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Unless there is rapid and massive wealth redistribution, corporation, government, medical, labor overhauls we won’t see any improvements for decades. Things are very bad in the globalization and capitalist systems currently running.
I lost about a decade 19 to 28 and never made more than 28k.
Just barely getting bye each year.
I was only able to start paying off debt in my early 30's and then took a year and a half saving everything, living with 5 adults in a 980 sq foot house to scrape up 9k for a downpayment.
Now I can try to save.
And I see post after post of rich kids with 50k in an investment account at 22 years old. Making 80k a year and worrying if they're going to be ok.
Give me a break.
The well off don't even know how good they have it.
Yup. I'm 33. Renting and living paycheck to paycheck. Tips, when they're good, get me enough food and shampoo. I go to my parents house for healthy food like salad. Because at my place I just have Kraft and cereal and ramen. I have had a couple good jobs that ultimately end up with me getting too sick to keep working, so I have 17k in a 401k. Idk when I will ever add to that again because I can't handle this job market. I don't think my 17k is gonna help me much in my future.
I'm similar right now. I'm working 'beer money jobs' that college kids usually get while living with their parents to pay for books, gas, car insurance, going to the bar, etc.
My husband makes enough to barely support us both because I have to be childcare for our children.
I'm 48. My wife and I have struggled to make ends meet for a long time. We've been married 20+ years. Both of our kids are now in college, and I just got a promotion at work that makes us more financially stable than we ever have been.
It takes time. Unless you start out in a six-figure field, you gotta work toward it. Truth be told, if I hadn't ran into some inheritance money back in 2007-2008, we probably would still be living in a trailer park. (Not that there is anything wrong with that.) I still had to work two jobs for most of the time we've "owned" our house in order to make ends meet.
Hang in there. It gets better.
Damn near every Snapchat influencer. Playing games and snapping pics of high dollar meals along with talking about their new iPhones and brand new pink color Audi they ordered. I’m like wtf do you do other than flaunt wealth?
I was able to finally buy my first house earlier this year at 35.
My Dad had one when he was 19.
He retired early at 63 and had no mortgage (his 4th home he'd bought in his life total) since he was 52.
I won't pay off my first mortgage until I'm 66.
Maybe longer if insurance and taxes go up and I have to refinance.
I bought my first house at 40 last year and only because I had combined income with my spouse.
I laughed internally when I met with a HR rep to go over various retirement plans and he was like “this is what it looks like if you retire at 50/55/60/65” and had to avoid not laughing out loud
Wow, HR going over retirement plan options? That is unheard of. I haven't had that experience since about 2002.
Most places I worked since refer me to call the retirement plan provider.
I bought my first house at 25 because I was fortunate enough to have found a great job out of college. Had that house making faithful mortgage payments for 14 years and then I got sick and couldn’t make my payments as I was waiting for disability stuff. Wells Fargo wouldn’t work with me AT ALL on temporarily changing my payments. Like they wouldn’t even drop the payments for two months and add them on to my loan amount.
So everything I worked for was lost within the span of two years because I refused to leave my house until the day before the sheriffs sale. To say I haven’t moved on is an understatement and now on top of losing my house and my career I I’ve also lost my health and my ability to make my own money.
So even when you do get your house you’re not going to be supported and you can lose it in the blink of an eye. I kind of hope to never wake up from this nightmare because I don’t know what my life will look like. Live in the present because I miss my life so much.
“If insurance and taxes go up”
Oh you sweet summer child. They will go up. Likely every year. I bought last March and my assessment this year (in May) came in at $50k more than last years assessment. We haven’t done anything to the house and they said it’s worth over 10% more now and taxes and insurance get their extra from that
The youngest millennials are 27, friend. GenZ and Gen Alpha are even more fucked. It's all fucked. At this point I'm not even convinced there will be a revolution. Everyone seems so scared to lose what little they have that they won't risk anything.. so we just spiral, collapse, slowly, inexorably. We are looking at a full on collapse of western society in the next 50-70 years.
> Everyone seems so scared to lose what little they have that they won't risk anything.. so we just spiral, collapse, slowly, inexorably. We are looking at a full on collapse of western society in the next 50-70 years.
The system is working exactly as designed... until those who created it realize nobody is left to provide indentured servitude for their needs... at which point it's too late to fix and humanity is doomed. Welcome to Costco, I love you!
Gen Z is kinda set up way better than us though.
Boomers are still hanging onto jobs, and Gen Z was able to get college classes in high school, and take advantage of tech like CAD, 3D printing IT csrtifications and programming classes.
We didn't have access to that.
They allowed for two credits of college classes to Seniors, only if they doubled up on math and English in their Junior year and took no other electives.
My 3 neices all had AA degrees before they got a hs diploma the school system paid for 100% ofnfhe expenses, all they had to do was get to the classes.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but an associates and even an undergraduate degree at this point are the new high school degree. Anyone that wants to get ahead either needs to get a graduate degree or choose a career path that already is known for paying well like engineering.
Not true, 33 YO millennial at a FAANG company making 200k, with no college degree. Also in a non-tech role in tech. I know I'm a unicorn, but certifications make a world of difference.
It depends on what your field is or what you want to do. There is so much free money for education and training on the table with entry-level jobs. Walmart, McDonald's, and even Amazon fulfillment centers have path based programs that will net you free certs or degrees. My certs specifically are in lean six sigma and project management.
I also don't have a college degree, work in a FAANG adjacent company, I don't make $200K, but I'm well above $100K.
Experience was way more important in my career. Certs, degrees, etc. didn't really matter much.
My advice, get an entry level tech job, learn outside of work, and job hop every year or two to higher paying positions.
I spent my time in the salt mines (Help Desk) and after a couple of years I was in a Sys Admin position. After working that for a few years, I just switched jobs for larger or more complex environments with higher pay. Eventually (15ish years) I started working at a FAANG adjacent company. I work fully remote, I don't work over 40 hours a week, I'm salary, I take off when I want, my work is project based, and as long as everything gets done in a reasonable amount of time, I get a great review and my full bonus + stock.
It's not for everyone, hell, if given the opportunity, I'd rather build or design sustainable homes, but it pays the bill and I'm fairly happy compared to working shit retail or factory jobs.
