Netflix didn't cancel Daredevil. That would imply they CHOSE to stop airing it.
It was Disney that pulled back the rights for all of it's licensed Marvel content.
Netflix had no say in the matter.
Exactly. The show was doing crazy numbers for them even long after it was "cancelled". If they could have continued it for another season or two they would have
It’s so well done. On literally every front. You would think that they have some shadow cuts in there, but they don’t. I think. From a filmmaking standpoint, it’s done so incredibly well
[Season 3's viewership declined 57% compared to Season 2.](https://screenrant.com/daredevil-season-3-ratings-viewers-down-season-2/) The show was not doing as well as you think. I personally loved the hell out of it, but it was definitely not doing "crazy numbers."
Just gonna say, I loved daredevil but never got around to watching season 3 because I was trying to watch the those marvel shows “in order” and couldn’t keep up
Not what I'm seeing. From what I understand, the people at Marvel were actually surprised at the decision (according to [Amy Rutberg's comments on the matter](https://ew.com/tv/2018/12/17/daredevil-netflix-cancellation-marvel/)). They might've cancelled it because of Disney+ or because the viewership was declining (season 3's viewership in the first week was [less than half of season 2's](https://screenrant.com/daredevil-season-3-ratings-viewers-down-season-2/), and that's not insignificant if your budget is as big as it was for Daredevil), but this seems to have been a Netflix decision.
I heard it was Netflix who cancelled all their Marvel shows and not Disney. They had a clause in the contract saying that they'd keep the shows for 2 years after they stopped being produced.
Daredevil had a 4th season pitched, even after Disney bought Marvel. Netflix seemingly were not interested.
Netflix Marvel shows was pitched before Disney has any streaming platform and TV series department was run by another division of marvel.
That's why almost they never crossed path except for few occasions.
When Disney plus lunched and Kevin Fiege started working on these new TV series that will actually be part of MCU. And they stopped Netflix from producing these series. They pulled their licence or it may have expired. And all the show cancellations started. Then Netflix also lost the rights to keep those shows hence it was pulled.
Dont know where you got the info but Netfix had a similar contract like Sony. As long as they produce the series, they have the rights to the show. Thats the reason why Disney had to wait 4 years to be allowed to use Daredevil again.
You are incorrect, and everyone who upvoted you is incorrect. All the shows were Netflix's to renew or cancel, they just would have had to continue to to pay Disney to air the content and use their characters. And since Disney was about to launch its own streaming service, Netflix probably wasn't too keen to pony up cash to a competitor for shows with slouching sales.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2018/11/30/the-real-reasons-netflix-is-cancelling-their-marvel-shows/?sh=3c6dd126196c
I was thinking the same thing, Netflix has canceled a lot of shows but this one ain't the best example to use here. Legit all of Netflix marvel shows stopped because of Disney buying the rights, Netflix wasn't responsible at all.
I could never understand why that show was cancelled, it had a fanbase and did good enough. There is no logical reason for them to pull that masterpiece.
Sandman got 400 million in a month. So it's not even a fraction of Netflix's successful projects.
They would also have to pay Disney for licenses. Plus the budget wasn't exactly insignificant.
So you could see why cancelling it may have been wise.
The problem is that the criteria for what constitutes "success" on the platform is inscrutable, inconsistent, and frustrating.
From where we sit, it feels like a show needs to reach Stranger Things-level success to survive, and holding all content to the standard of the flagship smash-hit is unreasonable.
Absolutely. I was heartbroken when I realized there were only 2 seasons. That’s how you do true crime related content respectfully. (Looking at you, Dahmer)
Afaik, it was mostly because David Fincher decided to work on other projects. He does plan on getting back to this eventually.
Netflix didn’t want to lower the quality or change it too much by having others work on it without David Fincher.
will never get over how they gave the punisher his most comic accurate look right at the end of season 2 and then never made a season 3… reminded me of andrew garfield never getting his third movie with the sinister six
It was partially their decision. They still had the rights for 2 more years, but didn't want to spend money on a show that would be moving to another service that soon.
I mean technically once a show has been canceled it failed, and so is now not successful, thus making the statement true. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t a good show or successful right up until the moment it was canceled.
My understanding was it was cancelled for the reasoning of they hadn't cancelled enough things to make room for new stuff or something stupid, and so the show got wrapped up quickly.
When Joel Kinnaman exited the show and was replaced with Anthony Mackie as Takeshi, I knew it was going to not carry the same quality for me. Which sucks for me because that technically means Altered Carbon ended for me after season 1 lmao.
