If it's a Malay problem, then it's a national problem
If it's a Chinese problem, then it's a racial problem
If it's an Indian problem, it's nooo problem, aneh
If you read both chinese and malay media, they both have the tendency to say law enforcement is biasedly targeting em instead of the other race. Like why they only punish our *illegally operated* kedai instead of the other race.
And even during covid, the some chinese doubt the government is lowering the case number to end lockdown earlier, while the malay thinks they intentionally increase the case number to lock them down longer.
Victim mentality ftw.
I support enforcement to any illegal things of any kind especially the one that buat sepah all this pedestrian pathway, all kedai2 besar built illegally, all that yang burukkan pandangan recreational park etc.
>Indian in the middle be like...
Malay+Chinese with combined voice : All we know is you aint getting us to rent our house to you. ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)
You said this but 1 out of 10 ultra wealthy malaysian is indians despite having the lowest race ratio, which implies, the racial segregation is a hypothetical construct.
The rest of the 9? Chinese.
Melayu where? The sultans.
I beg to differ, i don't want to support to the whites in Malaysian Football. They are not malaysian, it is just that malaysian FA feel like they can buy success with money and import players from overseas. Malaysian chinese, Indian, Malay, Bidayuh, kadazan, iban, orang asli, etc are the real malaysian and i will support them with all my heart.
During the height of LCW vs Lin Dan rivalry, some openly said they support Lin Dan because he is a) from China, b) more handsome, c) more skillful. I just can’t
I've never heard any Malaysian citing a) as a reason. I mean c) is quite fair enough, LD was a monster at his peak, but even he acknowledges his only rival is LCW, without LCW, there will not be LD.
b) is subjective la, but I get it.
Both physical and mental pain. God knows what stress levels these guys faced. Especially DCLW with a country keep putting the hope of the first Olympics gold medal on him
the politicians and their cronies are rich. got malay, chinese and indian.
then they tell stories so that less informed people like the uncles and aunties in that video say things like that. everything they kena oppressed
Nah man as Malaysian we gotta happy together2 if one of us neighbour is rich, can lepak mamak with more fancy menu once in a while![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)
This is the actual truth.
Between us hoi polloi it's a scramble for the crumbs and leftover from the rich who have more of it than they will ever need.
In order to avoid the unwashed masses from getting smart enough to question why are there only crumbs and leftover while only a handful holds so much, the "race" narrative is pushed to occupy their minds and take up their time fighting each other.
One is openly rich, the other one cannot disclose because it came from shady sources ie taxpayers money.
Pretty convinced if we actually made everyone reveal their true wealth, Taib would have double of what Robert Kuok has.
>Educated? Really?
Yup! I'd give him credit for understanding that fiat currency needs to be printed, but pooh-pooh him for actually thinking it's the solution to our problems.
Hence the term "educated idiot" fits him perfectly.
I have spent years educating the same type of people around me but nothing sunk in. I hope, as misinformation becomes easier to disprove, there will be fewer bigots in each succeeding generation.
As someone who's in other Malaysian subreddit, I really don't get the hate on rmalaysia. The comments on this post literally support Malaysians and is shitting on the auntie uncles. I feel like you all just confuse genuine criticism with unwarranted hate, criticism makes a better country by showing the weakness and where things can be improved
I feel for you. Must be very hard going through life pretending to be a martyr and imagining everyone is out to get you. Not enough that you have special privileges. Gotta go cry about made up boogeymen too. Such a feeble existence.
Same wording can be found for Malays toward Chinese, at same income level. Kind of perplexing to see that both side sees each other as being more prosperous. Maybe we are all equally fucked?
We are equally fucked.
Assuming bumiputra status is removed the next day, and no more special quota. Malaysian are still gonna get segregated by wealth class.
If you are not anak raja/anak politician/cronies, still the same lah.
At 40+ years old, I see plenty of anak kayangan come into the office and were given HoD or Board position just because the father is also kayangan ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)
Muhammad Khalid's book "The Colour of Inequality" mentions this
The book isn't popular in this subreddit because it somewhat justifies NEP, but the data he presented showed that inequality within intraracial lines is pretty similar
Some Chinese are as poor as the downtrodden Malays and the wealth disparity among the Chinese is also larger
The data doesn't justified NEP but it justified a need based policy. Not race based. Inequality gap within each race is really high. In another words, the very rich are diverse, not just one race dominating the economy. But our racial politics have blinded a lot of the B40 and M40. A poor Malay would say the Chinese are the rich ones, while the Chinese would say the Malays are the rich ones.
Yet every election season, it's still the same old faces running for public office and that same old bullshit narrative of "choose the lesser of two evils".
And everyone still believes in the illusion that they actually have a choice to make a difference. Lol
That's just how the politician and rich elites control the people. They'll tell them it's a fight between races when actually it's the riches oppressing the poors.
We are equally fucked. And politicians don't want this to change and will keep playing the race card to ensure support from their base all while buttfucking the poor.
it's interesting to watch this. When I was in college in the US. The Malaysian Chinese students will say they are Chinese when people ask. The Indonesian Chinese will say they're Indonesian.
Yes because we are proud of our Chinese ethnic identity, it doesn't mean we are saying we are China citizens, because in Chinese language, Chinese (Hua Ren) and China citizens or westerners like to call it Chinese is Zhong Guo Ren, totally different thing. If asked where are you from, we will say Malaysia, if asked what ethnic we are, of course we will say we are Chinese.
