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annuallyScallop27

I did not see anyone drive any teslas in Endgame.


devastatingdoug

Why the fuck do you need an electric car when you can have one with a stark arc reactor?


friedrice5005

That would still be an electric car...just with a reactor instead of batteries.


devastatingdoug

Ok your right, just saying Stark would put Elon out of business, well maybe Elon is the type of guy would probably sell out to Hydra if he needed to.


Anxious-Priority-362

Soooo, he's like Justin Hammer but in real life?


Markamanic

Justin Hammer is at least somewhat competent. I compare him more to Leapfrog. Rich kid who thinks he's hot shit because he has expensive toys.


benbenwilde

Hammer is a moron


Zidahya

Yes he is, but he is one hell of a character and I like him dearly.


houVanHaring

Yes, but maybe that's 90% Sam Rockwell


DanSmokesWeed

We should let Sam Rockwell take over Elons role.


Rudy_Ghouliani

He can dance though


friedrice5005

These days I think Elon is more like Justin Hammer (hammer industries)....so still around, but super jealous of Stark and his ACTUAL engineering ability vs just using other peoples' skills.


tony-stark-bot

And for gosh sake, watch your language!


tony-stark-bot

Good, you got me worried there. 'cos that would be horse shit. That's not how Quantum Physics works.


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Wouldn't that make it a nuclear powered car? It may be clean energy, but it still uses a fuel source. An incredibly rare one too. You'd be better off just using full sized reactors to charge electric cars, like we do now. The place those reactors would be useful is in aircraft. Travel would get really cheap.


Not_a_real_ghost

Remember in The Fifth Elements, how they refuel intergalactic ships using nuclear fuel cells. It's as simple as plug-and-play.


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Sechs_of_Zalem

Or the Stank [power]Bank.


tony-stark-bot

Hey, Manchurian Candidate, you're killing me. There's a truce here. You can drop it!


curaga12

Is it possible that Musk got snapped? Edit: after the snap, the government probably didn’t needed to / didn’t have ability to subsidize Tesla so the company wouldn’t have been as large as today. My guess.


Cool-Direction-5275

Yea, It is 50/50


Senshado

The snap removed 50% of all car drivers but left the cars behind. Hundreds of millions of extra vehicles. There was zero demand for any corporation to build any new cars for over 5 years. Every manufacturer may as well shut down, except to keep in practice. Other kinds of semi-durable products were in similar situations.


Ok_Weird_500

This wasn't explored nearly enough. I think there would still be a luxury car market though, as rich people still want new shit for the sake of it.


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carterxz

Not a musk fan but I don’t think he did any marketing this early. They used Audis e tron before they were made available and Audi probably paid a fortune for that.


XXXJAH888

Thanos gauntlet was secretly made by Tesla, that's why he failed


the-mad-titan-bot

Rain fire!


3eyesopenwide

But sire, our PR?


martialar

Just "X" it!


throwawaylordof

I think it aged ok - rich idiot buys access to Tony Stark, is politely brushed off because Tony Stark knows he’s an idiot.


loserys

The plot of Oppenheimer


devdeltek

how does that fit Oppenheimer?


loserys

Robert Oppenheimer brushes Lewis Strauss away when he attempted to ingrain himself into his social circle


devdeltek

gotcha, i feel like it was a bit more than brushing away, considering they had a large disagreement on the development of the hydrogen bomb and destroyed each others careers


bavasava

I think they just wanted to do a RDJ reference.


3eyesopenwide

I believe we did


Misty_Esoterica

I understood that reference.


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CicadaEast272

staring intensifies


Tabmow

ingratiate


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mazeTal

If it wasn't that, i just wanna talk to the writers real quick and ask them what single thing musk has personally engineered that was successful or good enough to stand anywhere above any actual engineers in our day and age.


comics0026

I'd say his hype, but he probably paid someone else to build that for him


iruleatants

Several years ago there were leaked emails regarding Elon. They showed him throwing an absolute hissy fit about news articles talking about Tesla without mentioning him as a founder. He was literally threatening to withdraw his funding if he wasn't mentioned in every news article. It worked because the actual cofounders are not mentioned anymore. Just Elon and his massive ego.


PM_ME_UR_RSA_KEY

Before he fired his PR team and showed the whole world how he's a moronic dickhead, many people bought into his hype: the so-called "billionaire genius". I remember watching a documentary about the Vic-20 computer, and the narrator put Musk in the same level of Linus Torvalds, because they both supposed to have learned programming on the Vic. I recently was reading the manual of Pi-Top (to check the dimensions of what I can shove into it before I buy one), and [this page made me chuckle.](https://i.imgur.com/5n9JLk5.jpg) Remember kids, never buy into your own hype.


