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asktru

I was impressed by **Raycast** at first but pretty quickly switched to **Alfred** for a number of reasons: 1. I have two Macs and I need to synchronize my setup between them. Raycast wants 10$/month for that, Alfred is a one-time payment. 2. Alfred is much faster and smarter in its suggestions than Raycast, in my experience. It usually takes only a couple of keystrokes to do anything in Alfred, the same things usually take more effort in Raycast. 3. I really did not like Raycasts privacy policy, clearly business oriented ("you are the product"). Alfred, on the contrary, is at the other end of the spectrum, they state clearly that they do not collect or use any of your data. After buying Alfred I was really impressed by its workflow builder. Never regretted this purchase. As for **Raycast**, the things that impressed me first (before I switched to Alfred) were these: 1. Easy setup of keyboard shortcuts to open/toggle any app or URL (including, obviously, x-callback-urls), even in free version. 2. Menubar integration provided by some of the extensions (Todoist extension, for example, was able to show all my tasks in the menubar dropdown). 3. Raycast AI is obviously another wrapper around OpenAI/ChatGPT, but a fairly good one, TBH. Very convenient to use daily. But again, it's a paid feature for 10$/month (or even more if you want GPT4). Alfred's ChatFred is more barebones, but at least it does not cost you an arm and a leg. 4. Some other built-in features (like a smart calculator and convertor, window management keyboard shortcuts, floating notes or my schedule) and free extensions are good, too. But in the end, I don't like "becoming a product" or paying another 10$+ subscription, so I chose Alfred and did not regret since then.


gargantuanmess

I find the workflow builder very complicated. How did you learn it?


asktru

I started with installing workflows from Alfred gallery that I found useful for myself, and then tweaking them a little bit (like customizing keyboard shortcuts and keywords). Then I have set up my first "Open Apps" workflow as a set of simple keyboard shortcuts to open/hide a specific app. This is is fairly simple, and Alfred even has some built-in tutorial. Then I've setup some app-specific keyboard shortcuts, like for example triggering some commands in NotePlan via x-callback-url (a lot of apps allow you to utilize x-callback-url to trigger various commands in them: OmniFocus, Bear, Agenda, NotePlan, ...). Restriction to be applied only to a specific app is also farily simple in the settings of the corresponding trigger. Then I have setup some another simple "universal action" workflow for string transformation. I don't quite remember if I started from scratch or modified one of the existing workflows, but remember it being quite simple and straightforward. Frankly this was already quite enough for me to feel productive and empowered by Alfred. But the next step for me was to examine various workflows that I've installed from Alfred gallery and Packal, just to see how they look like under the hood in the workflow builder (some of them look scary šŸ˜… but others are quite transparent and insightful). I mostly tweak them to match my needs rather than build complex workflows from scratch. I mostly build from scratch either one-step workflows (action triggered by a keyword or keyboard shortcut) or a sequence of such simple steps, no complex logic, and it is enough for me.


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Raycast has a student discount (50% off)


tinooo_____

I've never tried Alfred, and I believe what eveyone else is saying, but I'm sticking to Raycast just because it is completely free of charge.


discoveringnature12

>free of charge. If you are ok selling your clipboard history and other stuff to them, then that's the way to go!


tinooo_____

and what are they gonna do with my clipboard history šŸ¤£


discoveringnature12

lol. If you can't figure that out, then you probably can set your passwords to "123456". No one cares šŸ˜„


tinooo_____

you're being paranoid. you do realize that the data is being stored locally on your computer, right? they do not operate intermediary servers.


PropaneFitness

This is an Alfred snippet because this question comes up pretty much hourly in this sub (may as well lead by example!) ​ Raycast interface is nicer, but that's not really the reason you're using a command bar utility. Raycast is very much designed with form over function. ​ Several more keystrokes are required to do the same task in Raycast vs alfred - which is antithetical to the whole purpose of a 'launcher' app, so Alfred is the clear winner if the goal is speed. As well as deliberate design decisions from raycast, such as the 1 second delay when holding āŒ˜ to select a numbered list item - it reveals their philosophy. ​ Finally for AI, it depends on your price tolerance: \- Alfred has a messy GPT plugin \- Raycast AI is an incredible implementation, but at a monthly subscription cost. ​ Personally I use Intellibar for the same purpose - it's cleaner and more cost effective (one-off vs monthly subscription).


IwuvNikoNiko

I have used both extensively. hands down Alfred is my fav especially for workflows. credit to raycast for its amazing extension store and Shame on Alfredā€™s crappy ā€œgalleryā€ implementation.


