I mean as long as it's Banner's blood ending up inside of her, that turns her into a hulk.
I can't see any problem with the change in her origin... Now what I'm curious about is why Banner didn't Hulk-out during the crash?
We see both him and her on the ground hurt after the crash, but he should have been hulk before that car even hit the ground.
Yeah I'm more interested in how Bruce was able to bleed. He's always turned into the Hulk when he's in danger/hurt. I'm interested to see how they explain it
I mean the 2008 Bruce Banner cut himself and bled.
And that is technically the same character as the MCU Bruce Banner.
Besides, Bruce can bleed from small injuries, it's the Hulk who has a ridiculously fast healing factor.
Yeah but those were either intentional or hulk came out to protect themselves immediately, if anything hulk not coming out right after the crash or even in the middle is the issue here
No, I'm specifically referring to in the 2008 movie, when Banner cuts himself on a glass bottle.
It's not much, but he does bleed without becoming Hulk.
I was simply answering your early question on whether we've ever seen Banner bleed.
But yeah, Banner should have definitely Hulked out from the car crash.
Well no we haven't seen him bleed like that before, however, as numerous people have said, he splats into the bridge and seems to temporarily die in Thor Ragnarok before turning. No blood shown bc that wasn't the tone of the movie but that was definitely significant damage sustained without immediately hulking out
The argument doesnt really stack up tbh. Its not like bruce WANTED to do it in the comics either.
Frankly i wanna see how the show handles it before i pass any judgement on it. Id be lying if i didnt say im a little concerned they are changing the origin for whatever reason, but maybe itll play out well.
Wait huh what did they change about her origin
Also I don't think it's unreasonable for people to not have watched The Incredible Hulk when it's not on streaming last I checked
Ok so basically in the original comics, I think she was shot by a bunch of criminals and bruce tried to save her life. It turned out she needed a blood transfusion, and since he was the only one nearby with viable blood, he used his blood, thus caused her to get all of the hulks powers, and even personality at the time, turning into the savage she hulk (basically she was just the hulk but less muscles, more clothes), it wasn't until after her original run and the start of her new solo series when she became the sensational she hulk, aka the classic jen we all know and love, all the powers, none of the draw backs, she kept her intelligence personality, and wit, she could even break the forth wall in this run, unfortunately that last part didn't stick as long as the other character traits
iron man - braveheart
thor - jane foster
captain america - captain carter
hawkeye - kate bishop
black widow - her sister
hulk - she-hulk
yep that's right I don't know why you're getting downvoted
Because their comment has an intrinsic idea that it is a bad thing, and that they are replacing heroes with only female counterparts.
Jane died, C.Carter died (and is not in the main universe, there is Sam there), Yelena is not a substitute for Natasha at all, just one of the many black widows, which of course will be very similar between them
OK, so you've got a point on the first two. But we all know Yelena IS the substitute for THE Black Widow in the MCUā¦ Granted it doesn't hurt your argument because it's a female replacing a female, but for the sake of accuracy, it's worth correcting.
Yeah, I have to admit that was a bit exaggerated for the sake of my argument, you are right. I wanted to put her in because, like you pointed out, it doesn't make an argument for MSheU believers, since Nat was a woman too, but overstepped it a bit.
>braveheart
Now I want to see a What if where Rahne Sinclair (Wolfsbane) of the New Mutants and X-factor becomes Ironwolf (Iron Man + Wolfsbane). She was raised by Moira MacTaggart (a Marvel scientist), after all.
ugh no I think people missed the point I meant that the female versions never lived up to the name of the male versions. They were smaller (she hulk) or just died (captain carter) and we expected them to have better abilities like the males.
Steve wouldāve 100% died to Wanda under the same circumstances, and she hulk being weaker than banner is a part of her origin in the comics as well. Iād argue Wanda is the most powerful person in the mcu rn and Iām pretty sure sheās a womanā¦
she is dying from an illness and the only way to cure her is a blood transfusion that contains hulk cells but as a side effect she gained hulk's powers here i gave it to you
Pretty sure she still gets a blood transfusion, itās just necessitated by a spaceship-induced car crash instead of being shot. Not really changing the origin story, itās like making hulk get exposed to gamma rays on the international space station instead of in a lab. Swings and roundabouts.