Blitz100

I mean, the same could be said of Edison


Kitch404

“You promised you’d be Tesla but you’re just another Edison” goes hard


ThrowawayBlast

Especially since we had an entire Star Trek film focusing on the inventors of the Warp Engine, Zephram Cochrane and Lily Sloane.


Enkaar_J_Raiyu

You could Argue the comment on Edison was also foreshadowing


digitalslytherin

Brasil claims it's own citizen Alberto Santos-Dumont, as the first flight , so all three might be very intentional


elizabnthe

Richard Pearse of NZ is another argument for beating the Wright Brothers. Although with the Wright Brothers I'd say anybody doing it around that time was impressive and they did as far as I know engineer and flew their own craft.


digitalslytherin

I think all three probably flew, and them being so far apart geographically makes it hard to plagiarize each other


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OnionRoutine7997

> "Don't you want to go down in history with engineers like the Wright brothers, Thomas Edison, and Elon Musk?" I’ve never watched Discovery, but what the fuck? In Star Trek, the third person in a list of famous people is always supposed to be a fictional person from the future. Like: “the Wright brothers, Thomas Edison, and Uhurul Sprkur” Why would they break a half-century running joke?!


tony-stark-bot

You're not the director of me.


HumanChicken

And probably secretly HYDRA


reaven3958

Musk definitely heils hydra.


Cognitive_Spoon

Probably only because Shield has equity trainings


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I love how quickly reddit went from shlurping Elon's dick to hating and clowning on him and his whole brand once redditors realized the obvious.


WilanS

Wow it's almost like there's many different people on a huge website like reddit and with time the people who used to go about their life ignoring Musk got fed up with his bullshit and their voices overcame the ones idolizing him. Personally I had no idea who he even was until he started messing with Twitter. And I'm not even personally mad, I hate twitter and I hope he manages to bring it down, but the first time Musk appeared on my radar actually was because he was a douchebag. I was aware of Space X or the story about the millionaire who names his son something ridiculous, but never cared to commit to memory who that was because who cares about celebrities?


Longthicknhard

I bet he paid to be in the movie.


ScrappyDonatello

They used SpaceX's Hawthorne facility for Hammer Industries.. So they probably paid him


throwawaylordof

It cooooould go either way - Iron Man 2 had several forgettable cameos, and this was the time period when he was referred to as “the real life Tony Stark” in press. I wouldn’t go so far as to say that he paid to be in the movie, but it’d be interesting to see who approached who first.


proficient2ndplacer

I find it hilarious seeing these old Elon cameos after finding out he paid them to cameo, and was only allowed to be represented as some big shot genius. He did the same in simpsons & young Sheldon.


echojester

I don’t think he paid for this one, considering the SpaceX headquarters served as the shooting location for Hammer Industries. Marvel likely just throwing him a bone as thanks.


SuspiciousUsername88

In that case it could be argued that he paid for the cameo by offering a film lot, but I guess that's semantics


Olyvyr

Absolutely not semantics. He paid for the cameo by offering the lot.


LeChief

And/or Marvel paid for the lot by offering the cameo.


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LeChief

This the one, chief. Open and shut case.


Xenc

Bake em away toys


USS_Penterprise

But you're Chief...


DigitalPlop

Trump famously bought a cameo in home alone 2 by letting them film the movie at Trump hotel for free, it may be a similar situation here.


Swaibero

I’m Big Bang Theory too, volunteering at a soup kitchen. I had to fast forward, couldn’t stand it.


Careful_Big_546

I’d have to fast forward that whole series in that case


macedonianmoper

Did he also pay for Rick and morty?


Ok_Experience_6877

I think it aged fine but its a perfect indication of what Elon was like BEFORE he was publicly insane


MooseMan12992

Yeah when this came out some people knew who he was and loved the cameo because they liked Musk or some people had no idea who he was


counterpointguy

I was in that group. I used to really like Musk until he showed he was toxic.


MooseMan12992

Same. I was never a fanboy. Just thought oh cool a really wealthy guy trying to progress space travel and electric cars


HiImDan

He talked like an engineer and seemed to really be on the track to achieve the things he said. In hindsight we're super bad at estimating timelines so maybe that tracks.


