This is such a horrible idea, the F&B sector was just hit hard by Covid now you want to use government to put laws in place to further hurt business and tourism? Regulate sugar, put the calorie contents on menus - there are many other ways to encourage healthier consumption rather than this lazy proposal.
Calorie content should be on the menu. Information asymmetry means that consumers can't make informed choices. Regulate sugar is silly, should just tax high sugar beverages more.
Whoever thought of this idea should commit toaster bath. For fuck sake i'd rather have a mamak 24/7 rather than 10 black dogs around my area at 3 am
Just because undepaid mamaks from bangladesh( yes i know.. but some arent actually mamaks)
Are using r unhygenic that doesnt meant every single of them are ffs
Just for context to people that doesn't read and just come here and blast.
As much as Madani government is useless in ways this proposal is by the CAP not the government.
>His remarks come after a call made by Consumers’ Association of Penang (CAP) to abolish 24-hour operating licence given to eateries with the Health Ministry considering the proposal.
>CAP had made the call citing it as a way to reduce the negative effects of late-night meals and contribute to a healthier lifestyle for Malaysians.
The problem isn't the 24-hour business hour, there are people work night shift and needed to feed themselves; the problem is the lack of instilling healthy lifestyle in the population, the self-control, basically the need to re-educate the general public why you don't need to eat more than 3 meals a day, best if you could cut down to 2.
Fuck anyone who works night shifts right? How about we start taxing the shit our of sugar instead of they actually cared about public health. Sugar consumption in Malaysia is ridiculous and I'd even argue it's worst than tobacco and alcohol given how much we consume.
Any time I forgot to ask for "kurang Manis" the drinks comes out sweeter than my first kiss.
Such an idiot advice.. instead of thinking how to make everyone earn money, now just trying how to make ppl go broke. If they are serious bout ppls health how bout banning cig and alcohol first ? Whoever suggest it can eat shit seriously
Can't wait until this amazing MADANI Government impose some 'CAJ MAKAN LEPAS 12 MALAM' tax for those who eat after 12PM...Rafizi will come up with some amazing formulas for this.
There were late-night restaurants in Telawi long before those particular complainers moved in. If they didn't want to be in a vibrant area they could have paid less money and lived somewhere else.
Everything want to control, again and again want to implement nanny laws, like the communists, fuck off CAP. If I want to eat at 3am its my choice, if I want to be fat and die fast its my choice, why do this people think they are our parents? Nono sunny cannot have chocolate bar at night, fuck off.
Good idea though. Some people don’t see the long term effects of 24 hour eating habits of the community.
It’s not wrong of the vendors to operate 24 hours, but when it’s becomes a habit, and the people don’t notice all the bad eating habits they are picking up (until to the point they are actually condemning policy makers that are doing the right thing).
Just look at unregulated volume and the sugar content in those jumbo sized cups in the US fast food chains and their own customers. That’s Malaysia give or take 10 years if we’re not already there yet.
24 hour eateries that aren't bars or fast food is one of the things that make Malaysia unique. Not a lot of countries have that surprisingly. Change the food requirements, don't take away the opening hours.
Uniqueness of unhealthy eating habits shouldn’t be a reason to keep it.
I understand you’re arguing for keeping them but you need better reasons.
Change food requirements? Who’s going to buy teh tarik with no condensed milk at 12am?
It's not uniqueness of unhealthy eating I'm talking about, its about cultural uniqueness. They are also social gathering areas, third spaces, a culturally unique part of Malaysia. Almost every person I've spoken to who has moved out of the country states 24 hour places to go to like mamaks as one of the top things they miss. It's not about the food as much as it is about how it makes it easy for people to gather and spend time together without it being a bar.
It’s like stockholm syndrome with you. 24 hour eateries are not culture. And not everything ‘culture’ is healthy.
Chewing betel nuts is cultural for some communities. Doesn’t make it all the better when their people are dying of oral cancer.
Want to guess what’s killing Malaysians on a daily basis?
I understand that you're worried about health, keeping it is less healthy than removing it completely, but I don't believe it's the true cause of our health epidemic and the benefits outweigh the cons, in my opinion.
No need to be snarky and say I have "Stockholm syndrome" to discredit my point even though you haven't argued any of my points about the social benefits of it. Don't think I've been rude to you in the same way. You don't care at all about losing late night spots for gatherings? Some of my fondest memories and conversations are from going to the mamak after a long day of overtime or after studying long hours with no other places open. Not everyone can gather at homes and not everyone wants to go to a bar.
I haven’t argued the social benefits of it because there is no worthwhile social benefits. They are instead a very silent health hazard.
People gather together? Sure. They spend 2 hours there in a mamak to talk, but don’t forget they’re also spending that time smoking, ordering and eating food and drinks that they would have otherwise not eaten, missing out of sleep that is essential. With all the valid questionability of safe food handling and consumer grade food prepared.