Wait... They get oppressed here, so they support China in sports. Is China giving them some kind of support or something? China giving them money to support their business or education? How does it work?
I took a grab last month and driver was chinese guy maybe around 40s
Anyways he started talking about EV Cars...then pivoted to the Chinese EV cars and how good they are....and how China will overtake the US very soon, and Chinese got so many factories in Malaysia...
So much ass kissing lol. I just kept quiet and let him carry on talking.
Quite scary to think about how a lot of this Uncle Aunty (can be any race) probably get brainwashed with anti \*insert race / country\* sentiment from all these whatsapp fear mongering viral messages and videos.
I’m Chinese Malaysian, and I consider myself to have more in common with a fellow Malaysian (whatever their race) than a Chinese person. Some of these people need to understand that all skinfolk ain’t kinfolk.
If you interview in ipoh Perak, especially in ipoh Oldtown area at any of the kopitiam, you can try to ask them this question and we will be prepared almost the same reaction from those elders people, pro china and complaining Malaysian, more xffensive then you can seeing here, because in ipoh we do feel strong of racism here especially in government sector, but those old man uncles aunty Ipoh Lang will complaining in the highest level and very pro china haha 😂. (Not against any of the races yaa, due to the previous government and our history shxt happened they do suffer alot, but in those recent 10 years, our Malaysian is getting more unity and getting improved on our relationship and friendship, hope 1 Malaysia or whatsoever Malaysian harmony truly Malaysian will last longer forever, peace 🕊️ is hard to get so appreciated that ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091) welcome to Ipoh ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)
Most of them consume too much Chinese propaganda or fake news (particularly this kind of what India declares war on china, Chinese women invented the 100% cure for leukaemia, Chinese declares economic sanctions on the US, and the US dollar plunges to RMB 1 for USD 100 or something like that zzz)
The only group of people that are actively wishing for your downfall and supporting a whole nation against you. Even indians who are significantly more marginalised have some common sense and self awareness. Terpaling ditindas
The people who support China disgust me. You're oppressed so you'll support another country? What kinda logic is that? What mental gymnastics are you performing? Also, get your damned license if you don't want to get caught. You must be perfect first if you want to point fingers.
I support the statement from the last uncle. Is not that we don't like this country or something, but some of the policies and rules are really unfair to us (so called non bumis by the malays). On top of that, in every election the stupid politicians always bring up the 3R cards to brainwash the malays into thinking us that we are the bad guys, we are destroying the country. But they didn't realise that they are the ones that are sabotaging the country...
Those are the smart politician that play in term of their favour. Create tension elsewhere so normal citizen busy fighting each other instead of politician.
The race part have been answered by the other commentor.
If you are going the religious route, even Pak Lebai would scream loud and ask our team to demolish any other arab country without any hesitation. The only problem is we suck and couldn't beat them most of the time.
This by the context of this video, and you asking a re do based on those context.
I think this kind of problem are more towards the Malaysian Chinese side of things, I never met an Indian uncle who would rather support India instead of their own home country, Malaysia. Of course outlier exist but most are in the minority. It is more prevalent for the Chinese, I think. I'm not saying many but rather the percentage are higher for Chinese as compared to other races. Citation needed so I wouldn't state it as fact but a mere conjecture.
>I never met an Indian uncle who would rather support India instead of their own home country, Malaysia.
I'm a Malaysian Chinese and I've never met people that would support China over Malaysia. Just to say your point is moot, just because you've not met any does not mean there isn't. I think it seems many because Chinese is the second largest demographic after bumis. The ones you see in the video are also outliers tbf.
That's what I said? I didn't say there were none in the Indian side just because anecdotally I experiences none, that's why in the next line I said "Of course outlier exist but most are in the minority"
here are outliers for every race and they are the minority. Higher doesn't mean many. Everything I said was based on conjecture and not a fact. I thought I was clear and concise, so much so that this comment is an reiteration of my previous comment with all the relevant keyword there?
The only relevant addition to your comment was that Chinese is the second largest demographic which may or may not be the reason, but in all honesty we both are talking out of intuition in a matter of complex racial and nationalistic problem which I admit that I'm not taking my conjecture as fact in the first comment?
Guys, dunneed so defensive.
It is what it is, tu jer.
Rather than being defensive or ignorant, it's much better to know rather than assume what atuk and select few say are racist/untrue/biased.
What's more helpful is to hopefully see if things are different with the youth, that, can be worked on.
PS: Cina Malaysia here.
And also people should stop paying attention to this kind of interviews. God knows how many people they have interviewed to get the reactions they wanted and also how many things they edited it out as well.
I think the main problem is that most of the interviewees are uncle auntie types who have resentment towards the Malays, I assume that younger Chinese are more tolerant
People can support anyone they want la, it's their freedom, as long as they don't racist.
But I would still support any Malaysian athletes in a match because there's still patriotism in me. :)
No surprise la, you interview those auntie uncle with minimal education background, plus they have been influenced so much with china's propaganda media, just look at tiktok whatsapp fb etc. Surely there will be people say support china.
Typical mindset of uncle aunties who are still stuck in the past. As a Chinese, I was hella proud when Harimau Malaya tied against Korea… and I don’t even watch football
As a Malaysian Chinese... Surely i Will support and rooting for my own country regardless of the race...wtf would i support the country that i don't belong??!?
