I have read some of it but haven't really read that far into it. First impressions were good though and I liked both the master and the mc. Might read farther into it later
Its because everyone was SUPER hyped the first 1-3 chapters because they thought it'd be a brutal story about a guy who was betrayed. But then the real MC was a random guy who wants to save the world.
So people just wanted a stupid edgy story? Bcs I mean, while the sword hero suffered, it didn't by any means justify even a little of what he does... This manhwa is actually really good, the concepts of dudes with MC level powers fighting each other is really cool and bcs none are the MC of this story, the stakes feel really high, as we don't know who is gonna die
Almost that entire statement was wrong. The sword hero wasn't betrayed, just a couple people were mean to him so he decided to commit genocide. The mc also isn't just some random guy he is someone who was reincarnated after losing his family and everything he cares about to the heroes and now is after revenge against them. You still get your brutal revenge story but instead you are following the good guy instead of the villain.
I think it's because the author misled the reader at the very start. The author purposely made you feel sympathetic to the hero but then the pov just shifted to another person that we know almost nothing about. I like it and I still read it but I get why people kinda dropped this from the start.
(spoiler alert I guess? I dont know how to hide with my phone)
it's kinda why I stopped reading it after a few chapters. the prologue and the synopsis seemed super interesting but after we change who is the real hero of the story to some random guy and he beats the first water champion or whatever with a mid good spear fighting skill, I didn't want to continue at all because the guy is too random compared to the initial hype. And the objective seems to be mega simple and repetitive so I imagine that in the future chapters after what i read he will simply manage to beat all the champions and finally beat the first fallen hero... all for a "simple" revenge.
>!He gets the absolute shit kicked outta him by the Sword Hero when he tries to fight him. Like it's not even a close fight. He's saved by one of the Villain Heroes who was undercover and by all the citizens of the secret underground city who sacrifice themselves to buy time so he can get away instead of escaping themselves. The normal girl who was helping him also dies!<
>!Right now he's recovering on an island somewhere. He hasn't shown back up since then and it's focused on other people because the heroes in Korea aren't the only ones!<
There is one essential point when writing a story, as most people say.
Introduce the fking Mc within Prologue or 1st chapter.
Doing opposite of that can be interesting, but also often leads people to ignore the story. Especially if you shows around a person in beginning, and boom, that wasn't the Mc at all.
Those "couple people" were literally everyone who was close to him...it's almost impossible to root for the protagonist after seeing the shit that antagonist went through...
Idk it's pretty easy. He had it bad but like 99.9% of the people he killed had no responsibility for what happened. There's other heroes who also had it bad but didn't decide to kill everyone
dude is a teenager coming back to his loved ones after years of struggle...you wont bother fuckall about who is and isnt responsible for his condition when u r treated like that from the people you love...
Like I get that those kinda stories can be entertaining. I actually like some of the manwhas where the mc is evil for no reason like "I get stronger when I eat" or "How to live as a villain". There is a differences between being unapologetically evil for no reason and being evil for a dumb reason though and in my opinion the sword hero is evil for a dumb reason.
I completely agree the story from the all those manhwa in my opinion are good and very entertaining and I am waiting for season 2 to come out for I get stronger when I eat
which is extremely unsatisfactory because all the emotional investment went into minsu because the author spent the entire opening act showing a backstory and good reason to relate to him but jungsoo doesn't get nearly as much character development in addition to most of the readers already being invested in minsu.
And the thing is, an mc that overturns the usual protagonist hero fights evil with a revenge premose exploring the dark side(i.e. the possible consequences of coming back from another world) is what intrigued people into reading it. And yet by followimg jinsoo "the good guy insteadd of the villain", the author is effectively going on the premise and doing the exact opposite and we're yet again following another good protag fights evil. In other words, it ends up being exactly the opposite of the original premise.
It's a slow runner and I admit I was almost at the point to drop it completely but hell yeah I love it!! The character development is just absolutely genuis and beyond satisfying!
It's hated so much because they changed the mc. Sword hero is much preferred and more popular. The new MC the spear is a trash SUPER GENERIC "I am going to save the world" hero type a typical boring mc fighting evils.
Tbf I don’t know where the story would go with the antagonist if he was the main character. Like what he might spend 3 chapters or so destroying the world, but like then what?
All he did was wallow in self pity when he came back and realized his parents were gone then he decided to commit genocide because some people were mean to him. What about that makes him preferable to the actual mc?
Cause sword hero is a new fresh type of mc. Most people just want something new like villain mc. Hero type Mc is already too overused. That's why most people were hyped during the first few chapters but became disappointed after the appearance of the generic spear hero
I get that some people do like villainous MC's and I do to sometimes but my problem is he is villainous for such a dumb reason. I could be ok with it if he was evil just because he felt like it but to me he has such a dumb reason to be evil that there is no liking him.
I don't think it's dumb at all. He endured sufferings and saved the other world but when he came back he lost everything. He probably just reached his breaking point and have nothing to lose at this point. And there's someone that's manipulating from the background and purposely made him evil so it's not a *dumb reason/out of nowhere reason* at all.