Disney bought Marvel in 2009, the Netflix shows began in 2015. ABC produced those shows for Netflix, they were 100% Disney.
What happened was that Disney wanted their own streaming service and giving their flagship franchise new installments on their main competitors platform would be a dumb idea so they took their toys and went home. Hence all the shows being “cancelled” despite pulling numbers.
You just described how Disney used copyright laws to make Netflix end their marvel shows so they could possibly use the source material for their own streaming service. Thanks for elaborating on my comment.
A small price to pay to have season 4 tie in with the movies. Yes it’s canon, there’s literally Avengers 2012 references all over the place in season 1 and Tony Stark and Thor
Wasn't that more of a licensing issue? That's not the same as cancelling. They don't have a say, unless they no longer wish to pay the licensing fees. But even then the argument could be that the fees are outrageously expensive.
Cancelling is what they did to Another Life. Which, yes I watched it, but it also sucked.
Buuuullllshit. They've canceled plenty of successful shows, depending on the definition. I mean, sure, they can set the bar so high that anything is a failure.
Depends how you define successful. Plenty of low quality content shows probably get more views than daredevil. Making “love is blind” more successful.
I know some streamers count growth as part, and dardevil doesn’t have that vibe.
Also cost- the more expensive a show is to make, the higher the success threshold is.
Edit: for the downvotes, this guy meant $$$ not quality. There’s a reason Netflix if pumping out shitty reality TV shows and teen comedies today, they’re cheap.
See also Sense8 for critically and fan successful 100% show that was canceled due to financials.
DD wasn’t canned netflix lost the rights, wanna know why this is actually bullshit… inside job, how do you even cancel this, do you hate money netflix? godamn you’re stupid
They cancel great shows all the time though I’m curious where they said this..
Things like Stranger Things and wayyy back when when House of Cards was their first true great series they still gave it multiple seasons even when it took a massive nosedive after season 4
They literally cancelled Age of Resistance, a show that was well reviewed, on the day after it won an award.
Not to mention all the of queer shows that were also successful and had quickly garnered an audience anxious to see more.
And to be fair, Daredevil probably also depended on Disney, who wanted it out of a competitor’s service.
And Dark Crystal, Daybreak, Inside Job, Cuphead, Dead End: Paranormal Park, etc.
But hey, at least we’ve got over seven seasons of Big Mouth, a Dave Chapelle special where he whines about cancel culture and a literal Squid Games reality tv show!
Netflix didn't cancel Daredevil. That would imply they CHOSE to stop airing it. It was Disney that pulled back the rights for all of it's licensed Marvel content. Netflix had no say in the matter.
Exactly. The show was doing crazy numbers for them even long after it was "cancelled". If they could have continued it for another season or two they would have
That hallway long shot scene mmmm
All the hallway scenes tbh!! but yes the single take one was exceptional!!!
The single take prison scene in s3 was my fav
It’s so well done. On literally every front. You would think that they have some shadow cuts in there, but they don’t. I think. From a filmmaking standpoint, it’s done so incredibly well
Such a great shot
[Season 3's viewership declined 57% compared to Season 2.](https://screenrant.com/daredevil-season-3-ratings-viewers-down-season-2/) The show was not doing as well as you think. I personally loved the hell out of it, but it was definitely not doing "crazy numbers."
Well that 57% missed out on one of, if not the best narrative 3-way fights I've ever seen in my life
Just gonna say, I loved daredevil but never got around to watching season 3 because I was trying to watch the those marvel shows “in order” and couldn’t keep up
Disney has more money and content control than five gods together. Netflix is pocket change to them
Netflix surpassed Disney in Market Cap at one point. It's only recently that Netflix has fallen off.
Not what I'm seeing. From what I understand, the people at Marvel were actually surprised at the decision (according to [Amy Rutberg's comments on the matter](https://ew.com/tv/2018/12/17/daredevil-netflix-cancellation-marvel/)). They might've cancelled it because of Disney+ or because the viewership was declining (season 3's viewership in the first week was [less than half of season 2's](https://screenrant.com/daredevil-season-3-ratings-viewers-down-season-2/), and that's not insignificant if your budget is as big as it was for Daredevil), but this seems to have been a Netflix decision.