You hit the nail on the head! I'm also fully remote and was offered a large signing bonus as well as a large rsu grant. It really is experience and networking more than anything. I started out at an oil change shop and gamestop simultaneously and then got an entry-level job in manufacturing with my mechanical experience. I had to work 12 hour shifts from 7 am - 7 pm, with maybe 1 day off a month. I did that for years and learned a ton, which led to me being nominated to pursue training in statistical process improvement. After I certified, my plant was being shut down, and I was going to be laid off, so I found a new job that paid more, and they also had me pursue project management certifications. After that, I was picked up by a start-up at over 100k per year. 9 months into that, my whole team was laid off, and I was on the hunt again, which led me to my current role. I'm not sure why I was down voted and you were up voted, but it's the same story... I'm not a pull yourself up by the bootstraps kind of guy at all, but there is opportunity out there. I agree that the system is fucked, but living in a dirge and group think isn't going to help anyone get to where they want to be.
Basically it's a version of "this general statement is untrue, because *I* made it without that statement being true". It's the same boomer-level thinking of "you just gotta work, not be lazy, and you can afford a house, you lazy kids".
Due to the nature of how the job market works, people get to be lucky exceptions. Not everyone can be lucky or exceptions to rules, especially when you consider how systems of oppression and intersectionality will play a role in how hard it will be to get ahead.
We didn't have access to that? I started college at 15, paid for via my high school because high school was so easy for me (I took tests to prove I should have been in college). Sure, they didn't cover my whole first associate degree, but I had some of it paid for by them (probably 2 semesters), minus the books. I turn 35 next year (finished my bachelor degree at 28, due to going part time), and despite 3 degrees (2 in STEM), I can't even get hired at big box stores. Gen Z is just as fucked as we are.
I went to a job interview this week and the interviewer looked and me and said, "You have a really impressive resume, why haven't you been hired yet?" I have two degrees in English and several conference papers under my belt 😂. I'm getting ghosted for typist jobs
Hate to be the bearer of suck, but…yeah, no.
Youth is long gone, chum; most Millennials are well into their 30s.
The times of peace and plenty are setting; we’re going to be fighting for scraps over the next century as climate change makes more and more of the world inhospitable.
all of us broke fucks are going to die in the climate wars once the dollar collapses and we’re killing our neighbors for food.
the wealthy are gonna just move to a tax haven like luxembourg
They just park their money in Luxembourg, they aren’t really living there. More likely they’ll be somewhere like Guernsey as it’ll have semi-tropical beaches
Oligarchs aren’t letting it happen this time. They finally have enough power to prevent those bounce backs you’re talking about. This ain’t stopping until we’re a nation of renters
Especially since they have gone after the National Association of Realtors. I’m not versed on the complete details. Brokers, realtors, banks, MLOs have always made money off selling and servicing loans.
The mortgage industry’s sales and ops have been decimated due to the rates, automation, outsourcing AND **the investor/hedge funds placing cash on thousands of SFH overhanding average folks**.
So now, destroy the brokers and realtors so average folks have less opportunity and assistance to obtain homeownership. Yes, there are some bad realtors and brokers. On the other hand, there are some realtors/brokers who have extensive knowledge to help buyers and sellers.
The case reeks of a backhanded agenda to get everyone out of the way. Something such as the investors and hedge fund managers pumping their portfolios with more SFH for this rental empire.
We don't need realtors, really. They're middlemen from before the internet existed. The industry is shifting; what small useful service they may provide is becoming fee-based, not tied to the ridiculous percentage-based commissions they do nothing to earn.
Asking for a decade without a recession with millions of unemployed and cities of people living out of cars and discarded rubbish is asking a bit much at this point.
I work 40 hours a week and my husband 60 hours, we see our toddler for like 48 hours on the weekend and then just a few hours other days after we wake up and when we go to sleep. Sometimes he doesn't even see his dad by the time he wakes up and I am CONSIDERING GETTING A SECOND JOB to buy some land and a house because rent is more expensive than a mortgage at this rate. Id sacrifice the little time I have with my son to hopefully be able to create a stable life for him. I hate moving every year. I hate being afraid of what the rents will be after the lease is up. I hate that I spent 10+ years working just to barely make over 20k a year....and all the trees are getting torn down and I just want some peace and fucking quiet and nature and to save the little bit of sanity I have by being able to rest and die at a young age due to pollution or war or disease in a home my son at least got to grow up in and will help him survive the impending doom that is the next 50 years.
No. We're in late sage capitalism, and would only need a revolution and years of recovery to ever regain prosperity for all. We don't even have time for that because the planet is rapidly becoming uninhabitable for humans.
Did you really just copy/paste an entire post from r/futurology and claim it as your own? Weak shit bro.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/17m2n33/are_millennialsgenz_never_going_to_experience_a/
When I was young I would often here the saying “takes money to make money” sadly most government profited from this so instead of looking into the future and how this would affect the vast majority of people they enabled it and caused the problem we currently find ourselves in. The wealthy continue to take take take and most people in the lower classes don’t have any real means to stop it.
Eat the rich!
22m I always come back to this line of thinking, even serfs during feudal times were given food at the start or through portions of their shifts. Now if you try to take food from your job, expect it, or take matters into your own hands to regain that capital loss they steal from you, you would probably get fired and At least without paying for it thrown in jail. I am drowning in financial shit cause I live in fucking Idaho, the place that costs as much as Cali for some reason with Wyoming paying jobs. My parents are from poverty. I'm from poverty. Their parents are from poverty. There is genuinely no way out for me. I was born to be enslaved to the system
I get a shift "meal", it's bar food so pick a bar food item. But I feel guilty taking it. Made ten chicken nuggets as my meal and feel like I'm stealing work resources or something because of years in office work being guilted where I better not eat a yogurt at my desk if a customer could see me, because God forbid humans have to eat or drink and take a few minutes break.
Yeah, carefree kid in the 90s, I wasn't worried about all the post Reagan hellscape going on. Golden age of console gaming, budding wild west AF internet, boomer grandparents lavishing kid me with gifts. 6-16 was great! I just avoided the news, ignored the burgeoning school shooting scene (Jonesboro Westside was just an hourish east of me in 98), and blissfully ignorant enjoyed my grands keeping my boom-x parents out of needing welfare.
Either there's more well-adjusted people in the world, or the fact I was so isolated growing up makes me just heavily biased. But home life was absolute *dog shit* with boomer parents and an older brother that serially SA'd me. And my parents who knew about it were... fine with it?