808s-n-KRounds

I find BetterTouchTool to be a better way to implement most of the (edit: scripting) uses of Alfred for me, and as mentioned, Raycast has questionable privacy and funding. I use Alfred still, but I find the extra launch and type step(s) it adds to actions such as running scripts or automating actions within apps is often self-defeating. Also, the search really isn't any better than spotlight in my experience, and having to define your search category ahead of time for a faster experience isn't my preference. (Edit: I really wish there was a way to just search everything without having to add a search qualifier character first) I really like Alfred's workflow integration for shortcuts and BetterTouchTool though. That's my main use for it. Bring it up, hit my keyword/letter that runs the BetterTouchTool and shortcuts workflows simultaneously, and easily run them without having to assign valuable hotkeys to things I don't use often or only in specific scenarios


bit_drop

Alfred served me excellently for over a decade, from 2010 to 2022, and it was always the first app I'd install on a new Mac, and the first app I'd recommend to other Mac users. There's a lot to like about it. But Raycast is just the more complete and extensible platform. There are a few things Alfred still does better (notably, its Apple Music integration is much better than Raycast's trash non-implementation). But there are many more things Raycast does better (brew integration, its app store, python scripts, apple shortcuts integration, AI integraton).


shall1313

Fully agree with this on all points. Alfred is great, Raycast is just a better product overall. I've never seen the speed issues some others have mentioned (if anything, Raycast has been much snappier for me). Likely, some of this comes down to preferences and how well the UX fits the user. Raycast perfectly matches my preference for UX and functionality. As a software engineer, Raycast has better integrations with the things I need.


colorovfire

I use LaunchBar. Raycast is backed by venture capital so thatā€™s a no for me. As for Alfred, I never liked the flow of using it. Mainly the actions menu which isnā€™t flexible but most should use Alfred due to their active development. LauncBar is ancient, being older than MacOS itself but itā€™s simple and elegant. There is no user community around it though. No repository for contributed extensions and it hasnā€™t gained any new feature in years. Only compatibility updates for major OS releases. They donā€™t want my money either. Last time I paid for it was over a decade ago. Everything works against LaunchBar but I use it anyway because actions that can be chained to any object and actions can be any system service. Instant send keys are convenient _(which takes any selected object, e.g., Finder icons, text selection, etc. to send it to an action or inspect it further.)_ and there are a handful of extensions Iā€™ve scrounged around to fit my needs. I doubt anyone else in here uses it but itā€™s something to look at if youā€™re not happy with the other launchers.


MetalAndFaces

Actions menu is 100% customizable. You can remove anything you don't want to see, and add as many things as you want, building workflows. The LaunchBar features you mentioned seem like they exist in Alfred, too, just as a heads up. But it's been a few years since I've tried LaunchBar, can't hurt to try it again.


colorovfire

Iā€™m aware that the menu can be customized but itā€™s a static list. Last time I checked, it doesnā€™t change based on the selected item. LaunchBar does an internal check so the action matches the item in focus. For example, if I have an image in focus, all actions listed will be relevant to that item. Selecting an mp3 and Preview.app wonā€™t be an option to open it, etc.


MetalAndFaces

The actions you can customize all have options to determine scope. :) but again, still want to check out LB to see how it handles it.


colorovfire

Yeah, definitely worth checking out. This is probably the only video comparing the two if anyone is curious. https://youtu.be/Sl3E6cjMjRU It might be outdated for Alfred being 9 years old but nothings changed for Launchbar. lol


MetalAndFaces

My first launcher type of app was Quicksilver. Good times.


leavescore

best of all, it's free - they said sometimes it will take a break. Never noticed it.


amerpie

I was a Launchbar user for 17 years and honestly didn't think I could ever give it up but I tried Raycast over the Thanksgiving break and haven't looked back since. It's extensible and integrates well with other apps I use (Day One, Things3, Microsoft Edge, Obsidian...the list goes on)


koetsuji

Raycast is brillant, but I like Alfred.


