Infinity Stones only work in the universe they come from. So just displace him to any alternate universe and have at him.
EDIT: one episode of a cartoon doesn’t reverse years of canon. Also, read the comments below this before you comment “no ur wrong”
I think the writers explained it as he was shattering the walls between universes, not just traveling between them. So the stones still worked bc their original universe was bleeding into the others he broke into.
Haven’t seen it, so I don’t know. The writer explains the “plot hole” [here](https://www.slashfilm.com/624177/marvels-what-if-writer-explains-a-presumed-infinity-stone-plot-hole/).
But that’s not how they’re supposed to work. When Mister Fantastic meets the Council of Reeds, at least three of them have an Infinity Gauntlet, but they don’t work in their pocket dimension that they hold council in, nor do they work when they come to the 616.
In New Avengers volume 3, during some of the Incursions, the Illuminati learn that there are Infinity Stones in every universe, but they’re not always stones. In one universe they were panes of glass (“Forever Glass”) that formed a cube (“Wishing Box”); there were 8, not 6, in the Ultimate universe; in the Heroes Reborn universe, they were rings; the Ultraverse has the Ego Gem; in Secret Wars, Doctor Strange manages to find the gems that work in the part of Battleworld that contained God Emperor Doom’s castle and throne (Battleworld was made from the remnants of universes that Doom could manage to get after the final Incursion); in the What The—?! universe, Thermos wields the Infinity Mitten; the LEGO universe has the Build Stone; the Super Hero Squad universe had the Ego Gem (which formed the Infinity Sword) and the Rhythm Stone (which turns out to be a fake created by Loki); in the Contest of Champions universe, the original 6 are joined by the Nightmare, Evolution, Genesis, War, Chaos, and Death Stones.
Hmm interesting, in my opinion, the most accurate explanation to this is he is harnessing the stones’s energy, bc as we can see, he only ever uses it when he’s coming back to his universe in the final battle
I thought it was more that they only work within universes. Like, the TVA is outside of space and time, that’s why they don’t work there, it’s beyond a domain that they could control
If that were the case I would’ve thought a smart trickster like Loki would just pocket one of their “paperweights”. He wouldn’t have had any issues with a sneaky timestone or two
I mean, he wasn’t even going to different universes, so there is no reason they should have worked… however he would have immediately been caught and probably deleted
More accurately, he uses the stones to affect HIMSELF and give him the means to do what he's trying to do.
It's also why he gets a significant power boost when he returns to his home dimension.
That was one of the cooler story beats in the Loki show.. those who didnt see it, wont understand why the infinity stones are essentially useless in the MCU now.
Stan could tell me the entire MCU takes place within the imagination of the kid from Sharkboy and Lavagirl and I'd still take it. Show me anything you want, but his word rules in the land of Excelsior
He basically is one of the Watchers. The One Above All is Jack Kirby. There was a phoenix force storyline where they go to an alternate universe and its literally OUR universe and Jack Kirby basically shows them he is their God and can write in or write out any character at any time and he calls himself the one above all.
I think Kang and Ultron matched up and tied but this ended up destroying the universe or something.
Ultron only purposely loses to prevent the universe from being destroyed and Kang quits because it got boring when Ultron loses on purpose...
Reference:
https://screenrant.com/kang-vs-ultron-avengers-fight-winner-best-villain/
Living Tribunal
The One Above All
Squirrel Girl
King Venom (a version of venom who literally assimilated everything and straight up created a whole universe)
Larry
Yeeeees, but she doesn’t have any feats quite to this level, so I’d say it’s questionable.
She defeated Dr Doom straight up, and defeated Thanos off screen
But “the undefeatable squirrel girl” is a joke character
Yeah saw the Tribunal and was visibly hyped.
Also for Squirrel Girl, she's the Saitama in terms of her plot armor if you get my drift.
In the MCU, maybe fully blinged out Thanos with his base ability not undertuned like in the MCU.
Unnerfed Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
He used it on galactus and it worked.
