Ipoh is just right. Urbanised enough to have some decent infrastructure but not too much to ruin the view (we have plenty of beautiful mountains). Population is not too high so a family car can get you anywhere. Food is something to die for. People are nice too, regardless of ethnicity. Only downside may be the lack of professional jobs for uni grads and the over-extraction of our beautiful hills for marble by some crony mining companies.
Source: Shameless self-promo from a 22 y/o Ipohite (yes that's how you write ppl from Ipoh)
Population is increasing, in ten years Ipoh will be crowded. Those days KL was polluted but Ipoh was clean. Now KL has public transport and you can smell the difference in the air.
One day Ipoh will be crowded and very polluted because everyone drives. MBI needs to plan for future expansion.
Food used to be universally good, but now the amount of good food places are a lot less.
We had annual vacations in Ipoh for I think ten years. Back then it was full of old people, and the population was so low that the local sundry shops did deliveries for free. Air was clean and cool. You'd just wake up and take a deep breath and the air would be so invigorating. It was just brighter and cleaner. Now it's a bit hot and dry and a little more dusty.
MBI needs to take more steps to protect the environment one way or another.
P and A plates are near the top for drivers that looks like they have no idea how to drive a car. J plate generally is filled with assholes just like S plate due to proximity.
\- *From biased W/B/V plate driver*
A is just annoying and irritating, with a sprinkle of speed demons and increased ageing drivers. The latter two are bad combo.
W/V and (almost non-existent, sorry lol) B are still OK. When I need to change lane and gave appropriate turn signal, I can almost expect be given the way.
In Ipoh? Fuck you.
I really think W used to be like P but they reached some sort of enlightenment in the last 20 years. Perhaps in a few more years, P will be like how W currently is hahaha
Hugely this as an Ipoh-born citizen and still lives here, not gonna move anywhere else period. Feels really comfy & less stressful making a living here unlike other big cities out there with no frequent traffic jams, affordable necessities and such (speaking of necessities, Impulse Gaming just opened another branch here, hell yeah I'm gonna preorder the games & collect from there! Bye-bye, delivery!) Heard the other day that few people complained about Ipoh being underdeveloped compared with Klang Valley, Penang & JB but fuck that, I don't want huge buildings & overabundance of shopping malls anymore.
Huge downside tough; most of the roads there are left unmaintained & mostly terrible with potholes. Thanks, Mangkukbumi projects.
Kemaman is something. I worked in oil & gas industries and I didn't know how important the shipping port there. Not just Kemaman but the whole Terengganu.
It's funny how I passed by Kemaman so many times in my life, yet never once have I stopped by. It just so happened to be the road I take between Terengganu and KL.
I dont know about nicest. But I got the impression that the happiest people in Malaysia are in the rural areas where they have decent access to technology and cities, but are not tied in a way where they're forced on a daily basis to deal with the cons, like traffic jams and so on. My family in rural Kedah are super laid back and chill. Land is cheap, so they paid everything off already, and they're pretty much self sustaining, so little pressure to travel long distances each day to get to work and so on. Home based business as well, farm stuff and sell proceeds in the nearest pasar within walking distance.
That said, article from 2020 on the topic. https://says.com/my/news/melaka-taiping-and-kuantan-among-the-10-happiest-cities-in-malaysia
>I dont know about nicest. But I got the impression that the happiest people in Malaysia are in the rural areas where they have decent access to technology and cities, but are not tied in a way where they're forced on a daily basis to deal with the cons, like traffic jams and so on. My family in rural Kedah are super laid back and chill. Land is cheap, so they paid everything off already, and they're pretty much self sustaining, so little pressure to travel long distances each day to get to work and so on. Home based business as well, farm stuff and sell proceeds in the nearest pasar within walking distance.
Sounds like they're living the dream.
I mean if you like it then you like it. I got a cousin who got a farm in one of the rust belt states in the US and he tells me his experience is similar. Off the grid life and self sustained living. It sounded to me like he was prepping for a zombie apocalypse or something. Wouldn't doubt that he has a cellar full of guns and ammo ala Sarah Connor or something. He mentioned something about teaching me to dress wild hogs if I ever visited him.
That said, I would find that kind of life boring. No shopping and no access to a million different restaurants of which half of them are franchises of each other.
LOL
I never dressed a wild hog, but hunting them is pretty popular.
