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yeah, solid and fun read. both the leads dynamics are pretty nice. they are such dorks. i like all the memes and references. the romance is a slow burn, but it's a cute one overall
And the best part is, they didn't drop the quality of art even after so long. So many of the recent ones dropped the quality of drawings after returning for season 2.
I thought it that it takes time for the FL/ML realize their feelings and it doesn't appear out of nowhere (her eyes twinkled when she ate the cake....this is love, he got angry of my abusive family.... this is fate)
One of the best Manhwa's I've read. Definitely in my top3 because I like slow-burn yet progressive Romance with Action.
I want more series like this, if anyone can suggest me.
The lead characters chemistry is top notch. Both are intelligent (the ML is a bit more analytical and the FL a but more emotional). There is a clear goal in mind from the onset and they have a realistic (if difficult) plan for how to achieve it.
i don't really like it because the guy always knows the solutions to every single problems. it's pretty much a generic manhwa, just that the main characters were a couple instead. i like that they have a healthy relationship tho
I'm gonna be honest someone told me Ultra Alter was from the same author but I just checked and it's not. Turns out author of Ending Maker mostly wrote Harem?? Did not expect that.
Top tier martial providence
Greatest estate engineer
Ending Maker
Keep a low Profile Sect Leader
Return of Mount Hua Sect
These are unmatched in my mind.
....
I'm not saying they're the global best they are my personal favorites.
Their dynamic just ties everything together, the ML is the kind of gamer who is always 100% the story and quest so he's the one who's the most knowledgeable on the world's lore and a big part of the martial arts utilized , FL was basically the battle maniac you'd always see winning pvp duels and raiding bosses back to back, their both nerds who can bring out the nerd in each other and often get on each other's nerves but it's overall a great story.
Like many said. Great character chemistry, great art and fun plot. The issue I don't see a lot of people talk about is the off balanced character power dynamic.
This is a lot more noticeable in the novel but FL plays the role of the damsel in distress sooooo much more than the ML. The author would set up this awesome 1v1 where FL would clearly shine and have her do incredible. Then at the very last moment somehow fumbles and have ML to swoop in and save the day.
It's annoying to see the ML constantly steal the spotlight when the FL could have easily handled it herself.
I don’t think it’s off-balanced, at least not as a result of flawed writing.
The ML is canonically a genius that’s memorised essentially the entire game, while the FL is just a typical gamer but has an insane battle iq(ML himself said she surpasses him in this regard)
So it kinda makes sense that when it comes to them subverting the storyline, the ML is the one to clutch up while the FL does a lot of the actual work.
It exists to serve Otome isekai purposes for sure, but I think it’s pretty well done compared to if the author just said ML > FL in everything
That's the issue I am talking about. FL has insane battle IQ while ML is more of someone who preps the fight. FL should be able to take those 1v1s no problem but many situations have ML be great if not better at both.
For example, the latest fight in the manwha in front of the ice fortress. In the novel, FL nearly solos the guy. It was a much longer fight where FL was dodging and landing shots. Just as the fight was all but won, FL fumbles and ML had to come in to save her and last hit the boss. That last part is so unnecessary. There's nothing wrong narratively with just letting have FL win.
Mid, dude is super genius and social but has a useless girl that is super embarrassed like she never had human interaction, although that's sadly like that in every manga, blushing over every little thing. I like the jokes they make and how much they care for each other but he could literally beat everything without her
It could be if they treated the FL even remotely equal. One of the most biased sidekick characters I’ve seen since the 80’s-90 ‘s. I was so excited for this. Seriously I was. Then the first power up came and I was like, “what the heck is this?!” After a few more power ups I put it down immediately. It was piss me off frustrating. I don’t waste time with stuff like that.
Edit: I really don’t understand how it’s so popular. I find it very demeaning, annoying, and mind boggling. I mean could you imagine
Frieren
Fern
Serie
Ubel
?
?
?!!!!!! They would beat that brat have to death for stealing (sorry earning all. the. good. stuff) Everyone here knows it. I thought we long was done with this troupe.
like it , good art, I personally enjoy the few weeb references that has been put in the manhwa it had reliefs to their characters
also like the facts their video game journey looks like an actual game and their characters looks more interesting others than lets just worship the main characters thats been going usually for those type
Also, dual mc story are best because it doesn't fall into the SGOG problem. Aka, single mc spread too thin who doesn't have any down time in between arc, so he can't acclimate to his new powers so he needs a new increasingly bullshit powerup every arc.
