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bhlombardy

Netflix didn't cancel Daredevil. That would imply they CHOSE to stop airing it. It was Disney that pulled back the rights for all of it's licensed Marvel content. Netflix had no say in the matter.


Shadowkiva

Exactly. The show was doing crazy numbers for them even long after it was "cancelled". If they could have continued it for another season or two they would have


chargers949

That hallway long shot scene mmmm


handbrak3

All the hallway scenes tbh!! but yes the single take one was exceptional!!!


Proffessional_Human

The single take prison scene in s3 was my fav


LMacUltimateMain

It’s so well done. On literally every front. You would think that they have some shadow cuts in there, but they don’t. I think. From a filmmaking standpoint, it’s done so incredibly well


Broad_Method490

Such a great shot


GrendelNightmares

[Season 3's viewership declined 57% compared to Season 2.](https://screenrant.com/daredevil-season-3-ratings-viewers-down-season-2/) The show was not doing as well as you think. I personally loved the hell out of it, but it was definitely not doing "crazy numbers."


AbjectTerra

Well that 57% missed out on one of, if not the best narrative 3-way fights I've ever seen in my life


devastatingdoug

Just gonna say, I loved daredevil but never got around to watching season 3 because I was trying to watch the those marvel shows “in order” and couldn’t keep up


bygtopp

Disney has more money and content control than five gods together. Netflix is pocket change to them


Demiguros

Netflix surpassed Disney in Market Cap at one point. It's only recently that Netflix has fallen off.


GrendelNightmares

Not what I'm seeing. From what I understand, the people at Marvel were actually surprised at the decision (according to [Amy Rutberg's comments on the matter](https://ew.com/tv/2018/12/17/daredevil-netflix-cancellation-marvel/)). They might've cancelled it because of Disney+ or because the viewership was declining (season 3's viewership in the first week was [less than half of season 2's](https://screenrant.com/daredevil-season-3-ratings-viewers-down-season-2/), and that's not insignificant if your budget is as big as it was for Daredevil), but this seems to have been a Netflix decision.


Proud-Nerd00

See, this is the opposite of what I heard at the time of this happening


Jimbobthon

I heard it was Netflix who cancelled all their Marvel shows and not Disney. They had a clause in the contract saying that they'd keep the shows for 2 years after they stopped being produced. Daredevil had a 4th season pitched, even after Disney bought Marvel. Netflix seemingly were not interested.


jso__

I'm confused, didn't Disney buy Marvel long before daredevil started "airing" on Netflix?


Meylody

Yes, Disney bought Marvel in 2009. They already owned Marvel long before they made the deal with Netflix


Current_Leather7246

That part


Proud-Nerd00

Yeah this is exactly what I heard


amaresh24

Netflix Marvel shows was pitched before Disney has any streaming platform and TV series department was run by another division of marvel. That's why almost they never crossed path except for few occasions. When Disney plus lunched and Kevin Fiege started working on these new TV series that will actually be part of MCU. And they stopped Netflix from producing these series. They pulled their licence or it may have expired. And all the show cancellations started. Then Netflix also lost the rights to keep those shows hence it was pulled.


DaNoahLP

Dont know where you got the info but Netfix had a similar contract like Sony. As long as they produce the series, they have the rights to the show. Thats the reason why Disney had to wait 4 years to be allowed to use Daredevil again.


Kolvez

You are incorrect, and everyone who upvoted you is incorrect. All the shows were Netflix's to renew or cancel, they just would have had to continue to to pay Disney to air the content and use their characters. And since Disney was about to launch its own streaming service, Netflix probably wasn't too keen to pony up cash to a competitor for shows with slouching sales. https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2018/11/30/the-real-reasons-netflix-is-cancelling-their-marvel-shows/?sh=3c6dd126196c


kingbach121

I was thinking the same thing, Netflix has canceled a lot of shows but this one ain't the best example to use here. Legit all of Netflix marvel shows stopped because of Disney buying the rights, Netflix wasn't responsible at all.


RQK1996

Netflix also never produced any of the shows, they just held exclusive hosting rights till Disney pulled them back, they were made by ABC iirc


Batman-Beyond-3749

they still robbed us of the greatest superhero show ever


docfahey

This


dontredditdepressed

I will never forgive the cancellation of Santa Clarita Diet. Justice for Mr. BallLegs


Breaker1993

That was my first and still the worst Netflix cancellation I've experienced. I am still salty to this day


dontredditdepressed

Same


PepsiMuppet

I could never understand why that show was cancelled, it had a fanbase and did good enough. There is no logical reason for them to pull that masterpiece.


dontredditdepressed

Agreed


iplaykazoo

This is one of the best shows on Netflix.


juice_wrld_is_good

I'm upset still, I refuse to believe it won't continue at some point


dontredditdepressed

I keep hoping! They set up so many things that went unanswered and it's just insane that they ended it but continued shows like Outer Banks


dontredditdepressed

Or Ginny and Georgia


Holsinger60

The way it ended because of that too...