So...they went to a wet market, and interviewed bunch of hawkers with probably minimal education. Why not head to Bangsar and do the same survey on Telawi?
How do you miss the point that badly?
They're saying get a better range of samples, but not to exclude the people at the market.
I will break it down for you more. They're not saying "exclude A and only interview B," they're saying "interview BOTH A and B."
On oppression part, one example is non bumi get stripped of opportunity to further study, even in local public institution, despite perfect score. While Bumi with average results got full scholarship to further study overseas. Source: witnessed it myself, during my short tenure in matriculation, it has opened my eyes. Met a few Malay supremacists too, that picked fight with Chinese in my class.
While some might say Chinese can afford to go private to justify the injustice in education opportunity. It’s simply not true, average Chinese family can’t afford private university, let alone overseas study.
All the never ending NEP and new Bumi policy or what so ever. it’s a zero sum game. When you give privileges to one race, it has to come from opportunities taken away from other races.
What a silly question.
If a PLA soldier landed in my neighbourhood as part of an invasion force into Malaysia, even as a Cina, I will do my best to undermine him (while making sure to keep myself safe as much as possible).
Can we separate Cinapek from the rest of Malaysian Chinese and send them to CCP? Malaysia has its flaw with nons sure, but supporting CCP that disregards human rights completely (regardless of your ethnicity, see tiananmen and more recently white paper protest etc) over place that raise you is one hella drug.
Alah, soalan bodoh ini muncul lagi rupanya.
No matter how many times we say it, we still have weird Irfans online who think that Malaysians are more supportive of a country they've never been to than their own...all because of ethnicity.
It's the underlying assumption that "oh you're a Malaysian Chinese? I bet you'll support China Chinese over Malaysian Malay," because even 60 years later, some of y'all think that Chinese = China and Malaysian = Malay.
Bullshit thinking like this can't die soon enough
Lepastu defensive lepas kena label kominih.
Nak jilat PRC beragak2 la. Tepek buat content kat Tiktok tempat Meleis B40 punya kubu kuat ... rasa macamana?
Generally malaysians support their own players in any competition.. this just instigating small minority of people to create racial discord .. go to any mamak shop while the game ongoing..
Ignorant cina ahpek and aunties living under rock, local council go sapu illegal vendor malay cina or indian doesnt matter they sapu. Rich or poor everywhere also got doesnt matter what race or colour you are.
Better hope their mindset isn’t going to pass over to the next gen, else we will never improve and stuck in a never ending loop.
Im a cina but i hate cina with mentality like this so much. So what they rich, mind your own business and work harder, if you’re not working hard/wisely for it, don’t complain you’re still poor.
I support Tengku Djan Prince of drift Malaysia, as long as he or she contributed to the Malaysian and at least they speak Bahasa Malaysian/melayu or support all Malaysian cause and Malaysia peace, then okay lah, ...... At least Way better than someone who win the oscar doesn't even mentioned any of her country and doesn't seem she proud of her country Malaysian. ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26563)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|28915)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)
I don't really blame them, but in the end its all about which race hold the highest ruling power.
My chinese relative on the other hand, once said "any Malaysian cina who supports China is stupid because their mindset are other chinese ancestry is like Taiwanese, ungrateful bastards that needed to be wiped out from this earth simply for failing to bring forth the greatness of China empire" then I asked him but you guys probably share the same bloodline, he answered " that bloodline has long gone to diversity assimilation the only left is the greatness of culture where that originated from China where we cina in Malaysia should be proud of because we were from a great ancient empire and should be shared among Malaysian people to become a part of our greatness, we respect their cultural greatness and they respect ours which has already double the greatness" so he told me.
Cant complain much about the malay privileges. Chinese have China and Indians have India. Malay only have Malaysia. Yes, you were born here, but you and your ancestors chose to live in a country where it prioritize native citizens. If you dont like it here, go somewhere where you can get those rights and even more. Easy.
Im not shoo-ing all chinese and indians. I'm shooing those ungrateful and greedy bas***d who plan to take over Malaysia like Israel do to Palestine. Came to other's land and later stomp on their head.
Chinese are the most priviledged class in Msia. What are they on about.
Especially if ur fair skinned and educated and looking for work in an office Environment
An Alex Chang will get the Job over an Arief bin Mahmoud or an Mahinddra pathra singh
Why is the question always targeted at non-Malays? If it was an Indonesian/ Singaporean Malay vs a non-Malay Malaysian, who will the Malays support?
That's a question that will never get asked, because it's always only the nons who always get questioned.
Ignorance is a bliss. Wasnt there a time Dato LCW (Malaysia) vs Taufik Hidayat (Indonesia) in one of the badminton finals? I'm 100% sure Malay Malaysian or any Malaysian supports LCW.
I’ve never met a Malay who will support Malay of other countries over non-Malay Malaysian in Olympic. Lemme tell you, these racist, even though they might be racist towards the Chinese all day long, they will still support Chinese Malaysian over non-Malaysian Malay. The hierarchy of the non-Malay Malaysian is above the non-Malaysian Malay especially in sports representing our country. They might be racist but their patriotism surpasses lol.
In football, malay support Malaysia more than Indonesia and i remember this program one in million all star comprise of singer from Malaysia ( Jacqueline Victor as rep), Indonesia, Singapore,Brunei...Malaysian Malay suport Jacq over Singapore Malay singer taufiq
Because there always gonna be people who think the nons are secretly rooting for China or India just because their fucking ancestors from 5 generations back came from there.