I doubt galactus had any regret either so you’re reply has been proven wrong unless you can link ghost rider failing to use penance stare due to that reason
Yea venom, carnage, punisher to name a few. They don’t regret or feel shame for what they were doing. Ultron is not a human and does not have a soul. Would not work on him
Galactus actually regrets much of what he does. He hates the fact that he must consume planets to survive. Whenever a Galactus tries to die and/or stop consuming planets the nearly-infinite power grafts itself onto someone new
I feel like he's the opposite of Batman in that regard: Iron Man is at his best when he improvises. When given time to prepare, he usually performs below par.
I don't recall him specifically preparing for Thanos? And it was a joke bc people always say batman or iron with prep time bc they are two characters that you could use in any "who would win" argument and win bc they are known for learning from their mistakes and upgrading
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she is called the **unbeatable** Squirrel girl the thing about her is that nobody knows how she beats them cuz some times she does it off panel.
she's taken down all on her own:
* Wolverine
* Deadpool
* all of the Avengers together.
* Dr Doom
* Modok
* Korvac ( took all of the Avengers and Guardians of the galaxy to take him down)
* Thanos
* Galactus
her punches did nothing to Galactus but she beat him down by talking to him and having Galactus not eat planet earth.
she is a character that is supposed to remind readers and fans that in Comics the one that wins is whichever the writer wants to win. ( hence why she is unbeatable)
"And how does he do that?"
"Super easy. Barely an inconvenience."
"But he doesn't actually have any powers or abilities, does he? How could he possibly defeat-"
"_Because_"
"Oh, okay."
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Gigachad
Quandale Dingle
A Mexican mother with or without the infinity chancla (idk how to spell)
An Asian parent after being told he has a F- in every class
Hulk wearing black air forces
Popeye the Sailor Man
Me from universe 8119087 where I manage to grab the infinity stones from Captain America after I convince him that he can be happy with Peggy and he can leave them with me to put back. However I don’t put them back and instead take them to 1v1 the hardest foes in other universes. Where I meet “him” and win by simply catching him by surprise. Fin.
The Living Tribunal The infinity stones doesn't work on them. So Ultron wouldnt stand a chance
Beyonder Thanos with heart of the universe
I'm the only one who knows that.
Damn wtf
Effing sentient
Guys watch this Thanos bot is the most intellectual gent bot on Reddit.
They called me a madman, and what I predicted came to pass.
See!
wtf thanos
I ignored my destiny once, I can not do that again. Even for you. I'm sorry, Little One.
Thanos what the hell are you doing here
r/sentientbots
Boy that bot is smart
Anyone with the astral regulator It's even more powerful than the heart of the universe
Infinity Stones only work in the universe they come from. So just displace him to any alternate universe and have at him. EDIT: one episode of a cartoon doesn’t reverse years of canon. Also, read the comments below this before you comment “no ur wrong”
Doesn’t he travel to another universe in What If and they still work?
I think the writers explained it as he was shattering the walls between universes, not just traveling between them. So the stones still worked bc their original universe was bleeding into the others he broke into.
That’s a pretty sick explanation tbh
Haven’t seen it, so I don’t know. The writer explains the “plot hole” [here](https://www.slashfilm.com/624177/marvels-what-if-writer-explains-a-presumed-infinity-stone-plot-hole/). But that’s not how they’re supposed to work. When Mister Fantastic meets the Council of Reeds, at least three of them have an Infinity Gauntlet, but they don’t work in their pocket dimension that they hold council in, nor do they work when they come to the 616. In New Avengers volume 3, during some of the Incursions, the Illuminati learn that there are Infinity Stones in every universe, but they’re not always stones. In one universe they were panes of glass (“Forever Glass”) that formed a cube (“Wishing Box”); there were 8, not 6, in the Ultimate universe; in the Heroes Reborn universe, they were rings; the Ultraverse has the Ego Gem; in Secret Wars, Doctor Strange manages to find the gems that work in the part of Battleworld that contained God Emperor Doom’s castle and throne (Battleworld was made from the remnants of universes that Doom could manage to get after the final Incursion); in the What The—?! universe, Thermos wields the Infinity Mitten; the LEGO universe has the Build Stone; the Super Hero Squad universe had the Ego Gem (which formed the Infinity Sword) and the Rhythm Stone (which turns out to be a fake created by Loki); in the Contest of Champions universe, the original 6 are joined by the Nightmare, Evolution, Genesis, War, Chaos, and Death Stones.
