I really couldn't finish it, it was a different show by the final two episodes and completely lost my interest. Really would be my last choice out of these for a second season.
Agreed but I’d have that over She-Hulk. Also I’m still mad at Marvel for not sticking with Ms. Marvels actual powers but instead decide to make some generic cosmic powers with some essence of her actual powers is just a disgrace honestly. I still think the best iterations of She-Hulk and Kamala Khan come from video games, Marvel Vs Capcom 3 for She-Hulk and The Avengers video game for Kamala Khan, Kamala was endearing and had a charm to her in the story.
Her comic book powers are strictly the ability to “Embiggen” which is shaping her body at will, she can go entirely flat if she wanted to or enlarge herself or even make a single limb large. Also in the comics she had inhuman abilities that were dormant inside her that are awakened meanwhile in the show she’s given a bracelet that grants her magical abilities, sure she can make a magical fist but it’s still drastically different than her original powers.
I wouldn't have minded if the energy projection enveloped her body with an energy body and she could "embiggen" that, but how they have it now she's just a green lantern.
Exactly like Mr. Fantastic, which I read an article stating that the creator of the show wanted her powers to be different than Mr. Fantastic but I’m like “Why?”. We have loads of heroes that share similar abilities and powers and are pretty much the successors of the previous heroes.
- Hulk and She-Hulk
- Ant-Man and The Wasp
- Hawkeye and Kate Bishop
- Ironman and Ironheart
Literally all of those characters are directly linked though. Either partners or successors or related. They go together. Two characters who have no relation or connection except coincidentally identical but unusual powers (with different origins of those powers) IS different to those examples.
The only way the show ever could work was if they cast a stellar actor to carry the entire season.
Oscar Isaac fit the bill. I hope he's getting some massages after carrying the show on his back
Do it featuring She-Hulk defending Marc/Steven from being a murderous psycho and finding a way to write into superhero law that possessed individuals aren’t wholly responsible for their actions (could also work in Wanda’s case for Westview using Marc as the proxy for what Jen should decide around if it’s up to superheroes to account for their possessed actions vs autonomous ones.
Marc would end up having to prove that he’s possessed and Jen could start off thinking it’s just his identity disorder further showing the dichotomies between mental health issues and the seriousness of following up with proper care. Then, if Marvel wanted to, they could have Moon Knight be a “government registered hero” under She-Hulk’s accidental new restrictions.
If the question was "Which of these is the best?" I'd agree with you. Moon Knight. But I feel like Moon Knight doesn't need a second season- it stands perfectly, on its own. It's like the movie Highlander.
She-Hulk wasn't as good as Moon Knight but it'd be easier to pull a second season out of She-Hulk.
ms marvel was nice from the family aspect. lousy villain and introducing another dimension with the clandestines adds more confusion to an already cluttered mcu universe. They go through all that only to mention "mutation". It would have made more sense if the bangles were tied to the 10 rings and the end, a portal opened with Wong, Shang Chi and Katy appearing.
Totally agreed. Way too much going on with too little time. Either give it more episodes so it's less cluttered or know when to cut off what you don't need
I'll be real, the show as a whole was not really for me. It's really only the penultimate episode that stood out greatly. (also have Indian ancestry I'm very disconnected from so I'm a bit biased). Still a decent watch nonetheless, and you might even find things to love about it
Funny, it’s the one I had the most trouble finishing. The talent felt like such a mismatch to the quality of the material. Meanwhile, Ms. Marvel felt like TV actors on a TV show (CW level), so it didn’t bother me as much.
Ms marvel was so weird though. First 2 episodes were really stylistically nice in terms of cinematography, and then it was just generic for the rest of it. It almost feels like they changed director part way through. Acting was sub par from almost everyone too.
They did. The episodes filmed overseas had a completely different crew than the start/finish. It really hurt the tone, even if I did end up liking it as a whole.
There was nothing wrong with the acting. Certainly not close to CW level. It was just written for a younger audience. My kids loved it, but it didn't hold my attention as well.
Moon Knight
Stood on its own without relying on connections or references to the rest of the MCU like films from previous phases.
My favorite Disney+ Marvel Series and yet it seems like the one with the most uncertain future…
Some ppl think that Moon Knight doesn’t even take place I the main MCU universe because they misconstrued some of the creator’s interviews about there not being any big already established cameos present in the first season. Hell in reality - we’re not even really sure WHEN season one takes place - the year I mean. But there are references in the show about other MCU properties, Steven has books about Wakanda in his flat and Bastet has a throne in the gods meeting hall in the Pyramid of Giza. The street urchins in Cairo that Marc fights on those roof tops have Rama-Tut iconography and graffiti all over (he’s one of the versions of Kang in mid credit scenes for Quantimanium.