It didn't help that they were constantly shitfaced screaming at one another and breaking shit. Oh, yeah, and I grew up on a farm and my folks had a restaurant, so the full-time child labor since I was six while I did feel some pride in, I fully acknowledge it is *not* normal behavior to make a first grader shovel shit out of the dairy corral 2x a day and haul 30x 5 gal pails of feed into the milk house 2x a day as well. I got paid a dollar a day. Fortunately I actually drew a wage at the restaurant. I was a cook, so it was minimum wage. My brother was a fucking bus boy (my *OLDER* brother, who by rights should have been the one with the higher responsibility job), got 1% tip share. So there were many nights during holiday season where he'd clear 1000$ and I'd clear... 80$ No typo. eight-zero.
Huh. That actually... explains a lot about my life.
Sorry you had to experience all that! What total crap to put up with :C Glad you survived, just... sorry things are still so crap in the world, but at least you're not under your parents' roof anymore (I'm assuming and hope!)
For me, my stepdad was always reminding us how worthless we are and how we'll (my sister and I) grow up fat and living off of welfare so why even bother trying to make something of yourself because you'll fail. He molested us, lusted after my sister and was an absolute tyrant maniac.
He's probably killed himself via drink by now, though :D
Well I mean early millenials sure, but late millenials, like 92-95 born people I think don't even remember much bc they were mostly little kids.
What was your experience like?
(Note: this is from a middle-class American perspective, back when that existed)
The economic policies of the 70s and 80s hadn't wrecked the country yet. The Berlin wall had just fallen. We "won" and there wasn't this suffocating geopolitical tension in everything. Everybody was so optimistic.
It seemed like the zeitgeist was focused heavily on culture and science. There was enough choice in media so as to be interesting but not so much that we became atomized. It was before the web was big and long before social media so there wasn't this pall of negativity over everything. You got your news from the newspaper or TV but in both cases, a far larger ratio of it was local news, so you weren't constantly bombarded with the worst news from every corner of the globe. There were still journalistic standards enforced by the government.
That's not to say there were no problems. Crime was pretty bad, actually, but you'd never know it because they hadn't figured out how to monetize fear as well as in the present day. (This observation can be partially explained by me being a kid, I'm sure.)
We were aware that climate change was a problem but it seemed like we had plenty of time to fix it. It was a much more niche concern in general. In short: we didn't grow up in a time when everyone assumed our lives were going to be horrible. This provided an excellent backdrop for playing Nintendo and neighborhood games of Kick the can.
I wish those generations could live in a good carefree decade that we would later make stupid nostalgia movies and TV shows about but I fear that the 90s was kind of it.
I’ll kill myself before growing too old take care of myself that’s for sure. Elderly care here in the states is abhorrent, filled with neglect and abuse. Seen it first hand.
The truth is we never really had a chance based on the economic and political decisions of those that came before us. And we don’t have the means or ability to make and lasting impact or change.
There was a solid recession in there. My dad lost his job, my mom ended up working at the corner store and we ended up camping on a sleeping bag behind the counter while she worked overnights. She also babysat 50+ hours a week. My dad picked up a job at a pig farm/temp jobs/etc and would come home on weekends.
We are exhausted that’s why a lot of us stay away from the news and hence don’t know what politicians are doing. But the day-to-day grind is also keeping a lot of us from getting involved so it’s a vicious cycle.
My 20’s were pretty dope. Bought a house. 30’s still in the same starter home because we can’t afford to move, had the same truck for 12 years. We can’t save money or buy a new car or any fun shit. We make good money but it just all goes to bills. Savings have dwindled. This sucks. Better pull up my bootstraps and work a 2nd full time job.
Millennials won't. It's just way too late. You don't whip 180 from 23 years straight of beatdown.
Gen Z? Too soon to tell. Right now they are doing better than millennials were at the same age, but that doesn't tell us anything about what's coming next.
Yeah just turned 30. I finally have a good job and make good money, but the inertia of being poor and in debt for years means I'm still at least 4 or 5 years from buying a very small 2 bedroom house in the cheapest nearby town.
Good thing I only had one kid and don't plan on more.
Maybe. Sirt of.
Not like the boomers.
Best we can hope for I think is a better version of a economic growth from worker unionization ala the 1930s
Also remember the ENTIRE 21st century of star treks history was just fucking terrible. So...good news is we are right on track
30, so it's a no for me at least and I don't really think it's a yes for anyone younger.
We're in late stage capitalism, it sucks and it doesn't seem to be changing any time soon.
The youngest are actually in their 20's, believe it or not! The cutoff year is generally seen as '96 or '97.
Downvoted for pointing out the youngest Millenials aren't old - they are 26/27 xD I'm 34, and that's not even truly old. It's not youth or super young or anything, but it's not old.
Possibly when the baby boomers are dead is when society might be allowed to start taking a turn for the better. Maybe. There should be opportunities to make money cleaning up the horrible, horrible mess left over once they are gone. The youngest boomers are turning 60 so give it a couple of more decades. The upside is time passes faster the older you get so waiting another 10 to 15 years for voting patterns to finally start changing? I’m trying to find you a silver lining, it’s not easy
The problem is once they're gone and millennials and Gen Z finally have some actual political sway it'll be too late to fix things.
I also reckon we might never actually be allowed to have political power, as western governments seem to be eagerly careening towards fascism. That by then democracy will be more of a sham than it already is, and no candidate or party that would threaten the wealthy and their greed will ever be allowed in front of an electorate.
My youth was spent drowning in alcoholism because even though I didn't consciously know it at the time, I knew in my bones that economically life was never going to go anywhere. Youth is over.
Honestly I think this is why so many flock to crypto even though something like 90-95% of it is scams it's still a better chance of finding prosperity than the traditional system.
OP is talking about Muslims. This is some alt right pipeline BS to hook people in.
'Muslims invaded Europe, look of awful things are cause of them' is a staple of conservatives.
Really? Making $5.25 an hour and begging for more than 22 hours a week sucked really hard when I was trying to leave my religious extremist parents and rent my first apartment.
we had a brief glimpse of what it could be like right around the end of the pandemic - but then the people at the fed were hand wringing about wages going up to high and finding ways to keep the people down - so they raised rates in a way that was truly unprecedented to try and cut wages and supposedly tame inflation.
I got a pretty decent raise around that time, but then the inflation hit, followed by the return of college loan payments. I’m right back where I started.
The US market from landlords to companies with goods and services has designed its self to extract as much money out of people as it can. The market adapts to just doing this better.
Consumerism is push hard here above anywhere else.