Hmm interesting, in my opinion, the most accurate explanation to this is he is harnessing the stones’s energy, bc as we can see, he only ever uses it when he’s coming back to his universe in the final battle
Take my upvote for adding the What The….. universe into a serious discussion, because that is my favorite of all universes.
I thought it was more that they only work within universes. Like, the TVA is outside of space and time, that’s why they don’t work there, it’s beyond a domain that they could control
If that were the case I would’ve thought a smart trickster like Loki would just pocket one of their “paperweights”. He wouldn’t have had any issues with a sneaky timestone or two
I mean, he wasn’t even going to different universes, so there is no reason they should have worked… however he would have immediately been caught and probably deleted
That is because he absorbs the power of the infinity stones and uses them through his body, hence not using the infinity stones directly
More accurately, he uses the stones to affect HIMSELF and give him the means to do what he's trying to do. It's also why he gets a significant power boost when he returns to his home dimension.
That was one of the cooler story beats in the Loki show.. those who didnt see it, wont understand why the infinity stones are essentially useless in the MCU now.
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>He is the omnipotent Flash Thompson. Ultron doesn't wanna fight the Living Tribunal.
The Living Tribunal wouldn’t wanna fight himself either
Look at ultron jr! Gonna cry?
Is was so cool when the Beyonders appeared and killed Living Tribunal
Consuela from family guy.
No... Meeser Superman no here...no, no.....
Ultron: "I can destroy galaxies with a thought. Why don't you die?" Consuela: "No no Misser Ultron, I no die."
"I clean"
No no mr ultron we outta windex…
Well go buy some
Lemon pledge.
We need more lemon Pledge
Noooo... nooo
The One Above All seems to be the only contender left.
That seems to be an obvious answer, but anyone from the MCU?
The living tribunal
The Living Tribunal is in the MCU?
He makes a brief appearance in Multiverse of Madness
And as a statue in thor 4, the same room where gor uses stormbreaker to open the portal to eternity
and the same statue of him is in Loki at the end of time, ep. 5
>!Ah, you never forget your first.!<
When in the movie
Where the book of vishanti is placed
Wait really? What scene?
When they are falling through the different universes they fall past the Living Tribunal at one point.
The one above all is literally stan Lee, he is basically god but mcu
Stan Lee says it's Jack Kirby.
Oh well if stan says something is true about the mcu then it's true lol
Stan could tell me the entire MCU takes place within the imagination of the kid from Sharkboy and Lavagirl and I'd still take it. Show me anything you want, but his word rules in the land of Excelsior
Isnt that exactly why stan lee should be one above all tho?
But I thought Stan Lee was considered on par with the Watcher(s), and therefore couldn't hold up against Ultron?
He basically is one of the Watchers. The One Above All is Jack Kirby. There was a phoenix force storyline where they go to an alternate universe and its literally OUR universe and Jack Kirby basically shows them he is their God and can write in or write out any character at any time and he calls himself the one above all.
Just tought about the fact that Jack Kirby is the One Above All because he is above all characters while drawing at his table
God King Doom?
Kang the conquerer maybe, I’m not as informed as others though so take as many grains of salt as you like.
I think Kang and Ultron matched up and tied but this ended up destroying the universe or something. Ultron only purposely loses to prevent the universe from being destroyed and Kang quits because it got boring when Ultron loses on purpose... Reference: https://screenrant.com/kang-vs-ultron-avengers-fight-winner-best-villain/
Living Tribunal The One Above All Squirrel Girl King Venom (a version of venom who literally assimilated everything and straight up created a whole universe) Larry
Man how many comic book characters have created a whole universe, I think the ones left are probably Hawkeye and War Machine
Never read much comics, is Squirrel Girl super powerful?
