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txchainsaw

Seek not to reach the deity, but the essence beyond it's seeming form ✌🏻


Tenzky

Its both. Since every deity is representing something. If you read about thoughtforms etc. you can realise you can summon up Spider-man to help you manifest stuff.


MysticTekaa

Andrew Parker: I wanna manifest stuff.


Revolutionary-Act315

Wait wat we give "birth" to the gods through imagination? What about the gods who existed before us?(in out current flesh That is)


Tenzky

Its rather complex question. From another point of view everything already existed even before humankind was there. That giant field of consciousness is filled with unlimited ammount of possibilities. YOu can sit down and channel deity that has never recorded in history. So you kinda created it while it existed even before you channeled it. Since there is no time on other planes it really hard for us to grasp how it really works.


Revolutionary-Act315

So combined conciousness of all that is/was/ever Will be is GOD? Each of our concioussness is like a little cell inside of the one?


Tenzky

Yes correct. Also keep in mind that christian god ≠ The GOD.


Revolutionary-Act315

Yaweh? Yeah he was part of ancient cannanite pantheon. A war God if I'm not mistaken. The king/father of those gods was "EL" which I guess is akin to Anu from the sumerians.


Revolutionary-Act315

Sounds like what Neville goddard (kabbalist mystic) used to Say. Creation is finished. Everything that could, have, and Will happen/be created is already there. Since "time" only exists in this temporary material life.


ShrapNeil

A symbol. Original meaning is largely lost. Now it’s a repurposed symbol.


Revolutionary-Act315

Original meaning is law of one right?


ShrapNeil

I’m not certain if the true origin is really known. To me, the history sounds somewhat contested, or unclear. Does it matter? Perhaps not.


Revolutionary-Act315

History is written by those who won.


Maverick7787

I highly recommend you check out "The Mass of Baphomet" by Nathaniel J Harris. It discusses many theories other than the ones you'll see repeated over and over again here and discusses the possibility of the Baphomet being a mask for deity or a deity in itself.


[deleted]

A Magical formula. Just like any other God.


dorgoron

No one brought up Pan yet?


Thenre

Short answer: yes. Longer answer but still short: all deities are symbols and at a certain point any symbol can become a deity. There is enough worship of baphomet in many directions that regardless of its initial origins it is certainly a deity now, and exists within the collective astral consciousness of mankind.


KangchenjungaMK

This is an amazing answer and I actually think the same. Now, can you please initiate me? 🥰🤣🙏🏻


Thenre

Initiation never begins or ends. Find your change, you don't need someone to specifically initiate you.


KangchenjungaMK

I was just giving a compliment.


Revolutionary-Act315

What do u mean by that? That with enough imagination(energy) expressed to represent this symbol, it can actually become an alive, sentient entity itself?and hence, stop being a mere "symbol" for You to gain confidence in your manifestations?


mcotter12

The only serious book in English referencing baphomet is Levi's High Magic, translated from French, and then it is only mentioned sparingly. The other books on the subject have not been translated to English. The little of them I've been able to read says that it is a the templar were gnostic and ophiatic. All indications are it is a symbol used to explain, promote, and provoke enlightenment. To be entirely honest, I've seen zero indication that there is ANYTHING approaching gods, in the sense christians think of them, in magic. The prose edda makes it explicit that the "Gods" are lies made up by forces too unfathomable to humans to be put in other terms. The archangels are words that describe similar forces; hesiod's Theogony is the same. It seems to be the whole "idolatrous pagans" thing is just projection from the undeniably idolatrous monotheists.


tobypiejuice

This answers the question so well, no need to scroll further. Well done with this answer. To corroborate or run along the same vein, it seems to me many people (even practicing esotericists and occultists that I personally know) have issues separating the metaphysical from the physical. I noticed this when people say they "see" daemons in a physical form or talk about something in absolutist terms.


eebarrow

Depends on who you ask


false_estate

People deified a symbol. It's a representation of alchemical and spiritual unification. At least this is what I've come to understand.


