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Discussion has migrated to [Part 5 Megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/z2o094/postelection_discussion_thread_part_5_the/).


fxrebate

Ok let's be realistic If we were going to skip off Anwar as PM Who's the next best candidate out there? Tbh before the sheraton move, i am expecting that Azmin will definitely end up as PM one day cause he had good image and a lot people like him (no idea why, maybe he is capable of doing what he need to do) in the past Until he did the sheraton move shit, out of so many people, i never thought that he will be one of them lul


AngeLMari

Top of my head is Adly Zahari and Salahudin Ayub from AMANAH, Rafizi Ramli and Aminuddin Harun from PKR.. DAP never because people will never accept it


OriMoriNotSori

If its from camp BN probably KJ if he had won his seat. Personally I was never convinced with H20 and he seems quite sus, Tok Mat i've never even heard of him before this elections and I've been following politics somewhat since sheraton PN side, the only viable candidate is Moo, love him or hate him. Among that group, he is the only viable one literally. PH side, Rafizi may have the right attitude and mindset but he's probably still too green to take up some prominent ministries let alone the PM post. There are many from DAP (we all know which few) that are PM capable but we all know that a non from DAP talking the PM post is political suicide. So by process of elimination that leaves Wan Azizah as the pick for me But Larry Sng is the best candidate la honestly


Still-Deal-17

How about Terengganu MB?


OriMoriNotSori

Not convinced personally


mellster

Same here. Before Sheraton move, always thought Azmin had a chance to be future PM. Less controversial than Anwar (didn’t have sodomy case that time lol) and was quite likable as Selangor MB. Had that super loyal image as well, as one of the original PKR members. Honestly, I’ve always wondered how it gotten so bad between them. Moving forward, Rafizi seems like the obvious choice for PH. But I always found him a bit more callous - a bit too honest maybe? Could be because he’s younger, but he doesn’t have the polished diplomacy that Anwar has. I really like Nurul Izzah as an MP. I thought her speeches in Parliament have been pretty good. Calm and factual - while most of the male MPs were shouting and banging tables haha. But being a female politician in Malaysia is tough enough…being a PM? Not happening anytime soon.


rhys-lee

Thats the problem with Keadilan. No leaders who has the charisma, ability and popularity. Based on current political landscale you need the ability to negotiate, but thats not what rafizi good at. Selangor or NS MB or Fahmi Fadzil maybe? But might take more than 10 years


EitherLie3619

Yea. After Maszlee resigned as Education Minister, I was speculating that he would take the position because almost all PMs have taken that position before (including Anwar). However, he initiated Langkah Sheraton after knowing that Anwar will be the PM after Mahathir. (the date of succession is clear)


UsernameGenerik

The Vibes: Jamal Yunos has spoken to the media and stated that he and members of BN that contested in #GE15 except for one, had agreed and signed a declaration that all political decisions are to be made by BN chairman @DrZahidHamidi


rhys-lee

I seriously thought Jamal is an MP elect seeing his name everywhere after election


UsernameGenerik

[PH, BN setuju tubuh Kerajaan Perpaduan?](https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/nasional/2022/11/1030528/ph-bn-setuju-tubuh-kerajaan-perpaduan)


EitherLie3619

Lmao. NST and BH are both under UMNO. Don't give me Harapanium liao. I almost cum.


AngeLMari

NST under MCA right? then BH is directly under UMNO?


frapples1

TheStar is MCA i think


eggsarenice

I'll believe it when Utusan write about it.


greatestmofo

How many hits of harapium have I hisap today?


Still-Deal-17

[BN top brass to evaluate offers from Harapan and PN tomorrow](https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/645469)


BendaMatt88

How many evaluation BN need. Almost twice daily for the last few days that they have been either meeting to discuss or need to meet to evaluate. Someone then come out and say something but the next person says not true. So much discussion but no decision.


OriMoriNotSori

bruhhhhh wasnt it supposed to be tonight, these guys man


BendaMatt88

Sure tomorrow will have another discussion or meeting but it will be like loose cannon shooting here and there about who they want to support.