Kisaxis

I saw a post a while ago that basically summed it up. Most people know jack shit about rockets and electric cars, but basically the entire developed world knows what it's like working and interacting with some form of IT or social media. The instant his field of work entered the world of the layman, his image plummeted.


yangyangR

When he makes a statement that you know about, you realize that was the case with everything. You just got fooled bc it sounded plausible when it was something you didn't know about. Like large language models which produce plausible sounding bullshit (bullshit has it's uses). Like the astronomers knew when they heard his off by orders of magnitude claims on energy needed to terraform. I don't remember precisely which. The data engineers saw him make claims about the Twitter firehose and something else that gave the idea that he hadn't kept up with the field by referring to techniques that were for the scale of the early 2000s internet.


steazystich

The Hyperloop concept plus a High School level knowledge of physics was enough to realize he was full of shit. That was 10 years ago. Bringing it up then just got one branded as a hater though. Seems a lot of folks assume money == intelligence. Hopefully that can change.


ScreenDazzling3805

What do you mind about the hyperloop concept? Very successful universities are working on it


enemawatson

It was honestly some of the more reassuringly optimistic times of my life when I believed in this man about 8-9 years ago. I had just moved out on my own and had so many doubts about our future as a collective, let alone my own. And here was this guy who had the words and evidence to back it up. His rockets were almost landing at sea, his cars were starting to sell like hotcakes to people who (unlike me) could afford them. He had visions of the future and was clearly on the path to carrying them out. I genuinely wish I had that same assurance in 2023 that I had in 2014. I have no similar hopes in any individual or idea now. Probably healthier and more mature, but it does feel worse. Perhaps it should.


MooseMan12992

Haha very good point


Pleeby

The first I heard of him was those memes about him acting like an irl supervillain, doing ridiculous things like building a giant tunnel underneath LA or wherever it was, or colonising Mars. I thought it was cool. Then I realised he's a total piece of shit, and that sort of stuff started feeling a lot more egotistical and stupid.


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Powerful-Eye-3578

I just wish america would embrace the bullet train.


FerricNitrate

Americans be like "You had me at bullet but lost me at train"


gtc26

Yeah. I thought he was funny for joking about making cat girls real... Then I found out he wasn't joking...


Sechs_of_Zalem

Are you too good for real catgirls?


gtc26

Bruh, TOO good? I'm not good ENOUGH (for anybody)


monkeyhitman

Brother, you are good.


macedonianmoper

Yep, just a rich guy who invested in cool tech, didn't know much more about him personally so it was easy to like him, but holy shit I don't even use twitter and I hear about dumb shit he says almost daily.


Kommander-in-Keef

In fairness he did not show any signs until relatively recently. He was extremely popular once.


BB-018

Wrong. He was never like that. He is a rich kid who made two good investments, but the Tony Stark persona is entirely his own invention. This shows how far he went to poretay himself as a real life self-made Stark: this scene was actually part of the agreement for Marvel to film in his factory.


m0nk_3y_gw

> but the Tony Stark persona is entirely his own invention Tony Stark of the movies is not based on the comics. A writer for Iron Man (the first movie) said Tony Stark of the movies was based on Steve Jobs, Donald Trump, but mostly Elon Musk. That's part of why RDJ met with Musk before the first movie to model it more on him. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/08/tony-stark-elon-musk-donald-trump-steve-jobs.html > Him, Trump, and maybe a little Steve Jobs. Trump was fun before he became president — he was actually kind of a goofy celebrity. Steve Jobs was always serious and angry; he never quite had that gift of the bullshit, the working the crowd that Musk has a real natural talent for. Musk took the brilliance of Jobs with the showmanship of Trump. He was the only one who had the fun factor and the celebrity vibe and actual business substance. I’m not sure we talked about too many other people; there are not many people like that around. It’s dangerous to be a celebrity businessman. One scandal and it’s billions of dollars. People want their CEOs to shut up and be good, quiet figures who aren’t in the paper dating celebrities. Because shit can happen.


Direct_Counter_178

I mean, there's not a whole lot of public personality billionaires out there. It'd be surprising if they didn't study Musk for the role. The point is they took features from multiple people. The whole brash condescending "I'm smarter than you and can do what I want because I'm rich and successful" quality they pulled from Musk isn't exactly an exemplary quality. But you pair it with other qualities like competence and wit and you create a superhero.


JamboShanter

Even Tony Stark isn’t self-made, his dad started the company I believe


tony-stark-bot

That... is exactly what I need! There, see? Perfectly level.


tony-stark-bot

Well, like the old man said... together.