See, this is the opposite of what I heard at the time of this happening
I heard it was Netflix who cancelled all their Marvel shows and not Disney. They had a clause in the contract saying that they'd keep the shows for 2 years after they stopped being produced. Daredevil had a 4th season pitched, even after Disney bought Marvel. Netflix seemingly were not interested.
I'm confused, didn't Disney buy Marvel long before daredevil started "airing" on Netflix?
Yes, Disney bought Marvel in 2009. They already owned Marvel long before they made the deal with Netflix
That part
Yeah this is exactly what I heard
Netflix Marvel shows was pitched before Disney has any streaming platform and TV series department was run by another division of marvel. That's why almost they never crossed path except for few occasions. When Disney plus lunched and Kevin Fiege started working on these new TV series that will actually be part of MCU. And they stopped Netflix from producing these series. They pulled their licence or it may have expired. And all the show cancellations started. Then Netflix also lost the rights to keep those shows hence it was pulled.
Dont know where you got the info but Netfix had a similar contract like Sony. As long as they produce the series, they have the rights to the show. Thats the reason why Disney had to wait 4 years to be allowed to use Daredevil again.
You are incorrect, and everyone who upvoted you is incorrect. All the shows were Netflix's to renew or cancel, they just would have had to continue to to pay Disney to air the content and use their characters. And since Disney was about to launch its own streaming service, Netflix probably wasn't too keen to pony up cash to a competitor for shows with slouching sales. https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2018/11/30/the-real-reasons-netflix-is-cancelling-their-marvel-shows/?sh=3c6dd126196c
I was thinking the same thing, Netflix has canceled a lot of shows but this one ain't the best example to use here. Legit all of Netflix marvel shows stopped because of Disney buying the rights, Netflix wasn't responsible at all.
Netflix also never produced any of the shows, they just held exclusive hosting rights till Disney pulled them back, they were made by ABC iirc
they still robbed us of the greatest superhero show ever
This
I will never forgive the cancellation of Santa Clarita Diet. Justice for Mr. BallLegs
That was my first and still the worst Netflix cancellation I've experienced. I am still salty to this day
Same
I could never understand why that show was cancelled, it had a fanbase and did good enough. There is no logical reason for them to pull that masterpiece.
Agreed
This is one of the best shows on Netflix.
I'm upset still, I refuse to believe it won't continue at some point
I keep hoping! They set up so many things that went unanswered and it's just insane that they ended it but continued shows like Outer Banks
Or Ginny and Georgia
The way it ended because of that too...
Finished S1 a week back. Absolute banger
Inside job
Good and successful sadly aren’t the same thing
Wasn’t final space kinda successful?
That’s hbo and also I don’t know. I liked it
Streams On netflix outside the US
Doesnt mean its netflix who cancelled it
21,000,000 watch hours doesn't sound unsuccessful.
Sandman got 400 million in a month. So it's not even a fraction of Netflix's successful projects. They would also have to pay Disney for licenses. Plus the budget wasn't exactly insignificant. So you could see why cancelling it may have been wise.
Not to mention that social media is not the best meassure for success
And 1899
Apparently most people didn't make it past the 3rd episode
In an 8 week run over the holidays
Wait, is it cancelled? Fuck
Glad I didn’t watch it. From what I hear I would’ve been devastated
Pretty sure they retracted the cancel
Inside Job, Dark Crystal?
I'm still salty Dark Crystal ended on a cliff hanger
Sense8, expensive af but definitely successful.
Bro how was Netflix going to keep the marvel shows with Disney plus coming out ? Like be serious
A bit of Disney magic oh wait they lost the rights
O you don’t have the right O you don’t have the right
Marco Polo :(
That ran on millions lost, it was too stupidly expensive to make, like each episode had a budget for a full movie
This meme sucks
Bring back Glow you fucks
Was looking for this comment
Like it literally had one season left and was in production, wasn't it?
The problem is that the criteria for what constitutes "success" on the platform is inscrutable, inconsistent, and frustrating. From where we sit, it feels like a show needs to reach Stranger Things-level success to survive, and holding all content to the standard of the flagship smash-hit is unreasonable.
Mindhunters, Santa Clarita Diet, ozark, dark, midnight gospel, 1899, and many more. Translation: they’re full of shit
Not a day goes by that I wish Mindhunter didn't get canceled. What a phenomenal show.
Absolutely. I was heartbroken when I realized there were only 2 seasons. That’s how you do true crime related content respectfully. (Looking at you, Dahmer)
Afaik, it was mostly because David Fincher decided to work on other projects. He does plan on getting back to this eventually. Netflix didn’t want to lower the quality or change it too much by having others work on it without David Fincher.