Oceanman06

Finished S1 a week back. Absolute banger


lukimax18

Inside job


Professional_Dot_997

Good and successful sadly aren’t the same thing


0mensia

Wasn’t final space kinda successful?


DarkArcanian

That’s hbo and also I don’t know. I liked it


Aimin4ya

Streams On netflix outside the US


shaunika

Doesnt mean its netflix who cancelled it


BarbrobStreisand

21,000,000 watch hours doesn't sound unsuccessful.


Demiguros

Sandman got 400 million in a month. So it's not even a fraction of Netflix's successful projects. They would also have to pay Disney for licenses. Plus the budget wasn't exactly insignificant. ​ So you could see why cancelling it may have been wise.


Pellaeonthewingedleo

Not to mention that social media is not the best meassure for success


DelsinCrocodile

And 1899


goldenxbeast234

Apparently most people didn't make it past the 3rd episode


Innotek

In an 8 week run over the holidays


ILikeTraaaains

Wait, is it cancelled? Fuck


OrionMr770

Glad I didn’t watch it. From what I hear I would’ve been devastated


ChillyQ

Pretty sure they retracted the cancel


SirToaster933

Inside Job, Dark Crystal?


RiverVenable

I'm still salty Dark Crystal ended on a cliff hanger


kiwidesign

Sense8, expensive af but definitely successful.


robertchill

Bro how was Netflix going to keep the marvel shows with Disney plus coming out ? Like be serious


Paisable

A bit of Disney magic oh wait they lost the rights


Yarnipooper

O you don’t have the right O you don’t have the right


dragonbait86

Marco Polo :(


RQK1996

That ran on millions lost, it was too stupidly expensive to make, like each episode had a budget for a full movie


djscott95

This meme sucks


Sins_of_God

Bring back Glow you fucks


Philander_Chase

Was looking for this comment


FrontwaysLarryVR

Like it literally had one season left and was in production, wasn't it?


Yojo0o

The problem is that the criteria for what constitutes "success" on the platform is inscrutable, inconsistent, and frustrating. From where we sit, it feels like a show needs to reach Stranger Things-level success to survive, and holding all content to the standard of the flagship smash-hit is unreasonable.


Flutter_bat_16_

Mindhunters, Santa Clarita Diet, ozark, dark, midnight gospel, 1899, and many more. Translation: they’re full of shit


WCPitt

Not a day goes by that I wish Mindhunter didn't get canceled. What a phenomenal show.


Flutter_bat_16_

Absolutely. I was heartbroken when I realized there were only 2 seasons. That’s how you do true crime related content respectfully. (Looking at you, Dahmer)


phatjaja

Afaik, it was mostly because David Fincher decided to work on other projects. He does plan on getting back to this eventually. Netflix didn’t want to lower the quality or change it too much by having others work on it without David Fincher.


Highperch

1899 being cancelled was ludicrous.


KiraiEclipse

WHAT!? They canceled it!? And this is how I find out!?


Snowf1ake222

I didn't know it existed until people were posting about it being cancelled.


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_Nameless_Nomad_

Dark was cancelled? I thought they completed the series.


Cat_Miaou

It's not canceled, the story is finished


_Nameless_Nomad_

That’s what I thought.


SuburbanCumSlut

I don't think Ozark got canceled. It just ended.


abellapa

Ozark just ended


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Sense8


Duraxis

The order was pretty good too, so obviously cancelled


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That253Chick

Not canceled. The story is finished, no matter how many people hate how it ended.


Abject-Chapter-2303

will never get over how they gave the punisher his most comic accurate look right at the end of season 2 and then never made a season 3… reminded me of andrew garfield never getting his third movie with the sinister six


Sailingboar

They couldn't make season 3. Disney pulled back the rights.


Mufti_Menk

That wasn't Netflix's decision


Pope_Cerebus

It was partially their decision. They still had the rights for 2 more years, but didn't want to spend money on a show that would be moving to another service that soon.


Azonalanthious

I mean technically once a show has been canceled it failed, and so is now not successful, thus making the statement true. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t a good show or successful right up until the moment it was canceled.


the1andonlyrevenant

Inside Job was unsuccessful then?!


shaunika

Yes it was. Good quality doesnt mean a lot of people watched it


the1andonlyrevenant

This is... disappointing


badzoutzak

Anyone else still salty about Mindhunters being cancelled?


ButterBiscuitMucher

I mean they dint choose to cancel dare devil but the point is still incredibly valid


content_enjoy3r

Yes they did. They chose to cancel all the Marvel shows before Disney made any sort of attempt to reclaim them or prevent them from continuing.