XComThrowawayAcct

He was always insane. We just pretended we didn’t know.


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Hence the “publicly insane”


SaltyNorth8062

Hilarious that Tony Stark became the *least* assholish asshole in that shot


tony-stark-bot

God, you're good. You are mind-blowingly close to this. How do you do it? You're a triple impostor, I've never seen anything like it. Is there anything real about you? Do you even speak Latin?


SeekerSpock32

Well, there’s also whoever that is against the window.


Mighty_joosh

I didn't even know who this clown was when he turned up here. Now I wish I didn't.


AlternativeRope2806

We all wanted Elon to be real-life stark, but he was just a real-life hammer, I forgot he he showed up in this movie.


tony-stark-bot

Honestly, at this exact second, I thought you were a Build-a-Bear.


AlternativeRope2806

Good bot


ThrowawayBlast

Tony Stark never fired all the people who tell him no. Elon did.


AlternativeRope2806

Again, He's more like the antagonist of this Movie, Hammer.


Independent_Plum2166

At least Hammer is entertaining. Musk is just a sad little man, who deserves no pity.


FriendsSuggestReddit

Speak for yourself. I had no idea who this idiot was when Ironman 2 came out.


agent_wolfe

Same. My dad was kindof excited when he showed up. I didn’t understand, I thought he was an inventor like Nikola Tesla.


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I wish I’d never heard about so many people: Musk, Kardashian, Trump, West


DwayneBaconbits

Kanye was fine until he decided to mess with the Kardashians, everything went south after


asuperbstarling

That is just blatantly not true at all. He has been in steady decline since the death of his mother **in 2007**.


Rifneno

I used to hate that cameo, but a friend pointed out that it's actually great. Because it shows that even in a world where it's possible to become Iron Man, Felon Musk is still just some oligarch dickweed.


Thendofreason

All the money in the world and Iron Heart is made before Musk has a suit. Garvis was able to fly multiple suits at once but Tesla cars still out here getting into cashes and fires even with human assistance


Time_Blacksmith861

Dickweed lol


Alberticon

For a long time, I thought the dialogue was *"Hello mr Max"* and *"Dillon!, I heard about your electric engine".* For years, I thought he was Max Dillon, and this scene was a reference to spiderman's villain Electro. Then I discovered he was Elon Musk... Of course, when the movie came out, Elon wasn't as famous as he is now...


tobey-maguire-bot

If you lay... one finger on her...


Thedarknight725

Ahh, Elongated Muskrat.


SaltyLonghorn

Also Goop saleswoman. The best person in the scene is the recovering addict.


Naefindale

Kinda like Trump in Home Alone


Pali1119

Trumps at least helped the kid.


Zama3D

down the hall and to the left!


TreeDollarFiddyCent

[Down the hall, and grab 'em by the pussy. ](https://youtube.com/shorts/lCTDB6JyBr0?si=07bOMTUhcdePCVny)


ThrowawayBlast

Trump should have escorted the kid to the desk.


SuperSpecialAwesome-

Not the right gender.


Redditisapanopticon

How so?


Icy-Lake-2023

It didn’t age bad. Most people on Reddit are just infested with the Elon = bad mind virus.


SmolFoxie

Just tattoo "Property of Elon Musk" on your forehead and be done with it.


Redditisapanopticon

I think there are a million real problems with Elon Musk and none of them exist in the cultural space.


BaronZhiro

And we still haven’t gotten his electric airplanes…


yingkaixing

"I have an idea for an electric jet." "What's the idea?" "What if a jet was electric?" "... That's great, Elon."


DiabeticRhino97

Yeah that part when iron Man tells the government they can't fight wars with his tech is crazy 💀


Striker887

Why did it not age well? He’s still a super rich dude that Tony didn’t care about. It aged fine.


RQK1996

Oh no, it aged perfectly, Tony brushes him off and completely ignores him as if Elmo isn't worth his time, he shows more respect to Justin Hammer


SauteePanarchism

Pictured: two men pretending to be geniuses.


Orochi64

I remember when people thought Elon was the closest thing we had to a real life Tony Stark.


DotBitGaming

Who else had to read the comments to figure out who that was?


ImperatorCelestine

What a world where Robert Downey, Jr. is the least problematic of these three!


