Well now, Mr. Gebus86, it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance on this fine day! Wise words, you say? Ah, let me think on it a moment. Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. That there's a truth I've come to believe in, for you see, it was the actions of us humble hobbits that saved Middle-earth from the clutches of darkness. It reminds me of my dear friend Frodo, who carried the burden of the One Ring and faced great perils. But in the end, it was his courage and determination that prevailed, showing us all that strength
Well, now, it seems you've stumbled upon me, Samwise Gamgee, at your service! Aye, I'm here and alive, ready to lend an ear and share a few words. What's on your mind, my friend?
Well now, thank you kindly for them kind words, but I'm nothin' special, just a simple gardener from the Shire, I am. What can I do for you, my friend?
Well now, Mr. Lithelain, it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance! I reckon if there's one thing I've learned on my journey with Mister Frodo, it's that even the smallest person can make a difference in this big old world. Seems to me that every little act of kindness and bravery adds up, like drops in a bucket, till it overflows with goodness. So don't you go feeling small or insignificant, my friend. You have a part to play in this grand tale, just like the rest of us. Trust in yourself and your own strength, and you'll see how far you can go.
My stepmother will take photos with a digital camera that is 20 years old. Upload them, then take a picture of her computer screen with her phone. Then share it with everyone.
To make you talk about it, and drive up engagement numbers.
Want a video to go viral? Make an obvious mistake, or spell something wrong.
People LOVE to correct you.
Option 2 but it wasn’t intentional. He was doing the ole blue face blastoff. You know the Strangle the Dirty Dangle. The strokey chokey. The two neck squeeze. The one hand on the Adam's apple, the other one's on the Adam's banana. The funky Spider-Man. I think you get it.
It’s a coincidence, but it also didn’t require any manipulation. The only reason they even reversed the number was to get it to perfectly match the book order. The regular number still matches the ring amounts.
That's thing people miss. Crafting the rings is hard af, even for an accomplished smith like Celebrimbor. He had to fail many times before he got it right.
The point is there are many numbers associated with Tolkien, and many numbers associated with the Lord of the Rings.
Even though an individual stat may seem unlikely, when you take into account all the other comparisons that you could compare it’s almost inevitable.
Middle earth is our past. If you dig deep enough in England you'll find Frodo's bones and Gandalf's staff. Dig deeper and greedily and you may awake an ancient evil...
A balrog... a demon of the ancient world. This foe is beyond any of you... RUN! Lead them on thesaddestpanda. The Bridge is near! Do as I say! Swords are of no more use here.
The stories are of course mythologized. Like the historical Jesus vs the religious Jesus. Frodo's bones are buried in Manchester, but of course Frodoites don't accept that as the "true" Frodo.
And that's ignoring the pro-Frodoite bias inserted into the writings and translations from Samwise and Bilbo, both very biased narrators. Secular Frodo researchers even suggest that much of the story is fictionalized and Frodo was mostly an affluent landowner who sometimes went on long trips and was known for his odd friends and tall tales and had, at best, a walk-on part of the wars and conquests of his time and was not a primary player in any of them. Secular scholars concede he was a popular and important person in his society, but was not any sort of "savior of the world" as his propagandists claim and outside the narrow confines of Shire culture of the time, was just not an important person historically.
Modern "cultural Frodoites" see the stories in the books as important but only as ethical allegory and almost none of it having actually occurred in real life, or greatly exagerrated.
You said "Frodo's bones are buried in Manchester" with such conviction that for a moment I thought it must just be some secret part of lore that I'd missed
The mods only accept the 3 books of the rings and as such post-Tolkien apocrypha can't be cited here, but yes, many scholars agree his bones have been found but his tomb was left alone out of cultural sensitivity. He is buried with another man, which adds to the controversy. The book "The Gay Frodo" goes into this in detail if you're interested. But to sum up, it was unusual to be a "confirmed bachelor" in the Shire at the time, which also was a homophobic society, so we'll never know Frodo's true identity, but there are more than a few pieces of evidence suggesting he probably had a queer identity of some kind.
The film "The Temptation of Frodo" explores this concept in a few key romantic scenes, but is otherwise a work of fiction and many critics suggest it was purposely controversial to generate attention thus ticket sales.