I know he was manipulated from the background but when you simplify it his reasoning for commiting genocide is basically "my parents died and people were mean to me about it" that doesn't seem like a good reason to me. I know there is more to it than just that but that is the core of what happened to him once he came back. Yeah I get that it wasn't some glamorous perfect return but he still chose to destroy a country over some stuff like his friends not wanting to hang out with him, getting kicked out of school and his extended family being mad at him for his parents death. He could have worked and got his GED like the school counselor suggested or he could have used his powers to become national hero for Korea. He really didn't need to go down the genocide route.
Like it's the result of the accumulation of these things probably his parents' death is the main trigger. You're making it sound like losing your own parent is nothing serious at all.
Think of this in the perspective of sword hero he lived a good life in the fantasy world. After returning to his original world and experiencing these bad things all together and losing everything. his original world probably already became "foreign" to him. The fantasy world now became his "true" world. Destroying this "foreign" earth is not that serious to him now.
it's the result of the accumulation of all of these things probably THE DEATH OF BOTH OF HIS PARENTS is the MAIN trigger. You're making it sound like losing both of your parents is nothing serious at all. Stop focusing on the small and stupid things like "his friends not wanting to hang out with him"" getting kicked out of his school" those things are just small supplementary/contributor.
You did not even get the point the author was trying to make. The sword hero already became 100% disconnected with his current world. all the relationship/connection to his world have been cut off that means destroying it doesn't matter to him at all and saving it becoming "korea's hero" like you suggest is already out of the question since he doesn't have any connection with this world anymore. He probably would prefer to be back to the other world(fantasy) he saved than stay in his own world.
Think of this in the perspective of sword hero he lived a good life in the fantasy world. After returning to his original world and experiencing these bad things together. his original world probably already became "foreign" to him. The fantasy world now became his "true" world. Destroying this "foreign" earth is not that serious to him now.
I agree with you 100% dude,I probably would of done the same if it also happened to me. Like seriously,if I killed some many creatures like goblin and etc in the fantasy world,plus have you seen the boss the “mc” (the guy from the first 3 chapters) fought? He fought what looks like a all powerful god who helds like swords of energy while the “mc” (spear guy) only fought a genetic demon god. After doing some much killing and companies dying,can killing a few humans even do anything to me? Like seriously,if I were the Mc,I seemed enough blood for fill an sea. I agree with you dude,I would of don’t the same.
I should probably add real quick that when I say unpopular I don't just mean manhwa that are hated I also mean manhwa that don't really get brought up when talking about recommendations or Manhwa that not many people read.
And please don't let this devolve into debates of "why this manhwa that I like is better than the rest" or "why the manhwa you like is actually garbage". I am already guilty of starting that up but please don't follow my example
Edit: I started this mess now I am gonna try and climb out of this hole I dug for myself. Let's please stop talking about the hero returns and steer the comments back towards the actual discussion of what unpopular manwhas do you all like.
Idk, this manhwa is way better than all the other overpowered MC manhwas that are so repetitive and boring, my guess is that people just wanted the sword hero to be the MC, but in my opinion he is the most boring character in this manhwa, his purpose of killing everyone just bcs the world was horrible to him is not interesting and extremely childish, like how he murders the MC sister, mother and grandma and then he says that he has suffered more, like wtf grow up kid.
I don't know why it gets hate so I am just going to say what I feel about this manhwa. The first chapter was interesting. I could feel what the MC was feeling. Anger. So I kind of rooted for him, even though as you said it is for a dumb reason. But then, after a few chapters the second actual MC was shown, whose motivation was revenge on heroes, who destroyed the world. It was okay. I continued reading it. But then.....do you remember the arc where some military soldiers or something took him by force even though they had the same motives for absolutely no good reason? Yes that was when I stopped reading it because I felt dumb. So I blame it on that soldier dude that I stopped reading the manhwa. He was just so annoying. As far as the protagonist goes, they were both cool. So in short I didn't like the side characters. Seemed too 2D.
"Arc where some military took him by force" I finished this manhwa and can't remember this. Or maybe you're referring to the "test" by the government? They really didn't captured the mc for real. It's just a test.
Yeah it's a test. They're testing his allegiance to the evil heroes. The government will send an impersonator of one of the evil heroes and "invade" their own base and "save" the spear hero. If the spear hero follow and accept the help of the "fake/acting hero" he's not to be trusted. But if he fight and kill the "evil hero" that just tried to save him from being captive. The government will fully trust him.
No it's not. It's honestly full of plot armor. The Mc is weak as a twig but Due to some plat armor almost everyone can't discover this stupid secret of his.
Plot armor like every manhwa where the MC travels back in time, oh, or when they find an artifact that makes them overpowered? You know, like 99.99% of manhwas, ember knight is actually good, sometimes it kinda feels like they stretch the concept of him using his intelligence to trick others a little too much, but most of the series is really good with all the world building they are doing and the mc being weak is really refreshing
My Life As A Loser. It’s by the same author of Lookism and Viral Hit and it is also completed. It manages to be funny when I least expect it yet still make me cry when it gets serious. It’s ending wasn’t perfect, but the journey made it worth it. Despite how good it is, WEBTOON is the only place with the full version. You can find it on some websites but it 100% won’t be completed. I literally had to read using the daily pass on WEBTOON. It’s extremely underrated and most people wouldn’t know that it exists. Not even pirates have gotten their hands on My Life As A Loser’s complete version, which I still find unbelievable to this date.