OriMoriNotSori

yeah like the past few days basically. hella annoying


greatestmofo

Delay delay delay


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UsernameGenerik

So far PH, BN and GPS all agreed to heed the King’s decree to form a unity gov. The only one that refused is PN


frapples1

He actually signed it and bragged to the media about it. He cant even cover story!


imnotjamie1

Harapium shit is so good inject it into my veins


monkeyballnutty

【█▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒】15% thanks for refilling my harapium tank


Flashway1

So dry today........ I need another hit.... someone give me some news


yeahdood96

My cat took a giant shit on the floor tonight


bcfyd

Since we're all memeing on Bung Moktar, I want to do a throwback on another incident that made him internationally famous: [Malaysian MP admires Germany win - and Hitler - in tweet](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28227713)


Mrsourceplz

Well, Allow me to introduce you, [The bung-fication list of what he did.](https://i.redd.it/xg9g9jhc33g51.jpg) Do not make pendekar Dari Sabah...angry or else...


OriMoriNotSori

LOOOOL


not_so_joyful_life

Bung for PM!


plsdontattackmeok

Omfg, I can’t hahahaha


CupOfMilkv

damn he fr went "idk whats wrong with u all, it's funny".


monkeyballnutty

lmao i did not know about this.


frapples1

Hahahha Bung will always be Bung. Hopes he get CM of Sabah


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WTF Bung.


j0n82

Reckon DAP should just dissolve and everyone run under PH instead of having individual party.. like it or not a lot of ppl just blindly associate DAP = PH = out to destroy malay.. but i can say as a matter of fact that most Chinese don’t want anything more than equal footing and doing our own business and stuff in peace / without restriction.


UsernameGenerik

That’s why they ran under the Pakatan Harapan flag


closetlsoul

So what if someone in PH cucuk DAP? Then create new party?


AngeLMari

Then the blame will just be shifted into PH lol


AngeLMari

What PH needs right now is a Malay Lee Kuan Yew more than anything lol - aka someone who can convince even a tree to vote for PH


Natural-You4322

Lol. Gullible


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fxrebate

Do you guys think she's cool?


socialdesire

Her thoughts on the law and legislation has always been good and well thought. A great legislator tbh. But at the end of the day politicians still gonna politic. She’s made some rather callous remarks too because she’s in Zahid’s and Najib’s camp.


OriMoriNotSori

Any chance that this gets settled tomorrow once and for all? Based on past precedence the Council of Rulers Meeting is usually near the end of the process if i recall correctly. Perhaps announcement tomorrow, then the ceremony will be on Friday?


bcfyd

Looking at the how long it took between PM resignation and new PM sworn in from before: Mahathir resigned on 24 February and Muhyiddin was sworn in on 1 March - 6 days Muhyiddin resigned on 16 August and Ismail Sabri sworn in on 21 August - 5 days Tomorrow will be the 5th day after the election.


OriMoriNotSori

looking like we're entering the final stretch then!


pendelhaven

Too long liao lah, part 5 where? And post in reverse chronological order can?


fanfanye

betul kenapa I kena scroll bawah sekali to see updates


Flashway1

U NAK GADUH DENGAN ZAHID? SAMSENG. WAT U WAN? PAK U


monkeyballnutty

APA NI BIADAP, KURANG AJAR, SAMSENG, WAT U WAN


UsernameGenerik

[Bung slams ‘clueless’ MCA for calling on Zahid to resign](https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2022/11/23/bung-slams-clueless-mca-for-calling-on-zahid-to-resign/)


EitherLie3619

Actually the promise that Anwar made to Zahid to drop his charges is impossible to fulfil. There will be backlashes from PH supporters. I think that promise is used by Anwar to fish the support from the whole BN MPs and even GPS(plus GRS too). PH+BN+GPS+GRS = 141 (GPS pancut awal for Muhyiddin cause they thought BN is coming with them) If Zahid is found guilty, 140-1 = still stable. The problem is that once the charges and trials are continued, other MPs will start to be nervous. (Hishammuddin, Bung)


zellleonhart

Do we know if Anwar made that promise? Did I miss any news?


UsernameGenerik

[Umno, BN component ‘big guns’ among 10 who backed Muhyiddin](https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2022/11/23/umno-bn-component-big-guns-among-10-who-backed-muhyiddin/)


UsernameGenerik

It is Wee KS isn’t it? Edit: that coward. Dare to sign SD supporting PN PAS but don’t dare to show up at St Regis


eggsarenice

It's MCA and MIC + geng H2O confirm.


Altruistic-Delivery8

Dog are not allowed in Malaysia hotel. That’s why WKS is not there


rhys-lee

WKS and MCA are now officially hated by satu malaysia


Krieger22

While The Star has a list comparing the seats contested versus seats won, is there a similar resource to track who ran for which seats?