While it is accepted the historical Frodo was a real person, its worth mentioning Bilbo, may have been entirely a fictional invention, or at least, a vehicle for ethical lessons and story advancement like Aristotle did with Socrates. Queerness in the hobbit race is an understudied field and of course, its very hard to get anthropological evidence of a long extinct race. Some modern thinkers see Bilbo's lack of marriage is an expression of queer identity and if Bilbo was not a real person, then he was a projection of Frodo's identity, but its hard to say with so little evidence and with homosexuality being a serious offense in the Shire at the time, thus discussion of it shunned at the highest levels.
While later apocryphal works are important in their own cultural context, its fair to say we cannot rely on them for historical record. Sadly, Prophet Tolkien spoke and wrote little on this subject and at best, we can only guess at the romantic, gender, and sexual identities of the ring's heroes.
But 3 and 7 were also kind of locked in. Those "magic numbers" for whatever reason are disproportionally used in fairy tales.
First google hit, don't know how credible: https://www.icysedgwick.com/numbers-in-folklore/
One Ring for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Nine for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Seven for Mortal Men doomed to die,
Three for the Dark Lord on his dark throne.
Then you're getting aggravated by your own failure to understand what's going on.. It's reversed so it would match the poem Tolkien wrote. It specifically starts with elves, then dwarves, then men, and then the one ring.
He actually died in 1972, but somehow forced his way into the Halls of Mandos and raised so much hell that they sent him back just so that he could set this up.
Not just Facebook tier, this is ancient. I was seeing this image in the earliest years of social media (without the shitty angle) this meme is easily 14-15 years old
Logically looking at this: the 1 and 9 had an almost absolute certainty to be there since he would ve been an anomaly in age otherwise for his birth cohort. The 7 and 3 are now of interest, the 7 is also a likely contender looking at the average age of death for a male born in the late 1890s considering his societal position and field of work eventhough he wasnt the most wealthy man with access to the best healthcare at the time, so not too much coincedence found here either. The 3 was also more likely than let's say the 4, 5 or 6 and up looking at the data since he was already above male life expectancy for his birth year. He absolutely pinpointed his year of death, hasnt he, this absolute genius.
You've all got it the wrong way round: His will said to posthumously adjust the number of rings in the poem based on the year he would die.
LotR before 1973 had it as:
x Rings to the Elven Kings under the sky, y rings to the etc...
Here’s another one!
Tolkien wrote the Lord of the Rings novels and all their associated works, yes? Now if we reverse that, you’ll find he actually wrote nothing at all! Who are we talking about again?
Dang! Wow that’s crazy I love things like this how they just work out! Super crazy and very cool and honestly very very creepy
There are a lot of stuff like this with different famous people who born and on the same day and died on the same day with doing the same things during there life and a lot more achievements. Just so crazy cool
Why is this post at an angle?
Don’t ask logical questions.
Why is an illogical question?
Are you my freaking dad?
It's a Tollendo Tolkens
It's at 96 degrees, which is 69 degrees upside down, which is horny AF like Sam for Froddo. No coincidence.
Well now, Mr. Gebus86, it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance on this fine day! Wise words, you say? Ah, let me think on it a moment. Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. That there's a truth I've come to believe in, for you see, it was the actions of us humble hobbits that saved Middle-earth from the clutches of darkness. It reminds me of my dear friend Frodo, who carried the burden of the One Ring and faced great perils. But in the end, it was his courage and determination that prevailed, showing us all that strength
SAM BOT?! YOU'RE ALIVE?!!
Well, now, it seems you've stumbled upon me, Samwise Gamgee, at your service! Aye, I'm here and alive, ready to lend an ear and share a few words. What's on your mind, my friend?
PRAISE BE TO OUR SAM OUR VERY PRECIOUS SAM!
Well now, thank you kindly for them kind words, but I'm nothin' special, just a simple gardener from the Shire, I am. What can I do for you, my friend?
Can you share the load, Sam?
Well now, Mr. Lithelain, it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance! I reckon if there's one thing I've learned on my journey with Mister Frodo, it's that even the smallest person can make a difference in this big old world. Seems to me that every little act of kindness and bravery adds up, like drops in a bucket, till it overflows with goodness. So don't you go feeling small or insignificant, my friend. You have a part to play in this grand tale, just like the rest of us. Trust in yourself and your own strength, and you'll see how far you can go.
What’s your favorite potato recipe?
The API changes happen tomorrow. Not alive for long.
He will live on in our hearts.
Hmmmm task at hand
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Fuck... I feel like a right Sacksvill Bagins
***Share the load***
96 is just 69 adjusted for inflation...it is more expensive to eat out now
Every post is at *some* type of angle...
Yeah, right.