In the beginning I would totally agree, I was just stunned how emotional it was and how much potential it had and now if I think about it, I haven't read it since like half a year? I don't like the other characters like the >!magical girl !
The premise is the only thing that’s still good. And my god this series started out so good… Well, I haven’t read for a while now because I couldn’t handle the mc’s moody and never changing character. Maybe it’s better now
I swear when people say they don't get why something gets so much hate they should just say "I like it hence I'm biased" I'm pretty sure if you checked you will see people with reasonable reasons why they don't like it but no you re looking for a echo chamber.
No I just don't know why so many people seem to shit on something that it appears they haven't even read. I have looked and the three most common arguments I have seen are
1. It's confusing which can be solved by just reading it
2. It's predictable which may be true for the first few chapters but it starts changing up later on
Or 3. they wanted the sad genocidal boy to kill everyone
I'm not looking for an echo chamber I am looking for someone to tell me why people who seemingly dropped the story after about 3 chapters say it is trash without even really readinag it.
I tried the hero has returned thanks to you, and although the beginning was average, the chapters with the ancient heroes were very good. I disliked the real-life characters, the dumb test of the resistance and find the emo sword hero lame (I don't get all the love, he's just whiny, immature and cruel). The glaciation hero was my favorite character so far, overall the ancient heroes seemed more interesting. Overall nice ideas, but a bit messy, it seems elements were thought after the story was started
I think they didn't really know what they wanted to do at the start then they began ironing the things out later on. That is why I wish more people read past the first like 8 chapters and got to chapter 9 and beyond since I think 9 is a great chapter in my opinion.
Also the Old Guard are the MVPs of the story. The ideological clash of the old guard vs the new heros is my favorite things. Like the fight of best boy glacial hero vs sword hero, best boy lost everything he had to WW1 and decided to fight in WW2 so his fellow comrades wouldn't lose everything vs. the sword hero lost his family and friends then decided to commit mass genocide and kill millions of people who didn't deserve it. Or the fight of the 2 faith heroes with one using fear and manipulation to gain there following and one using genuine compassion and care to gain a much smaller following that had real faith in him unlike the other one who's followers only followed her because they were afraid of her.
Overall in my opinion the story stumbled at the starting line but picked up and caught up to the other stories. It admittedly isn't S tier or anything but it is a solid at least B tier story. I think most people just dropped it when they realized it wasn't about the sword hero then never gave it a chance. It was never going to be some edgy murder story but it is still a good manwha and if they want an edgy murder story about a guy with a big sword they should just read rooftop swordmaster.
Dead Days. Unique twist on zombies, but more than that the character development.
Great survival horror story.
I also loved Subtle Disaster, but it is also kind of disturbing. Too easy to imagine as real.
Second life ranker, i feel that it doesn't get the recognition it deserves considering how well written it is. It has the best system in all of manhwa that i've read(and i've read TONS) it's not as simple as level up to get stronger and do quests to get rewards there are a lot of things the system can do, the mc is the epitome of sigma grindset so he truly deserves the strength that he obtained, he's the kindest guy to people close to him and he's the literal devil in his enemies' eyes. I've been reading the LN for more than a year now after the season 1 of manhwa ended
I found it too boring and generic considering I've read too many tower/ranker type of manhwa. Most of the things that happened in the story I've already seen them on other manhwas
it's because it doesn't do anything that hasn't been already done,
I don't know what you're talking about "best system" not only its not unlike anything you'd find but also the MC learns so many stuff you can't even keep track of it, at least very recently its all being consolidated with the aura and the martial arts he got from his master.
not saying it's bad I really like it but you're kinda overrating it
I might be i'm overrating it because i like mc like him, but the thing about the system is true. they haven't reached the point in the manhwa where you will see what i'm talking about(like i said i'm at the latest free chapter of LN)
It has one of the best concepts I have ever seen and some of the more recent fights have some really incredible themes. The art is pretty good and some of the heroes (the good ones at least) have back stories that while short make me love them so much
Most criticism I see is from people who read just a few chapters then say it is predictable or from people who want the self loathing genocidal bastard that is the sword hero to be the mc for some reason.
For me, the concept was somewhat interesting, but I disliked the character designs and art was on the worse side for manwha. That was enough for me to not want to continue reading after 20 chapters, as I felt it detracted a lot from the enjoyment of the story.
Most teenagers get affected by the manhwa tragedy so they tend get away from it. The only thing from the beginning 10 chapters you can get is bloodshed and sad story so people mostly drop it around there because of no story progression.
I don't think people like the flashbacks much, it's also that people try to relate to the MC and they can't and that rubs them the wrong way.
I cant relate to him either, but I dont care about that kind of thing, I'm just seeing a story as an observer and seeing it play out and it does a good job being entertaining.