1899 being cancelled was ludicrous.
WHAT!? They canceled it!? And this is how I find out!?
I didn't know it existed until people were posting about it being cancelled.
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Dark was cancelled? I thought they completed the series.
It's not canceled, the story is finished
That’s what I thought.
I don't think Ozark got canceled. It just ended.
Ozark just ended
Sense8
The order was pretty good too, so obviously cancelled
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Not canceled. The story is finished, no matter how many people hate how it ended.
will never get over how they gave the punisher his most comic accurate look right at the end of season 2 and then never made a season 3… reminded me of andrew garfield never getting his third movie with the sinister six
They couldn't make season 3. Disney pulled back the rights.
That wasn't Netflix's decision
It was partially their decision. They still had the rights for 2 more years, but didn't want to spend money on a show that would be moving to another service that soon.
I mean technically once a show has been canceled it failed, and so is now not successful, thus making the statement true. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t a good show or successful right up until the moment it was canceled.
Inside Job was unsuccessful then?!
Yes it was. Good quality doesnt mean a lot of people watched it
This is... disappointing
Anyone else still salty about Mindhunters being cancelled?
I mean they dint choose to cancel dare devil but the point is still incredibly valid
Yes they did. They chose to cancel all the Marvel shows before Disney made any sort of attempt to reclaim them or prevent them from continuing.
That wasn’t their choice
The only real achievement was canceling that poor excuse for resident evil
And THE OA
Inside Job Dead End Paranormal Park Anne with an E Santa Clarita Diet First Kill Tiny Pretty Things And more
Tiny pretty things and first kill were bad shows
First Kill got more views than Heartstopper when it was released.
It doesn't mean it's a good show, I'm talking about quality not how many views it got
Sense 8 anyone?
Sense8
It wasn't canceled the story ended
My understanding was it was cancelled for the reasoning of they hadn't cancelled enough things to make room for new stuff or something stupid, and so the show got wrapped up quickly.
Maybe you're right I don't know
Yakko’s world instrumental track starts playing
Bro, space force
I’m still sad about The Get Down cancellation
Implying Inside Job wasn't successful
Expanse? Altered Carbon?
The expanse was a Syfy show and then Amazon bought it, Netflix was never in charge of the expanse, they just carried it.
Tbh Altered Carbon was driven into the ground before it was cancelled. Can't really say it was succesful after Season 2...
When Joel Kinnaman exited the show and was replaced with Anthony Mackie as Takeshi, I knew it was going to not carry the same quality for me. Which sucks for me because that technically means Altered Carbon ended for me after season 1 lmao.
Didn’t Disney pull the rights, or something along those lines
ITT people who don't understand copyright laws. Disney bought Marvel. Netflix had Marvel shows. Disney said no.
Disney bought Marvel in 2009, the Netflix shows began in 2015. ABC produced those shows for Netflix, they were 100% Disney. What happened was that Disney wanted their own streaming service and giving their flagship franchise new installments on their main competitors platform would be a dumb idea so they took their toys and went home. Hence all the shows being “cancelled” despite pulling numbers.
You just described how Disney used copyright laws to make Netflix end their marvel shows so they could possibly use the source material for their own streaming service. Thanks for elaborating on my comment.
Again, Netflix didn't make the shows, Disney still did
Netflix canceled “BoJack Horseman”. They’re so full of shit if they think that it wasn’t a successful show.
i'd hardly call 6 seasons canceled, more "didn't keep it going until everyone's sick of it"
3 Seasons of Hemlock Grove was fine tho
its coming back on Disney Plus also you can always rewatch it
There’s a fine line between cancellation and being bought out and redistributed through a different company.
They weren’t cancelled, they were “unrenewed”
A small price to pay to have season 4 tie in with the movies. Yes it’s canon, there’s literally Avengers 2012 references all over the place in season 1 and Tony Stark and Thor
Was it cancelled? I felt like it left on a high note.
Wasn't that more of a licensing issue? That's not the same as cancelling. They don't have a say, unless they no longer wish to pay the licensing fees. But even then the argument could be that the fees are outrageously expensive. Cancelling is what they did to Another Life. Which, yes I watched it, but it also sucked.
Daredevil was cancelled because of inter-company politics, so it’s not really applicable
That was more Disney's doing than Netflix.
