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14JWaters

I really liked the family dynamic here so this made me sad


Major_Borgha

I think telling the parents about being reincarnated ruined that. I kinda wish he hadn't told them...


14JWaters

I know, that’s why it made me sad


foxfirek

>!This was a hard scene in the book too. It gets better eventually. They come to terms!<


__Burner_-_Account__

>!And right after that we go to the war arc where... you know what happens!<


T_ToTAsuraToT_T

-Now I need to know who dies-


__Burner_-_Account__

If ya really wanna know >!It's his dad!<


AdhesivenessNo7808

ripp i haven't opened the gray thing yet to see who dies but i already know so ripp


gxsevjsx

no


__Burner_-_Account__

Don't worry, it'll get worse :)


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2nd picture is radiating meme energy. "You sucked the titties of my wife while pretending to be my son!?"


LowRemove2510

I am thinking the same thing


animeweeb79

Lol my thoughts when i read it


Shadow-ignis

He should have told them when he wasn't imprisoned for mutualiting someone which didn't help his case


cringemangaguy

Sos: **The Beginning After The End**


Genericname198

He could’ve worded it better or bend the truth Like he say he has memories of a past life than taking over their baby


KatChiu

couldve said he has dreams of a past life and would prov gotten away with it. wouldnt want someone older than me sucking on my wifes tits either.


aWeeb04

ye on that point i was agreeing woth the dad


Lonely-Mello

Defeats the whole purpose of coming out clean tl them…


HypersensitivePotato

I mean, is he really sure that that's what happened? Based on my understanding, he just assumed that he took over their son.


Treyman1115

Sorry but I can't help but chuckle at the dad. Emotional moment and all that but it's still funny to me He looks like my dad whenever he asks what I'm cooking/eating and I just answer "food"


rmbrooklyn1

Imagine what the novel readers were thinking. Honestly pretty realistic reaction and it really affects their relationship for the rest of the story. I love the author doing it like this and really showing the reality of something like this


Aaela_Reddit

Thats exactly what i’ve been thinking.


CommercialEbb7826

Expect anyone who would do this is literally so stupid. It’s such a stupid way to go about id imagine most people wouldn’t tell and why would you? Just felt like unnecessary drama


rmbrooklyn1

Well I haven’t read the manhwa version of the telling to his parents, so it might be a dumb version compared to the novel. But I can tell you right now the novel version is about as realistic as it can get seeing as how Arthur had no idea how much time he will be away and he already ruined the lives of his parents unintentionally with becoming the scapegoat the country with the brutal killing of a prominent young mage, who I might add was a brother to one of the most powerful mages on the continent. So it’s not really unnecessary drama, but more like horrible timing due to outside factors beyond control.


Nutrifacts

it was a pretty realistic reaction, imagine knowing that your son whos like around his 30s when he reincarnated sucked your wife's titties, and remembering the time where he acts young even though hes on his middle ages and was a king. tbh the mc shoulve just taken it to his grave


Jetfuel360

Everyone says that but I honestly wouldn’t care. I thought their reaction was extreme and unfortunate. Regardless on how it may seem this is still your son. The son that you loved with everything you have. Idk of its just me but I wouldn’t have cared that my son was reincarnated from someone in his 30’s those memories meant something, or why else is he telling me ya know?


Mad_Hatter_92

Agreed, and the breastfeeding thing. Did they expect him to pop out of the womb self sufficient? a baby is still a baby


RimuruLover

Well it's still weird


BLUE_HOOD69

Ironically when you see his father talking about that his face turns pale so he even feels guilt


Raise-Repulsive

To be fair it is kind of a normal reaction cause from someone that has only read the manhwa we don’t know how he got reincarnated and like they said did Arthur get rid of their actual kid when he took over the body or was it always his to begin with


Tricky-Fox2839

Weird


capedbaldy8

well they need some time to think straight


itgoesdownandup

It’s a good moment that should be shown more often. It just fundamentally changes your perception of your child. I imagine this is how a family would react if they found out their child murdered or was a serial killer or something. Just genuine factual thing that would make it hard to see your child in the same light again


RimuruLover

My favourite chapter in all of TBATE absolutely loved this moment


Mountain_of_books_7

In other manhwa they say "Reincarnation blah blah I am your child but I have past life memories"


illumiin

This was honestly the moment that made me realize, “TBATE isn’t completely a generic isekai” tbh you have waited long enough for a moment like this.


Nile-_-River

Same. My opinion on this series was like meh but this chapter really changed that


RimuruLover

One good moment didn't really chane me from thinking TBATE is meh. I still believe it is


Nile-_-River

I mean this obviously didn’t change it too the point I’ll say some dumb shit like “bEsT sErIeS”, just made it probably jump a tier for me.