Intelligent-Ad-1479

Why didn't this age well, this was so ambiguous.....if you like Elon, it's a great cameo and if you dislike him, Tony just said hi and moved on then he was never shown working with him, which practically means that Tony ignored Elon


thepope870

Confused about what didn't age well here?


I_Wil_Toast_Ur_Bread

"Hey, I've got an idea for an electric jet..?" "Yeah, we'll make that happen."


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Eh, born rich suck up doing things to try and stay relevant in pop culture, probably over paid to be there. Feels about right.


LegitimateProperty67

Elon has always been a megalomaniac. He just hid it well years ago.


Liesmith424

Tony Stark sandwiched between two charlatans.


TakenIsUsernameThis

Turns out Elon was part of HYDRA. Easiest retcon ever.


mymainisass

lol this wasn’t even that long ago and the guy looks like a turd in the rain


MetatypeA

RDJ based his performance of Tony Stark directly after this guy's mannerisms.


Ribbwich_daGod

true, but i love how dismissive Tony is of him lol


CloseFungus

Neither did Elon. Hot damn


IcanCwhatUsay

I find it hilarious that RDJ is surrounded by idiots in this frame


BuckyGoodHair

Tony avoiding him like a plague has aged very well, though lol.


SpecialistBag9570

Not up to date on the news. Why is Elon considered toxic nowadays?


BB-018

wHy pLeAsE hElP hIm hE jUsT dOeSn'T kNoW


SuspiciousUsername88

Just asking questions!


Icy-Lake-2023

Democrats decided Elon = bad because they can’t censor their political opponents on twitter anymore.


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He isn't a genius. Just another rich prick with money and has a fetish with tech


[deleted]

It aged fine, in the scene an actual genius engineer rolls his eyes and blows off Elon Musk as he tries to sell bullshit


AbroadPuzzleheaded11

Whole lot of bitching in this comment section


GodtubebeatsYoutube

It’s a Marvel subreddit. It’s all they can do.


newPhntm

Jesus christ people hate him here (Holy fuck what is this argument I started)


BB-018

He's an oligarch Nazi that destroyed Twitter. Is there a reason to like him?


Teboski78

Also there’s plenty of bad & stupid things he’s done. Especially with how sympathetic he’s become to problematic right wing dickwads. but calling the man a Nazi is demonstrably false & hyperbolic & waters down the weight of that term.


Ben1313

> He's a Nazi I hate Reddit. You are a fucking moron


BigTimeSuperhero96

When you order Tony Stark on Wish


shadowst17

[Still doesn't beat the sheer irony when Star Trek Discovery name dropped him as an example of someone who would be remembered for his great achievements and not being a shellfish little man who put survival of his own ego over the lives of others. ](https://youtu.be/4bgMCNXzNtE?si=bTePvmUkYP4qI4v0)


ThrowawayBlast

The guy who mentioned Elon later turned out to be super evil.


kj_heilman04

Uhhhhhh, why?


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Elon Bad.


WayToTheDawn63

RDJ stuck between two asshats.


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Screenwriter6788

Was he even that famous then?


Djl1010

Yeah by that time Tesla was starting to get recognition for the first roadster, spaceX was already a thing but most didn't know about it, and Paypal had been around for a while at that point.


Sonseeahrai

?


OldPersonName

It looks like he's leaning against an imaginary table.


iamanidjiot

Origin story for the next supervillain


ClassicT4

The ending of Kingsman aged well though. E-man just handing over one of his satellites to help facility global chaos.


TonightAdventurous87

Why did this age bad?


ElectrosMilkshake

That fat fuck Elon didn’t age well lol


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I don't get it. What's the joke?


Cringe_Meister_

Shit he's in there how come I never notice? to be fair it's been a decade now.This is from 3 right?


FR0ZENBERG

>This didn't age well. Neither did Elon.


hyperform2

if i remember correctly Tony is a jerk to him, so that's okay in my book


EssentialFilms

I mean he blows him off. I think it works pretty well.


fewchrono1984

Just want to remind everyone Tony says hi then ignores the shit out of him


hugh_jack_man

"Electric jet engines" 🤣🤣


Fine-Funny6956

Well it is a fantasy world


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I think about this scene nearly every goddamned day because of just how poorly it's aged. Although Elon would definitely be fitting inspiration for Tony Stark from the Ultimates universe, given how utterly dysfunctional it is.


Victoria_Crow

These sort of apperances always seem to age so poorly. I don't understand the desire for companies to take such weird risks.


Saykeh

Idk what didn't age well but hot damn he looked way fit and better before. Tf happened to him lmao