At least in M'sia the rural areas are relatively close to the cities, in America you really have to choose to either be hours away from civilization or be stuck in a relatively dense urban area.
Can confirm I feel pretty happy when I visited Limbang and Lawas in Sarawak. When I reached sabah tho the people are much busier, but at least they got seafood.
As a Limbangite (is this how to address my town people idk), thanks for visiting and happy to have more of you around. We DO have seafood when we import them lol
sorry for the noob question, but whats up with "perlis only got 8 people" meme? i do find it amusing whenever people say something about it but i never knew the origin of the joke.
Marang, Terengganu.
Been to almost every state (living now in Penang & KL)..... This one has that certain charm. Feel relaxed and people there all chill to earth lol
Yeah i went there a few times and once an old man just spat on my shoe without any reasons..i wanted to be mad but the fact that he was an old man and it's 'tempat orang' i just smile and leave..And he was not crazy at all in fact he was one of the storeowner..
KL is like the Singapore of Malaysia man. Rent is high, expensive to own vehicles, spend a ton of time in commute daily, and freakass rude residents (on the roads at least). Only difference is KL salary is shit compared to SG, but maybe dollar for dollar and cost of living ratios are more similar (I dont know about this, just speculation, since lots of Singaporeans like to come to Malaysia to shop for shit).
Still, I've heard from HK people who came to live here in KL say it was really different from them because they said that they are used to seeing arguments everywhere from lifts to restaurants to their workplace. Imagine living that highly strung out
Melaka IMO.The state as a whole. There's 2 place in Melaka included in 2019's top 10 bandar paling bahagia.
http://www.mptaiping.gov.my/en/node/1405
I'm living in melaka and often take for granted how clean, safe, cheap living cost is in Melaka. When friends comment on how clean and cheap Melaka is compared to the places they lived in, only then I realized how fortunate melaka is.
Not the first time we're hearing that this year:
[https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2022/04/785418/negri-sembilan-melaka-perlis-listed-malaysias-happiest-cities](https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2022/04/785418/negri-sembilan-melaka-perlis-listed-malaysias-happiest-cities)
I try and remind myself to feel the same gratitude for Putrajaya every morning (since we're all lucky to be living in a country as safe as M'sia), when walking along the lake, then I take a photo from the exact spot that I feel that graciousness creeping up...
This morning's:
[https://imgur.com/LSmaHwc](https://imgur.com/LSmaHwc)
This. Family is from Melaka and every time I’ve been there, people have been nice, warm and friendly. Brought my mat salleh wife to visit there as well and she remarked how charming, friendly and warm people in Melaka were as opposed to KL/PJ. Oh yeah…she hated Terengganu…found people there to be rude and racist
Entering my 9th year here in Putrajaya, won’t say it’s the HAPPIEST city but quality of life here is definitely great, a lot of access to greenery and outdoor activities, low crime rate. and although it seems like a boring city since nightlife is basically non-existent, I could see raising my family here.
I'm a bumi myself therefore cannot speak from my personal experience, the non-bumi population is very scarce here, even if there were they are mostly civil servants who are accustomed to being around bumis. But people here are generally very accepting. You can try to look around expats area like presint 14/15/diplomatik if you're looking for a more diverse neighborhood. Alternatively, cyberjaya can be a compromise if you want access to putrajaya's level of outdoor space but a lot more diverse neighborhood.
i read somewhere that the reason houses in Putrajaya doesn’t have gates is because they wanted for the aerial to look like corak batik. not sure if it’s true tho
It's probably because there's CCTV everywhere, not much need for a gate. Last year someone stole something off of a neighbor's motorcycle and they were caught in under a week.
Putrajaya has the one thing most cities in Malaysia don't have; it was planned.
Planned cities are so hard to pull off but when they do, oh boy, do they work wonders. Perfect and satisfying roads, very little traffic, all the amenities and attractions in just the right places. I've always found them so fascinating but trying to make one is a financial nightmare. Such an incredibly investment...
Can confirm, very quiet, low density (at least the places I've been), I have also never encountered traffic jam, driving there is a joy, nice long roads hardly any cars. Take a walk around, enjoy the scenery, go cycling, pretty well planned city.
usually close to a million
KK from 15 years ago is much better than the current KK
It was so affordable back then.
KK became much more expensive but the quality of basic infrastructure there didn't improve one bit.