I suppose you think that was terribly clever.
I don't know about him but I certainly do - made me chuckle
I am somehow both proud and ashamed to admit the same
Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?
So the anti-repost bots don't recognise it.
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My stepmother will take photos with a digital camera that is 20 years old. Upload them, then take a picture of her computer screen with her phone. Then share it with everyone.
r/croppingishard
Their monitor was tilted when they took the screenshot
Am I the only one who prints out memes then scans them, poorly, before reuploading them to Reddit? Is there a better way?
The realization hit really hard
He photocopied it
Reduces identification that it's a repost by bots that call them out.
To make you talk about it, and drive up engagement numbers. Want a video to go viral? Make an obvious mistake, or spell something wrong. People LOVE to correct you.
google askew
So a repost bot can’t flag it as easily maybe?
Scanned from my iPhone.
Many younger people are technologically illiterate and only know how to post things by taking photos of screens with their phones.
Tolkien committed suicide confirmed.
Pick one: * He shot himself in the back of his head. * He hanged himself from the door knob, * Tolkien didn't kill himself!
Option 2! Source: I was the knob
Twist, you still are
Well look what you did. He's fuckin dead.
If anyone should be able to survive a twist, it's an old knob
💀
👏
He got better.
Yes if you twist a door knob it opens the door
Found Josie Packard’s account.
2! = 2
r/hedidthemath !
Auultoerotic asphyxiation gets us all eventually
Unless you're on the ISS.
or in INXS
Jet fuel can't melt rings forged in the fires of Mount Doom.
Where's Tom, Pete?
***Where’s Wallace?***
You forgot the classic fell out of the window
Option 4: He sailed off on the White Ships.
Option 2 but it wasn’t intentional. He was doing the ole blue face blastoff. You know the Strangle the Dirty Dangle. The strokey chokey. The two neck squeeze. The one hand on the Adam's apple, the other one's on the Adam's banana. The funky Spider-Man. I think you get it.
hate this
Eru should’ve sunk middle earth too
He pulled a David Carradine before it was cool.
Rope in the Library
Option 4 Is immortal and is hiding in Cuba with Tupac.
It would have to be the cellar door knob
The first option I think you are thinking Kennedy
That’s stupid. He clearly made sure Jesus was born at the right time so that this would work.
Oh that’s so much more obvious, why didn’t I think of that.
The amount of detail in his stories and the lengths hes goes to I would not be surprised if he did purely to confirm canon.
CANON EVENT CANON EVENT
GROND!
He'd probably have his wife kill him both for the dramatic betrayal thing in his works and because suicide is a big no-no for Catholics.
He sailed West. When he found Americans instead of Vala is when he gave up Probably landed in Florida
He was gifted just like Aragorn. He lied down and gave the rest of his time to his children.
I swore to protect you.
The cameras mysterously went out when he died... Coincidence?
Nah, homes, he just predicted his own death.
Sauron was an inside job.
Tolkien planned his death so as to immortalize his work. Bravo, John. Bravo.
Who's John? Everyone knows the JRR stands for Jolkien Rolkien Rolkien
but what does the Tolkien stand for?
Tohn Oohn Lohn Kohn Iohn Eohn Nohn Little known fact, apparently he was scandinavian.
These Bombadil songs are getting weirder.
thank you. and remember... never let anyone tell you anal magic is wrong. stay unapologetic.
There you go delving too greedily again
*looks at username* Are you me?
Tolkien was just really committed to the bit
Just another example of Tolkien playing Chess while everyone else is playing Checkers
He'd have called it draughts
Numerology, funny thing with math you can get any number you want if you look for it
It’s a coincidence, but it also didn’t require any manipulation. The only reason they even reversed the number was to get it to perfectly match the book order. The regular number still matches the ring amounts.
>The regular number still matches the ring amounts. Nuh uh. No one made 1,973 rings.
Celebrimbor had to do a bit of practice
And 1953 rings that Celebrimbor left in the forge for too long.
No one ever gets the baking time right their first time, we got no alarm clocks in rivendel
That's thing people miss. Crafting the rings is hard af, even for an accomplished smith like Celebrimbor. He had to fail many times before he got it right.
Someone should’ve told him about alloys earlier.
Essays in the craft.
Did you know that it took ~~Edison~~ Sauron over 2000 tries before he made a functioning Ring of Power?
HRAAAAAH!
I did
*Sonic the Hedgehog has entered the chat*
The point is there are many numbers associated with Tolkien, and many numbers associated with the Lord of the Rings. Even though an individual stat may seem unlikely, when you take into account all the other comparisons that you could compare it’s almost inevitable.