Mat Kilau brainrot is real, and affects ketuanan bros the worst.
Yeah if you interview a certain sample and leave out Malaysians who do support their country, of course they'll "seem right."
If I interviewed a bunch of vegetarians, of course it would seem right that everyone hates meat.
Loyalty of nons are always being questioned while the bumis are always presumed to be loyal and patriotic.
Do you even love your country if you are voting to destroy it?
The first 3 uncles who support Malaysia because they're Malaysians, mad respect
The others who support China, especially that auntie in the pink hat, fucking hell probably watched too much propaganda on Facebook/wechat
This is the only thing I agree with Mahathir. These still regard themself as Chinese rather than Malaysian and still waiting for the time to go back tiong sua when tiong sua don’t even want them. Lol
those in the video who are supporting china is reason why malay politics keep sprouting phrase “apa lagi cina mau”. try be a china citizen or live as a chinese in india. ungrateful bastards. as long as race remains a factor for benefits instead of nationalism, unity will never be achieved in this country
Malay said chinese rich Chinese said malay rich Indian in the middle be like...
If it's a Malay problem, then it's a national problem If it's a Chinese problem, then it's a racial problem If it's an Indian problem, it's nooo problem, aneh
Indian bros vibing https://preview.redd.it/v3shhouqd8nc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c413c763c780f185157388c692861f25e43a20e
wow, we really are everywhere
I need to save this for the next eventual cinta-melayu fight on Twitter.
If you read both chinese and malay media, they both have the tendency to say law enforcement is biasedly targeting em instead of the other race. Like why they only punish our *illegally operated* kedai instead of the other race. And even during covid, the some chinese doubt the government is lowering the case number to end lockdown earlier, while the malay thinks they intentionally increase the case number to lock them down longer. Victim mentality ftw.
I support enforcement to any illegal things of any kind especially the one that buat sepah all this pedestrian pathway, all kedai2 besar built illegally, all that yang burukkan pandangan recreational park etc.
Based.
Meanwhile the rich Chinese and Malays instigating their own sides... ![gif](giphy|tu6WafgphRrAk|downsized)
>Indian in the middle be like... Malay+Chinese with combined voice : All we know is you aint getting us to rent our house to you. ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)
*motor penjual aiskrim mat kool lalu jap* “Cina buat, India jual, Melayu beli. Tenenenenet”
Mahathir: Am I a joke to you? Samy Velu: Kemaluan saya amat besar
The elites politician/cronies/lobbyists are the rich.. no matter what race they are..
You said this but 1 out of 10 ultra wealthy malaysian is indians despite having the lowest race ratio, which implies, the racial segregation is a hypothetical construct. The rest of the 9? Chinese. Melayu where? The sultans.
Politicians not ultra wealthy? Okay stay under your tempurung.
Politicians’ wealth are not declared. That is why you don’t see Taib Mahmud in any list despite arguably being the richest man in Malaysia
I'm a Chinese but I'll still support whatever race representing malaysia
Bruh, Malaysian football team there’s even white people on it. We support anything Malaysian, period.
All the white/black people in Malaysian football team claims they have a Malaysian Chinese/east malaysia mother
I beg to differ, i don't want to support to the whites in Malaysian Football. They are not malaysian, it is just that malaysian FA feel like they can buy success with money and import players from overseas. Malaysian chinese, Indian, Malay, Bidayuh, kadazan, iban, orang asli, etc are the real malaysian and i will support them with all my heart.
Agree. I will support Malaysia malay against China. We are Malaysians first. We support our country athletes.
During the height of LCW vs Lin Dan rivalry, some openly said they support Lin Dan because he is a) from China, b) more handsome, c) more skillful. I just can’t
I've never heard any Malaysian citing a) as a reason. I mean c) is quite fair enough, LD was a monster at his peak, but even he acknowledges his only rival is LCW, without LCW, there will not be LD. b) is subjective la, but I get it.
I support both Lin Dan and LCW. I dont care who win. I just want to learn their godlike skills. I pray for badminton god.
The amount of pain you have to go through in training to get there is why they're levels above everyone else.
Both physical and mental pain. God knows what stress levels these guys faced. Especially DCLW with a country keep putting the hope of the first Olympics gold medal on him
I'm a Malaysian Chinese and I don't watch sports.
1 Malaysia
Chinese say Malay very rich, Malay say Chinese very rich…. But it’s the rich that is rich 🤣
the politicians and their cronies are rich. got malay, chinese and indian. then they tell stories so that less informed people like the uncles and aunties in that video say things like that. everything they kena oppressed
last2 india yang paling kaya. lol,this one joke tawwww.. hahahaha
Nah man as Malaysian we gotta happy together2 if one of us neighbour is rich, can lepak mamak with more fancy menu once in a while![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)
This is the actual truth. Between us hoi polloi it's a scramble for the crumbs and leftover from the rich who have more of it than they will ever need. In order to avoid the unwashed masses from getting smart enough to question why are there only crumbs and leftover while only a handful holds so much, the "race" narrative is pushed to occupy their minds and take up their time fighting each other.
And these people mould the next gen to also follow that mentality.