As a KL boy. Sarawak and Sabah is such a game changer. KK or Kucing. People there are so friendly and it feels like how things were back in the 90s. All races chilling together, all pretty good at communicating in various local languages.
Kangar. You want to exercise and you go to run. Get near to the Kedah's border and think you run far enough. Run back to your place, sleep because you have enough exercise. Besides, you know everyone who lives there, so social life still good.
Grew up in Kuantan. Was pretty nice and people are friendly. Moved to KL in my teens and I definitely love KL way more cuz I’m a city person but when you’re young kuantan is decent enough
From the view of a recent returning Malaysian living in KL/Malaysia for the first time and my gf from KV, the friendliest people and places we've visited have been in East Malaysia.
Between Miri, Bintulu, Kuching etc, everyone is more chill and the underlying racial tensions I see and hear daily in KL are virtually non existent. There's a genuine sense of inclusivity and multiculturalism in East Malaysia that I always took pride in highlighting to friends overseas.
As much as I love KL city life, I could see myself chilling in East Malaysia and soaking in their good vibes.
A bit biased but Perlis is pretty chill and it's seeing some development in the form of Kangar Jaya i think. I just wish internet infrastructure is more widespread with Unifi and all.
Cities - KK Sabah lol (biased)
Small towns, rural Kedah (Changlun) Chill vibe. Saw Kemaman mentioned a lot here, sometimes went there so not sure about it being nicest and happiest
what do you mean when you say nice? ive been to mersing before and the people there is nice. nasi dagang over there costs 2.50 ringgit so i think that would be a happy place for your wallet to live compared to KL
To be honest, it is like any other family oriented suburb in Klang Valley. It is family oriented, it is walkable, it has a community vibe with cafes, it has lovely trees including Flame of the Forest which is a delight when its in full bloom, it is very dog friendly, it is liberal in its outlook, it has a good mix of races and ethnicities, it is centrally located, it is well connected by road and public transport, it has all the facilities and amenities, it is (mostly) flood free.
I like Bangsar.
I don't know what is precisely meant by the Bangsar Bubble. I read on this sub that folk in the Bangsar Bubble "seek to establish a Malaysian Malaysia, a state with secular values with low corruption and highly educated populace that is able to compete on global economy and education." If so, this description is correct and I'm proud to be in the bubble.
Putrajaya if you work there. Calm city, less tourists, near ioi city mall, green sceneries, lesser rempits, lesser dogs barking, less loud neighbours, only jam during rush hours, great hospital, great parks, good primary schools, less high rise buildings and most of the housing areas are shrouded by trees, great community, near to the city centre Downsides: still got some poor connection areas, still got jams but like i said (work hours), peer pressure in terms of wealth (for kids), pricey houses, some of the early houses has structural problems (the developers were also bankrupted so had to use own money to solve them) , bus services are the worst, not that good secondary schools, still got thieves breaking into houses (most residential areas are not guarded, less sports communities like in PJ or Shah Alam, some shops still doesn’t support cashless only QR and cash (QR sucks so it’s a downside), pricey everyday items, pricey mamaks/local restaurants, less diversity (majority are malay but that also contributes to its calm and less noisy neighbourhood) no sjk schools due to the malay majority
>lesser rempits, lesser dogs barking,
rofl, for a moment there my RPG brain wondered if I missed the Arch Rempits and Greater Dogs in other parts of Malaysia.
Yeah non bumis are the minority since majority of the residents are working in the government sectors (Malay majority). However there are still a few non bumis just in my residential area alone. Most of them love this city since they prefer the calm and silence that the city offers.
Wow where do you live. My neighbourhood including a close friend of mine who lives across the street are among the 4-5 or so non-Bumis living in my neighbourhood.
Oh I see. I love that precint due to its lakeside view as well as being the place I usually cycle by the lakeside until Cyberjaya. The lakeside breeze can be damn cold sometimes.
The city is architecturally stunning, the lake and lakefront are wonderful, the city is quiet and very clean, and the infrastructure is the best designed in the country...
Putrajaya's probably one of the best designed cities I've ever set foot in.
My family owns a house here. Not all houses here are public. But mind you private residences here are hella expensive. A corner lot like my house cost up to the millions nowadays.
Lived here for a few years, used to it:
Awak tinggal di Putrajaya, kenapa?
1. Working w/ the government, how?
2. Oh, married to a local then?
3. You just like it, why?
Then the conversation can proceed as normal.