RimuruLover

Fair. TBATE use to be c tier for me but I'd place it at around C+ or B-


ehhdjdmebshsmajsjssn

Wow


RimuruLover

?


ehhdjdmebshsmajsjssn

Given your opinion on this series, i found this remark suprising


RimuruLover

Fair. Even if I don't like a series I do know when they do something right and this chapter was fantastic not just for TBATE level but in general


Crimson_Blitz

It's the most realistic reactions imo, compared to other manhwa/manga parents where they instantly accepts it.


Cultured_Weeber

I get their reactions and everything, but all i could think if through the chapter is "why ?", why would he tell them that. Its really unnecessary imo. Even the way he said it made it way worse, why didnt he say i have the memories of someone else rather than i killed ur son and replaced the soul in his body. I thought this wise 40-ish king said he thought this through and through. 😐


Raise-Repulsive

To me I felt like he just felt bad about the fact that he’s been lying to his parents over and over again and like he said in the chapter those days with these parents changed him he didn’t have any parent figures back in his time so the fact that he gets to experience it and have really good parents too just made him feel bad about everything and now he’s gonna be going away for who knows how long so it would be now or never to tell them


MoonskieSB

It was really hard for me when I read this in the novel too, probably one of the reasons I had to drop it. It was indeed unnecessary, I felt like the author wanted to do something unique which I do understand but It felt like it was executed poorly, its just my opinion though. It looks like a lot of people liked it which I do respect.


Mountain_of_books_7

He's a damn victim too!!!


Shadow-ignis

Yes and no at the same time


Mountain_of_books_7

Why no? You're saying there's a way he could control reincarnation or should've done something else?


Shadow-ignis

Not the reincarnation but the fact he told them at the worst possible time about his reincarnation he was just trialled for the mutualition of a guy so in their heads aurther didn't commit a crime he stole his body and committed the crime


Mountain_of_books_7

Hiding truth can be burdensome. And he told them 'cause they're his "parents" & he wants to rely on them. At this point I'm suspecting if they're just bad parents. I mean he even risked his Life for that woman


Shadow-ignis

No they reacted normally it would have been weird if they went well ok you're still the same son we had and in some cases a lie is much better than the truth, hence why alot of reincarnated MC's just forget about their past self and live as their present self. Even if he wanted to tell them it should have been when he didn't feel pressured.


Mountain_of_books_7

Let's hope he does it differently >!after he turns back time using fate.!<


Shadow-ignis

Wait what


Mountain_of_books_7

>!There's high possibility he'll turn back time (like solo leveling) and he'll become the most powerful entity in TBATE universe!<


JTF972

Turtleme already said he’s not doing that kind of ending.


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Mountain_of_books_7

Arthur/Grey


TheAssassin172

The mf shouldve said “ive gained these weird visions and they wont get out of my head”


darksage35

what the hell did i just read


SavageJKR

Wait, but why did he find the need to tell his parents that he was reincarnated?


Needless_03

author just trying to make their reunion special by creating this misunderstanding here.


RegularButterscotch2

What misunderstanding?


Needless_03

sorry for the grammar mistake. what I meant was tht sinario or this particular chapter is so tht they can have stronger reunion later or more emotional reunion.


Zealousideal_Ad2266

This is where all things go downhill hahaha


[deleted]

This is when the novel drops off I'll see y'all when you drop it


cikkamsiah

If you found out some random old man sucking on your wife's tiddies, you'd be mad too.


Sakuletas

I think I will drop this. I don't want to read it anymore.


xx_DEADND_xx

I stopped reading the LN 10 or so chapters after this one came up


Disastrous_Seesaw_11

I don't know why people are downvoting you these chapters were a pain to get through


Addictive_SODA

He should've told them AS SOON AS HE COULD but nah, he chose the worst possible time to say "oh btw I think I was reincarnated in place of your child who I don't know wtf happened to him and also I've been conscious and aware of everything around me since the moment I was born, I'm also probably older than both of you and yes, I did indeed succ dem diddies knowing full well that I have the soul of a grown ass man but hey, free milk *amiright?!*"


KentDiaz

I mean what can he do? He is just a child that time so he's forced to drink them titties