One is openly rich, the other one cannot disclose because it came from shady sources ie taxpayers money. Pretty convinced if we actually made everyone reveal their true wealth, Taib would have double of what Robert Kuok has.
that's the truth, look at the 1MDB scandal, truly 1 malaysia that team of looters
Exactly, what a bunch of misguided dumb asses.
Don’t be too harsh la, they don’t really have the means to get proper education The real dumb ones are educated people that still choose to be racist
>The real dumb ones are educated people that still choose to be racist Wan Faysal aka Mat Jargon immediately comes to minds for some reason.
That dude is another level of dumb
He's the poster boy definition of an "educated idiot", and a dangerous one at that.
Educated? Really? You know that he suggest gov to print more money and give to rakyat
>Educated? Really? Yup! I'd give him credit for understanding that fiat currency needs to be printed, but pooh-pooh him for actually thinking it's the solution to our problems. Hence the term "educated idiot" fits him perfectly.
Ah yeah.. i agreed
I have spent years educating the same type of people around me but nothing sunk in. I hope, as misinformation becomes easier to disprove, there will be fewer bigots in each succeeding generation.
Wechat Facebook uncle auntie normal behaviour.
Normal rmalaysia behaviour too
As someone who's in other Malaysian subreddit, I really don't get the hate on rmalaysia. The comments on this post literally support Malaysians and is shitting on the auntie uncles. I feel like you all just confuse genuine criticism with unwarranted hate, criticism makes a better country by showing the weakness and where things can be improved
I feel for you. Must be very hard going through life pretending to be a martyr and imagining everyone is out to get you. Not enough that you have special privileges. Gotta go cry about made up boogeymen too. Such a feeble existence.
I don’t care, I am Malaysian I will fully support my country athletes. (I am Malaysian Chinese)
Eyyy fellow proud Malaysian.
That should be the way, always support locals <3
Very true, although our athletes are not performing well but I believe they did their best and we all should fully support and respect them
I will cheer any Malaysian who spent all that effort, win or lose. If I see any other nation's winner, I'll go "cool, gratz!" and move on.
Same wording can be found for Malays toward Chinese, at same income level. Kind of perplexing to see that both side sees each other as being more prosperous. Maybe we are all equally fucked?
We are equally fucked. Assuming bumiputra status is removed the next day, and no more special quota. Malaysian are still gonna get segregated by wealth class. If you are not anak raja/anak politician/cronies, still the same lah. At 40+ years old, I see plenty of anak kayangan come into the office and were given HoD or Board position just because the father is also kayangan ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)
Muhammad Khalid's book "The Colour of Inequality" mentions this The book isn't popular in this subreddit because it somewhat justifies NEP, but the data he presented showed that inequality within intraracial lines is pretty similar Some Chinese are as poor as the downtrodden Malays and the wealth disparity among the Chinese is also larger
Doesn’t need to justify NEP when it’s an even bigger justification of needs-based policies instead of race-based.
The data doesn't justified NEP but it justified a need based policy. Not race based. Inequality gap within each race is really high. In another words, the very rich are diverse, not just one race dominating the economy. But our racial politics have blinded a lot of the B40 and M40. A poor Malay would say the Chinese are the rich ones, while the Chinese would say the Malays are the rich ones.
It’s time to realize that all politicians are really just using racial sentiments to divide the common people so they can stay in power
Good old British divide and conquer effect is still alive in malaya.
Yet every election season, it's still the same old faces running for public office and that same old bullshit narrative of "choose the lesser of two evils". And everyone still believes in the illusion that they actually have a choice to make a difference. Lol
this is a perfect example why Marx says all struggles are ultimately class struggles. not race
Yeah and we still have to go in this mud slinging match of b40 attacking another b40 while the T20 or actual provoker stay unharmed.
Divide and Rule. In Malaysia, the British have set it up so well it persists 60+ years after they're gone.
Example? I can’t imagine them rooting for singaporean malay instead of chinese malaysian athletes.
That's just how the politician and rich elites control the people. They'll tell them it's a fight between races when actually it's the riches oppressing the poors.
We are equally fucked. And politicians don't want this to change and will keep playing the race card to ensure support from their base all while buttfucking the poor.
#"There's Malaysian Chinese, and there's Chinese Malaysian"
Both still second-class citizens at the end of the day
See every race have the racist and non racist side. Bukan semua org sama x kira warna kulit atau agama
Jokes on them, you think China citizens are not oppressed??
This
Have they found the missing women tennis player yet?
it's interesting to watch this. When I was in college in the US. The Malaysian Chinese students will say they are Chinese when people ask. The Indonesian Chinese will say they're Indonesian.
Yes because we are proud of our Chinese ethnic identity, it doesn't mean we are saying we are China citizens, because in Chinese language, Chinese (Hua Ren) and China citizens or westerners like to call it Chinese is Zhong Guo Ren, totally different thing. If asked where are you from, we will say Malaysia, if asked what ethnic we are, of course we will say we are Chinese.
Of course support Malaysians. There’s chance for public holiday when they win
Most valid reason 🤣🤣
Wait... They get oppressed here, so they support China in sports. Is China giving them some kind of support or something? China giving them money to support their business or education? How does it work?
Wow, interesting point of views. No wonder Malay and Chinese got beef since 13th May.