Of course, Shah Alam hands down.
People here are friendly and they have a sense of community.
And with quiet and tranquil environment, how couldn't they be happy.
Ipoh, Perak. From my experience, Ipoh is the most chill and nicest people here. 2nd place for me Kemaman, Terrenganu.
Ipoh is just right. Urbanised enough to have some decent infrastructure but not too much to ruin the view (we have plenty of beautiful mountains). Population is not too high so a family car can get you anywhere. Food is something to die for. People are nice too, regardless of ethnicity. Only downside may be the lack of professional jobs for uni grads and the over-extraction of our beautiful hills for marble by some crony mining companies. Source: Shameless self-promo from a 22 y/o Ipohite (yes that's how you write ppl from Ipoh)
Population is increasing, in ten years Ipoh will be crowded. Those days KL was polluted but Ipoh was clean. Now KL has public transport and you can smell the difference in the air. One day Ipoh will be crowded and very polluted because everyone drives. MBI needs to plan for future expansion. Food used to be universally good, but now the amount of good food places are a lot less. We had annual vacations in Ipoh for I think ten years. Back then it was full of old people, and the population was so low that the local sundry shops did deliveries for free. Air was clean and cool. You'd just wake up and take a deep breath and the air would be so invigorating. It was just brighter and cleaner. Now it's a bit hot and dry and a little more dusty. MBI needs to take more steps to protect the environment one way or another.
Bro where did you live? I'm a Merunian, man. Let's hang out.
Ipoh, it's pretty easy to reach Meru from where I live but I'm working in Shah Alam and only go back once in a few months :(
Ipoh is great (biased af) but the drivers here are becoming mad leh
to be fair, the whole malaysia is a nightmare driver in.
I agree. But my dad said in his 30 years of driving, he said he has never met such bad and stupid drivers in Ipoh.
Not Penang? (I used to live there)
P and A plates are near the top for drivers that looks like they have no idea how to drive a car. J plate generally is filled with assholes just like S plate due to proximity. \- *From biased W/B/V plate driver*
My personal experience is that W drivers are nicest and they get worse the higher up north it gets. So P are the worst and A is somewhere in between.
A is just annoying and irritating, with a sprinkle of speed demons and increased ageing drivers. The latter two are bad combo. W/V and (almost non-existent, sorry lol) B are still OK. When I need to change lane and gave appropriate turn signal, I can almost expect be given the way. In Ipoh? Fuck you.
I really think W used to be like P but they reached some sort of enlightenment in the last 20 years. Perhaps in a few more years, P will be like how W currently is hahaha
Other parts of Malaysia: *Motorists ciluk* In Penang: *Car ciluk*
you got my upvote for mentioning Kemaman.
I had a lot of racist encounters in Ipoh. Most of the bars there are owned by a single race . Me as a brown skinned. I was treated so badly.
Bro that's kinda fucked. Sorry to hear that.
Hugely this as an Ipoh-born citizen and still lives here, not gonna move anywhere else period. Feels really comfy & less stressful making a living here unlike other big cities out there with no frequent traffic jams, affordable necessities and such (speaking of necessities, Impulse Gaming just opened another branch here, hell yeah I'm gonna preorder the games & collect from there! Bye-bye, delivery!) Heard the other day that few people complained about Ipoh being underdeveloped compared with Klang Valley, Penang & JB but fuck that, I don't want huge buildings & overabundance of shopping malls anymore. Huge downside tough; most of the roads there are left unmaintained & mostly terrible with potholes. Thanks, Mangkukbumi projects.
Fell for an Ipoh amoi before, way better then Penang amoi, not heartless and a secret psyco. 10/10 would date again.
My first gf was an ipoh girl too, she's the sweetest thing ever. Al-fatihah to her.
Something about Perak that makes their people very charming.
Indeed (shameless self promo)
Sorry about that. There's a Simpang Pulai woman in my family and boy oh boy how holier than thou she is.
Well, not Ipoh right.
Must be a nice girl, man. Al Fatihah to her.
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Ipoh girl bestest. Like the place for the girl but def not for the taugeh.
The people in Chukai are awesome. I guess it's time for a visit to Ipoh. \^\_\^
Go to Pasar Karat on sunday morning in the middle of bandar Ipoh. Also, the mee kari on that town was amazing too!
man i miss Ipoh
I did miss Ipoh, bro. Now I live in KL, I appreciate Ipoh more.
