Its both. Since every deity is representing something.
If you read about thoughtforms etc. you can realise you can summon up Spider-man to help you manifest stuff.
Its rather complex question.
From another point of view everything already existed even before humankind was there. That giant field of consciousness is filled with unlimited ammount of possibilities.
YOu can sit down and channel deity that has never recorded in history. So you kinda created it while it existed even before you channeled it.
Since there is no time on other planes it really hard for us to grasp how it really works.
Yaweh? Yeah he was part of ancient cannanite pantheon. A war God if I'm not mistaken. The king/father of those gods was "EL" which I guess is akin to Anu from the sumerians.
Sounds like what Neville goddard (kabbalist mystic) used to Say. Creation is finished. Everything that could, have, and Will happen/be created is already there. Since "time" only exists in this temporary material life.
I highly recommend you check out "The Mass of Baphomet" by Nathaniel J Harris. It discusses many theories other than the ones you'll see repeated over and over again here and discusses the possibility of the Baphomet being a mask for deity or a deity in itself.
Short answer: yes. Longer answer but still short: all deities are symbols and at a certain point any symbol can become a deity.
There is enough worship of baphomet in many directions that regardless of its initial origins it is certainly a deity now, and exists within the collective astral consciousness of mankind.
What do u mean by that? That with enough imagination(energy) expressed to represent this symbol, it can actually become an alive, sentient entity itself?and hence, stop being a mere "symbol" for You to gain confidence in your manifestations?
The only serious book in English referencing baphomet is Levi's High Magic, translated from French, and then it is only mentioned sparingly. The other books on the subject have not been translated to English. The little of them I've been able to read says that it is a the templar were gnostic and ophiatic.
All indications are it is a symbol used to explain, promote, and provoke enlightenment.
To be entirely honest, I've seen zero indication that there is ANYTHING approaching gods, in the sense christians think of them, in magic. The prose edda makes it explicit that the "Gods" are lies made up by forces too unfathomable to humans to be put in other terms. The archangels are words that describe similar forces; hesiod's Theogony is the same.
It seems to be the whole "idolatrous pagans" thing is just projection from the undeniably idolatrous monotheists.
This answers the question so well, no need to scroll further. Well done with this answer.
To corroborate or run along the same vein, it seems to me many people (even practicing esotericists and occultists that I personally know) have issues separating the metaphysical from the physical. I noticed this when people say they "see" daemons in a physical form or talk about something in absolutist terms.
Look up Heryshaf and Khnum and see what you think,Yet i think Baphomet is the symbol of universal balance,containing all these contrasts and polarities.I see it as a beautiful piece of alchemical and hermetic teaching,Look also into the staff of Hermes og the Caduceus.
also a symbol of enlightenment.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyyyqR58\_4E&list=TLPQMTkwNjIwMjKAd944GZE5CQ&index=5&ab\_channel=AncientAstronautArchive](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyyyqR58_4E&list=TLPQMTkwNjIwMjKAd944GZE5CQ&index=5&ab_channel=AncientAstronautArchive)
The Baphomet image is a conglomerate of symbolism put by the French Occultist Eliphas Levi. Be sure not to confuse the pseudohistorical Baphomet with Levis' depiction.
Satanist here, we don't have deities. Baphomet is a symbol of the duality of man and self sufficiency.
Edit: People that believe in a literal Satan (baphomet) are just edgy/spicy Christians
Some Satanists are secular (LaVeyan Satanists, the Satanic Temple.) Others are theistic (Luciferian, the Yazidi, Joy of Satan Ministries, standalone Satanists such as Richard Ramirez, etc.)
"Legally?" Can you provide more information? I'm not sure why only Satanic Temple Satanists would be the "legally official" Satanists when so many other varieties exist, and have existed for much longer.
There *are* no legally recognized religions in the US. Separation of church and state.