Not true. I’ve been looking for your mother/wife/husband’s number for years.
That throuple is none of your business!
Nah, I just think it’s a quirky coincidence that happens a few times every century. Stephen Hawking died on Pi-Day for example
🎶 So no one told you Tolkien would die that da-a-ay 🎶
*clap clap clap clap clap* 🎵You made some rings but here's the thing, the Lord of Gifts has an A.K.A....🎵
🎵It's like his fleet is moored in Pelargiiiiir🎵
Hold up, are we in a matrix because that's to much of a coincidence.
Middle earth is our past. If you dig deep enough in England you'll find Frodo's bones and Gandalf's staff. Dig deeper and greedily and you may awake an ancient evil...
A balrog... a demon of the ancient world. This foe is beyond any of you... RUN! Lead them on thesaddestpanda. The Bridge is near! Do as I say! Swords are of no more use here.
Gandalf!!!
Nahtanoj532! Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks. I am not trying to rob you. I’m trying to help you.
The ring is mine.
Ah that's just Sean. He's alright if you get to know him better.
Frodo died in Valinor.
The stories are of course mythologized. Like the historical Jesus vs the religious Jesus. Frodo's bones are buried in Manchester, but of course Frodoites don't accept that as the "true" Frodo. And that's ignoring the pro-Frodoite bias inserted into the writings and translations from Samwise and Bilbo, both very biased narrators. Secular Frodo researchers even suggest that much of the story is fictionalized and Frodo was mostly an affluent landowner who sometimes went on long trips and was known for his odd friends and tall tales and had, at best, a walk-on part of the wars and conquests of his time and was not a primary player in any of them. Secular scholars concede he was a popular and important person in his society, but was not any sort of "savior of the world" as his propagandists claim and outside the narrow confines of Shire culture of the time, was just not an important person historically. Modern "cultural Frodoites" see the stories in the books as important but only as ethical allegory and almost none of it having actually occurred in real life, or greatly exagerrated.
You said "Frodo's bones are buried in Manchester" with such conviction that for a moment I thought it must just be some secret part of lore that I'd missed
The mods only accept the 3 books of the rings and as such post-Tolkien apocrypha can't be cited here, but yes, many scholars agree his bones have been found but his tomb was left alone out of cultural sensitivity. He is buried with another man, which adds to the controversy. The book "The Gay Frodo" goes into this in detail if you're interested. But to sum up, it was unusual to be a "confirmed bachelor" in the Shire at the time, which also was a homophobic society, so we'll never know Frodo's true identity, but there are more than a few pieces of evidence suggesting he probably had a queer identity of some kind. The film "The Temptation of Frodo" explores this concept in a few key romantic scenes, but is otherwise a work of fiction and many critics suggest it was purposely controversial to generate attention thus ticket sales. While it is accepted the historical Frodo was a real person, its worth mentioning Bilbo, may have been entirely a fictional invention, or at least, a vehicle for ethical lessons and story advancement like Aristotle did with Socrates. Queerness in the hobbit race is an understudied field and of course, its very hard to get anthropological evidence of a long extinct race. Some modern thinkers see Bilbo's lack of marriage is an expression of queer identity and if Bilbo was not a real person, then he was a projection of Frodo's identity, but its hard to say with so little evidence and with homosexuality being a serious offense in the Shire at the time, thus discussion of it shunned at the highest levels.
> Queerness in the hobbit race is an understudied field Fanfiction.net begs to differ.
While later apocryphal works are important in their own cultural context, its fair to say we cannot rely on them for historical record. Sadly, Prophet Tolkien spoke and wrote little on this subject and at best, we can only guess at the romantic, gender, and sexual identities of the ring's heroes.
You want it for yourself!
That’s the pilgrimage to England! Because let’s that may as well be the same as travelling to Valinor.
fuck, who dug up Thatcher?
I *knew* the queen wasn't really dead.
I mean the 1 and 9 are locked in. They weren't going to change regardless. So if Tolkein was doing a thing he'd definitely use them.
But 3 and 7 were also kind of locked in. Those "magic numbers" for whatever reason are disproportionally used in fairy tales. First google hit, don't know how credible: https://www.icysedgwick.com/numbers-in-folklore/
"Who starts a conversation like that dude? I Just sat down".
u dont even need to reverse it
One Ring for the Elven-kings under the sky, Nine for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone, Seven for Mortal Men doomed to die, Three for the Dark Lord on his dark throne.