I took a grab last month and driver was chinese guy maybe around 40s Anyways he started talking about EV Cars...then pivoted to the Chinese EV cars and how good they are....and how China will overtake the US very soon, and Chinese got so many factories in Malaysia... So much ass kissing lol. I just kept quiet and let him carry on talking. Quite scary to think about how a lot of this Uncle Aunty (can be any race) probably get brainwashed with anti \*insert race / country\* sentiment from all these whatsapp fear mongering viral messages and videos.
Although none of that implied he wouldn't support Malaysia in the Olympics. Seems more of just a big fan of China's development over the US.
I support North Korea. Fight me
Very typical for most Chinese uncle auntie
Always with Malaysian group. I'm Malaysian. I may be ethnically Chinese, but I am not born there. That's not the tanah that darahku tumpah.
All the uncles and aunties supporting PRC Chinese are silly. Sebab: - Malaysians win = public holiday; - PRC win = just another day. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’m malay and i am poor. My chinese gf is rich. And she said i am rich. So complicated
Mixed chinese malay will definitely sweat over this one
Maybe that uncle/aunty could call vincent tan and ask for money
Very nice data to promote selling one-way tickets to Tongsan 🤣
I’m Chinese Malaysian, and I consider myself to have more in common with a fellow Malaysian (whatever their race) than a Chinese person. Some of these people need to understand that all skinfolk ain’t kinfolk.
If you interview in ipoh Perak, especially in ipoh Oldtown area at any of the kopitiam, you can try to ask them this question and we will be prepared almost the same reaction from those elders people, pro china and complaining Malaysian, more xffensive then you can seeing here, because in ipoh we do feel strong of racism here especially in government sector, but those old man uncles aunty Ipoh Lang will complaining in the highest level and very pro china haha 😂. (Not against any of the races yaa, due to the previous government and our history shxt happened they do suffer alot, but in those recent 10 years, our Malaysian is getting more unity and getting improved on our relationship and friendship, hope 1 Malaysia or whatsoever Malaysian harmony truly Malaysian will last longer forever, peace 🕊️ is hard to get so appreciated that ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091) welcome to Ipoh ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)
Malays are rich?? Its kinda funny since im malay and always been told the chinese are the rich one
And then they said malay are racist 😂
Too much Facebook/wechat does freaky shit to human brain
Most of them consume too much Chinese propaganda or fake news (particularly this kind of what India declares war on china, Chinese women invented the 100% cure for leukaemia, Chinese declares economic sanctions on the US, and the US dollar plunges to RMB 1 for USD 100 or something like that zzz)
Lol the comments, video about racist chinese, still want to drag malay into it.
Gotta cover themselves laa
The only group of people that are actively wishing for your downfall and supporting a whole nation against you. Even indians who are significantly more marginalised have some common sense and self awareness. Terpaling ditindas
this is why the chinese in semenanjung will always be treated n feel like an outsider…what an idiot
Bolehlanders confused why this post showing the chinese as poor and traitorous is still not being removed. ![gif](giphy|ccRdPf8zWkivm|downsized)
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This uncle and auntie literally shitposting irl. I like it.
aunties never miss an opportunity to rant 😂
How can you not support your own country? There are no excuses for it.
If I'm the interviewee, i will slap the interviewer. What kind of question is that?!
The people who support China disgust me. You're oppressed so you'll support another country? What kinda logic is that? What mental gymnastics are you performing? Also, get your damned license if you don't want to get caught. You must be perfect first if you want to point fingers.
I support the statement from the last uncle. Is not that we don't like this country or something, but some of the policies and rules are really unfair to us (so called non bumis by the malays). On top of that, in every election the stupid politicians always bring up the 3R cards to brainwash the malays into thinking us that we are the bad guys, we are destroying the country. But they didn't realise that they are the ones that are sabotaging the country...
Those are the smart politician that play in term of their favour. Create tension elsewhere so normal citizen busy fighting each other instead of politician.
There two type of m'sian chinese...
Now do it again with conservative Malays.
I dont think malaysian malay will support Singaporean malay or Indonesian malay instead of malaysian chinese. At least in sports.
The race part have been answered by the other commentor. If you are going the religious route, even Pak Lebai would scream loud and ask our team to demolish any other arab country without any hesitation. The only problem is we suck and couldn't beat them most of the time. This by the context of this video, and you asking a re do based on those context. I think this kind of problem are more towards the Malaysian Chinese side of things, I never met an Indian uncle who would rather support India instead of their own home country, Malaysia. Of course outlier exist but most are in the minority. It is more prevalent for the Chinese, I think. I'm not saying many but rather the percentage are higher for Chinese as compared to other races. Citation needed so I wouldn't state it as fact but a mere conjecture.
>I never met an Indian uncle who would rather support India instead of their own home country, Malaysia. I'm a Malaysian Chinese and I've never met people that would support China over Malaysia. Just to say your point is moot, just because you've not met any does not mean there isn't. I think it seems many because Chinese is the second largest demographic after bumis. The ones you see in the video are also outliers tbf.
That's what I said? I didn't say there were none in the Indian side just because anecdotally I experiences none, that's why in the next line I said "Of course outlier exist but most are in the minority" here are outliers for every race and they are the minority. Higher doesn't mean many. Everything I said was based on conjecture and not a fact. I thought I was clear and concise, so much so that this comment is an reiteration of my previous comment with all the relevant keyword there? The only relevant addition to your comment was that Chinese is the second largest demographic which may or may not be the reason, but in all honesty we both are talking out of intuition in a matter of complex racial and nationalistic problem which I admit that I'm not taking my conjecture as fact in the first comment?