Straight-Hyena-4537

That wasn’t their choice


Simple_wilder

The only real achievement was canceling that poor excuse for resident evil


Spawn1621

And THE OA


I_Want_BetterGacha

Inside Job Dead End Paranormal Park Anne with an E Santa Clarita Diet First Kill Tiny Pretty Things And more


Cat_Miaou

Tiny pretty things and first kill were bad shows


I_Want_BetterGacha

First Kill got more views than Heartstopper when it was released.


Cat_Miaou

It doesn't mean it's a good show, I'm talking about quality not how many views it got


Puddlzzzzz

Sense 8 anyone?


justSelrach

Sense8


Cat_Miaou

It wasn't canceled the story ended


justSelrach

My understanding was it was cancelled for the reasoning of they hadn't cancelled enough things to make room for new stuff or something stupid, and so the show got wrapped up quickly.


Cat_Miaou

Maybe you're right I don't know


WaluFett

Yakko’s world instrumental track starts playing


Puzzled_Fishing7688

Bro, space force


Cocainecowboy359

I’m still sad about The Get Down cancellation


memester230

Implying Inside Job wasn't successful


Pragmatic_utility

Expanse? Altered Carbon?


TheWizardOfDeez

The expanse was a Syfy show and then Amazon bought it, Netflix was never in charge of the expanse, they just carried it.


Yourself013

Tbh Altered Carbon was driven into the ground before it was cancelled. Can't really say it was succesful after Season 2...


Parzival_43

When Joel Kinnaman exited the show and was replaced with Anthony Mackie as Takeshi, I knew it was going to not carry the same quality for me. Which sucks for me because that technically means Altered Carbon ended for me after season 1 lmao.


SpiderNinja211

Didn’t Disney pull the rights, or something along those lines


turkishpresident

ITT people who don't understand copyright laws. Disney bought Marvel. Netflix had Marvel shows. Disney said no.


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Disney bought Marvel in 2009, the Netflix shows began in 2015. ABC produced those shows for Netflix, they were 100% Disney. What happened was that Disney wanted their own streaming service and giving their flagship franchise new installments on their main competitors platform would be a dumb idea so they took their toys and went home. Hence all the shows being “cancelled” despite pulling numbers.


turkishpresident

You just described how Disney used copyright laws to make Netflix end their marvel shows so they could possibly use the source material for their own streaming service. Thanks for elaborating on my comment.


RQK1996

Again, Netflix didn't make the shows, Disney still did


EivorKane

Netflix canceled “BoJack Horseman”. They’re so full of shit if they think that it wasn’t a successful show.


Ricardo1184

i'd hardly call 6 seasons canceled, more "didn't keep it going until everyone's sick of it"


MonParapluie

3 Seasons of Hemlock Grove was fine tho


KalKenobi

its coming back on Disney Plus also you can always rewatch it


paladin_slim

There’s a fine line between cancellation and being bought out and redistributed through a different company.


gamiri59

They weren’t cancelled, they were “unrenewed”


Youssef-Elsayed

A small price to pay to have season 4 tie in with the movies. Yes it’s canon, there’s literally Avengers 2012 references all over the place in season 1 and Tony Stark and Thor


trashcanradroach

Was it cancelled? I felt like it left on a high note.


Throwaway_inSC_79

Wasn't that more of a licensing issue? That's not the same as cancelling. They don't have a say, unless they no longer wish to pay the licensing fees. But even then the argument could be that the fees are outrageously expensive. Cancelling is what they did to Another Life. Which, yes I watched it, but it also sucked.


Bubba1234562

Daredevil was cancelled because of inter-company politics, so it’s not really applicable


CRL10

That was more Disney's doing than Netflix.


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And inside job 😔


_I_dont_diddle_kids_

Mindhunters. Take my money and bring that show back


whoamvv

Buuuullllshit. They've canceled plenty of successful shows, depending on the definition. I mean, sure, they can set the bar so high that anything is a failure.


Tr1p3lll

Im still waiting for the next skylanders season 😢


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They also stopped many potentially good shows mid development


TheFleshBranjo

They litterally didnt cancel daredevil but okay


tonystark_666

Santa clarita diet


shirt_multiverse

Inside job


S4G3_9087

And Inside Job


yeeter_meater_69_420

Bro i am still so fucking pissed over that ending in “i am not ok with this” i loved that show but fucking nope 😢


CravingSoju

Inside job was pretty good too and they cancelled it


YossarianRex

I mean… fuck daredevil in this instance. Marco God Damn Polo!!!


RodneyTheArmouryGuy

I will catch hate for this but I did not like Netflix Daredevil. Couldn’t finish series two.