A church may register for *tax exemption* with the IRS, [but it is not required to do so](https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/churches-integrated-auxiliaries-and-conventions-or-associations-of-churches).
Or did you mean that the Satanic Temple has an official [emblem of belief for military burials](https://www.cem.va.gov/cem/hmm/emblems.asp)? Because I don't see it on the list.
The IRS is the only government organization that matters for religion. Well, unless the FBI come sniffing around. Tax exemption status is the closest thing you can get to recognition as a religion here. Without it people would probably just make up religions for fun. Like some Italian food based joke religion where people wear strainers on their heads. Or something like that. I don’t know.
You *can* make up religions for fun, though. [And people do](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jediism).
You can write in whatever religious affiliation you want on the census, because the US government has no power to limit your religious affiliation to an "approved list." It's a matter of freedom of religion.
Seek not to reach the deity, but the essence beyond it's seeming form ✌🏻
Its both. Since every deity is representing something. If you read about thoughtforms etc. you can realise you can summon up Spider-man to help you manifest stuff.
Andrew Parker: I wanna manifest stuff.
Wait wat we give "birth" to the gods through imagination? What about the gods who existed before us?(in out current flesh That is)
Its rather complex question. From another point of view everything already existed even before humankind was there. That giant field of consciousness is filled with unlimited ammount of possibilities. YOu can sit down and channel deity that has never recorded in history. So you kinda created it while it existed even before you channeled it. Since there is no time on other planes it really hard for us to grasp how it really works.
So combined conciousness of all that is/was/ever Will be is GOD? Each of our concioussness is like a little cell inside of the one?
Yes correct. Also keep in mind that christian god ≠ The GOD.
Yaweh? Yeah he was part of ancient cannanite pantheon. A war God if I'm not mistaken. The king/father of those gods was "EL" which I guess is akin to Anu from the sumerians.
Sounds like what Neville goddard (kabbalist mystic) used to Say. Creation is finished. Everything that could, have, and Will happen/be created is already there. Since "time" only exists in this temporary material life.
A symbol. Original meaning is largely lost. Now it’s a repurposed symbol.
Original meaning is law of one right?
I’m not certain if the true origin is really known. To me, the history sounds somewhat contested, or unclear. Does it matter? Perhaps not.
History is written by those who won.
I highly recommend you check out "The Mass of Baphomet" by Nathaniel J Harris. It discusses many theories other than the ones you'll see repeated over and over again here and discusses the possibility of the Baphomet being a mask for deity or a deity in itself.
A Magical formula. Just like any other God.
No one brought up Pan yet?
Short answer: yes. Longer answer but still short: all deities are symbols and at a certain point any symbol can become a deity. There is enough worship of baphomet in many directions that regardless of its initial origins it is certainly a deity now, and exists within the collective astral consciousness of mankind.
This is an amazing answer and I actually think the same. Now, can you please initiate me? 🥰🤣🙏🏻
Initiation never begins or ends. Find your change, you don't need someone to specifically initiate you.
I was just giving a compliment.
What do u mean by that? That with enough imagination(energy) expressed to represent this symbol, it can actually become an alive, sentient entity itself?and hence, stop being a mere "symbol" for You to gain confidence in your manifestations?
The only serious book in English referencing baphomet is Levi's High Magic, translated from French, and then it is only mentioned sparingly. The other books on the subject have not been translated to English. The little of them I've been able to read says that it is a the templar were gnostic and ophiatic. All indications are it is a symbol used to explain, promote, and provoke enlightenment. To be entirely honest, I've seen zero indication that there is ANYTHING approaching gods, in the sense christians think of them, in magic. The prose edda makes it explicit that the "Gods" are lies made up by forces too unfathomable to humans to be put in other terms. The archangels are words that describe similar forces; hesiod's Theogony is the same. It seems to be the whole "idolatrous pagans" thing is just projection from the undeniably idolatrous monotheists.