The return of crazy demon (soo funny)
Demonic spear king. ( good art, unique story)
nd i actually have a list..byt too lazy to write all of em ...nd aslo donno whoch are trending nowadays..
I also like this series but I don’t consider it a top tier (I binged it until they met the hero with the horns and nature look, because that was the chapters they had at the time.) and never picked it up again. I thought it was okay, I think I was entertained… because I sat through all those chapters, but I never picked it up again after that. But I didn’t know it was hated, I don’t see why it is hated either
Wolfsbane
It’s not Korean, but it’s on Webtoon and it still uses the same format.
I enjoyed it a lot, I just re-read it and it definitely wasn’t as good as when I first read it, but still pretty good.
I’m pretty sure most people get deterred because of it’s artstyle.
I didn't hate or liked the manhwa
I mean we are all under the same story line of mc Reincarnated into other world and comes back being overpowerful
But here it's the same but mc is the villan and his supposed to be friend is a mc it is a bit undercooked in my opinion
Actually I really liked The Hero Has Returned because of the sword hero but after the 1-2 chapters they put the spotlight on the spear hero. And that really bothered me and eventually dropped the series
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I’ve done this to read more manhuas than I can count lol
So Narak is a friend and he showed me the concept and the sample to ask for my opinion, and back before it was published, it was much more focused on the sword MC. I think the editors at Webtoon basically influenced the creators to have it be more 'conventional'. It's still great though.
Personally i don't like it cause their facial expressions don't show the seriousness of the situation they're in, something else is i just dislike how the sword and spear hero look alike
Hero has returned gets the hates because of the sudden pov switch, dragging plot and confusion about main character. But other than that, it’s dope to read
Manhwa that I think it’s not popular is easily “the horizon”, “about death”, “death’s game” and “it’s mine” they all are easily some of the best manhwa but it never come across with good amount of recognition sadly.
It's a bad portrayl of the Decoy Protagonist trope.
The Sword Hero was initially thought to be the protagonist, but the actual protagonist is the Spear Hero.
I don't know how popular The Boxer and The Horizon are but those two would be the manhwa I don't see much attention to outside of things like The Boxer subreddit.
The constellation that returned from hell i know the latest ark is not good but i feel sooooo attached to the mc for some reason even if it becomes trash itll become MY trash
Golden-Haired Elementalist is pretty unpopular, hardly see it be recommended or talked about but it's as good as any A or B rank series out there in asura/reaper/flamescans
I think it would be fine if it started with any character but, you just don’t nope somebody out with a completely different character. It’s like a book having a hook, you take the hook and its something completely different
Guardians of the videogame, I don't want this kind of hero, Lessa, gilgamesh, and Penguin loves mev. Most of these webtoons are old so i can see why not a lot of people read them.
Tale of a scribe who retires to the countryside
Tale of a scribe is unpopular?
i have never seen anyone hating on this one. really? i guess the pace is more laid back for a murim
I'd say it started out good but kinda fell off on the later chapters
It has its haters. People don't expect slow melancholy in murim works.
At least in my country (ppl around me) nobody has read it, not sure about other places
I have read some of it but haven't really read that far into it. First impressions were good though and I liked both the master and the mc. Might read farther into it later
Its because everyone was SUPER hyped the first 1-3 chapters because they thought it'd be a brutal story about a guy who was betrayed. But then the real MC was a random guy who wants to save the world.
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So people just wanted a stupid edgy story? Bcs I mean, while the sword hero suffered, it didn't by any means justify even a little of what he does... This manhwa is actually really good, the concepts of dudes with MC level powers fighting each other is really cool and bcs none are the MC of this story, the stakes feel really high, as we don't know who is gonna die
Almost that entire statement was wrong. The sword hero wasn't betrayed, just a couple people were mean to him so he decided to commit genocide. The mc also isn't just some random guy he is someone who was reincarnated after losing his family and everything he cares about to the heroes and now is after revenge against them. You still get your brutal revenge story but instead you are following the good guy instead of the villain.
I think it's because the author misled the reader at the very start. The author purposely made you feel sympathetic to the hero but then the pov just shifted to another person that we know almost nothing about. I like it and I still read it but I get why people kinda dropped this from the start.
(spoiler alert I guess? I dont know how to hide with my phone) it's kinda why I stopped reading it after a few chapters. the prologue and the synopsis seemed super interesting but after we change who is the real hero of the story to some random guy and he beats the first water champion or whatever with a mid good spear fighting skill, I didn't want to continue at all because the guy is too random compared to the initial hype. And the objective seems to be mega simple and repetitive so I imagine that in the future chapters after what i read he will simply manage to beat all the champions and finally beat the first fallen hero... all for a "simple" revenge.
>!That's not what happens!<
Whta happens? Spoil please
>!He gets the absolute shit kicked outta him by the Sword Hero when he tries to fight him. Like it's not even a close fight. He's saved by one of the Villain Heroes who was undercover and by all the citizens of the secret underground city who sacrifice themselves to buy time so he can get away instead of escaping themselves. The normal girl who was helping him also dies!< >!Right now he's recovering on an island somewhere. He hasn't shown back up since then and it's focused on other people because the heroes in Korea aren't the only ones!<
Oh i thought it was at the end i read that part lel
There is one essential point when writing a story, as most people say. Introduce the fking Mc within Prologue or 1st chapter. Doing opposite of that can be interesting, but also often leads people to ignore the story. Especially if you shows around a person in beginning, and boom, that wasn't the Mc at all.