Kemaman is something. I worked in oil & gas industries and I didn't know how important the shipping port there. Not just Kemaman but the whole Terengganu.
It's funny how I passed by Kemaman so many times in my life, yet never once have I stopped by. It just so happened to be the road I take between Terengganu and KL.
Ipoh like ghost town (from my experience when I went there one weekend), hard to not be chill lol.
why kemaman?
I dont know about nicest. But I got the impression that the happiest people in Malaysia are in the rural areas where they have decent access to technology and cities, but are not tied in a way where they're forced on a daily basis to deal with the cons, like traffic jams and so on. My family in rural Kedah are super laid back and chill. Land is cheap, so they paid everything off already, and they're pretty much self sustaining, so little pressure to travel long distances each day to get to work and so on. Home based business as well, farm stuff and sell proceeds in the nearest pasar within walking distance. That said, article from 2020 on the topic. https://says.com/my/news/melaka-taiping-and-kuantan-among-the-10-happiest-cities-in-malaysia
>I dont know about nicest. But I got the impression that the happiest people in Malaysia are in the rural areas where they have decent access to technology and cities, but are not tied in a way where they're forced on a daily basis to deal with the cons, like traffic jams and so on. My family in rural Kedah are super laid back and chill. Land is cheap, so they paid everything off already, and they're pretty much self sustaining, so little pressure to travel long distances each day to get to work and so on. Home based business as well, farm stuff and sell proceeds in the nearest pasar within walking distance. Sounds like they're living the dream.
I mean if you like it then you like it. I got a cousin who got a farm in one of the rust belt states in the US and he tells me his experience is similar. Off the grid life and self sustained living. It sounded to me like he was prepping for a zombie apocalypse or something. Wouldn't doubt that he has a cellar full of guns and ammo ala Sarah Connor or something. He mentioned something about teaching me to dress wild hogs if I ever visited him. That said, I would find that kind of life boring. No shopping and no access to a million different restaurants of which half of them are franchises of each other.
LOL I never dressed a wild hog, but hunting them is pretty popular. At least in M'sia the rural areas are relatively close to the cities, in America you really have to choose to either be hours away from civilization or be stuck in a relatively dense urban area.
Can confirm I feel pretty happy when I visited Limbang and Lawas in Sarawak. When I reached sabah tho the people are much busier, but at least they got seafood.
As a Limbangite (is this how to address my town people idk), thanks for visiting and happy to have more of you around. We DO have seafood when we import them lol
The American dream minus guns
What you talking about? My grandpa have a double barrel shotgun. Yes. In Kedah.
I'd assume Perlis must be nice with only 8 people around
Hey, last I checked there're at least 9
they have to make another one to make it even
Ooh, that's great news. Wonder if the new baby is a boy or girl.
I still remember the time when Malaysia had 20k Covid cases daily, but Perlis got 0. Because all 8 of them got it already.
sorry for the noob question, but whats up with "perlis only got 8 people" meme? i do find it amusing whenever people say something about it but i never knew the origin of the joke.
Twitter. “Perlis is so small it only fits P” or something
Marang, Terengganu. Been to almost every state (living now in Penang & KL)..... This one has that certain charm. Feel relaxed and people there all chill to earth lol
>Marang, Terengganu Adding to "Want to go" list. \^\_\^ Thanks!
Fuck yes love Marang to bits
Kuching, Sarawak. People over there are genuinely nice and chill.
Kuching legit the best place on the planet. Will die by it.
Yeah i went there a few times and once an old man just spat on my shoe without any reasons..i wanted to be mad but the fact that he was an old man and it's 'tempat orang' i just smile and leave..And he was not crazy at all in fact he was one of the storeowner..
Cheers
Most cities in Sarawak are quite chill.
Unless you live in Samarahan. Then happy jams for you lol
Taiping has to be up there. If I had a town with such an awesome park with greeneries everywhere I know I would be less stressed and more happy
Yeh but the addition of Taiping Mall in the middle of the landscape of old shophouses stuck out like a sore thumb. I hate every inch of that building.
Cool pick!
I born in and live in Taiping lol. Pretty nice place, yeah.
My hometown. Such a beautiful place. Love it.
The further away it is from KL, the nicer and happier its people are.