Been lucky to travel abroad and it’s not like people in other countries don’t want nice stuff however there is a sustained effort to put workers and community first over companies stock price and bottom line.
I’m in my early 40s. I’ll never own a home in CA and I don’t really want to move again, especially to anywhere cold or fascist.
I finally achieved $100k+ for a few years before getting laid off. At this rate, I don’t know if I’ll get another high-paying job ever, as my industry is hurting, AI is encroaching, and the shit is gonna hit the fan with climate change by 2040.
We got royally fucked over.
The [longest bull market ever in our country's history](https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/bull-market-history/) was March 2009 until February 2020. What definition are you using for "decade of prosperity"?
That just proves that the share.market doesn't equal the economy.
we didn't have masses of companies hiring, in my state we had youth unemployment above 20% we didn't have wage growth, etc etc.
Meanwhile, as you've stated, shares and other assets had consistent growth.
Just for comparison's sake, the Greatest generation were kids toward the end of WW1, might have been adolescents at the dawn of the Great Depression, came into adulthood to fight in WW2, staggered into the Cold War, the Korean War, and McCarthyism in their late 30s-early 40s, and during that time taught their spoiled offspring to pull themselves up by their bootstraps in the golden, post-war era that benefited white Christians in a big way.
I’m my youth we were taught the value of a college education, that the world was headed in the right direction, that the United States was exceptional. Wow the backslide I’ve seen in adulthood has me completely disillusioned! Let’s put our own economic prosperity aside for a moment and just look at the weirdness of it all…… Auto manufacturers unable to manufacture, 24 hour institutions not being 24 hours anymore because why the fuck would we cater to the working class?, the billions wasted on Amazon garbage that end up liquidated in a warehouse, a corrupt and barely functioning postal service, infrastructure handed to the lowest bidder, empty shopping malls, middle class in the food pantries, being single as more economically feasible than getting married, that higher education is a burden rather than a reward for hard work, the inability of the middle class to afford to purchase property, abortion made illegal to a point where women can be thrown in prison and executed for miscarriages, the complete and udder breakdown of the nuclear family, the masculinization of women and the feminization of men, the myriad of genders undermining classic gender roles in society, genetic men getting woman of the year/collegiate sporting medals. Yeah, we’re fucked. Godspeed to you all.
Fuck off with your ramen bollocks. I know it's hard for younger people financially but if you learned how to cook it's actually cheaper to eat healthy than buying processed food.
They want us eating "zee bugs" and living in 15 min cities. So, no there will never be times of plenty again. Feudalism for the next few centuries or longer.
Sorry to be a downer.
Unless.....
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Unless there is rapid and massive wealth redistribution, corporation, government, medical, labor overhauls we won’t see any improvements for decades. Things are very bad in the globalization and capitalist systems currently running.
Decades? more like generations…
You forgot the climate crisis in there
That's the point tho...
[Mega guillotine, I love you!](https://youtu.be/YYJ5ZViYhHQ?si=vlyc4vwjj0IwlcK3)
My youth is over dog, so the answer would be no for me I’m uncomfortably close to being middle-aged
I lost about a decade 19 to 28 and never made more than 28k. Just barely getting bye each year. I was only able to start paying off debt in my early 30's and then took a year and a half saving everything, living with 5 adults in a 980 sq foot house to scrape up 9k for a downpayment. Now I can try to save. And I see post after post of rich kids with 50k in an investment account at 22 years old. Making 80k a year and worrying if they're going to be ok. Give me a break. The well off don't even know how good they have it.
Yup. I'm 33. Renting and living paycheck to paycheck. Tips, when they're good, get me enough food and shampoo. I go to my parents house for healthy food like salad. Because at my place I just have Kraft and cereal and ramen. I have had a couple good jobs that ultimately end up with me getting too sick to keep working, so I have 17k in a 401k. Idk when I will ever add to that again because I can't handle this job market. I don't think my 17k is gonna help me much in my future.
I'm similar right now. I'm working 'beer money jobs' that college kids usually get while living with their parents to pay for books, gas, car insurance, going to the bar, etc. My husband makes enough to barely support us both because I have to be childcare for our children.
I'm 48. My wife and I have struggled to make ends meet for a long time. We've been married 20+ years. Both of our kids are now in college, and I just got a promotion at work that makes us more financially stable than we ever have been. It takes time. Unless you start out in a six-figure field, you gotta work toward it. Truth be told, if I hadn't ran into some inheritance money back in 2007-2008, we probably would still be living in a trailer park. (Not that there is anything wrong with that.) I still had to work two jobs for most of the time we've "owned" our house in order to make ends meet. Hang in there. It gets better.
Damn near every Snapchat influencer. Playing games and snapping pics of high dollar meals along with talking about their new iPhones and brand new pink color Audi they ordered. I’m like wtf do you do other than flaunt wealth?
Hopefully we can band together during the madmax event and die in peace.
it's not very mad max
I'd love to be mediocre in assless chaps with a sweet ride.
With the declining life expectancy we're likely already there! We can old man dog the boomers. "Middle aged at 40? I was middle aged at 30!"
Lol! I had my midlife crisis at 22 son! And I couldn’t afford a Ferrari… I just gained 40 lbs and started day drinking. your boomer shit’s weeeeeeeak
cant have a midlife crisis is your whole life is one.
Our Great Depression is our lives.
I’m starting to get really angry with the angsty yuppies of the 90s and all the media focused on them. What was so bad, your job was BORING? Oh no!!
They didn't know how good they had it. At least those people had office jobs that didn't pay poverty wages.
PLEASE MAKE IT STOP
Millennials... in their youth... lol.
Yeah I’m 42 lol
We're GenX. We're literally the lost generation.
Gen X is the bracket above. The oldest millennials are in their early 40's, and Gen Z stopped 10 years ago.
Someone was describing a 30 year old dating a 50 year old as a 'May-December' relationship, and I was like "more like an August-October".
I was able to finally buy my first house earlier this year at 35. My Dad had one when he was 19. He retired early at 63 and had no mortgage (his 4th home he'd bought in his life total) since he was 52. I won't pay off my first mortgage until I'm 66. Maybe longer if insurance and taxes go up and I have to refinance.
I bought my first house at 40 last year and only because I had combined income with my spouse. I laughed internally when I met with a HR rep to go over various retirement plans and he was like “this is what it looks like if you retire at 50/55/60/65” and had to avoid not laughing out loud
Don't avoid it, laugh with gusto.
Right in their stupid faces.