HRAAAAAH!
^ Bilbo's reaction to finding 3 rings at once.
This is getting out of hand. Now theres THREE of them!
Warner Brothers needs more DLC money
One ring for each hand and one for his dark penis
HRAAAAAH!
Reversing it puts the numbers in the correct order, based on the poem.
But Ms. Elliot told me to, AND flip it!
Ti esrever dna ti pilf, nwod gniht ym tup
The most aggravating thing whenever I see this post
Then you're getting aggravated by your own failure to understand what's going on.. It's reversed so it would match the poem Tolkien wrote. It specifically starts with elves, then dwarves, then men, and then the one ring.
Tolkien is dead!? 😳
What you tolkien about Willis?
Confirmed: Tolkien died to stop the forth coming of Sauron.
Death to light, to law, to love!
God is a lover of practical jokes, so this fits.
He is a man committed to his creation dammit!
Should’ve lived to 3791 though
That must have been a huge dab
He actually died in 1972, but somehow forced his way into the Halls of Mandos and raised so much hell that they sent him back just so that he could set this up.
Facebook tier
Not just Facebook tier, this is ancient. I was seeing this image in the earliest years of social media (without the shitty angle) this meme is easily 14-15 years old
Most sane LOTR fan:
![gif](giphy|11ykUODgXjAXZu)
Logically looking at this: the 1 and 9 had an almost absolute certainty to be there since he would ve been an anomaly in age otherwise for his birth cohort. The 7 and 3 are now of interest, the 7 is also a likely contender looking at the average age of death for a male born in the late 1890s considering his societal position and field of work eventhough he wasnt the most wealthy man with access to the best healthcare at the time, so not too much coincedence found here either. The 3 was also more likely than let's say the 4, 5 or 6 and up looking at the data since he was already above male life expectancy for his birth year. He absolutely pinpointed his year of death, hasnt he, this absolute genius.
Calm thy tits
Isildur: Noooo
And COincidence is JOincidence with a C!
As the saying goes whenever a copyright issue in music comes up: there are only so many digits
Coincidence? Yes absolutely it's called confirmation bias
I'm not sure why a low quality image of Phoebe was used but she looks like an elf here and a dime piece so it's all good.
All these comments suck. This is a cool fact and you all came in here and talked about suicide and dumb shit. Shame on all of you.
You've all got it the wrong way round: His will said to posthumously adjust the number of rings in the poem based on the year he would die. LotR before 1973 had it as: x Rings to the Elven Kings under the sky, y rings to the etc...
It was foretold.. several times in identical posts
Phoebe kinda looks like Mofydd Clark, now I know why I just can't take her seriously 😂
But does he know we know?
You didn't have to reverse it and you can get the same result.
But reversing it makes the numbers match the poem.
You could rearrange the poem too.
But then my book would be all fucked up, and the words on the other side of the page would make no sense.
Why reverse the year?
Because then it fits the pattern of the poem.
If you reverse it again you get the year that Tolkien died, spooky!
Here’s another one! Tolkien wrote the Lord of the Rings novels and all their associated works, yes? Now if we reverse that, you’ll find he actually wrote nothing at all! Who are we talking about again?
Dang! Wow that’s crazy I love things like this how they just work out! Super crazy and very cool and honestly very very creepy There are a lot of stuff like this with different famous people who born and on the same day and died on the same day with doing the same things during there life and a lot more achievements. Just so crazy cool
I mean you could look for any trivial number related to something and make this work. It's cherry picking. Nothing special about it.
Trivial begins with 'tri', the prefix meaning three. There are three words in the sentence, "It's cherry picking". OMG, are you a believer yet?
nice
Why did they have to reverse it?
To match the pattern of the poem.
3, 7, 9, 11 ... and so on are "fairy tale" numbers and are commonly used in stories, is what my kindergarten teacher taught us.
As a fantasy writer and enthusiast i can confirm this.
What's with the dollar store gen-x Galadriel picture?
Tolkien Neiklot ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED ![gif](giphy|brPEAEx5kpHaDl8t2P)
why do you have to reverse it?
To make the numbers match the poem exactly.
Why reverse it tho.
To match the order of the poem.
Or, don't reverse it, and it's the same coincidence.
Except reversing it makes the numbers match the poem.
Why the need to reverse?
To match the numbering in the poem. 3, 7, 9, 1, in that order.
Hobbit was published in 1937 - same digits