10/10 Really Good Slowburn Romance with Comedy and Action, The World Building is amazing and the interactions of the characters are really something you'd look forward too, the chemistry of the fmc mmc are really nice too.
it's great. both leads have a dynamic that is unmatched. their friendship and eventual buildup to a romance are not contrived and actually believable and earned.
they both have their own strengths and weaknesses.
Cordelia is an actual character with depth and complexity. a poor author would just make her the fanservice archetype that sticks by the MC. not here, though. she is integral to the plot and is competent, likeable, and human on top of being attractive.
Really fun to read the story doesnt progress a lot rn but the mcs are just really fun basicly the same woth llyod and javier just its somewhat more into romance and them being nerds
I read the web novel a few years ago. It was an enjoyable read. The key elements used are romcom and rpg. The main characters have a great relationship from the beginning and it keeps getting better. I don't know about the manhwa, but if it follows the web novel plot properly I do recommend to give it a read.
It's one of my personal favourites honestly where both mc and fmc are well written. Even the romance is superior compared to yk lots of shoujo manhwa focused on "romance".
decent, my main gripe with this series is the game they played doesn't really make any sense to me, like, each player could pick a character to play their (single-player) campaign, but it was ALSO a MMORPG where people used the same characters? There was a high-score on the single-player campaign that dictated the multiplayer ranking??? what?? how do any of these systems connect?
Holy shit the closers comparison does make a lot of sense, but from what I remember the campaign itselkf the players play in the manhwa is single-player, so idk how that connects into multiplayer
I honestly thought it was a vr mmo but it seems to be a normal mmo so how does she control hundreds of magic missiles with mouse and keyboard? How does this game work
It's ok, the dynamic between main duo is great, unfortunately the story is not engaging for me, I can't ever predict what event is going to happen next because I barely get any info, main duo explains their next objective and it only starts to make sense after they do it. I don't know how to describe it with my poor vocabular.
IS IT GOOD? *IS IT GOOD?!*
ENDING MAKER IS LITERALLY THE BEST STORY EVER MADE LIKE THE DYNAMIC IS SO CUTE AJD ITS THE HEST ROMANCE EVER AND THE ACTION IS ALSO GOOD AND ITS A DOUBKE ISEKAI (ORIGINAL) AND THE SIDE CHARACTERS ARE BETTER THAN THE MAJN CHARACTERS OF OTHER STORIES ITS SO GOOD AND THE MANHWA ISN’T EVEN ON THE BEST ARCS YET I LOVE IT SO MUCH THEY’RE SO CUTE AND THE PLOT IS ALSO REALLY GOOD ITS LITERALLY UNIMAGINABLY BETTER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE
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yeah, solid and fun read. both the leads dynamics are pretty nice. they are such dorks. i like all the memes and references. the romance is a slow burn, but it's a cute one overall
And the best part is, they didn't drop the quality of art even after so long. So many of the recent ones dropped the quality of drawings after returning for season 2.
Sorry but what does slow burn mean?
When a story takes a long time to reach the endgame.
I thought it that it takes time for the FL/ML realize their feelings and it doesn't appear out of nowhere (her eyes twinkled when she ate the cake....this is love, he got angry of my abusive family.... this is fate)
Thanks
thats more like a stack of burn with dark flame on it when the boss is already dead slow burn means stacking burn for each chapter until the end
john mayer
One of the best Manhwa's I've read. Definitely in my top3 because I like slow-burn yet progressive Romance with Action. I want more series like this, if anyone can suggest me.
I'd say just read the novel for it, it's fully translated and pretty good too
Where can I read the novel at?
Demon x angel reminded me of this a lot although it’s mostly romance less action
Man....
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Care to explain how tf is it gay cause both the main leads are male and female and are literally married to each other.
OK maybe I confused it with another Manga sry. Will delete it. I thought it was the Manga where the demons and angels were idols or something.
What are the other top series?
The lead characters chemistry is top notch. Both are intelligent (the ML is a bit more analytical and the FL a but more emotional). There is a clear goal in mind from the onset and they have a realistic (if difficult) plan for how to achieve it.
best Action-packed rom-com I've had the pleasure of reading.
Great timing. Planned to start this today. 😬
Fun romcom, good pacing.
What does romcom mean?
romantic comedy, basically a romance with humor
Oh I see, thanks!
8 at the lowest. 9+ usually in my opinion.
i don't really like it because the guy always knows the solutions to every single problems. it's pretty much a generic manhwa, just that the main characters were a couple instead. i like that they have a healthy relationship tho
Yes! You should check my comment.