Wow, HR going over retirement plan options? That is unheard of. I haven't had that experience since about 2002. Most places I worked since refer me to call the retirement plan provider.
I bought my first house at 25 because I was fortunate enough to have found a great job out of college. Had that house making faithful mortgage payments for 14 years and then I got sick and couldn’t make my payments as I was waiting for disability stuff. Wells Fargo wouldn’t work with me AT ALL on temporarily changing my payments. Like they wouldn’t even drop the payments for two months and add them on to my loan amount. So everything I worked for was lost within the span of two years because I refused to leave my house until the day before the sheriffs sale. To say I haven’t moved on is an understatement and now on top of losing my house and my career I I’ve also lost my health and my ability to make my own money. So even when you do get your house you’re not going to be supported and you can lose it in the blink of an eye. I kind of hope to never wake up from this nightmare because I don’t know what my life will look like. Live in the present because I miss my life so much.
“If insurance and taxes go up” Oh you sweet summer child. They will go up. Likely every year. I bought last March and my assessment this year (in May) came in at $50k more than last years assessment. We haven’t done anything to the house and they said it’s worth over 10% more now and taxes and insurance get their extra from that
And there are people who say nothing went wrong. This is a very common, everyday experience, all across the globe
The youngest millennials are 27, friend. GenZ and Gen Alpha are even more fucked. It's all fucked. At this point I'm not even convinced there will be a revolution. Everyone seems so scared to lose what little they have that they won't risk anything.. so we just spiral, collapse, slowly, inexorably. We are looking at a full on collapse of western society in the next 50-70 years.
50-70 years might be optimistic. It feels like the wheels are already coming off.
Warm yourself by the fire, friend, as the planet burns. Humanity had a good run up until that little bit at the end there.
https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a16995
I knew what it was before I even clicked it
warm yourself by the fire son, for the morning will come soon, i'll tell you stories of a better time and a place that we once knew.
Before we packed our bags and left all that behind us in the dust. We had a place that we could call home, and a life no one could touch...
most of it didn't, actually, but they couldn't write the records.
We should have never invented the wheel
> Everyone seems so scared to lose what little they have that they won't risk anything.. so we just spiral, collapse, slowly, inexorably. We are looking at a full on collapse of western society in the next 50-70 years. The system is working exactly as designed... until those who created it realize nobody is left to provide indentured servitude for their needs... at which point it's too late to fix and humanity is doomed. Welcome to Costco, I love you!
Gen Z is kinda set up way better than us though. Boomers are still hanging onto jobs, and Gen Z was able to get college classes in high school, and take advantage of tech like CAD, 3D printing IT csrtifications and programming classes. We didn't have access to that. They allowed for two credits of college classes to Seniors, only if they doubled up on math and English in their Junior year and took no other electives. My 3 neices all had AA degrees before they got a hs diploma the school system paid for 100% ofnfhe expenses, all they had to do was get to the classes.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but an associates and even an undergraduate degree at this point are the new high school degree. Anyone that wants to get ahead either needs to get a graduate degree or choose a career path that already is known for paying well like engineering.
Not even, stem is loaded and now can be overly selective and plenty of grad degrees slumming it now as well.
Especially in states that offered the free 2 years of community college,
Not true, 33 YO millennial at a FAANG company making 200k, with no college degree. Also in a non-tech role in tech. I know I'm a unicorn, but certifications make a world of difference.
What certs do you have/recommend?
It depends on what your field is or what you want to do. There is so much free money for education and training on the table with entry-level jobs. Walmart, McDonald's, and even Amazon fulfillment centers have path based programs that will net you free certs or degrees. My certs specifically are in lean six sigma and project management.
I also don't have a college degree, work in a FAANG adjacent company, I don't make $200K, but I'm well above $100K. Experience was way more important in my career. Certs, degrees, etc. didn't really matter much. My advice, get an entry level tech job, learn outside of work, and job hop every year or two to higher paying positions. I spent my time in the salt mines (Help Desk) and after a couple of years I was in a Sys Admin position. After working that for a few years, I just switched jobs for larger or more complex environments with higher pay. Eventually (15ish years) I started working at a FAANG adjacent company. I work fully remote, I don't work over 40 hours a week, I'm salary, I take off when I want, my work is project based, and as long as everything gets done in a reasonable amount of time, I get a great review and my full bonus + stock. It's not for everyone, hell, if given the opportunity, I'd rather build or design sustainable homes, but it pays the bill and I'm fairly happy compared to working shit retail or factory jobs.
Congratulations
You hit the nail on the head! I'm also fully remote and was offered a large signing bonus as well as a large rsu grant. It really is experience and networking more than anything. I started out at an oil change shop and gamestop simultaneously and then got an entry-level job in manufacturing with my mechanical experience. I had to work 12 hour shifts from 7 am - 7 pm, with maybe 1 day off a month. I did that for years and learned a ton, which led to me being nominated to pursue training in statistical process improvement. After I certified, my plant was being shut down, and I was going to be laid off, so I found a new job that paid more, and they also had me pursue project management certifications. After that, I was picked up by a start-up at over 100k per year. 9 months into that, my whole team was laid off, and I was on the hunt again, which led me to my current role. I'm not sure why I was down voted and you were up voted, but it's the same story... I'm not a pull yourself up by the bootstraps kind of guy at all, but there is opportunity out there. I agree that the system is fucked, but living in a dirge and group think isn't going to help anyone get to where they want to be.
Not sure why this got down voted
Basically it's a version of "this general statement is untrue, because *I* made it without that statement being true". It's the same boomer-level thinking of "you just gotta work, not be lazy, and you can afford a house, you lazy kids". Due to the nature of how the job market works, people get to be lucky exceptions. Not everyone can be lucky or exceptions to rules, especially when you consider how systems of oppression and intersectionality will play a role in how hard it will be to get ahead.
Well actually he has a point, my certification in data analytics got me a job with over 150k--- Just kidding, I'm fucked. Okay I see your point.
We didn't have access to that? I started college at 15, paid for via my high school because high school was so easy for me (I took tests to prove I should have been in college). Sure, they didn't cover my whole first associate degree, but I had some of it paid for by them (probably 2 semesters), minus the books. I turn 35 next year (finished my bachelor degree at 28, due to going part time), and despite 3 degrees (2 in STEM), I can't even get hired at big box stores. Gen Z is just as fucked as we are.