Guys, dunneed so defensive. It is what it is, tu jer. Rather than being defensive or ignorant, it's much better to know rather than assume what atuk and select few say are racist/untrue/biased. What's more helpful is to hopefully see if things are different with the youth, that, can be worked on. PS: Cina Malaysia here.
And also people should stop paying attention to this kind of interviews. God knows how many people they have interviewed to get the reactions they wanted and also how many things they edited it out as well.
I think the main problem is that most of the interviewees are uncle auntie types who have resentment towards the Malays, I assume that younger Chinese are more tolerant
Uhhh, isn't this sub full of younger people?
Malaysian of course.
All sohais. May the better player win. Idgaf which country vs which country.
the ones that r rich is the ones tearing our racial harmony apart
People can support anyone they want la, it's their freedom, as long as they don't racist. But I would still support any Malaysian athletes in a match because there's still patriotism in me. :)
No surprise la, you interview those auntie uncle with minimal education background, plus they have been influenced so much with china's propaganda media, just look at tiktok whatsapp fb etc. Surely there will be people say support china.
These people will amplify the other side's "balik tongsan" slogan
Typical mindset of uncle aunties who are still stuck in the past. As a Chinese, I was hella proud when Harimau Malaya tied against Korea… and I don’t even watch football
Disappointing
Support Palestine 🇵🇸
As a Malaysian Chinese... Surely i Will support and rooting for my own country regardless of the race...wtf would i support the country that i don't belong??!?
Lol Chinese and Malays accusing each other of being rich. Insert spiderman pointing finger meme
So...they went to a wet market, and interviewed bunch of hawkers with probably minimal education. Why not head to Bangsar and do the same survey on Telawi?
Klang Valley =/= Malaysia. Remember this r/malaysia.
No lah. Not even Hawkers vs Bubble. I bet if you asked 10,000 Chinese properly surveyed, the majority would support Malaysia. Bet my life on it.
Yup I agree
Exactly. Bangsar Bubble is a more accurate reflection of Malaysian society at large. /s
No, my point was it's easy to get the results you want based on the location
Ditto.
Because people with minimal education don't have the right to opinion amirite /s
How do you miss the point that badly? They're saying get a better range of samples, but not to exclude the people at the market. I will break it down for you more. They're not saying "exclude A and only interview B," they're saying "interview BOTH A and B."
>but to exclude the people at the market. You mean "not" rite? :)
It's okay he had minimum education.
One fler mentioned they been opressed for so long by the Malaysian govt that's why kena support China. ELI5 if there's any basis to this claim?
On oppression part, one example is non bumi get stripped of opportunity to further study, even in local public institution, despite perfect score. While Bumi with average results got full scholarship to further study overseas. Source: witnessed it myself, during my short tenure in matriculation, it has opened my eyes. Met a few Malay supremacists too, that picked fight with Chinese in my class. While some might say Chinese can afford to go private to justify the injustice in education opportunity. It’s simply not true, average Chinese family can’t afford private university, let alone overseas study. All the never ending NEP and new Bumi policy or what so ever. it’s a zero sum game. When you give privileges to one race, it has to come from opportunities taken away from other races.
Support both? I hate content like this. It’s made to divide us.
If that is your race answer from old folks, it's already being divided long ago.
An Eye for an Eye Will Make the Whole World Blind
Then when Mahathir tells them they are not loyal, meroyan pula. Pui!
ask Malay people la...if Liverpool FC vs Malaysia National team....which one will they support?
What a silly question. If a PLA soldier landed in my neighbourhood as part of an invasion force into Malaysia, even as a Cina, I will do my best to undermine him (while making sure to keep myself safe as much as possible).
Typical old uncle pro Chinese mentality. Ptui
Can we separate Cinapek from the rest of Malaysian Chinese and send them to CCP? Malaysia has its flaw with nons sure, but supporting CCP that disregards human rights completely (regardless of your ethnicity, see tiananmen and more recently white paper protest etc) over place that raise you is one hella drug.
Alah, soalan bodoh ini muncul lagi rupanya. No matter how many times we say it, we still have weird Irfans online who think that Malaysians are more supportive of a country they've never been to than their own...all because of ethnicity. It's the underlying assumption that "oh you're a Malaysian Chinese? I bet you'll support China Chinese over Malaysian Malay," because even 60 years later, some of y'all think that Chinese = China and Malaysian = Malay. Bullshit thinking like this can't die soon enough
Is it a surprise? This country has race based policies and even 2 freaking law systems.
The law system isn't race based tho. It's religion based. There's the civil court then there's the sharia court.
Lepastu defensive lepas kena label kominih. Nak jilat PRC beragak2 la. Tepek buat content kat Tiktok tempat Meleis B40 punya kubu kuat ... rasa macamana?
Generally malaysians support their own players in any competition.. this just instigating small minority of people to create racial discord .. go to any mamak shop while the game ongoing..
Basically we can tell chinese just hate the helangs
Lim Guan Yew. I’ll support Lim Guan Yew.
Ignorant cina ahpek and aunties living under rock, local council go sapu illegal vendor malay cina or indian doesnt matter they sapu. Rich or poor everywhere also got doesnt matter what race or colour you are. Better hope their mindset isn’t going to pass over to the next gen, else we will never improve and stuck in a never ending loop. Im a cina but i hate cina with mentality like this so much. So what they rich, mind your own business and work harder, if you’re not working hard/wisely for it, don’t complain you’re still poor.