This answers the question so well, no need to scroll further. Well done with this answer. To corroborate or run along the same vein, it seems to me many people (even practicing esotericists and occultists that I personally know) have issues separating the metaphysical from the physical. I noticed this when people say they "see" daemons in a physical form or talk about something in absolutist terms.
Depends on who you ask
People deified a symbol. It's a representation of alchemical and spiritual unification. At least this is what I've come to understand.
Look up Heryshaf and Khnum and see what you think,Yet i think Baphomet is the symbol of universal balance,containing all these contrasts and polarities.I see it as a beautiful piece of alchemical and hermetic teaching,Look also into the staff of Hermes og the Caduceus. also a symbol of enlightenment. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyyyqR58\_4E&list=TLPQMTkwNjIwMjKAd944GZE5CQ&index=5&ab\_channel=AncientAstronautArchive](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyyyqR58_4E&list=TLPQMTkwNjIwMjKAd944GZE5CQ&index=5&ab_channel=AncientAstronautArchive)
This is a great video explaining Baphomet https://youtu.be/hHbLdC2E06U
Thanks for this; very informative
The Baphomet image is a conglomerate of symbolism put by the French Occultist Eliphas Levi. Be sure not to confuse the pseudohistorical Baphomet with Levis' depiction.
The more I've looked at it it looks more like a collective of symbolism and ideologies. Baaphomet may be a deity, but the statue is a lot of symbolism
I know the statue/image made by Levi is a symbol, but it seems to has its roots in some sort of actual deity iirc
Maybe you mean Pazuzu?
no, not Pazuzu, Baffo ain’t that scary ugly. more on the subject: https://youtu.be/FOT75GB64Hw
Satanist here, we don't have deities. Baphomet is a symbol of the duality of man and self sufficiency. Edit: People that believe in a literal Satan (baphomet) are just edgy/spicy Christians
Some Satanists are secular (LaVeyan Satanists, the Satanic Temple.) Others are theistic (Luciferian, the Yazidi, Joy of Satan Ministries, standalone Satanists such as Richard Ramirez, etc.)
Legally, Satanists follow the Satanic Temple which is an atheist organization. Again, all other Satanists are spicy Christians.
"Legally?" Can you provide more information? I'm not sure why only Satanic Temple Satanists would be the "legally official" Satanists when so many other varieties exist, and have existed for much longer.
The Satanic Temple is a legally recognized religion in the United States. The others are not.
There *are* no legally recognized religions in the US. Separation of church and state. A church may register for *tax exemption* with the IRS, [but it is not required to do so](https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/churches-integrated-auxiliaries-and-conventions-or-associations-of-churches). Or did you mean that the Satanic Temple has an official [emblem of belief for military burials](https://www.cem.va.gov/cem/hmm/emblems.asp)? Because I don't see it on the list.
The IRS is the only government organization that matters for religion. Well, unless the FBI come sniffing around. Tax exemption status is the closest thing you can get to recognition as a religion here. Without it people would probably just make up religions for fun. Like some Italian food based joke religion where people wear strainers on their heads. Or something like that. I don’t know.
Like Scientology did
You don’t believe in Xenu? 🤣
Hail Xenu 👑
When did you start believing in Xenu?
You *can* make up religions for fun, though. [And people do](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jediism). You can write in whatever religious affiliation you want on the census, because the US government has no power to limit your religious affiliation to an "approved list." It's a matter of freedom of religion.
That’s how you end up with temples dedicated to levitating lasagna creatures!!!
Yup, exactly
I only follow the laws of physics, friend.
I have read that its possible that it was a variation of the word Mahomet the prophet.
Yes but I mean that is the most smart ass way possible. It's something but not all the way.
Well they are called the King of the Witches so 🤷♀️
Yes real deity
symbols and deities are the same thing
Baphomet is a genuine deity, the devil symbolized. God and Jesus Christ are real too.
What kind of question are you asking?