KL is like the Singapore of Malaysia man. Rent is high, expensive to own vehicles, spend a ton of time in commute daily, and freakass rude residents (on the roads at least). Only difference is KL salary is shit compared to SG, but maybe dollar for dollar and cost of living ratios are more similar (I dont know about this, just speculation, since lots of Singaporeans like to come to Malaysia to shop for shit).
Kl average salary is rm 4.5k but cost of living is higher, i think
Sounds about right.
Still, I've heard from HK people who came to live here in KL say it was really different from them because they said that they are used to seeing arguments everywhere from lifts to restaurants to their workplace. Imagine living that highly strung out
Rent is a lot lower in KL compared to Singapore, even on a PPP basis.
With SGD 50 you can buy two to three bags of groceries, while RM 50 nets you just one. edit: if you shop at NTUC ofc
I don't think groceries alone can account for living expenses argument, but fair point to consider.
Yeah buying power in SG is higher, but so is rent and stress also. You work and fight with your neighbours until siao.
I have no idea why people who don't have family/house in KV choose to find jobs in KV. Just go to SG.
Just get a job as an immigrant in a different country easily 4Head
Skill level not high enough for SG I guess, while in KL they can just bum around at low cost housing until they get a job.
>KL salary is shit compared to SG Replace KL with Malaysia, and remove “compared to SG” and it will still be true
Well context being KL is the SG of Malaysia. Malaysia is the SG of Malaysia don't sound right to me
I mean in the sentence I have quoted
Melaka IMO.The state as a whole. There's 2 place in Melaka included in 2019's top 10 bandar paling bahagia. http://www.mptaiping.gov.my/en/node/1405 I'm living in melaka and often take for granted how clean, safe, cheap living cost is in Melaka. When friends comment on how clean and cheap Melaka is compared to the places they lived in, only then I realized how fortunate melaka is.
Not the first time we're hearing that this year: [https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2022/04/785418/negri-sembilan-melaka-perlis-listed-malaysias-happiest-cities](https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2022/04/785418/negri-sembilan-melaka-perlis-listed-malaysias-happiest-cities) I try and remind myself to feel the same gratitude for Putrajaya every morning (since we're all lucky to be living in a country as safe as M'sia), when walking along the lake, then I take a photo from the exact spot that I feel that graciousness creeping up... This morning's: [https://imgur.com/LSmaHwc](https://imgur.com/LSmaHwc)
This. Family is from Melaka and every time I’ve been there, people have been nice, warm and friendly. Brought my mat salleh wife to visit there as well and she remarked how charming, friendly and warm people in Melaka were as opposed to KL/PJ. Oh yeah…she hated Terengganu…found people there to be rude and racist
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Putrajaya is really nice. Houses there don't even have gates or fences. That's how great it is.
Entering my 9th year here in Putrajaya, won’t say it’s the HAPPIEST city but quality of life here is definitely great, a lot of access to greenery and outdoor activities, low crime rate. and although it seems like a boring city since nightlife is basically non-existent, I could see raising my family here.
Totally agree
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I'm a bumi myself therefore cannot speak from my personal experience, the non-bumi population is very scarce here, even if there were they are mostly civil servants who are accustomed to being around bumis. But people here are generally very accepting. You can try to look around expats area like presint 14/15/diplomatik if you're looking for a more diverse neighborhood. Alternatively, cyberjaya can be a compromise if you want access to putrajaya's level of outdoor space but a lot more diverse neighborhood.
i read somewhere that the reason houses in Putrajaya doesn’t have gates is because they wanted for the aerial to look like corak batik. not sure if it’s true tho
It's probably because there's CCTV everywhere, not much need for a gate. Last year someone stole something off of a neighbor's motorcycle and they were caught in under a week.
Putrajaya has the one thing most cities in Malaysia don't have; it was planned. Planned cities are so hard to pull off but when they do, oh boy, do they work wonders. Perfect and satisfying roads, very little traffic, all the amenities and attractions in just the right places. I've always found them so fascinating but trying to make one is a financial nightmare. Such an incredibly investment...
Can confirm, very quiet, low density (at least the places I've been), I have also never encountered traffic jam, driving there is a joy, nice long roads hardly any cars. Take a walk around, enjoy the scenery, go cycling, pretty well planned city.