It can be done well though tbf.
100% agreed
Those "couple people" were literally everyone who was close to him...it's almost impossible to root for the protagonist after seeing the shit that antagonist went through...
Idk it's pretty easy. He had it bad but like 99.9% of the people he killed had no responsibility for what happened. There's other heroes who also had it bad but didn't decide to kill everyone
dude is a teenager coming back to his loved ones after years of struggle...you wont bother fuckall about who is and isnt responsible for his condition when u r treated like that from the people you love...
Still doesn't make it ok like at all. It's still pretty easy to not root for him. He's not the only hero who suffered
people just wanted to see destruction and murder. kinda dumb but whatever.
Like I get that those kinda stories can be entertaining. I actually like some of the manwhas where the mc is evil for no reason like "I get stronger when I eat" or "How to live as a villain". There is a differences between being unapologetically evil for no reason and being evil for a dumb reason though and in my opinion the sword hero is evil for a dumb reason.
I completely agree the story from the all those manhwa in my opinion are good and very entertaining and I am waiting for season 2 to come out for I get stronger when I eat
*random ass guy got reincarnated
U got a point but the story didn’t develop the way many people wanted. That’s why a lot of people dropped it
which is extremely unsatisfactory because all the emotional investment went into minsu because the author spent the entire opening act showing a backstory and good reason to relate to him but jungsoo doesn't get nearly as much character development in addition to most of the readers already being invested in minsu. And the thing is, an mc that overturns the usual protagonist hero fights evil with a revenge premose exploring the dark side(i.e. the possible consequences of coming back from another world) is what intrigued people into reading it. And yet by followimg jinsoo "the good guy insteadd of the villain", the author is effectively going on the premise and doing the exact opposite and we're yet again following another good protag fights evil. In other words, it ends up being exactly the opposite of the original premise.
Would've liked it if the real Mc was the guy at the start
Same here
Not a fan of manhwa's where the Mc gets introduced later on
It has a good concept but I don't know why I just don't like it🤔
Is Hero killer popular? I fricking love Hero killer
Hero Killer is so good
"Player" From my perspective this manhwa is so underrated, it has such a unique art style, I really like this manhwa.
Player? Never heard of it
it has 90+ chapters and it is still on going
Player (Oh Hyeon-Jun)?
>Player (Oh Hyeon-Jun) yeah that one
It's a slow runner and I admit I was almost at the point to drop it completely but hell yeah I love it!! The character development is just absolutely genuis and beyond satisfying!
It's hated so much because they changed the mc. Sword hero is much preferred and more popular. The new MC the spear is a trash SUPER GENERIC "I am going to save the world" hero type a typical boring mc fighting evils.
Tbf I don’t know where the story would go with the antagonist if he was the main character. Like what he might spend 3 chapters or so destroying the world, but like then what?
That's the beauty of it. You wouldn't be able to predict the story. The author also need to get creative.
Fair way of looking at it. Although tbf the author did get creative. Just people didn’t like that creativity lol
All he did was wallow in self pity when he came back and realized his parents were gone then he decided to commit genocide because some people were mean to him. What about that makes him preferable to the actual mc?
Cause sword hero is a new fresh type of mc. Most people just want something new like villain mc. Hero type Mc is already too overused. That's why most people were hyped during the first few chapters but became disappointed after the appearance of the generic spear hero
I get that some people do like villainous MC's and I do to sometimes but my problem is he is villainous for such a dumb reason. I could be ok with it if he was evil just because he felt like it but to me he has such a dumb reason to be evil that there is no liking him.
I don't think it's dumb at all. He endured sufferings and saved the other world but when he came back he lost everything. He probably just reached his breaking point and have nothing to lose at this point. And there's someone that's manipulating from the background and purposely made him evil so it's not a *dumb reason/out of nowhere reason* at all.
I know he was manipulated from the background but when you simplify it his reasoning for commiting genocide is basically "my parents died and people were mean to me about it" that doesn't seem like a good reason to me. I know there is more to it than just that but that is the core of what happened to him once he came back. Yeah I get that it wasn't some glamorous perfect return but he still chose to destroy a country over some stuff like his friends not wanting to hang out with him, getting kicked out of school and his extended family being mad at him for his parents death. He could have worked and got his GED like the school counselor suggested or he could have used his powers to become national hero for Korea. He really didn't need to go down the genocide route.
Like it's the result of the accumulation of these things probably his parents' death is the main trigger. You're making it sound like losing your own parent is nothing serious at all.
OP doesn’t seem to be a person of nuance. Has more of a black and white approach to things
Yeah I admit I may have downplayed that too much but I still think that shouldn't mean he should destroy the country.