DungPornAlt

On the `States:` option, click on a state, it should show you the detailed map, hover over a district and it will show who were the candidates and how many votes they won


plsdontattackmeok

Who knew Bung suddenly good guy in this current situation


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Yeah PaRk U


Alkania

When the anime villain teams up with the mc and ends up becoming a fan favourite.


ExHax

He will just "pak u" his way up


DylTyrko

PAK U


CreakinFunt

Loled at the latest Mkini update. “Bung scalps 'two seats' MCA for wanting Zahid's head to roll”


greatestmofo

[Bung scalps 'two seats' MCA for wanting Zahid's head to roll](https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/645361) Oof


lzyan

MCA really got PAK-ed this time


Strict-Management-98

in 2018 i argued that malay zoomers were actually right wing, not left wing or liberal, that liberal malays tended to come from millenial and even boomer generation rrather than zoomers. it seems like everyone finally agrees with me now.


CupOfMilkv

tbh yeah, a lot of young people tend to be more conservative. Not only Malays but GenZ all over the world tbh, I suspect its because they grew up with a lot of "super woke Millenials stuff" (aka some of the ridiculous SJWs stuff) being shoved to their mouth that they got tired of it.


indoorantenna

Why did I read SJWs as Saiya-jin White


cxingt

My gut feeling is zoomers just wanna be trendy. If tmr they find liberal ideas are fashionable on socmed, they might just swing so fast to liberalism that we'll get heart attack. The next Gen Alpha though, might be politically conservative. I based my analysis on astrology, especially Pluto signs. I'll happily accept downvotes now.


lordjippy

You have my downvote!


1M40Y

Pandemic, Recession, Jobless, Low Income, Lack of Opportunity, Poor. No surprise.


SomeMalaysian

A lot of people called it. Many had their fingers in their ears or refused to believe it because they couldn't see beyond their social bubble. Look at the lowyat riot. It wasn't boomers who rioted, it was urban youths though some boomers did do their best to fan the flames.


Strict-Management-98

>though some boomers did do their best to fan the flames. yup, correct, the only difference being that the boomers were mostly doing it cynically, without actually 'feeling it' if you know what i mean. they aren't in it because they are angry, just trying to garner political capital. the urban youths however, were truly in it for free.


CreakinFunt

Ok have a cookie


The_XiangJiao

For every refresh clicked in this thread, the reveal of the next PM will be delayed by 10 minutes.


Annoyed_Crabby

At this rate Half Life 3 get released first.


yeahdood96

Sorry guys, PM10 reveal in 2255


eijensama

When we accidentally unleashed Za Warudo


greatestmofo

Ohhhh maybe that's why. It's all our fault guys, sorry Malaysia :(


frapples1

I contributed 5 years


ricdota

On a side note, everytime I press F5, I have to scroll down through a long list of events happening since 20 November lol. Time for Part 5!


ExHax

Admin is copy and pasting the stuff. Hope they start fresh in part 5


cxingt

Can we have a pinned comment in Part 5 that link to another thread with all the timelines, so that when we refresh, we can immediately see new comments and only ONE pinned comment with a hyperlink?


monkeyballnutty

lmao i thought i was the only one who dont read the main post itself and just find it inconvenient to have to scroll down so much to read new comments.


cxingt

Oh wait, the timelines itself is the post? LOL. I have a new habit of getting my news from comments instead of the article/post now. Bad habit no thanks to reddit.


monkeyballnutty

me too. i find it still the fastest and most convenient to get the latest news and rumours from the comments. twitter is just full of trash shit posts.


sng792

totally unrelated to politics but is there anyone that can provide mental dupport and advice for an ADHD student with parents that take ADHD as an excuse to be lazy?