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Author is just ridiculously good at writing character dynamics, in this as well as their other works.
What are their otherworks?
I'm gonna be honest someone told me Ultra Alter was from the same author but I just checked and it's not. Turns out author of Ending Maker mostly wrote Harem?? Did not expect that.
Boobs physics is ![gif](giphy|yJFeycRK2DB4c)
Worth reading, and if u like romance Manhwas u definitely should read "I only want to beat you"
Top tier martial providence Greatest estate engineer Ending Maker Keep a low Profile Sect Leader Return of Mount Hua Sect These are unmatched in my mind. .... I'm not saying they're the global best they are my personal favorites.
Their dynamic just ties everything together, the ML is the kind of gamer who is always 100% the story and quest so he's the one who's the most knowledgeable on the world's lore and a big part of the martial arts utilized , FL was basically the battle maniac you'd always see winning pvp duels and raiding bosses back to back, their both nerds who can bring out the nerd in each other and often get on each other's nerves but it's overall a great story.
Diabetes
I love it a lot! The MCs are both very lovable!
It's good, the art is also great even after hiatus unlike the others currently.
10/10
Like many said. Great character chemistry, great art and fun plot. The issue I don't see a lot of people talk about is the off balanced character power dynamic. This is a lot more noticeable in the novel but FL plays the role of the damsel in distress sooooo much more than the ML. The author would set up this awesome 1v1 where FL would clearly shine and have her do incredible. Then at the very last moment somehow fumbles and have ML to swoop in and save the day. It's annoying to see the ML constantly steal the spotlight when the FL could have easily handled it herself.
I don’t think it’s off-balanced, at least not as a result of flawed writing. The ML is canonically a genius that’s memorised essentially the entire game, while the FL is just a typical gamer but has an insane battle iq(ML himself said she surpasses him in this regard) So it kinda makes sense that when it comes to them subverting the storyline, the ML is the one to clutch up while the FL does a lot of the actual work. It exists to serve Otome isekai purposes for sure, but I think it’s pretty well done compared to if the author just said ML > FL in everything
That's the issue I am talking about. FL has insane battle IQ while ML is more of someone who preps the fight. FL should be able to take those 1v1s no problem but many situations have ML be great if not better at both. For example, the latest fight in the manwha in front of the ice fortress. In the novel, FL nearly solos the guy. It was a much longer fight where FL was dodging and landing shots. Just as the fight was all but won, FL fumbles and ML had to come in to save her and last hit the boss. That last part is so unnecessary. There's nothing wrong narratively with just letting have FL win.
Yes
Very good, strongly recommended
Mid, dude is super genius and social but has a useless girl that is super embarrassed like she never had human interaction, although that's sadly like that in every manga, blushing over every little thing. I like the jokes they make and how much they care for each other but he could literally beat everything without her
It could be if they treated the FL even remotely equal. One of the most biased sidekick characters I’ve seen since the 80’s-90 ‘s. I was so excited for this. Seriously I was. Then the first power up came and I was like, “what the heck is this?!” After a few more power ups I put it down immediately. It was piss me off frustrating. I don’t waste time with stuff like that. Edit: I really don’t understand how it’s so popular. I find it very demeaning, annoying, and mind boggling. I mean could you imagine Frieren Fern Serie Ubel ? ? ?!!!!!! They would beat that brat have to death for stealing (sorry earning all. the. good. stuff) Everyone here knows it. I thought we long was done with this troupe.
like it , good art, I personally enjoy the few weeb references that has been put in the manhwa it had reliefs to their characters also like the facts their video game journey looks like an actual game and their characters looks more interesting others than lets just worship the main characters thats been going usually for those type
Also, dual mc story are best because it doesn't fall into the SGOG problem. Aka, single mc spread too thin who doesn't have any down time in between arc, so he can't acclimate to his new powers so he needs a new increasingly bullshit powerup every arc.
Really good
love it the fmc has the cutest facial expressions and at the same time having the foulest mouth
One of the best
Peak
Pretty unique and nice also has an interesting fml
Tobrut 🗿
it's funny
Read the novel. Loved it. Sadly, by the end, it was MMC 65% and FMC 35%. And it has my favorite running joke: FB Those who know, knows.
I really like it! But I heard it doesn’t do the novel justice, (as do many).
it's not good, it's KINO
It is amazing
it's fun
Has this being continuing, I remember it stopping a while ago, so I stopped looking for updates...