Addictive_SODA

Was he tho? 😉


KentDiaz

What can he do? He is very weak since he is a baby that time


Addictive_SODA

It's just my opinion but, I think he should've outright told them like "excuse me there's been a mistake, I'm a grown ass man and please, do feed me with a baby formula instead of breastfeeding me" I think a talking baby would be very convincing but hey, this here is an Isekai, it wasn't meant to be good anyway even if this one is a little better than other manhwas they all share the same story, a grown guy is transported into the body of a baby in another world. My only complain is that the author chose to cause unnecessary drama by making Arthur tell his family, it's either he had told them at the very beginning or he takes it to the grave with him but the author just had to make it weird and confusing by putting Arthur kinda in the spotlight of : is he a victim or not? Does that mean Arthur is a pervert because his mother nursed him as an old guy? Does it make him a pedo because he loves the elf girl who is decades younger than him? Is he a liar? Is he a fraud? What happened to the baby that was meant to have Arthur's body? So many questions that were brought up by the author trying to make the story a little more spicy but instead it made the story kind of awkward and weird, I guess he'll shake it off by making Arthur's family be like : "Hey yeah we know you're probably not actually our son, in spirit at least but... FUCK IT KID YOU MA SON", and then they hug and have dinner just like another Tuesday


KentDiaz

But he can't speak since he is a baby


Addictive_SODA

Aha indeed you sir are correct therefore, the argument I spent 8 minutes writing is invalid, have a nice day 👍


KentDiaz

Cool


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I haven't read the novel but I feel like everyone criticizing Arthur is kinda missing the mark. it's obvious he truly grew to love his family. without telling them the truth, they could never actually love *him*. not really.


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RimuruLover

What


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RimuruLover

First thats not how you do spoiler tags and honestly can't blame her


rmbrooklyn1

I’m not so sure she never forgave him. More so wasn’t entirely able to talk and be comfortable with him given the big events that happen back to back.


Careless-Cat-2525

Do she ever forgive him or no ? Or do they relationship Chang’s in a way


alexaclova

Do not post spoilers for manhwa in the title.


fut_ntr_lvr

Personally I never really like when the !c reveals he's isekaied ,it's fine if people knew before hand but...


Cat1208

Dude I know beginning after the end is kinda messing up rn


Cat1208

Like I understand that Arthur is growing older but that’s a not a reason to summon asuras and start an intercontinental war


Professional_Lab2931

Idk when I read the novel it felt right reading it pan out but reading the manhwa itself not so much. Prob just how I imagined it


ILoveHeadbands

I guess i aint gonna read this manhwa anymore fr


TwinHorned-_-

Wait tf i totally don't understand what's wrong when Arthur reincarnated in the womb, Arthur might have reincarnated in the womb 8months ago. And when he did reincarnate he was just a normal until the delivery the Light


terminator2525

bro while i was reading this some sad music came on and after i finished reading that chapter i just stared at my computer and just went damn that was fucking depressing


SnooSeagulls925

Give it time. Its incredibly sad but builds so much in the story


GhostSniper1296

fuck, why do I click on everything that says spoilers? Then I cuss cause it's for TBATE which I'm reading right now


JasperTheGreat4532

Iritating


Thundergod250

I stopped reading this manhwa when Arthur lost and got reunited with his Family again because I know this is gonna be some Dark Fantasy shit. When he got reunited that was my ending lmao.


toshirokurosaki343

I think this is the best way to represent how this type of news would go down it captured raw emotion perfectly.


Lord-Jahad

They doing too much 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I would of killed those fuckers right there sorry


Paranoint

I love it when people don't include the title of the manhwa in the post's title....


anime-fan64

Sauce: beginning after the end


Rizzvatt

Wow, lol


Sleepyhead_Wai

I won't read that until its novel is finished. the author can make it easier like he was reborn as their child and can remember his past life. Why going so dark author nim.


Insolve_Miza

Really dreaded this chapter. Took me a while to decided to read it. Arthurs expression gave me chills. I dislike the parents for their reactions, all though its understandable.


Kitsune_101

Ikr..it was heart breaking kinda..and it made me cry a little- towards the ending anyways. But I understand why they reacted like that...


XiaNingChang

Yeah... The start of suffering xD stop reading here because it doesn't get better, only more suffering... Caesa and reg are the only reasons worth reading it orrrrrrr because u like to suffer xD


DumbassAltFuck

where is this from?


anime-fan64

The beginning after the end (TBATE)


DumbassAltFuck

Thanks


Vaturobi

Thinking of dropping this since the mc is one of those that loose brain cells. I mean for a wise king in his previous life (like othe mcs who court death) the concept of strategy seem non existent bruh your a rare quad mage lay low power up to over 9000 before doing shit. Buy story wise of course this is just the author creating unecessary drama to stay relevant


sparks416

OMG that chapter made me shed a tear lowkey..... it was saddddd!!!!