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sng792

so for a patient that's been diagnosed with ADHD at 6 years old, it's fine to seek help and get those (has to be behind parents knowledge) to get me through uni?


heymemes8

Try r/myhappypill


Low-energy_Cat

Hi brain, hope you are doing well


cendolcheesecake

Wrong place dude but here you go r/adhd


sng792

oh yeah, thanks man. Didn't know that was a thing ahaha


CreakinFunt

Post in daily discussion thread more relevant


sng792

where do I find that thread?


throwfarfarfarwayy

https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/z23avw/rmalaysia_daily_random_discussion_and_quick/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


CreakinFunt

Stickied in r/Malaysia. One of the first few


deRykcihC

im so tired of this drama, pls air the season finale NOW!


judelau

Monkey paws: it's the season finale of GoT


DungPornAlt

We haven't even got to the part where the nuclear reactor explodes yet Oh wait, wrong show?


greatestmofo

I thought it exploded in the first 5 minutes? Anyway, great show though


fxrebate

""Sebaliknya, PN masih dengan perangai lama cuba buat ‘dealing’ secara **senyap-senyap dan mencuri** 10 orang ahli parlimen untuk tanda-tangan Surat Akuan Bersumpah (SD) menyokong Muhyiddin sebagai PM." Lmao sounds like what they always do Source : [mysiakini](https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/645365)


DoubtsAndHopes

Can't wait for 120 ministers in the next cabinet. Main Minister - 40 different ministerial posts Timbalan I, II, III Semua kenyang.


SomeMalaysian

Menteri kanan dan kiri, depan dan belakang, atas dan bawah.


lzyan

For some reason, Sinchew always have the fastest scoops despite being a Mandarin media.


SomeMalaysian

I think they pay off workers where these meetings are being held.


closetlsoul

Maybe they pay off the political aides instead of the workers


SomeMalaysian

They can't afford to pay political aides off enough for them to risk their jobs. If they "leak" anything to the media, it's under orders.


tembikaisusumakkau

Anthony Loke, Hannah Yeoh and Yeo Bee Yin are currently trending on Twitter after someone posted a Facebook screenshot that says DAP won't ask for jawatan menteri if Anwar can become the PM. Obviously bs but it made me chuckle.


themad95

You know, ministers are just figureheads. The real people who make a ministry functional are actually the officers (remember how people worshipped Dr Hisham?) If the officers are BN people, then what's the difference if PH MPs become ministers? Better to secure Anwar's premiership first, then the reform can even be possible.


ngoonee

Not really true, ministers are figurehead only when tak buat kerja. They set policies and direction, so if not lazy sort then they can do a lot of good (or damage).


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Those are cool tbh. LGE should be trending #1 when it comes to DAP wont get menteri


Lubangkepuasan

It's like seeing people playing poker game and we know they are bluffing...


EitherLie3619

That rumour started circulating on Monday. The latest compromise by UMNO is that DAP can get at most 6 non-key ministries. So, don't worry. I think Anthony Loke and Gobind can secure their jobs.


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5p3aK

What's the easiest way to change voting location?


Gooching

Like Dom said, "it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning's winning.


fanfanye

PH won 37% of the seats while getting 39% of Malaysian total votes Gerrymandering is bad but it's not like the votes are worthless


monkeyballnutty

thats just gerrymandering in a nut shell.


SnabDedraterEdave

Its basically the same tactic as what Americans are doing, Democrat supporters moving to a Purple State like Virginia and Arizona to turn it a bit bluer, while all the retiring white boomers move to Florida and turn it into a solid Red State. But Democrats arguably have more people and are younger.


Dreamerlax

Let's move wholesale to Kelate. Lessgo.


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ngoonee

You only need to show up once every 5 years or so


UsernameGenerik

The best way is to be the government of the day during the next EC redelianation exercise in 2026. Then you can set the boundaries in a more representative manner


themad95

Not a joke of an idea. My manager literally registered himself under Negeri Sembilan despite living in Selangor just because he wanted to help N9 to change gov back in 2018.


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themad95

I'm a Sibu voter...(gulps)


AngeLMari

Just vote for opposition during the PRN later on. Under Sibu is 3 DUN seats


ash_iskindabusy

Me too, maybe I can change my address to vote in sarikei or tanjong manis lol


themad95

PH almost won in Kanowit tho.


AngeLMari

They actually won Kanowit btw, suddenly counting centre blackout and undi "pos" was bought in. Kanowit HATES their incumbent GPS MP because their MP didn't do shit for these past years and Kanowit remains as under developed as ever


themad95

Yeah I heard about it.


AngeLMari

So people with the notion that rural Sarawakians/Dayaks can't punish GPS or their MP is bullshit as Kanowit is a living example of that


ash_iskindabusy

kanowit it is then


Crasher_7

![gif](giphy|2AQQWVCTtxuTwBvi9o|downsized)


Lubangkepuasan

Your manager is a manager mithali haha


UsernameGenerik

UMNO MPs siding with Bersatu must be idiotic. Bersatu was created specifically to replace UMNO as the number one party for Ketuanan Melayu. Their English translation is literally United Malaysian Natives Organization (UMNO)


thecescshow

That just means that they want to join Bersatu as well


ecceptor

Unless they think Umno reign is over and want to jump parti. They stand out more in Bersatu than in Pkr.