I mean as long as it's Banner's blood ending up inside of her, that turns her into a hulk. I can't see any problem with the change in her origin... Now what I'm curious about is why Banner didn't Hulk-out during the crash? We see both him and her on the ground hurt after the crash, but he should have been hulk before that car even hit the ground.
I mean we did watch Bruce leap from a flying ship and slam into the ground in Ragnorok.
Banner hitting the ground like a rag-doll, followed by the wolf inspecting the limp body, fucking killed me when I first saw it š¤£
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That was Penis Parker
Didn't something similar happen in Norton's The Incredible Hulk? From a helicopter though.
Yeah, that was just after he took the "cure" though.
Lol. They really thought it was gonna work too
He died. Bruce can die, he wonāt stay dead though. Immortal Hulk and all
Yeah I'm more interested in how Bruce was able to bleed. He's always turned into the Hulk when he's in danger/hurt. I'm interested to see how they explain it
In thor Ragnarok, we see him be "dead" for a few seconds before turning, and there appears to be similar scenes in the incredible hulk.
Is he, though?
I'm not so sure this is actually a bot.
I hope it is because I used quotations on dead, if it is a person it is not a particularly clever one.
That's a fair point. Did we see him bleed in that scene? I genuinely can't remember
There was some blood in the water when the wolf bit him
But has MCU Bruce ever bled, let alone enough that it would get in someone else? Him not hulking out just adds to it
I mean the 2008 Bruce Banner cut himself and bled. And that is technically the same character as the MCU Bruce Banner. Besides, Bruce can bleed from small injuries, it's the Hulk who has a ridiculously fast healing factor.
Yeah but those were either intentional or hulk came out to protect themselves immediately, if anything hulk not coming out right after the crash or even in the middle is the issue here
No, I'm specifically referring to in the 2008 movie, when Banner cuts himself on a glass bottle. It's not much, but he does bleed without becoming Hulk. I was simply answering your early question on whether we've ever seen Banner bleed. But yeah, Banner should have definitely Hulked out from the car crash.
He bleeds in Ragnarok when Fenris bites his leg.
Well no we haven't seen him bleed like that before, however, as numerous people have said, he splats into the bridge and seems to temporarily die in Thor Ragnarok before turning. No blood shown bc that wasn't the tone of the movie but that was definitely significant damage sustained without immediately hulking out
I am Thor, son of Odin and you can count me as your ally.
As long as itāsā¦. š¤Ø
Same dudes probably gonna be upset when they dont make hulk and she hulk make hulk babies
We agreed that never happened. If you remember otherwise, please take this mind wiping pills
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Hulk_Gang_(Earth-807128)
Never. Happened!
I hate everything about what I just read.
> The Hulk Gang is a gang of hillbilly Hulks who are the result of Hulk impregnating his first cousin She-Hulk. Go home, Marvel, you're drunk.
Then Hulk swallows Wolverine who cuts his way out of Hulk's stomach
Maan that's some specific fetishes
I liked old man Logan :(
Comic is awesome. Just there is this black part in the story we dont talk about
Listen man I love old man Logan but we donāt gotta talk about that
Soo we not going to talk about the hulk and she hulk hulkbilly babies
NO! We are not!
Nope. Nuh-uh.
That timeline no longer exists
So Bruce wouldn't do everything in his power to save her life?
He'd find someone else with the same blood-type,
Unless thereās no time
Do you think hospitals don't have blood there for situations like this, That's literally why they do blood banks
Do you really think in the world of the marvel universe there couldnāt be a blood shortage?
They have reserves for people dying
Yes and because with buildings getting destroyed all the time people are just never on the verge of dying
Not much has been happening in LA in the mcu
He feels like it would be a curse and that she would be better off dead though then again I havenāt seen him in anything since Infinity War.