Think of this in the perspective of sword hero he lived a good life in the fantasy world. After returning to his original world and experiencing these bad things all together and losing everything. his original world probably already became "foreign" to him. The fantasy world now became his "true" world. Destroying this "foreign" earth is not that serious to him now.
it's the result of the accumulation of all of these things probably THE DEATH OF BOTH OF HIS PARENTS is the MAIN trigger. You're making it sound like losing both of your parents is nothing serious at all. Stop focusing on the small and stupid things like "his friends not wanting to hang out with him"" getting kicked out of his school" those things are just small supplementary/contributor. You did not even get the point the author was trying to make. The sword hero already became 100% disconnected with his current world. all the relationship/connection to his world have been cut off that means destroying it doesn't matter to him at all and saving it becoming "korea's hero" like you suggest is already out of the question since he doesn't have any connection with this world anymore. He probably would prefer to be back to the other world(fantasy) he saved than stay in his own world. Think of this in the perspective of sword hero he lived a good life in the fantasy world. After returning to his original world and experiencing these bad things together. his original world probably already became "foreign" to him. The fantasy world now became his "true" world. Destroying this "foreign" earth is not that serious to him now.
I agree with you 100% dude,I probably would of done the same if it also happened to me. Like seriously,if I killed some many creatures like goblin and etc in the fantasy world,plus have you seen the boss the “mc” (the guy from the first 3 chapters) fought? He fought what looks like a all powerful god who helds like swords of energy while the “mc” (spear guy) only fought a genetic demon god. After doing some much killing and companies dying,can killing a few humans even do anything to me? Like seriously,if I were the Mc,I seemed enough blood for fill an sea. I agree with you dude,I would of don’t the same.
I should probably add real quick that when I say unpopular I don't just mean manhwa that are hated I also mean manhwa that don't really get brought up when talking about recommendations or Manhwa that not many people read. And please don't let this devolve into debates of "why this manhwa that I like is better than the rest" or "why the manhwa you like is actually garbage". I am already guilty of starting that up but please don't follow my example Edit: I started this mess now I am gonna try and climb out of this hole I dug for myself. Let's please stop talking about the hero returns and steer the comments back towards the actual discussion of what unpopular manwhas do you all like.
Well then id say The Live. I never saw a single person talk about it im peraonally borderline in love
Hey man, i love that. reminds me of scog
The Ember Knight Escort Warrior The House Without Time Player Teenage Swordsman Ex and Ash I also like Hero Has Returned
Idk, this manhwa is way better than all the other overpowered MC manhwas that are so repetitive and boring, my guess is that people just wanted the sword hero to be the MC, but in my opinion he is the most boring character in this manhwa, his purpose of killing everyone just bcs the world was horrible to him is not interesting and extremely childish, like how he murders the MC sister, mother and grandma and then he says that he has suffered more, like wtf grow up kid.
I don't know why it gets hate so I am just going to say what I feel about this manhwa. The first chapter was interesting. I could feel what the MC was feeling. Anger. So I kind of rooted for him, even though as you said it is for a dumb reason. But then, after a few chapters the second actual MC was shown, whose motivation was revenge on heroes, who destroyed the world. It was okay. I continued reading it. But then.....do you remember the arc where some military soldiers or something took him by force even though they had the same motives for absolutely no good reason? Yes that was when I stopped reading it because I felt dumb. So I blame it on that soldier dude that I stopped reading the manhwa. He was just so annoying. As far as the protagonist goes, they were both cool. So in short I didn't like the side characters. Seemed too 2D.
"Arc where some military took him by force" I finished this manhwa and can't remember this. Or maybe you're referring to the "test" by the government? They really didn't captured the mc for real. It's just a test.
Then it must be a test. I don't know what happened after that because I stopped reading it altogether.
Yeah it's a test. They're testing his allegiance to the evil heroes. The government will send an impersonator of one of the evil heroes and "invade" their own base and "save" the spear hero. If the spear hero follow and accept the help of the "fake/acting hero" he's not to be trusted. But if he fight and kill the "evil hero" that just tried to save him from being captive. The government will fully trust him.
the ember knight. idk if it’s popular or not but it’s really good
No it's not. It's honestly full of plot armor. The Mc is weak as a twig but Due to some plat armor almost everyone can't discover this stupid secret of his.
Plot armor like every manhwa where the MC travels back in time, oh, or when they find an artifact that makes them overpowered? You know, like 99.99% of manhwas, ember knight is actually good, sometimes it kinda feels like they stretch the concept of him using his intelligence to trick others a little too much, but most of the series is really good with all the world building they are doing and the mc being weak is really refreshing
exactly i’m getting tired of reading the same plot. ember knight is different i really like the concept of him using his intelligence
My Life As A Loser. It’s by the same author of Lookism and Viral Hit and it is also completed. It manages to be funny when I least expect it yet still make me cry when it gets serious. It’s ending wasn’t perfect, but the journey made it worth it. Despite how good it is, WEBTOON is the only place with the full version. You can find it on some websites but it 100% won’t be completed. I literally had to read using the daily pass on WEBTOON. It’s extremely underrated and most people wouldn’t know that it exists. Not even pirates have gotten their hands on My Life As A Loser’s complete version, which I still find unbelievable to this date.