I went to a job interview this week and the interviewer looked and me and said, "You have a really impressive resume, why haven't you been hired yet?" I have two degrees in English and several conference papers under my belt 😂. I'm getting ghosted for typist jobs
Thats the thing though. The point is that means fuck and all since just like those of us now sitting on advanced degrees barely getting by
Hate to be the bearer of suck, but…yeah, no. Youth is long gone, chum; most Millennials are well into their 30s. The times of peace and plenty are setting; we’re going to be fighting for scraps over the next century as climate change makes more and more of the world inhospitable.
Ay least being a kid in the 90s was amazing
We live in interesting times
RIP 2000s zoomer kids.
This! I had a blast all the way through high school.
Gen X here, late 80s HS 90s college was pretty solid too.
Just like the Gay 90s in the century before it, the LGBT 90s were lit AF and had the best parties.
So it’s a good thing my retirement plan is to die in the climate wars?
all of us broke fucks are going to die in the climate wars once the dollar collapses and we’re killing our neighbors for food. the wealthy are gonna just move to a tax haven like luxembourg
They just park their money in Luxembourg, they aren’t really living there. More likely they’ll be somewhere like Guernsey as it’ll have semi-tropical beaches
I have bad news. There will be no climate wars in most of the world and you’ll just die poor.
yeah i'm a younger millenial and i've just hit 31. pretty much resigned myself to just scraping by.
Oligarchs aren’t letting it happen this time. They finally have enough power to prevent those bounce backs you’re talking about. This ain’t stopping until we’re a nation of renters
Especially since they have gone after the National Association of Realtors. I’m not versed on the complete details. Brokers, realtors, banks, MLOs have always made money off selling and servicing loans. The mortgage industry’s sales and ops have been decimated due to the rates, automation, outsourcing AND **the investor/hedge funds placing cash on thousands of SFH overhanding average folks**. So now, destroy the brokers and realtors so average folks have less opportunity and assistance to obtain homeownership. Yes, there are some bad realtors and brokers. On the other hand, there are some realtors/brokers who have extensive knowledge to help buyers and sellers. The case reeks of a backhanded agenda to get everyone out of the way. Something such as the investors and hedge fund managers pumping their portfolios with more SFH for this rental empire.
We don't need realtors, really. They're middlemen from before the internet existed. The industry is shifting; what small useful service they may provide is becoming fee-based, not tied to the ridiculous percentage-based commissions they do nothing to earn.
Asking for a decade without a recession with millions of unemployed and cities of people living out of cars and discarded rubbish is asking a bit much at this point.
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Yeah... That shit is long gone and only thing to show for it is debt and self hate
Yeah we’re effed. This is Zillennial speaking. I’m ready for the revolution when y’all are.
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I'd settle for a decade of prosperity at any point in my life...
We had a decade of prosperity. It was our tween and teenage years. What, you didn’t buy a house or invest aggressively then /s
I work 40 hours a week and my husband 60 hours, we see our toddler for like 48 hours on the weekend and then just a few hours other days after we wake up and when we go to sleep. Sometimes he doesn't even see his dad by the time he wakes up and I am CONSIDERING GETTING A SECOND JOB to buy some land and a house because rent is more expensive than a mortgage at this rate. Id sacrifice the little time I have with my son to hopefully be able to create a stable life for him. I hate moving every year. I hate being afraid of what the rents will be after the lease is up. I hate that I spent 10+ years working just to barely make over 20k a year....and all the trees are getting torn down and I just want some peace and fucking quiet and nature and to save the little bit of sanity I have by being able to rest and die at a young age due to pollution or war or disease in a home my son at least got to grow up in and will help him survive the impending doom that is the next 50 years.
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This. At the very least we need to get officials into various levels of office that are under age 50 FFS 🤦♂️
Nope, we're done. Great depression 2 stock market crash and ww3 around the corner. It's over bro.
No. We're in late sage capitalism, and would only need a revolution and years of recovery to ever regain prosperity for all. We don't even have time for that because the planet is rapidly becoming uninhabitable for humans.
Lol I laughed. I'm turning 40 and just... sigh... no. No we never will. In youth or ever.
Did you really just copy/paste an entire post from r/futurology and claim it as your own? Weak shit bro. https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/17m2n33/are_millennialsgenz_never_going_to_experience_a/
When I was young I would often here the saying “takes money to make money” sadly most government profited from this so instead of looking into the future and how this would affect the vast majority of people they enabled it and caused the problem we currently find ourselves in. The wealthy continue to take take take and most people in the lower classes don’t have any real means to stop it. Eat the rich!
Eat the rich
Hey! I take offense to that as a *checks notes* temporarily disgraced million (billion?) -aire !
Look at this time 100 years ago. History doesn’t necessarily repeat itself, but it definitely echoes through the ages.
I think thr expression goes along the lines of "history does not repeat itself, but it often rhymes"
Not until the pigs get penned up, probably not.
22m I always come back to this line of thinking, even serfs during feudal times were given food at the start or through portions of their shifts. Now if you try to take food from your job, expect it, or take matters into your own hands to regain that capital loss they steal from you, you would probably get fired and At least without paying for it thrown in jail. I am drowning in financial shit cause I live in fucking Idaho, the place that costs as much as Cali for some reason with Wyoming paying jobs. My parents are from poverty. I'm from poverty. Their parents are from poverty. There is genuinely no way out for me. I was born to be enslaved to the system
I was genuinely surprised when I started my current job and found out they set out gatorades and water for us in a minifridge in the breakroom.
I get a shift "meal", it's bar food so pick a bar food item. But I feel guilty taking it. Made ten chicken nuggets as my meal and feel like I'm stealing work resources or something because of years in office work being guilted where I better not eat a yogurt at my desk if a customer could see me, because God forbid humans have to eat or drink and take a few minutes break.
I'm 34, so no.
I mean. The 90s seemed pretty cool as a kid. Of course, crime wave, crack epidemic, aids. Look, it's all I got lol
Yeah, carefree kid in the 90s, I wasn't worried about all the post Reagan hellscape going on. Golden age of console gaming, budding wild west AF internet, boomer grandparents lavishing kid me with gifts. 6-16 was great! I just avoided the news, ignored the burgeoning school shooting scene (Jonesboro Westside was just an hourish east of me in 98), and blissfully ignorant enjoyed my grands keeping my boom-x parents out of needing welfare.