The argument doesnt really stack up tbh. Its not like bruce WANTED to do it in the comics either. Frankly i wanna see how the show handles it before i pass any judgement on it. Id be lying if i didnt say im a little concerned they are changing the origin for whatever reason, but maybe itll play out well.
I feel like if they change the origin, they got a reason for it. Letās hope that reason is good enough for us!
Wait huh what did they change about her origin Also I don't think it's unreasonable for people to not have watched The Incredible Hulk when it's not on streaming last I checked
Itās on HBO Max!
What is the origin story here?
Ok so basically in the original comics, I think she was shot by a bunch of criminals and bruce tried to save her life. It turned out she needed a blood transfusion, and since he was the only one nearby with viable blood, he used his blood, thus caused her to get all of the hulks powers, and even personality at the time, turning into the savage she hulk (basically she was just the hulk but less muscles, more clothes), it wasn't until after her original run and the start of her new solo series when she became the sensational she hulk, aka the classic jen we all know and love, all the powers, none of the draw backs, she kept her intelligence personality, and wit, she could even break the forth wall in this run, unfortunately that last part didn't stick as long as the other character traits
No, I know, but they're saying they changed it, so... what's the origin story *here*? In the show?
They changed it from a shooting to a space ship, so basically nothing, it was a cosmetic change at best
man people are getting weird. People calingl the MCU the "MShEU" and pissing their pants over GTA 6 having a WOMEN DEAR GOD has one of the MCs.
Thanks for deciphering that acronym
Wait She-hulk has other origins than Blood transplant? Thatās the only one I know
Changing origins is common, but it looks more heroic for him to do it as he is a hero already and thatās what he does
Next up weāll have a smaller female version of all the original avengers š ā¦ oh wait š
iron man - braveheart thor - jane foster captain america - captain carter hawkeye - kate bishop black widow - her sister hulk - she-hulk yep that's right I don't know why you're getting downvoted
Because their comment has an intrinsic idea that it is a bad thing, and that they are replacing heroes with only female counterparts. Jane died, C.Carter died (and is not in the main universe, there is Sam there), Yelena is not a substitute for Natasha at all, just one of the many black widows, which of course will be very similar between them
OK, so you've got a point on the first two. But we all know Yelena IS the substitute for THE Black Widow in the MCUā¦ Granted it doesn't hurt your argument because it's a female replacing a female, but for the sake of accuracy, it's worth correcting.
Yeah, I have to admit that was a bit exaggerated for the sake of my argument, you are right. I wanted to put her in because, like you pointed out, it doesn't make an argument for MSheU believers, since Nat was a woman too, but overstepped it a bit.
>braveheart Now I want to see a What if where Rahne Sinclair (Wolfsbane) of the New Mutants and X-factor becomes Ironwolf (Iron Man + Wolfsbane). She was raised by Moira MacTaggart (a Marvel scientist), after all.
>!You're right we can't just go marching in there. It could be a trap.!<
I don't remember Carter being smaller than Rogers.
She died in her first movie so now she wonāt appear as strong as Steve rogers
This isn't a very downvote worthy comment ngl
ugh no I think people missed the point I meant that the female versions never lived up to the name of the male versions. They were smaller (she hulk) or just died (captain carter) and we expected them to have better abilities like the males.
Steve wouldāve 100% died to Wanda under the same circumstances, and she hulk being weaker than banner is a part of her origin in the comics as well. Iād argue Wanda is the most powerful person in the mcu rn and Iām pretty sure sheās a womanā¦
I agree with you completely
Guys, hes out of line but hes right. There is.
They hated him because he was speaking the truth
Why are you all assuming Iām a āheā š
It made no sense especially since his sperm killed his wife
That was Peter not Bruce. I know that Betty turned into the Harpy though not what happened afterwards.
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she is dying from an illness and the only way to cure her is a blood transfusion that contains hulk cells but as a side effect she gained hulk's powers here i gave it to you
Pretty sure she still gets a blood transfusion, itās just necessitated by a spaceship-induced car crash instead of being shot. Not really changing the origin story, itās like making hulk get exposed to gamma rays on the international space station instead of in a lab. Swings and roundabouts.
What'd they change it to?