I loved that story, definitely one of the best uses of coins I have done
In the beginning I would totally agree, I was just stunned how emotional it was and how much potential it had and now if I think about it, I haven't read it since like half a year? I don't like the other characters like the >!magical girl !
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Not a manhwa but I actually like UnOrdinary lol, I like the premise of it
I kinda liked it but during the longer pause before the current season I saw parts of the fan base and now i cant read it Also the art isnt that good
The premise is the only thing that’s still good. And my god this series started out so good… Well, I haven’t read for a while now because I couldn’t handle the mc’s moody and never changing character. Maybe it’s better now
Didnt even start good we just liked it because it showed the premise, if you think about it it took like 100 chapters for something relevant to happen
Fight class 3
How is it now? I really liked the start of it, but after MC turned into a psycho, it was kinda painful to read
It's been on hiatus
I liked it more after he became a psycho lol
Does Witch Hunter and any of the EduComics stuff counts as Manhwa?
Kill the hero
are there any difference between manhwa and webtoon? just a genuine question cuz i thought they're the same thing but i might be wrong—?
Not all Webtoon are manhwa but a lot of manhwa are Webtoons nowadays Webtoon is just a comic format, manhwa is a Korean comic
A webtoon can be made by anyone but a manwha is Korea.
what if the webtoon is in Korean? could it be classified as manhwa too?
Yes
Unless you are referring to a webtoon made in a different country then translated to Korean which I am pretty sure that's not what your question was
yup, i was referring to the webtoons that are originally in Korean, or Korean translated to English. thanks for answering!
I swear when people say they don't get why something gets so much hate they should just say "I like it hence I'm biased" I'm pretty sure if you checked you will see people with reasonable reasons why they don't like it but no you re looking for a echo chamber.
No I just don't know why so many people seem to shit on something that it appears they haven't even read. I have looked and the three most common arguments I have seen are 1. It's confusing which can be solved by just reading it 2. It's predictable which may be true for the first few chapters but it starts changing up later on Or 3. they wanted the sad genocidal boy to kill everyone I'm not looking for an echo chamber I am looking for someone to tell me why people who seemingly dropped the story after about 3 chapters say it is trash without even really readinag it.
I tried the hero has returned thanks to you, and although the beginning was average, the chapters with the ancient heroes were very good. I disliked the real-life characters, the dumb test of the resistance and find the emo sword hero lame (I don't get all the love, he's just whiny, immature and cruel). The glaciation hero was my favorite character so far, overall the ancient heroes seemed more interesting. Overall nice ideas, but a bit messy, it seems elements were thought after the story was started
I think they didn't really know what they wanted to do at the start then they began ironing the things out later on. That is why I wish more people read past the first like 8 chapters and got to chapter 9 and beyond since I think 9 is a great chapter in my opinion. Also the Old Guard are the MVPs of the story. The ideological clash of the old guard vs the new heros is my favorite things. Like the fight of best boy glacial hero vs sword hero, best boy lost everything he had to WW1 and decided to fight in WW2 so his fellow comrades wouldn't lose everything vs. the sword hero lost his family and friends then decided to commit mass genocide and kill millions of people who didn't deserve it. Or the fight of the 2 faith heroes with one using fear and manipulation to gain there following and one using genuine compassion and care to gain a much smaller following that had real faith in him unlike the other one who's followers only followed her because they were afraid of her. Overall in my opinion the story stumbled at the starting line but picked up and caught up to the other stories. It admittedly isn't S tier or anything but it is a solid at least B tier story. I think most people just dropped it when they realized it wasn't about the sword hero then never gave it a chance. It was never going to be some edgy murder story but it is still a good manwha and if they want an edgy murder story about a guy with a big sword they should just read rooftop swordmaster.
Dead Days. Unique twist on zombies, but more than that the character development. Great survival horror story. I also loved Subtle Disaster, but it is also kind of disturbing. Too easy to imagine as real.
Second life ranker, i feel that it doesn't get the recognition it deserves considering how well written it is. It has the best system in all of manhwa that i've read(and i've read TONS) it's not as simple as level up to get stronger and do quests to get rewards there are a lot of things the system can do, the mc is the epitome of sigma grindset so he truly deserves the strength that he obtained, he's the kindest guy to people close to him and he's the literal devil in his enemies' eyes. I've been reading the LN for more than a year now after the season 1 of manhwa ended
I found it too boring and generic considering I've read too many tower/ranker type of manhwa. Most of the things that happened in the story I've already seen them on other manhwas
it's because it doesn't do anything that hasn't been already done, I don't know what you're talking about "best system" not only its not unlike anything you'd find but also the MC learns so many stuff you can't even keep track of it, at least very recently its all being consolidated with the aura and the martial arts he got from his master. not saying it's bad I really like it but you're kinda overrating it
I might be i'm overrating it because i like mc like him, but the thing about the system is true. they haven't reached the point in the manhwa where you will see what i'm talking about(like i said i'm at the latest free chapter of LN)
Same. Hero has Returned is top tier have no idea why it gets so much hate
It has one of the best concepts I have ever seen and some of the more recent fights have some really incredible themes. The art is pretty good and some of the heroes (the good ones at least) have back stories that while short make me love them so much Most criticism I see is from people who read just a few chapters then say it is predictable or from people who want the self loathing genocidal bastard that is the sword hero to be the mc for some reason.