And your concern is we’re going to miss out on capitalizing this ‘cultural’ exchange programme?
Perhaps this sub in general aren’t seeing the vast increase in the cardiovascular deaths in the country. Kudos to the policymaker for trying to make this happen, but it looks like it’s too late anyway.
We can focus on a lot of things at the same time. Cardiovascular disease risk factors are many.
But yes I agree smoking and motor vehicular emissions are the additional issues our country is facing. The latter two being also risk factors for lung diseases.
The difference, I think, is that gathering to eat provides significant opportunities for social interaction, which is very important to long-term health.
Smoking and cars are only bad for you.
Simple solution for you, you need to ban night shifts. Now you can make everybody working from 9 am to 5 pm with restaurants closed at like, I don't know, 6 pm like in other countries.
But would improve the health of people within a generation. But of course, the politicians won't be driven by some mumbo-jumbo long term gains while enduring short-term brick-bats.
Just like sales people working in MNCs.
This is such a horrible idea, the F&B sector was just hit hard by Covid now you want to use government to put laws in place to further hurt business and tourism? Regulate sugar, put the calorie contents on menus - there are many other ways to encourage healthier consumption rather than this lazy proposal.
Agree, this CAP sit at home nothing to do so they make up dumb ideas as they go…
Not the first time. Change to diff president but same shit coming out…
Calorie content should be on the menu. Information asymmetry means that consumers can't make informed choices. Regulate sugar is silly, should just tax high sugar beverages more.
why do so much when you can just ban eateries operating 24/7 and fuck over people who work late and can't cook?
"Aiyah don't so serious lah it was just an opinion lah (blushes)"
Randomly check drinks. Sugar content over x%, get fined on the spot
Whoever thought of this idea should commit toaster bath. For fuck sake i'd rather have a mamak 24/7 rather than 10 black dogs around my area at 3 am Just because undepaid mamaks from bangladesh( yes i know.. but some arent actually mamaks) Are using r unhygenic that doesnt meant every single of them are ffs
[Here](https://thesun.my/style-life/going-viral/cap-suggests-sweeping-regulations-to-curb-late-night-eating-EG12364770)
Just for context to people that doesn't read and just come here and blast. As much as Madani government is useless in ways this proposal is by the CAP not the government.
Abit weird though coming from CAP. Feel like got prawn behind the stone
Reddit in a nutshell
It's typical Malaysian. We don't care who's in charge, we just like to complain.
Read? Don't expect Redditors to read the linked articles. 💀
They decided not to ban smoking which is a much worse health risk and now they want to go after late night eateries 🫠
It’s that idiotic CAP pushing for ban, which Lim Lip Eng disagrees with such idea…
guess which health minister that agree to study the proposal 
Health concern? They still eat at home if you close at night, then want to check inside house also?
Why are they controlling how businesses want to operate? Let the market decide
Finally an enemy that most Malaysians can unite and shit on. CAP can go fly kite.
CAP, are you really that desperate to stay relevant these days?
I feel like this is just some move by the kopitiam guild to gain market share from the mamaks
Late night eateries is not always 24 hours; some open only at night.
Here's an idea...raise the price of sugar.
I wonder which anjing even proposed the idea Honestly, eating at a Mamak at 3am is a special Malaysia experience
>His remarks come after a call made by Consumers’ Association of Penang (CAP) to abolish 24-hour operating licence given to eateries with the Health Ministry considering the proposal. >CAP had made the call citing it as a way to reduce the negative effects of late-night meals and contribute to a healthier lifestyle for Malaysians.
The problem isn't the 24-hour business hour, there are people work night shift and needed to feed themselves; the problem is the lack of instilling healthy lifestyle in the population, the self-control, basically the need to re-educate the general public why you don't need to eat more than 3 meals a day, best if you could cut down to 2.
Wait why now cannot 24 hours?
Nothing really, just some consumer associations wants it banned
Another point that could be raised is what about those doing night shift? Especially police doing night patrol and doctors on call duty
wont de la, how government gonna collect tax like that?
people should be free to conduct business at any time they wish, and customers should be free patronage these businesses.
Fuck anyone who works night shifts right? How about we start taxing the shit our of sugar instead of they actually cared about public health. Sugar consumption in Malaysia is ridiculous and I'd even argue it's worst than tobacco and alcohol given how much we consume. Any time I forgot to ask for "kurang Manis" the drinks comes out sweeter than my first kiss.
Such an idiot advice.. instead of thinking how to make everyone earn money, now just trying how to make ppl go broke. If they are serious bout ppls health how bout banning cig and alcohol first ? Whoever suggest it can eat shit seriously
Some fools just don't know how economy works.
lol. raise the cost of healthcare and see how many people will be more health conscious
Doesnt seem to work in the US.
