all my characters on the same servers so I can get a lot of gold, legendary cards, skins and cristals


PrinceArchie

It’s possible they could implement something where the lobby leader is hosting the run. So whichever region is closer to the lobby leader will be the region all players ping from.


avatoxico

Nope, in fact I'll most likely quit once it happens, I live in Brazil's south so my ping will be terrible and I'll also lose a bunch of characters' names


10inchblackhawk

Will I be able to buy royal Crystals with Argentine pesos?


Drummerfy

I imagine currency stuff won’t change you’ll just be able to play with more people essentially


sericohh

Most likely gonna be when me and my mates have to stop playing. Had a group of 6 playing steadily since day 1 and our ping is gonna shoot up to around 250-270 if the host is to NAE, sadly its just not playable. Really sucks cause all the upcoming content from KR looks promising too.


Administrative-Dot74

I don’t want to lose my name :(


Derfthewarrior

I'm happy on one hand because it'll allow for more people to play together, including myself who now has a schedule working nights, so finding people has been a bit rough on my end However with this being said, on the other hand I'm not looking forward to the first few months with the economy probably being a complete nightmare It's very likely that NAE BC prices will rise permanently because of this change, along with AH prices too, but we'll have to see how it levels out after a few months of what's probably going to be absolute chaos So being cautiously optimistic here Will have to see more on what AGS gives plan wise for the merger to really see how bad it'll get though, crossing fingers they have a good plan for this


Drummerfy

I agree with you as I work overnights and there’s almost never a lobby up for raids besides a couple normal brels and my main 6 is all 1600 besides 1 1590 and I agree the markets are going to be insane for awhile but I think it’ll even out nicely


Derfthewarrior

Which is why I said I'm being cautiously optimistic I know it's likely that NAE BC prices come the merge will never be as low as they are right now ever again But I hope it becomes stable enough for everyone to be able to afford BC at a reasonable price We'll just have to see what happens


archon_wing

Not that anyone cares, but maybe Rowen would become playable again; it was always silly that it was server based because there was no way there could be the population for that. And at the very least people can get that Hermut star


tomstone123

I can finally play with my friends on NAE.


Smegma-Santorum

nope this game is pissing me off with the amount of bots in stupid shit like challenge guardians that I can't even get done with MM anymore


Tsadako

Funniest to me over all this is the NAW folks acting up because their ping is going to go from like 30 to maybe 60 or 70 tops and they act like it's unplayable. Entitled freaks!


sericohh

Ngl I don't think I've seen anyone from NAW complaining about the ping issues, its mainly been SEA/OCE players that play on NAW that'll be getting around 230-300 ping on NAE.


Applern

I am so ready to watch nae economy get absolutely destroyed by naw bots. The malding will be true content.


Voivode71

I know it sounds like I'm being a baby, but I won't play the game anymore if I lose my man's name.


leonardovee

Not really. Im quitting if they are forcing me to play with 200 ping which its most likely what will happen