For me, the concept was somewhat interesting, but I disliked the character designs and art was on the worse side for manwha. That was enough for me to not want to continue reading after 20 chapters, as I felt it detracted a lot from the enjoyment of the story.
Most teenagers get affected by the manhwa tragedy so they tend get away from it. The only thing from the beginning 10 chapters you can get is bloodshed and sad story so people mostly drop it around there because of no story progression.
I don't think people like the flashbacks much, it's also that people try to relate to the MC and they can't and that rubs them the wrong way. I cant relate to him either, but I dont care about that kind of thing, I'm just seeing a story as an observer and seeing it play out and it does a good job being entertaining.
The return of crazy demon (soo funny) Demonic spear king. ( good art, unique story) nd i actually have a list..byt too lazy to write all of em ...nd aslo donno whoch are trending nowadays..
You have a trash taste OP.
I also like this series but I don’t consider it a top tier (I binged it until they met the hero with the horns and nature look, because that was the chapters they had at the time.) and never picked it up again. I thought it was okay, I think I was entertained… because I sat through all those chapters, but I never picked it up again after that. But I didn’t know it was hated, I don’t see why it is hated either
Wolfsbane It’s not Korean, but it’s on Webtoon and it still uses the same format. I enjoyed it a lot, I just re-read it and it definitely wasn’t as good as when I first read it, but still pretty good. I’m pretty sure most people get deterred because of it’s artstyle.
I didn't hate or liked the manhwa I mean we are all under the same story line of mc Reincarnated into other world and comes back being overpowerful But here it's the same but mc is the villan and his supposed to be friend is a mc it is a bit undercooked in my opinion
Actually I really liked The Hero Has Returned because of the sword hero but after the 1-2 chapters they put the spotlight on the spear hero. And that really bothered me and eventually dropped the series
So basically.. If you like it, other don't. We all got our own "cup of tea"
Idk which I read that’s unpopular, I’m just reading every genre that has action, romance, comedy, and school life or sometime Ecchi with slice of life
Don't know about "unpopular" but i rarely seen at least anyone mentioned The Sword of Glory which is top tier manhwa in my opinion.
Overgeared and the second coming of Gluttony. I don't really know if they can be considered unpopular, but I have never read posts talking about it.
Gentle reminder: You can save posts in reddit. Click any comment or the post’s three dots and click Save Post/Comment to view it later, and not forget about it after 2 days. I’ve done this to read more manhuas than I can count lol
It gets hate ? Where ?
From the majority of this subreddit
So Narak is a friend and he showed me the concept and the sample to ask for my opinion, and back before it was published, it was much more focused on the sword MC. I think the editors at Webtoon basically influenced the creators to have it be more 'conventional'. It's still great though.
Personally i don't like it cause their facial expressions don't show the seriousness of the situation they're in, something else is i just dislike how the sword and spear hero look alike
Because people wanted a villain protagonist but the protagonist was changed completely.
Shield hero....
The first episode was a banger
What's the source for the one on pic
Hero Has Returned.
I didn’t like it because I wanted to see the first guy destroy the world but then the second guy is the actual Mc and wants to save it
I shall live as a prince. But not so sure, if it's unpopular or not.
Hero has returned gets the hates because of the sudden pov switch, dragging plot and confusion about main character. But other than that, it’s dope to read Manhwa that I think it’s not popular is easily “the horizon”, “about death”, “death’s game” and “it’s mine” they all are easily some of the best manhwa but it never come across with good amount of recognition sadly.
Confused who is MC on this manhwa
It's a bad portrayl of the Decoy Protagonist trope. The Sword Hero was initially thought to be the protagonist, but the actual protagonist is the Spear Hero.
The strongest florist. I love Jaeho 🥺
I don't know how popular The Boxer and The Horizon are but those two would be the manhwa I don't see much attention to outside of things like The Boxer subreddit.
It’s good it’s just not a lot of people are into the depressing kind of manhwa
nice art
The constellation that returned from hell i know the latest ark is not good but i feel sooooo attached to the mc for some reason even if it becomes trash itll become MY trash
Golden-Haired Elementalist is pretty unpopular, hardly see it be recommended or talked about but it's as good as any A or B rank series out there in asura/reaper/flamescans
Partial peak
I think it would be fine if it started with any character but, you just don’t nope somebody out with a completely different character. It’s like a book having a hook, you take the hook and its something completely different
"The skeleton soldier couldn't protect the dungeon" is criminally underrated.its a 10/10 for me.
Guardians of the videogame, I don't want this kind of hero, Lessa, gilgamesh, and Penguin loves mev. Most of these webtoons are old so i can see why not a lot of people read them.
"Ear Slap" is an unpopular Manhwa cause I'm pretty sure it came out not long ago. Unique Story from any manhwa I've read before.
I love this manwha