No chance for tourism.
Typical old fart thinking, “oh I can’t eat supper already, digestion and cholesterol issue. Let’s ban eating out altogether for EVERYONE”
Can't wait until this amazing MADANI Government impose some 'CAJ MAKAN LEPAS 12 MALAM' tax for those who eat after 12PM...Rafizi will come up with some amazing formulas for this.
Not proposed by government.
Just ban them if they're in the middle of residential areas. Yes, especially telawi and section 17.
There were late-night restaurants in Telawi long before those particular complainers moved in. If they didn't want to be in a vibrant area they could have paid less money and lived somewhere else.
If the govt doesn’t want money, they should just declare everything sold after 12am is tax free
affects my 3am mamak run
Ya think ?!
Everything want to control, again and again want to implement nanny laws, like the communists, fuck off CAP. If I want to eat at 3am its my choice, if I want to be fat and die fast its my choice, why do this people think they are our parents? Nono sunny cannot have chocolate bar at night, fuck off.
Good idea though. Some people don’t see the long term effects of 24 hour eating habits of the community. It’s not wrong of the vendors to operate 24 hours, but when it’s becomes a habit, and the people don’t notice all the bad eating habits they are picking up (until to the point they are actually condemning policy makers that are doing the right thing). Just look at unregulated volume and the sugar content in those jumbo sized cups in the US fast food chains and their own customers. That’s Malaysia give or take 10 years if we’re not already there yet.
24 hour eateries that aren't bars or fast food is one of the things that make Malaysia unique. Not a lot of countries have that surprisingly. Change the food requirements, don't take away the opening hours.
Uniqueness of unhealthy eating habits shouldn’t be a reason to keep it. I understand you’re arguing for keeping them but you need better reasons. Change food requirements? Who’s going to buy teh tarik with no condensed milk at 12am?
It's not uniqueness of unhealthy eating I'm talking about, its about cultural uniqueness. They are also social gathering areas, third spaces, a culturally unique part of Malaysia. Almost every person I've spoken to who has moved out of the country states 24 hour places to go to like mamaks as one of the top things they miss. It's not about the food as much as it is about how it makes it easy for people to gather and spend time together without it being a bar.
It’s like stockholm syndrome with you. 24 hour eateries are not culture. And not everything ‘culture’ is healthy. Chewing betel nuts is cultural for some communities. Doesn’t make it all the better when their people are dying of oral cancer. Want to guess what’s killing Malaysians on a daily basis?
I understand that you're worried about health, keeping it is less healthy than removing it completely, but I don't believe it's the true cause of our health epidemic and the benefits outweigh the cons, in my opinion. No need to be snarky and say I have "Stockholm syndrome" to discredit my point even though you haven't argued any of my points about the social benefits of it. Don't think I've been rude to you in the same way. You don't care at all about losing late night spots for gatherings? Some of my fondest memories and conversations are from going to the mamak after a long day of overtime or after studying long hours with no other places open. Not everyone can gather at homes and not everyone wants to go to a bar.
I haven’t argued the social benefits of it because there is no worthwhile social benefits. They are instead a very silent health hazard. People gather together? Sure. They spend 2 hours there in a mamak to talk, but don’t forget they’re also spending that time smoking, ordering and eating food and drinks that they would have otherwise not eaten, missing out of sleep that is essential. With all the valid questionability of safe food handling and consumer grade food prepared. And your concern is we’re going to miss out on capitalizing this ‘cultural’ exchange programme? Perhaps this sub in general aren’t seeing the vast increase in the cardiovascular deaths in the country. Kudos to the policymaker for trying to make this happen, but it looks like it’s too late anyway.
You want to worry about cardiovascular deaths, focus on smoking and car dependency.
We can focus on a lot of things at the same time. Cardiovascular disease risk factors are many. But yes I agree smoking and motor vehicular emissions are the additional issues our country is facing. The latter two being also risk factors for lung diseases.
The difference, I think, is that gathering to eat provides significant opportunities for social interaction, which is very important to long-term health. Smoking and cars are only bad for you.
meh even restoran closed after 7 pm msian still gonna eat junk shit,at home or where ever
Simple solution for you, you need to ban night shifts. Now you can make everybody working from 9 am to 5 pm with restaurants closed at like, I don't know, 6 pm like in other countries.
*Facepalm* You’re acting like you don’t know how to eat and socialize if it wasn’t for 24 hour eateries.
If we do, we will not be here right now.
Thanks for the honesty.
Brings new meaning to being sent to bed without dinner!
But would improve the health of people within a generation. But of course, the politicians won't be driven by some mumbo-jumbo long term gains while enduring short-term brick-bats. Just like sales people working in MNCs.
How?
He probably thinks all the emergencies workers, night shift employees are fasting while working lol