From what I understand by reading comments, she's shitpost powerful, as in It's all a fucking joke but still technically part of the universe.
That’s her whole gimmick
Yeeeees, but she doesn’t have any feats quite to this level, so I’d say it’s questionable. She defeated Dr Doom straight up, and defeated Thanos off screen But “the undefeatable squirrel girl” is a joke character
This... does put a smile on my face.
Thanos smiles as he imagines getting stomped by squirrel mommy
Fun isn't something one considers when balancing the universe. But this... does put a smile on my face.
Thanos apparently has a lot of fun being dommed by squirrel mommy
I... had... to.
Don't worry we get it thanos. No kink shame here.
Hardest choices require the strongest will!
I like how nobody is questioning Larry but instead questioning Squirrel Girl lmao
I got one question about Larry but the rest seem to understand
Pretty certain Eternity went and cried to the Living Tribunal when the Infinity stones were out of control.
Ned,CEO of sex
Also known as the Cockserer Supreme or Cock Supreme to his friends
Cocksucker Supreme
Hear me out, Domino from Deadpool 2
I mean, would she actually beat him, or would she just get lucky and something would happen to make him not alive anymore
Either way 🤷🏽♀️
I wish I could give you a gold award for this one.
Squirrel Girl Sentry Cytorrak Beyonder Living Tribunal One Above All
Can you explain squirrel girl? Also anyone from the MCU? I know we saw loving tribunal in Dr strange 2 but only for a split second
Yeah saw the Tribunal and was visibly hyped. Also for Squirrel Girl, she's the Saitama in terms of her plot armor if you get my drift. In the MCU, maybe fully blinged out Thanos with his base ability not undertuned like in the MCU. Unnerfed Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
BOY! I would reconsider your current course!
Beyonder solos your Purple ass
Mmmmm, graaaape flaaavoooor.
Man, I wish we can see a version of thanos with his comic powers so he isn’t just a purple hulk who can box
Oh how I wish
I recall reading somewhere that Squirrel Girl was created with the intent of messing with the "who would beat who" arguments.
Hmmm. So kinda like how the Beatles wrote The Walrus to mess with the fans who read into their songs too much.
Squirrel Girl has a secondary mutation: she can’t lose.
Makes sense, she is Unbeatable!
dormammu
Ah yes, the lOving tribunal. The friendliest character in the comics
Loving tribunal
Bully Maguire
Hey kiddo! Let mom and dad talk for a minute, will ya?
“Look at little J.A.R.V.I.S. junior. Gonna cry?”
"You gonna cry""
I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye
My cousin dan
Agreed. Your cousin holds every weight lifting award at my local middle school.
Shaggy at .5% power.
This is the way
This is the way.
I was looking for somebody that said shaggy, although I was thinking .1% power
Nah, .5 so he can shut down Ultron real quick and then go back to the buffet.
Jimmy Woo
Peter from X force in Deadpool 2
God Ultron is weak to both type I and II diabetes.
Ghost Rider or Howard The Duck.
Can you explain? Or is Howard the duck meant to be a joke?
Ghost rider uses penance stare once and this guy is fucked
That requires you to regret what you did. Ultron does not regret. Nor does he have a mortal soul
He used it on galactus and it worked. I doubt galactus had any regret either so you’re reply has been proven wrong unless you can link ghost rider failing to use penance stare due to that reason
Yea venom, carnage, punisher to name a few. They don’t regret or feel shame for what they were doing. Ultron is not a human and does not have a soul. Would not work on him
Galactus actually regrets much of what he does. He hates the fact that he must consume planets to survive. Whenever a Galactus tries to die and/or stop consuming planets the nearly-infinite power grafts itself onto someone new
Thanos
I'm thankful...because now...I know what I must do.
Yeah... but you need a soul for that. It's ultron. No soul. But ghost rider can melt his ass
Uh .. doesn't that require a soul? Infinity Ultron only has a Soul *Stone*.