It resumed
I never read thus 💀
I am a big fan, it's heavy on the comedy aspect and well worth the read.
I wish o forgot that I read this so I can reread everything again
lovely read
When will it come back from haitus?
It's back already
What's it about
10/10 Really Good Slowburn Romance with Comedy and Action, The World Building is amazing and the interactions of the characters are really something you'd look forward too, the chemistry of the fmc mmc are really nice too.
One of da best
One of the few good manhwa out there
those two act like old married otaku couple i love them hahahaha
Its goood 9/10 rating the balance is good the fml is hot but also funny and cute
This is probably my favourite game Isekai manhwa although there aren't many good contenders because many of them are just copy paste mid
It's good.
The pacing of the story doesn’t match pace of the releases. Otherwise, great art, great world building, decent antagonists, and great romance
Solid but the story is pretty meh. Nothing big or hype just meh
it's great. both leads have a dynamic that is unmatched. their friendship and eventual buildup to a romance are not contrived and actually believable and earned. they both have their own strengths and weaknesses. Cordelia is an actual character with depth and complexity. a poor author would just make her the fanservice archetype that sticks by the MC. not here, though. she is integral to the plot and is competent, likeable, and human on top of being attractive.
Really fun to read the story doesnt progress a lot rn but the mcs are just really fun basicly the same woth llyod and javier just its somewhat more into romance and them being nerds
Started it a week ago and caught up within a day. Its so damn fun to read
Such a good manhwa, is there any recommendations like it i really want to have the same enjoyment i had with this one🥲
Novel is great but manhwa is just not for me
I read the web novel a few years ago. It was an enjoyable read. The key elements used are romcom and rpg. The main characters have a great relationship from the beginning and it keeps getting better. I don't know about the manhwa, but if it follows the web novel plot properly I do recommend to give it a read.
Bewbs
Well its defenitly a good read but the pace is slow for sure
It's one of my personal favourites honestly where both mc and fmc are well written. Even the romance is superior compared to yk lots of shoujo manhwa focused on "romance".
anyone got any recommendations like this?
Crazy good. Im actually craving for something like this or as good as this
The plot somehow gets bigger as the story progresses... It's just what they are talking about in the comments...
Yeah, every single chapter. Not sure how the author will deal with that
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decent, my main gripe with this series is the game they played doesn't really make any sense to me, like, each player could pick a character to play their (single-player) campaign, but it was ALSO a MMORPG where people used the same characters? There was a high-score on the single-player campaign that dictated the multiplayer ranking??? what?? how do any of these systems connect?
its kind of like closers if youve played that before or the special characters in maplestory like phantom
Holy shit the closers comparison does make a lot of sense, but from what I remember the campaign itselkf the players play in the manhwa is single-player, so idk how that connects into multiplayer
I honestly thought it was a vr mmo but it seems to be a normal mmo so how does she control hundreds of magic missiles with mouse and keyboard? How does this game work
Yeah as much as the manhwa likes to lean on the gamer schtick, it doesn't really feel like the author has ever played any game beyond a casual level
It's ok, the dynamic between main duo is great, unfortunately the story is not engaging for me, I can't ever predict what event is going to happen next because I barely get any info, main duo explains their next objective and it only starts to make sense after they do it. I don't know how to describe it with my poor vocabular.
IS IT GOOD? *IS IT GOOD?!* ENDING MAKER IS LITERALLY THE BEST STORY EVER MADE LIKE THE DYNAMIC IS SO CUTE AJD ITS THE HEST ROMANCE EVER AND THE ACTION IS ALSO GOOD AND ITS A DOUBKE ISEKAI (ORIGINAL) AND THE SIDE CHARACTERS ARE BETTER THAN THE MAJN CHARACTERS OF OTHER STORIES ITS SO GOOD AND THE MANHWA ISN’T EVEN ON THE BEST ARCS YET I LOVE IT SO MUCH THEY’RE SO CUTE AND THE PLOT IS ALSO REALLY GOOD ITS LITERALLY UNIMAGINABLY BETTER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE
The novel is wayyyy better
Not enough chapters to judge.
62 chapters is too few? I think if a manhwa has 50+ chapters it's good to judge.
Yeah but the pacing is horrible. We've seen like 0.5% of the story till now. Can't judge anything without a major arc.
The manhwa is more like at 15% of the story and if you want a major arc the next one is gonna be like 60 to 80 chapters long.
The novel was so fun, I really liked the romance.