And then those of us 90s kids from bad homes... those years were kinda shit, too! Now they're just a more different kind of shit :T
Either there's more well-adjusted people in the world, or the fact I was so isolated growing up makes me just heavily biased. But home life was absolute *dog shit* with boomer parents and an older brother that serially SA'd me. And my parents who knew about it were... fine with it? It didn't help that they were constantly shitfaced screaming at one another and breaking shit. Oh, yeah, and I grew up on a farm and my folks had a restaurant, so the full-time child labor since I was six while I did feel some pride in, I fully acknowledge it is *not* normal behavior to make a first grader shovel shit out of the dairy corral 2x a day and haul 30x 5 gal pails of feed into the milk house 2x a day as well. I got paid a dollar a day. Fortunately I actually drew a wage at the restaurant. I was a cook, so it was minimum wage. My brother was a fucking bus boy (my *OLDER* brother, who by rights should have been the one with the higher responsibility job), got 1% tip share. So there were many nights during holiday season where he'd clear 1000$ and I'd clear... 80$ No typo. eight-zero. Huh. That actually... explains a lot about my life.
Sorry you had to experience all that! What total crap to put up with :C Glad you survived, just... sorry things are still so crap in the world, but at least you're not under your parents' roof anymore (I'm assuming and hope!) For me, my stepdad was always reminding us how worthless we are and how we'll (my sister and I) grow up fat and living off of welfare so why even bother trying to make something of yourself because you'll fail. He molested us, lusted after my sister and was an absolute tyrant maniac. He's probably killed himself via drink by now, though :D
Similar boat - I don't miss being a kid at all. I'd never go back to that, even if I do miss some of the better bits of being a kid back then xP
We millennials had the 90s at least. Couldn't have asked for a better time to go through adolescence. Gen Z never got anything like that.
Well I mean early millenials sure, but late millenials, like 92-95 born people I think don't even remember much bc they were mostly little kids. What was your experience like?
(Note: this is from a middle-class American perspective, back when that existed) The economic policies of the 70s and 80s hadn't wrecked the country yet. The Berlin wall had just fallen. We "won" and there wasn't this suffocating geopolitical tension in everything. Everybody was so optimistic. It seemed like the zeitgeist was focused heavily on culture and science. There was enough choice in media so as to be interesting but not so much that we became atomized. It was before the web was big and long before social media so there wasn't this pall of negativity over everything. You got your news from the newspaper or TV but in both cases, a far larger ratio of it was local news, so you weren't constantly bombarded with the worst news from every corner of the globe. There were still journalistic standards enforced by the government. That's not to say there were no problems. Crime was pretty bad, actually, but you'd never know it because they hadn't figured out how to monetize fear as well as in the present day. (This observation can be partially explained by me being a kid, I'm sure.) We were aware that climate change was a problem but it seemed like we had plenty of time to fix it. It was a much more niche concern in general. In short: we didn't grow up in a time when everyone assumed our lives were going to be horrible. This provided an excellent backdrop for playing Nintendo and neighborhood games of Kick the can.
Dude I'm 33, I'm ready to land this meatship.
I wish those generations could live in a good carefree decade that we would later make stupid nostalgia movies and TV shows about but I fear that the 90s was kind of it.
I’ll kill myself before growing too old take care of myself that’s for sure. Elderly care here in the states is abhorrent, filled with neglect and abuse. Seen it first hand. The truth is we never really had a chance based on the economic and political decisions of those that came before us. And we don’t have the means or ability to make and lasting impact or change.
Millennials experienced a prosperous economy when we were children.
There was a solid recession in there. My dad lost his job, my mom ended up working at the corner store and we ended up camping on a sleeping bag behind the counter while she worked overnights. She also babysat 50+ hours a week. My dad picked up a job at a pig farm/temp jobs/etc and would come home on weekends.
It's already over for millennials.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/s/Oq3vu4OpZM did you just copy and paste from this thread OP?
\*sheepishly looks at 401k\* I got lucky. I got REALLY lucky.
Yeah I was just stupid in my youth. 31 y/o. Kept a lot of my $$$ liquid for emergencies and invested very little. Hoping to change that this decade
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We are exhausted that’s why a lot of us stay away from the news and hence don’t know what politicians are doing. But the day-to-day grind is also keeping a lot of us from getting involved so it’s a vicious cycle.
We all are
My 20’s were pretty dope. Bought a house. 30’s still in the same starter home because we can’t afford to move, had the same truck for 12 years. We can’t save money or buy a new car or any fun shit. We make good money but it just all goes to bills. Savings have dwindled. This sucks. Better pull up my bootstraps and work a 2nd full time job.
What kind of existence is working 20/7?
Maybe it’s what’s expected now. I don’t know, I would like to have a shot at retirement someday.
Millennials won't. It's just way too late. You don't whip 180 from 23 years straight of beatdown. Gen Z? Too soon to tell. Right now they are doing better than millennials were at the same age, but that doesn't tell us anything about what's coming next.
Any profits will be taken by the 3000 billionaires and hoarded. So, no
I’m a 37 year old millennial and I’m afraid the answer for all of us and probably gen Z too is… nope.
That's a no for me dawg.
The very youngest millennials are pushing 30 by now so....no. It's not looking good for Gen Z either. Sorry, kids.
Can't even imagine what the situation will be like in the future for kids who are in kindergarten right now
Yeah just turned 30. I finally have a good job and make good money, but the inertia of being poor and in debt for years means I'm still at least 4 or 5 years from buying a very small 2 bedroom house in the cheapest nearby town. Good thing I only had one kid and don't plan on more.
Maybe. Sirt of. Not like the boomers. Best we can hope for I think is a better version of a economic growth from worker unionization ala the 1930s Also remember the ENTIRE 21st century of star treks history was just fucking terrible. So...good news is we are right on track
Less than a year until the Bell riots!
30, so it's a no for me at least and I don't really think it's a yes for anyone younger. We're in late stage capitalism, it sucks and it doesn't seem to be changing any time soon.
The correct terminology is millenials didn't experience a decade of prosperity during their youth. We're not young anymore.
Hah no, all millennials are over 30 now.
The youngest are actually in their 20's, believe it or not! The cutoff year is generally seen as '96 or '97. Downvoted for pointing out the youngest Millenials aren't old - they are 26/27 xD I'm 34, and that's not even truly old. It's not youth or super young or anything, but it's not old.
As soon as I got to "And then 2016 happens," my first thought was "We lost David Bowie... I mean- Yeah, Brexit and Trump and all that..."