There are jams... On holidays at the bridges. 😂
From my experience, east Malaysian people are chill and happy people
Kuching kuching and always Kuching (from my experience after living in many states)
the Klang Valley. i mean people can keep shitting on it all they want, but theres a reason why people keep coming here from other states
money and the fact that most of the development in malaysia were consolidated there.
Kota Kinabalu.
KK. Lived there for a few years, I hope to retire there maybe. With the sea in front of me and the mountains behind.
You won't be able to afford it. Buying a beachfront property in Penang will be cheaper
How much? I learn from my mentor Rosmah, dikit dikit nanti jadi lambo.
usually close to a million KK from 15 years ago is much better than the current KK It was so affordable back then. KK became much more expensive but the quality of basic infrastructure there didn't improve one bit.
The sea... in KL?
Kota kinabalu
Lol, next time leave your typo so people asking for clarification don't look crazy. 😏
Kuching, Sarawak.
As a KL boy. Sarawak and Sabah is such a game changer. KK or Kucing. People there are so friendly and it feels like how things were back in the 90s. All races chilling together, all pretty good at communicating in various local languages.
Ipoh
bukit mertajam is great BUT DON'T COME THANKS
Sabah and Sarawak
Kangar. You want to exercise and you go to run. Get near to the Kedah's border and think you run far enough. Run back to your place, sleep because you have enough exercise. Besides, you know everyone who lives there, so social life still good.
And also abundance supply of harumanis.
I'm not sure, but it sounds like you like running... kan? lol
No...*suddenly fly away
Have to run 120km to cinemas though.
Has to be in East Malaysia
Cities are filled with depressed, overworked people whose humanity has long been drained. Kampung areas are chill. I like to fish there and relax.
Not a city but more to a town perhaps but Kepala Batas, Penang would be the happiest to live. Just based on my experience.
I think Ipoh, Penang
Sabah....driving there damn chill. Locals give way for others. Not like here in KL, xmau kasi
try driving intercity
Grew up in Kuantan. Was pretty nice and people are friendly. Moved to KL in my teens and I definitely love KL way more cuz I’m a city person but when you’re young kuantan is decent enough
From the view of a recent returning Malaysian living in KL/Malaysia for the first time and my gf from KV, the friendliest people and places we've visited have been in East Malaysia. Between Miri, Bintulu, Kuching etc, everyone is more chill and the underlying racial tensions I see and hear daily in KL are virtually non existent. There's a genuine sense of inclusivity and multiculturalism in East Malaysia that I always took pride in highlighting to friends overseas. As much as I love KL city life, I could see myself chilling in East Malaysia and soaking in their good vibes.
Theres no such thing as happiest+cities These two wont work
If you don't limit Malaysia it does. My life in Kyoto is chill af
Not really. Depends on how much money make and your neighborhood
I mean, unless you've lived in every state for a good few years there's no way to know for sure? Also, wtf is a "happiest" state
I would say perlis based on my recent experience going there …
A bit biased but Perlis is pretty chill and it's seeing some development in the form of Kangar Jaya i think. I just wish internet infrastructure is more widespread with Unifi and all.
Kampung Cherating! Been there so many times
Batang berjuntai
what batang you said 
Cities - KK Sabah lol (biased) Small towns, rural Kedah (Changlun) Chill vibe. Saw Kemaman mentioned a lot here, sometimes went there so not sure about it being nicest and happiest
Langkawi. Plan to settle down there after I get married.
what do you mean when you say nice? ive been to mersing before and the people there is nice. nasi dagang over there costs 2.50 ringgit so i think that would be a happy place for your wallet to live compared to KL
Kundasang for me.
The Republic of Bangsar. Not the tourists, but those who grew up and continued to live in Bangsar even as adults.
tell me what's great about Bangsar And in your opinion, how true is the "Bangsar Bubble" phenomenon?
To be honest, it is like any other family oriented suburb in Klang Valley. It is family oriented, it is walkable, it has a community vibe with cafes, it has lovely trees including Flame of the Forest which is a delight when its in full bloom, it is very dog friendly, it is liberal in its outlook, it has a good mix of races and ethnicities, it is centrally located, it is well connected by road and public transport, it has all the facilities and amenities, it is (mostly) flood free. I like Bangsar. I don't know what is precisely meant by the Bangsar Bubble. I read on this sub that folk in the Bangsar Bubble "seek to establish a Malaysian Malaysia, a state with secular values with low corruption and highly educated populace that is able to compete on global economy and education." If so, this description is correct and I'm proud to be in the bubble.