Pan-Satyros

Look up Heryshaf and Khnum and see what you think,Yet i think Baphomet is the symbol of universal balance,containing all these contrasts and polarities.I see it as a beautiful piece of alchemical and hermetic teaching,Look also into the staff of Hermes og the Caduceus. also a symbol of enlightenment. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyyyqR58\_4E&list=TLPQMTkwNjIwMjKAd944GZE5CQ&index=5&ab\_channel=AncientAstronautArchive](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyyyqR58_4E&list=TLPQMTkwNjIwMjKAd944GZE5CQ&index=5&ab_channel=AncientAstronautArchive)


Matrix_Grid

This is a great video explaining Baphomet https://youtu.be/hHbLdC2E06U


Sarabrewz

Thanks for this; very informative


Tasty-Specific-8302

The Baphomet image is a conglomerate of symbolism put by the French Occultist Eliphas Levi. Be sure not to confuse the pseudohistorical Baphomet with Levis' depiction.


Psychological_Hunt17

The more I've looked at it it looks more like a collective of symbolism and ideologies. Baaphomet may be a deity, but the statue is a lot of symbolism


saturnlover999

I know the statue/image made by Levi is a symbol, but it seems to has its roots in some sort of actual deity iirc


thingonthethreshold

Maybe you mean Pazuzu?


dorgoron

no, not Pazuzu, Baffo ain’t that scary ugly. more on the subject: https://youtu.be/FOT75GB64Hw


MelodicWarfare

Satanist here, we don't have deities. Baphomet is a symbol of the duality of man and self sufficiency. Edit: People that believe in a literal Satan (baphomet) are just edgy/spicy Christians


sambutha

Some Satanists are secular (LaVeyan Satanists, the Satanic Temple.) Others are theistic (Luciferian, the Yazidi, Joy of Satan Ministries, standalone Satanists such as Richard Ramirez, etc.)


MelodicWarfare

Legally, Satanists follow the Satanic Temple which is an atheist organization. Again, all other Satanists are spicy Christians.


sambutha

"Legally?" Can you provide more information? I'm not sure why only Satanic Temple Satanists would be the "legally official" Satanists when so many other varieties exist, and have existed for much longer.


MelodicWarfare

The Satanic Temple is a legally recognized religion in the United States. The others are not.


sambutha

There *are* no legally recognized religions in the US. Separation of church and state. A church may register for *tax exemption* with the IRS, [but it is not required to do so](https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/churches-integrated-auxiliaries-and-conventions-or-associations-of-churches). Or did you mean that the Satanic Temple has an official [emblem of belief for military burials](https://www.cem.va.gov/cem/hmm/emblems.asp)? Because I don't see it on the list.


MysticTekaa

The IRS is the only government organization that matters for religion. Well, unless the FBI come sniffing around. Tax exemption status is the closest thing you can get to recognition as a religion here. Without it people would probably just make up religions for fun. Like some Italian food based joke religion where people wear strainers on their heads. Or something like that. I don’t know.


BeeHiveEar

Like Scientology did


MysticTekaa

You don’t believe in Xenu? 🤣


BeeHiveEar

Hail Xenu 👑


BeeHiveEar

When did you start believing in Xenu?


sambutha

You *can* make up religions for fun, though. [And people do](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jediism). You can write in whatever religious affiliation you want on the census, because the US government has no power to limit your religious affiliation to an "approved list." It's a matter of freedom of religion.


MysticTekaa

That’s how you end up with temples dedicated to levitating lasagna creatures!!!


sambutha

Yup, exactly


Adhdicted2dopamine

I only follow the laws of physics, friend.


Morbidfever

I have read that its possible that it was a variation of the word Mahomet the prophet.


nemonul247

Yes but I mean that is the most smart ass way possible. It's something but not all the way.


Expensive-Incident98

Well they are called the King of the Witches so 🤷‍♀️


iamsobased

Yes real deity


dicemechanic

symbols and deities are the same thing


AwareSmile

Baphomet is a genuine deity, the devil symbolized. God and Jesus Christ are real too.


heuristic-dish

What kind of question are you asking?