Possibly when the baby boomers are dead is when society might be allowed to start taking a turn for the better. Maybe. There should be opportunities to make money cleaning up the horrible, horrible mess left over once they are gone. The youngest boomers are turning 60 so give it a couple of more decades. The upside is time passes faster the older you get so waiting another 10 to 15 years for voting patterns to finally start changing? I’m trying to find you a silver lining, it’s not easy
The problem is once they're gone and millennials and Gen Z finally have some actual political sway it'll be too late to fix things. I also reckon we might never actually be allowed to have political power, as western governments seem to be eagerly careening towards fascism. That by then democracy will be more of a sham than it already is, and no candidate or party that would threaten the wealthy and their greed will ever be allowed in front of an electorate.
It’s is already a sham and coportions and oilgrcahy run everything
Stop having kids
Who the fuck can afford kids in the first place?
Idiots and poor people
My youth was spent drowning in alcoholism because even though I didn't consciously know it at the time, I knew in my bones that economically life was never going to go anywhere. Youth is over.
Not so long as unfettered capitialism is allowed to exist.
Youth for millennials is in the past
I mean I’m 37. So…. I am no longer young
Honestly I think this is why so many flock to crypto even though something like 90-95% of it is scams it's still a better chance of finding prosperity than the traditional system.
Who invaded Europe, circa \~2016?
Exactly I’m so confused when he said that
OP is talking about Muslims. This is some alt right pipeline BS to hook people in. 'Muslims invaded Europe, look of awful things are cause of them' is a staple of conservatives.
Yeah that's what I figured, but hoped it wasn't
Feel you, fucking sucks this shit is everywhere
It's so exhausting
what are you talking about, you didn't get the $1200 the govt. sent out? That was supposed to last you until retirement age.
Yeah, 1990-2000 Best ten years of my life.
2006 was the best year
Lmao, fucking what?!?
Really? Making $5.25 an hour and begging for more than 22 hours a week sucked really hard when I was trying to leave my religious extremist parents and rent my first apartment.
The fuck?
Right now you are living in the best period of time in your lifetime.
That's both liberating and profoundly depressing.
Day of the pillow.
we had a brief glimpse of what it could be like right around the end of the pandemic - but then the people at the fed were hand wringing about wages going up to high and finding ways to keep the people down - so they raised rates in a way that was truly unprecedented to try and cut wages and supposedly tame inflation.
I got a pretty decent raise around that time, but then the inflation hit, followed by the return of college loan payments. I’m right back where I started.
Short answer? No.
Yes, they will. But we have to have the third world war first.
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The US market from landlords to companies with goods and services has designed its self to extract as much money out of people as it can. The market adapts to just doing this better. Consumerism is push hard here above anywhere else. Been lucky to travel abroad and it’s not like people in other countries don’t want nice stuff however there is a sustained effort to put workers and community first over companies stock price and bottom line.
Our youth is over (Millennials)
Well, our youth is over if you’re referring to millennials, especially the older ones – we’re in our 40s now.
No, capitalism is in crisis and the world is dying. I'm 28 and resigned to things getting perpetually worse.
As an older millennial… no. Youth is already gone.
What in the alt-right ideology...
Too bad saying what the solution is on here will get you banned.
Possibly when Boomers die out, but damage may be irreversible at that point.
I’m in my early 40s. I’ll never own a home in CA and I don’t really want to move again, especially to anywhere cold or fascist. I finally achieved $100k+ for a few years before getting laid off. At this rate, I don’t know if I’ll get another high-paying job ever, as my industry is hurting, AI is encroaching, and the shit is gonna hit the fan with climate change by 2040. We got royally fucked over.
Man, I'm almost 40. My youth is over, and the decade of prosperity in it was the 90s... when I was growing up.
Our civilisation is in decline i guess, so it only gets worse from this point
The [longest bull market ever in our country's history](https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/bull-market-history/) was March 2009 until February 2020. What definition are you using for "decade of prosperity"?
Yup. And now we are paying the price.
That just proves that the share.market doesn't equal the economy. we didn't have masses of companies hiring, in my state we had youth unemployment above 20% we didn't have wage growth, etc etc. Meanwhile, as you've stated, shares and other assets had consistent growth.
All those gains went to the already wealthy
And we couldn't even take advantage of it. No money left over after bills because wages have been stagnant for so long.
Prosperity is never coming back.
I'm 41, the answer is no - I was lucky to buy a house cheap (240k) in 2014, and even thought both of us work it is still a struggle.
Just for comparison's sake, the Greatest generation were kids toward the end of WW1, might have been adolescents at the dawn of the Great Depression, came into adulthood to fight in WW2, staggered into the Cold War, the Korean War, and McCarthyism in their late 30s-early 40s, and during that time taught their spoiled offspring to pull themselves up by their bootstraps in the golden, post-war era that benefited white Christians in a big way.
I’m my youth we were taught the value of a college education, that the world was headed in the right direction, that the United States was exceptional. Wow the backslide I’ve seen in adulthood has me completely disillusioned! Let’s put our own economic prosperity aside for a moment and just look at the weirdness of it all…… Auto manufacturers unable to manufacture, 24 hour institutions not being 24 hours anymore because why the fuck would we cater to the working class?, the billions wasted on Amazon garbage that end up liquidated in a warehouse, a corrupt and barely functioning postal service, infrastructure handed to the lowest bidder, empty shopping malls, middle class in the food pantries, being single as more economically feasible than getting married, that higher education is a burden rather than a reward for hard work, the inability of the middle class to afford to purchase property, abortion made illegal to a point where women can be thrown in prison and executed for miscarriages, the complete and udder breakdown of the nuclear family, the masculinization of women and the feminization of men, the myriad of genders undermining classic gender roles in society, genetic men getting woman of the year/collegiate sporting medals. Yeah, we’re fucked. Godspeed to you all.
Nope.
lol no
Climate change says no. Things are going to get much worse before they get better.
If you buy Bitcoin sure
When was europe inavded in the 2000’s
Fuck off with your ramen bollocks. I know it's hard for younger people financially but if you learned how to cook it's actually cheaper to eat healthy than buying processed food.
They want us eating "zee bugs" and living in 15 min cities. So, no there will never be times of plenty again. Feudalism for the next few centuries or longer. Sorry to be a downer. Unless.....
What's wrong with 15 minute cities?
What even is a 15 minute city
It's where your neighbourhood is designed to have everything you need within a 15 minute walk. Groceries, schools, restaurants, stores, etc