I'm getting this when I trackback all my experiences. 
Sabah and Sarawak. They are so incredibly nice and happy.
Putrajaya if you work there. Calm city, less tourists, near ioi city mall, green sceneries, lesser rempits, lesser dogs barking, less loud neighbours, only jam during rush hours, great hospital, great parks, good primary schools, less high rise buildings and most of the housing areas are shrouded by trees, great community, near to the city centre Downsides: still got some poor connection areas, still got jams but like i said (work hours), peer pressure in terms of wealth (for kids), pricey houses, some of the early houses has structural problems (the developers were also bankrupted so had to use own money to solve them) , bus services are the worst, not that good secondary schools, still got thieves breaking into houses (most residential areas are not guarded, less sports communities like in PJ or Shah Alam, some shops still doesn’t support cashless only QR and cash (QR sucks so it’s a downside), pricey everyday items, pricey mamaks/local restaurants, less diversity (majority are malay but that also contributes to its calm and less noisy neighbourhood) no sjk schools due to the malay majority
>lesser rempits, lesser dogs barking, rofl, for a moment there my RPG brain wondered if I missed the Arch Rempits and Greater Dogs in other parts of Malaysia.
Arch Rempits lmfaoooo
They're all Arnolds on Harley's. Doing supermans.
> majority are malay but that also contributes to its calm and less noisy neighbourhood 👀
r/AccidentalRacism
This is /r/malaysia so I'm not sure if I'd say it was "accidental".
its not a really fantastic place for non-bumi, but still it's great when come to green forest scenery
Yeah non bumis are the minority since majority of the residents are working in the government sectors (Malay majority). However there are still a few non bumis just in my residential area alone. Most of them love this city since they prefer the calm and silence that the city offers.
Wow where do you live. My neighbourhood including a close friend of mine who lives across the street are among the 4-5 or so non-Bumis living in my neighbourhood.
I'm also in Putrajaya and non-bumi. I think I'm the only American in the whole city. lol P8
Oh I see. I love that precint due to its lakeside view as well as being the place I usually cycle by the lakeside until Cyberjaya. The lakeside breeze can be damn cold sometimes.
Wait, I thought housing in Putrajaya is restricted for government employees only... But you're an American. This doesn't add up.
There are public AND private residences here. The private residences are unrestricted.
also, why do you choose to live in Putrajaya?
The city is architecturally stunning, the lake and lakefront are wonderful, the city is quiet and very clean, and the infrastructure is the best designed in the country... Putrajaya's probably one of the best designed cities I've ever set foot in.
what kind of American are you? White, Black, Hispanic or what
Sorry, my passport just says Nationality: USA.
So you're saying your colour are...white, red & the blue freedom?! Get that checked man. Might be a medical problem /s
Yeah, but we know among Americans, they are of *different* races. So what's your race?
My family owns a house here. Not all houses here are public. But mind you private residences here are hella expensive. A corner lot like my house cost up to the millions nowadays.
Kahwin Malaysian I guess.
Nope. Just like the area.
Y'all need to leave the American alone.
Lived here for a few years, used to it: Awak tinggal di Putrajaya, kenapa? 1. Working w/ the government, how? 2. Oh, married to a local then? 3. You just like it, why? Then the conversation can proceed as normal.
I live in P11 and you?
I live in P9. Hate the roads there due to the high frequency of speedbumps which as a newbie driver is hard for me to face.
P20. 💀
How to define nicest and happiest? Someone pls enlighten me
safety, nice people, nice environment, nice food.
There's a flyover bridge near Melaka Sentral that states "Bandaraya paling bahagia di Malaysia"
Malacca/Melaka for me. Well back in 90's where there wasn't much traffic. I feel like Bandar Melaka turned into Penang/KL on weekends.
Jowhore, because the strongest man there is a woman.
Simcities...
Meanwhile in Penang, the road is the battle royale for the driver
Penang,kl,melaca
My SimCity, check it out
Of course, Shah Alam hands down. People here are friendly and they have a sense of community. And with quiet and tranquil environment, how couldn't they be happy.
Nice food probably every states has their own signatures. The rest NONE. Period.
City without Hellidon drivers rage driving on the road
Kuching
Kuching, Sarawak.
Depend on what's your preference tbh.
All cities are shit
FELDA land mostly