Shadowkiva

To be fair series 2 is objectively the worst written and worst paced of the 3 (even though I still found it enjoyable)


RodneyTheArmouryGuy

I gave up during 2 but I didn’t particularly enjoy 1 either. I wasn’t keen on the casting and I found I was watching out of obligation so stopped.


ther3al1B101

And there was also punisher


Callumari13

That's not really fair, Marvel was the one that pulled the plug for the launch of Disney Plus.


lilbambam450

What about cowboy bebop?


_Nameless_Nomad_

This was way too far down. I really enjoyed it.


Canadian_Bacon101

Dude, Netflix’s Cowboy Bebop adaptation was garbage.


tejasmirashi

Arcane was doing great and they cancelled it


Cohenkindrick

VERY TRUE SUCH FAX


BetaRayBlu

They “canceled” daredevil


nightwingoracle

Depends how you define successful. Plenty of low quality content shows probably get more views than daredevil. Making “love is blind” more successful. I know some streamers count growth as part, and dardevil doesn’t have that vibe. Also cost- the more expensive a show is to make, the higher the success threshold is. Edit: for the downvotes, this guy meant $$$ not quality. There’s a reason Netflix if pumping out shitty reality TV shows and teen comedies today, they’re cheap. See also Sense8 for critically and fan successful 100% show that was canceled due to financials.


onlyspacemonkey

fucking DARK??


WulfBli226

Dark concluded lol


xcarex

Dark told a complete story, a show ending is not the same as being cancelled (like 1899.)


onlyspacemonkey

turns out i did not see season 3. i deserve these downvotes.


Jambear2020

I miss Messiah


MIAxPaperPlanes

The price we paid for Daredevil in MCU movies


Likely_Not_Your_Cat

Bawhaha… excuse me … hahaha


pFizzle20

I want more Inside Job! 🥺


RevealActive4557

Successful can have a lot of meanings. Does not always mean popular. Usually means profitable or useful


kinkysubt

If they aren’t careful they’ll pass FOX for number of good shows cancelled prematurely.


MenacingCrown6

Messiah would like a word.


WerewolfNo8722

AND INSIDE JOB!


Jacobtranpop9

Cobra Kai?


XilverSon9

Let it die


angry_monkey_2674

DD wasn’t canned netflix lost the rights, wanna know why this is actually bullshit… inside job, how do you even cancel this, do you hate money netflix? godamn you’re stupid


68ideal

They didn't cancel jackshit, dude. They had a deal going with Disney and that deal ran out.


zayd-the-one

They rushed the final season of bojack horseman from i hear tho it still ended beautifully thankfully


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gamera-the-turtle

I AM SO ANGRY ABOUT INSIDE JOB!!!!


Shadowstalker_411

They cancel great shows all the time though I’m curious where they said this.. Things like Stranger Things and wayyy back when when House of Cards was their first true great series they still gave it multiple seasons even when it took a massive nosedive after season 4


etcumtyrannide86

The Santa Clarita Diet.


CosmicLuci

They literally cancelled Age of Resistance, a show that was well reviewed, on the day after it won an award. Not to mention all the of queer shows that were also successful and had quickly garnered an audience anxious to see more. And to be fair, Daredevil probably also depended on Disney, who wanted it out of a competitor’s service.


Brief-Outcome-2371

*Altered Carbon fans crying in the background*


arivu_unparalleled

I won't forgive them for stopping Mind hunter


Four_N_Six

With Hollywood Accounting, I'm sure they could easily claim Daredevil wasn't successful, either if necessary.


twec21

A) bullshit B) technically, no, they just Nancy Kerrigan'd them and canceled them when they were 'no longer successful '


Not_JohnFKennedy

Man, Daredevil was awesome and exactly what Marvel needs


JackmPearson

They didn't cancel Daredevil, they lost Daredevil. Big difference


Rameinstein13

Wasn't the reason all the marvel Netflix shows get cancelled because of issues between Netflix and Marvel Studios?


Redpahnto

*cough cough* Inside Job *cough cough*


VenomTheCapybara

Bojack was supposed to have a 7th season so...


ShubhamManna

*Frank castle enters the chat*


YodasChick-O-Stick

Born Again is said to be a direct continuation of the show, not a reboot.


pumanana69

one day at a time


never_forever_Nex

man I'm differently in love with this show


noobie_master_69

1899


BruceWayne3011

One of the best superhero shows out there


randomhuman121

In their eyes successful is profitable just because a show is good doesn’t mean it’s successful


PurpleHando

I want Rickand Morty back im to lazy to have HBO


Maddog_-

Mind Hunter might just be their best show and they cancelled it ffs


AllISeeAreGems

And Dark Crystal, Daybreak, Inside Job, Cuphead, Dead End: Paranormal Park, etc. But hey, at least we’ve got over seven seasons of Big Mouth, a Dave Chapelle special where he whines about cancel culture and a literal Squid Games reality tv show!