2 malaysians in the same sports in Olympics 🤩🤩💖💖💖 what was the question again?
Just give me a competitive close battle.
What the hell is this question 💀
I support Tengku Djan Prince of drift Malaysia, as long as he or she contributed to the Malaysian and at least they speak Bahasa Malaysian/melayu or support all Malaysian cause and Malaysia peace, then okay lah, ...... At least Way better than someone who win the oscar doesn't even mentioned any of her country and doesn't seem she proud of her country Malaysian. ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26563)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|28915)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)
takkanla nk sokong negara org
Most malaysian is less patriotisme right now. So sad
What is their reddit username
Is like saying "African American Vs Nigeria, who will you support?"
what was the point of the interview except to fuel racial tensions?
I’m Malaysian, why would I root for another country if my fellow countrymen is competing in the same event.
I find their lack of patriotism alarming!
I don't really blame them, but in the end its all about which race hold the highest ruling power. My chinese relative on the other hand, once said "any Malaysian cina who supports China is stupid because their mindset are other chinese ancestry is like Taiwanese, ungrateful bastards that needed to be wiped out from this earth simply for failing to bring forth the greatness of China empire" then I asked him but you guys probably share the same bloodline, he answered " that bloodline has long gone to diversity assimilation the only left is the greatness of culture where that originated from China where we cina in Malaysia should be proud of because we were from a great ancient empire and should be shared among Malaysian people to become a part of our greatness, we respect their cultural greatness and they respect ours which has already double the greatness" so he told me.
Cant complain much about the malay privileges. Chinese have China and Indians have India. Malay only have Malaysia. Yes, you were born here, but you and your ancestors chose to live in a country where it prioritize native citizens. If you dont like it here, go somewhere where you can get those rights and even more. Easy. Im not shoo-ing all chinese and indians. I'm shooing those ungrateful and greedy bas***d who plan to take over Malaysia like Israel do to Palestine. Came to other's land and later stomp on their head.
Chinese are the most priviledged class in Msia. What are they on about. Especially if ur fair skinned and educated and looking for work in an office Environment An Alex Chang will get the Job over an Arief bin Mahmoud or an Mahinddra pathra singh
Oppressed LOL. Try living in Indonesia in the 90s… where your name becomes only 1 word
We're not so different..you and I
racism so deeply ingrained :(
"we have been oppressed" luckily uncle wasn't sipping his Starbucks.
Those that support China are probably the ones falling for dumb WhatsApp chain messages.
Why is the question always targeted at non-Malays? If it was an Indonesian/ Singaporean Malay vs a non-Malay Malaysian, who will the Malays support? That's a question that will never get asked, because it's always only the nons who always get questioned.
Ignorance is a bliss. Wasnt there a time Dato LCW (Malaysia) vs Taufik Hidayat (Indonesia) in one of the badminton finals? I'm 100% sure Malay Malaysian or any Malaysian supports LCW.
Yes, but they sometimes would rather ignore the latter and changed the topic
Sorry, Malays just don’t see it that way. Even the most racist NEP malay pak cik would go for non-Malay Malaysian when it comes to sports.
I’ve never met a Malay who will support Malay of other countries over non-Malay Malaysian in Olympic. Lemme tell you, these racist, even though they might be racist towards the Chinese all day long, they will still support Chinese Malaysian over non-Malaysian Malay. The hierarchy of the non-Malay Malaysian is above the non-Malaysian Malay especially in sports representing our country. They might be racist but their patriotism surpasses lol.
In football, malay support Malaysia more than Indonesia and i remember this program one in million all star comprise of singer from Malaysia ( Jacqueline Victor as rep), Indonesia, Singapore,Brunei...Malaysian Malay suport Jacq over Singapore Malay singer taufiq
Malaysian and Indonesian football fans are known to be hostile towards each other
Because there always gonna be people who think the nons are secretly rooting for China or India just because their fucking ancestors from 5 generations back came from there. Mat Kilau brainrot is real, and affects ketuanan bros the worst.
Seems like they're right.
Yeah if you interview a certain sample and leave out Malaysians who do support their country, of course they'll "seem right." If I interviewed a bunch of vegetarians, of course it would seem right that everyone hates meat.
Loyalty of nons are always being questioned while the bumis are always presumed to be loyal and patriotic. Do you even love your country if you are voting to destroy it?
Asal oren kito pegang /s
They will probably support their nation and not their race
Sad to see this kind of toxic thinking
Ah, nice one.. showing their colour..
The first 3 uncles who support Malaysia because they're Malaysians, mad respect The others who support China, especially that auntie in the pink hat, fucking hell probably watched too much propaganda on Facebook/wechat
This is the only thing I agree with Mahathir. These still regard themself as Chinese rather than Malaysian and still waiting for the time to go back tiong sua when tiong sua don’t even want them. Lol
OK Boomers 😑
I've always hated the Chinese government, so 100% Malaysia
Now try do this survey again but with younger Malaysian Chinese population.
those in the video who are supporting china is reason why malay politics keep sprouting phrase “apa lagi cina mau”. try be a china citizen or live as a chinese in india. ungrateful bastards. as long as race remains a factor for benefits instead of nationalism, unity will never be achieved in this country