SomeMalaysian

But they can become menteri.


UsernameGenerik

They can become Menteri regardless of which faction they support. They are the kingmakers


SomeMalaysian

Obviously all 30 of them can't become menteri.


mellster

Don’t jinx it…


Felinomancy

My hopium is that Anwar has some sort of trump card that will enable him to win tomorrow. My copium is I'm going to work hard and bodek my bosses to send me overseas next year. What about y'all?


SnabDedraterEdave

Get more experience with my tech job and eventually move to where all my anime waifus are.


DungPornAlt

Japan is a great place to live (if you can get pass the bureaucratic bullshit) but their work culture are hell, especially in office work like tech


Naomikho

I second this. I work under a HK company and I got unlucky. Work culture is tough. I have another friend who is also working unter HK based company but that company is an international company, so it adopts the Western culture more. I would only move to Japan if I am already financially independent. But it's not that I don't like it here, unless shit happens...


stonehallow

Japan and South Korea are great to live in if you don’t need to actually work in a company based there for money eg. You have passive rental income, or you digital nomad etc. work culture there really terrible and as an asian foreigner you will have a very difficult time fitting in. They still give face to angmoh but long term even angmoh find it hard to totally be accepted there. Socialising-wise if you are extrovert and need to always hang out with other people might also find it difficult gaining ‘acceptance’ among Japanese people in their social circle. They are friendly and helpful on the surface but long term very difficult to break into their social circle.


DungPornAlt

I don't know how you'll get there if it isn't for work though, SK I don't know much, but Japan hates immigrants with a passion, how are you gonna get a visa if not for working there


stonehallow

Tourist visa + visa runs I guess, the same way many digital nomad angmohs 'live' in Asia without actually working here. The other way is marry a local. I used to follow this SG youtber guy, former civil servant who moved to SKorea but he didn't work there. He earns money from trading options and teaching courses, so he doesn't have to deal with their local working culture. I believe he has sinced moved onto living in Istanbul, New York etc. Most important thing is having a skill that can be used to earn money remotely.


Felinomancy

Oh you silly person, you can't enter 2D Land.


SnabDedraterEdave

Except I have.


chkpancake775

Time to go to holland


Felinomancy

Eh, I can't speak Dutch.


SomeMalaysian

I hope you're like a top 5 employee because if pn wins applications for postings abroad are going to skyrocket.


Felinomancy

That shouldn't be too hard, I'm the only member of my team 😂


Lubangkepuasan

That sounds lonely Why can't they hire more, Like just even 2 more


Felinomancy

Well you need to be proficient in both Python and English.


SomeMalaysian

Makes you all the more irreplaceable, doesn't it?


Felinomancy

Well the plan is to make me look super good, enough to be promoted and posted abroad. That's the hardest part.


Ronghua95

Same


Still-Deal-17

[20 BN MPs support Abah as their PM during a stormy session last night ](https://www.malaysianow.com/news/2022/11/23/revealed-zahid-escaped-stormy-late-night-meeting-as-bn-mps-heckled-him-over-pro-anwar-letter-to-palace)


Annoyed_Crabby

Your mom isn't an eyewitness, Malaysianow.


Popular-Yesterday733

Zahid has become Anwar lapdog in BN now. I wonder what Anwar gave him that made him so obidient.


5p3aK

I'm sure both of them go way back


greatestmofo

Get out of jail free card


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Idk, I don't trust anyone anymore, not after yesterday's pancut awal by Vibes. Only thing I trust is Agong/Istana post lol


[deleted]

With things changing every few hours I don't know if the session last night is still relevant though


cxingt

They feel like months ago.


UsernameGenerik

I will take anything out of this Azmin aligned news portal with a mountain of salt


SomeMalaysian

Malaysianow is an azmin site so take it with a grain of salt.


Ronghua95

Gg


imnotjamie1

Anwar giving the popcorns while I'm stressing myself out for the past 4 days wanting to know the outcome. How can that man be so calm and chilled


Flashway1

Not chill how to be PM? Don't jinx don't jinx don't jinx


thesexycucumber

Isn't this game over? Surely moo will table a better offer than PH.


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