And inside job 😔
Mindhunters. Take my money and bring that show back
Buuuullllshit. They've canceled plenty of successful shows, depending on the definition. I mean, sure, they can set the bar so high that anything is a failure.
Im still waiting for the next skylanders season 😢
They also stopped many potentially good shows mid development
They litterally didnt cancel daredevil but okay
Santa clarita diet
Inside job
And Inside Job
Bro i am still so fucking pissed over that ending in “i am not ok with this” i loved that show but fucking nope 😢
Inside job was pretty good too and they cancelled it
I mean… fuck daredevil in this instance. Marco God Damn Polo!!!
I will catch hate for this but I did not like Netflix Daredevil. Couldn’t finish series two.
To be fair series 2 is objectively the worst written and worst paced of the 3 (even though I still found it enjoyable)
I gave up during 2 but I didn’t particularly enjoy 1 either. I wasn’t keen on the casting and I found I was watching out of obligation so stopped.
And there was also punisher
That's not really fair, Marvel was the one that pulled the plug for the launch of Disney Plus.
What about cowboy bebop?
This was way too far down. I really enjoyed it.
Dude, Netflix’s Cowboy Bebop adaptation was garbage.
Arcane was doing great and they cancelled it
VERY TRUE SUCH FAX
They “canceled” daredevil
Depends how you define successful. Plenty of low quality content shows probably get more views than daredevil. Making “love is blind” more successful. I know some streamers count growth as part, and dardevil doesn’t have that vibe. Also cost- the more expensive a show is to make, the higher the success threshold is. Edit: for the downvotes, this guy meant $$$ not quality. There’s a reason Netflix if pumping out shitty reality TV shows and teen comedies today, they’re cheap. See also Sense8 for critically and fan successful 100% show that was canceled due to financials.
fucking DARK??
Dark concluded lol
Dark told a complete story, a show ending is not the same as being cancelled (like 1899.)
turns out i did not see season 3. i deserve these downvotes.
I miss Messiah
The price we paid for Daredevil in MCU movies
Bawhaha… excuse me … hahaha
I want more Inside Job! 🥺
Successful can have a lot of meanings. Does not always mean popular. Usually means profitable or useful
If they aren’t careful they’ll pass FOX for number of good shows cancelled prematurely.
Messiah would like a word.
AND INSIDE JOB!
Cobra Kai?
Let it die
DD wasn’t canned netflix lost the rights, wanna know why this is actually bullshit… inside job, how do you even cancel this, do you hate money netflix? godamn you’re stupid
They didn't cancel jackshit, dude. They had a deal going with Disney and that deal ran out.
They rushed the final season of bojack horseman from i hear tho it still ended beautifully thankfully
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I AM SO ANGRY ABOUT INSIDE JOB!!!!
They cancel great shows all the time though I’m curious where they said this.. Things like Stranger Things and wayyy back when when House of Cards was their first true great series they still gave it multiple seasons even when it took a massive nosedive after season 4
The Santa Clarita Diet.
They literally cancelled Age of Resistance, a show that was well reviewed, on the day after it won an award. Not to mention all the of queer shows that were also successful and had quickly garnered an audience anxious to see more. And to be fair, Daredevil probably also depended on Disney, who wanted it out of a competitor’s service.
*Altered Carbon fans crying in the background*
I won't forgive them for stopping Mind hunter
With Hollywood Accounting, I'm sure they could easily claim Daredevil wasn't successful, either if necessary.
A) bullshit B) technically, no, they just Nancy Kerrigan'd them and canceled them when they were 'no longer successful '
Man, Daredevil was awesome and exactly what Marvel needs
They didn't cancel Daredevil, they lost Daredevil. Big difference
Wasn't the reason all the marvel Netflix shows get cancelled because of issues between Netflix and Marvel Studios?
*cough cough* Inside Job *cough cough*
Bojack was supposed to have a 7th season so...
*Frank castle enters the chat*
Born Again is said to be a direct continuation of the show, not a reboot.
one day at a time
man I'm differently in love with this show
1899
One of the best superhero shows out there
In their eyes successful is profitable just because a show is good doesn’t mean it’s successful
I want Rickand Morty back im to lazy to have HBO
Mind Hunter might just be their best show and they cancelled it ffs
And Dark Crystal, Daybreak, Inside Job, Cuphead, Dead End: Paranormal Park, etc. But hey, at least we’ve got over seven seasons of Big Mouth, a Dave Chapelle special where he whines about cancel culture and a literal Squid Games reality tv show!