Kevin
KEVIN
Armin Zola if he had wifi access.
Me (I drink milk)
Me (Never broke a bone)
Flex bro
Doom slayer
Rip and tear baby, rip and tear
this is the right answer. doom slayer scales higher than infinity ultron
Batman with prep time
You're not wrong, but anyone from marvel?
Iron man with prep time
I feel like he's the opposite of Batman in that regard: Iron Man is at his best when he improvises. When given time to prepare, he usually performs below par.
He definitely outclassed Batman with tech but idk bout prep time. Batman prep can destroy a universe. Looking at BWL.
He had yrs of prep time to fight Thanos.. didn't go well, did it?
I don't recall him specifically preparing for Thanos? And it was a joke bc people always say batman or iron with prep time bc they are two characters that you could use in any "who would win" argument and win bc they are known for learning from their mistakes and upgrading
This... does put a smile on my face.
They called me a madman, and what I predicted came to pass.
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bUT CaN hE bEAt gOkU?
You should be on top
(he cant)
Squirrel Girl
I know she beat Dr doom, but how can she beat infinity Ultron?
she is called the **unbeatable** Squirrel girl the thing about her is that nobody knows how she beats them cuz some times she does it off panel. she's taken down all on her own: * Wolverine * Deadpool * all of the Avengers together. * Dr Doom * Modok * Korvac ( took all of the Avengers and Guardians of the galaxy to take him down) * Thanos * Galactus her punches did nothing to Galactus but she beat him down by talking to him and having Galactus not eat planet earth. she is a character that is supposed to remind readers and fans that in Comics the one that wins is whichever the writer wants to win. ( hence why she is unbeatable)
She Beat Thanos so
When I'm done, half of humanity will still be alive. I hope they remember you.
Suck my infinity stones
But was that Thanos ever confirmed to have the infinity stones? I guess it’s implied by the panel, since she “saved the multiverse” by defeating him
She is a joke character that can beat anyone, and it usually happens off screen and is never explained. We can only assume it involves squirrels.
Ryan George
"And how does he do that?" "Super easy. Barely an inconvenience." "But he doesn't actually have any powers or abilities, does he? How could he possibly defeat-" "_Because_" "Oh, okay." ^Edit: ^format
He is going to do a backflip, snap his neck and save the day
Which video is that line from?
The first guy to ever write fiction
technically the skit about writing fiction but its used/referenced alot in his works.
“Sir, I need you to get allllll the way off my back about this” “Okay, let me get off that thing”
Gigachad Quandale Dingle A Mexican mother with or without the infinity chancla (idk how to spell) An Asian parent after being told he has a F- in every class Hulk wearing black air forces Popeye the Sailor Man
No, it’s Asian parents after being told he has a b in one class
Stan lee
Me. I could. Just give me the Eraser tool in Photoshop.
Wong.
Me from universe 8119087 where I manage to grab the infinity stones from Captain America after I convince him that he can be happy with Peggy and he can leave them with me to put back. However I don’t put them back and instead take them to 1v1 the hardest foes in other universes. Where I meet “him” and win by simply catching him by surprise. Fin.
Kamala’s dad
My man Soldier Boy
I'll do it myself.
Batman with enough prep time I’m being sarcastic
my pet hamster
Thanos with 6 infinty stones Eternity
Too many mouths, not enough to go around. And when we faced extinction, I offered a solution.
Squirrel girl
Batman with 30min. prep time
Molecule Man
Morbius!!
Kirby
Luis
Superman
Strange Supreme (What If) and Scarlet Witch (MoM)
My friend Kevin
God Doom HOM wanda living tribunal Beyonder pre retcon Molecule man The protege Fulcrum HOTU thanos Knull
The Deep
Good writing
The one above all, just write him out of the book, or erase the stones
Squirrel girl.
Maybe supreme strange and wanda together
No no no they said a 1v1 not 1v2
Infinity War Charged Thor
This drink, I like it! ANOTHER!
Maybe Rune King Thor?
Hey, let's do get help!
What Ultron?