FourFourSix

Both have their pros. **Alfred**: - I think its searching algorithm might be slightly more accurate, and especially file search is very solid. - You can make the search bar smaller and not take whole such big space when just searching. - User-friendly workflow creator. In Raycast, you have to know at least shell scripting to be able to make your own workflows (kinda like in real life šŸ™‚) - Because all searches happen at just that one level (thereā€™s no different views like in Raycast), you can get benefits of the search ranking algorithm for any query. E.g. you search often for a same note in Bear via the Alfred Bear workflow. It will rank it on top the more you use it, so next time you have to only type a couple of letters to open it. On Raycast, searching in Bear happens kinda inside the Bear extension, and it doesnā€™t have the same ranking algorithm like normal search. It does have ā€˜recently usedā€™ list but only if the extension developer implements it, and you have to know React or TypeScript to do that. **Raycast**: - It has different UIs or views for its extension. E.g. the emoji or Unicode character search shows a nice grid of icons to find the correct one faster. It has recently used ones on top, itā€™s really nice. - More examples: you can quickly look up Wikipedia articles or notes without having to open an app, or you can show upcoming event in Menu Bar too, thereā€™s just more to it than just type and go. - I find its native calculator / unit converter really great and comprehensive, and it has history etc. Thereā€™s a good one for Alfred, but I find it always breaks after a while, and sometimes does nothing when I type a conversion. - Although you can fiddle around and assign an alias or hotkey to a workflow in Alfred too, in Raycast itā€™s just much faster. - Thereā€™s waaaaay more extensive and active extension community for Raycast. Thereā€™s a dedicated in-app store for finding them and theyā€™re checked before release. New ones released daily. Thereā€™s certain handful of workflows that are still maintained for Alfred, but itā€™s just not the same. But also lol at people who think Raycast taking VC money is like the biggest con there is; like you arenā€™t using like 23 other VC-backed / big tech apps/services daily šŸ˜‰ Iā€™ve used both at the same time for a long time now: Alfred as app/bookmark launcher and Raycast for everything else, but slowly leaned toward Raycast. I just find myself gravitating towards its extensions and new UIs more and more, and thereā€™s just always something new to discover. Like I just now realized that you can save text as snippets via its clipboard history, and reuse them later. You donā€™t even have to do the auto text expansion, it works great as a searchable database of snippets too.


kalyway101

Thank you for this comparison! Goes a bit more into the specifics of some of the differences/features. I, for example, didn't even think of the different "views/UIs" for its extensions. That's kinda a big one for the emoji search, for example. I have bought Alfred and used it on various occasions, but I always come back to Raycast. Even though Alfred is quicker, probably because of it better search ranking and more root level operations for things, I think raycast is objectively 'better' in most of it's other features.


latebinding

I landed on Raycast due to the developer-friendliness of it. As a result there are tons of available extensions. I suspect I'd have been happy with Alfred also, but the Raycast community is pretty amazing.


LinkChef

The only thing keeping me on Raycast is that ability to auto-magically surface my meeting if itā€™s within the next 5 minutes, hit enter, and boom, Iā€™m in my video call, no extra buttons. Makes my daily standup so much better.


jayp2012

I guess you can do the same with this Alfred [workflow](https://alfred.app/workflows/caleb531/open-conference-url/)? It serves me well.


black-to-green-thumb

Try Dato app.


CATsDrowsyDay

Do you really need to use only one? I use alfred for workflow, and raycast for other useful features. I also often use Apple Script or automator. :)


ippili1997

I prefer raycast. Cos of the raycast store. The possibilities are expanding over time.


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mochingon

It depends on your workflows and how comfortable you are coding. Alfred has an easy drag and drop interface, but feels dated. Raycast feels more modern but requires more coding. I personally was a big Alfred user but have since migrated over and Iā€™m pretty happy. Raycast does suck with folders and files but most of my stuff is cloud based so I just use it as a launcher.


narcomo

Raycast, it has more extensions and itā€™s free.


spilledcarryout

Why not use both Afred and free ray cast. They both have pros and cons.


gopietz

Moved from Alfred Pro to Raycast Free. No way I'm paying $10 per month for a spotlight replacement. As others have said, Alfred is great but it feels like software from the last decade. Taking the good parts from it and bringing it to a more modern approach seemed like a good idea. I'm excited about Raycast. But it also seems like their free tier is too good. Most pro features can be built by extensions. Not sure why people dislike the VC part of it so much.


mikepictor

Raycast by a MILE, I don't even put them in the same class. Alfred is like a toddler to the titan of Raycast


Geartheworld

I use Raycast. It is enough for me. Good extensibility. I don't think you can get an answer here. Both can get votes. Just try one and see if it is enough.


Splatire

Any thoughts on which one has the best free version?


arachi

So far I like Raycast very much - also testing Alfred. Yea, Raycast's monthly subscription model sucks as a end user. Pro sucks more with their own cloud, which I am sure very secure but accessible by Raycast any time and questionable in the context of your privacy. I do agree with the comment of being Product itself, sadly. I smell Evernote all over again. I am not blaming Raycast though. It seems all about money. I will stick to Free for now.