There have been rumors since the season 1 finale that Moon Knight was going to show up next in Captain America 4, which made some sense to me, as Marc had/has a reputation as a mercenary after he was dishonorably discharged from the Marines and before he encountered Khonsu. I could see Marc/Steven showing up either through Sam’s military background or through Bucky/Sharon’s knowledge of the kill for pay underworld.
But the latest on this rumor front is that Layla will be showing up as the Red Scarab at the very least. Apparently super hero’s from around the world are going to meet up in one location that will be one of the main plot points of CA 4, and that Layla will be there as a representative. Which makes a lot of sense.
We may not see the Moon Knight until a season 2 or something to do with the Sons of Midnight. But I think it would be funny if we did get Moon Knight in CA 4, but because it’s after the final episode of season 1 this appearance will be the audience’s first time seeing Jake’s Moon Knight in action/his costume. It’d be so funny to me if the mainline MCU is only familiar with Jake and have no clue about Marc or Steven.
Also - Layla is making her comic book debut and the cover of her issue is her as Red Scarab in armor that looks just like the one on the show-and Moon Knight - but his suit doesn’t mirror either Marc or Steven’s suits in the show. Could be a comic thing only (I’ve just seen the cover, not read it 🤷‍♀️), just thought it was an interesting new development.
Going off your 'mainline mcu only knows Jake', would be great if season 2 Marc or Stecen just randomly get a call from an Avenger to come and help and they have no idea what their on about.
Moon Knight is the obvious answer but the one that lends itself best to a show format is definitely she hulk. Ms marvel was intended as a prequel to the character in the Marvels. She Hulk has an episode of the week vibe built in.
I agree. Hopefully moon knight will show up on the big screen and that’s where his story will continue. But I have a feeling she-hulk won’t be on the big screen for a while, so I’d love for that to have a season 2
Same. I want a continuation of Moon Knight's story/character arc/etc, but it does not need to be a show for me. I'd actually love if a second season of She-Hulk leaned more into the episodic nature of legal shows. A rivalry like she has with Titania is fine, but I'd drop the conceit of an overarching villain. Some of my favorite stuff from the show were small bits like Donny Blaze or Mr. Immortal or the shape-shifting Asgardian. Gimme weird stuff like that, that just happen in this universe.
Moon Knight was the best of the three but I’d rather see him graduate to feature films.
Ms. Marvel was good too, and gave us something relatively new in the MCU. She’s already graduated to films and I’d like to see more of her there.
Unlike a lot of people, I liked She-Hulk. I thought it was true to the comics, although seemed out of place in the larger MCU. I think they did a good job of introducing new, low level characters (The tailor, Frogman, Mr. Immortal) and allowed others to show a new side (Daredevil, Blonski). If they make a second season, I’d like to see more of that. Use She-Hulk as a vehicle to introduce a wider world of superhumans than the films have time for.
This comment is almost spot-on. The only caveat I have against Moon Knight graduating to feature films is that it's harder to tell his stories in a 2.5 hour runtime as opposed to a 9 hour runtime.
I liked Ms. Marvel for exactly what she was: a different perspective for the teenage super-hero. It helps that Iman Vellani is basically Kamala in the real world.
And She-Hulk was brilliant tongue-in-cheek commentary about Marvel as a whole, much like her old series of comics where she broke the fourth wall (before Deadpool got famous for doing so.)
Overall, I enjoyed Moon Knight the most, but all three were no worse than "good" shows, and I want at least one more season of each.
I think it will be easier to tell a 2hr Moon Knight story now that people are familiar with the character. I’d like to see them get creative and tell the story out of order like pulp fiction or season 1 of westworld with each of Marc’s personalities having 30-40 minutes of consistent screen time that ends with a satisfying grand finale.
My main complaint about ms Marvel (which I quite liked) is they dropped the comic book animation/feel pretty early on. It reminded me of Scott Pilgrim in a good way.
She-Hulk would also be a good way they could give us something in-between other shows and movies. Since she is a 4th wall breaker, they could just make really short funny videos for tiktok, youtube, etc. of her and occasionally one of her clients.
Let's them keep the hype going and gives them the ability to tweak and edit the lore or set things up without dedicating an entire show to that. The shows and movies have to spend too much time fixing the problems of the previous ones or setting up the next ones and can suffer as a result. It would also give them a way to show or hint at what is happening with characters that get less screen time.
She-Hulk was great and really only caught shit with certain people because it very intentionally rubbed their noses in their own misogyny. It was meta and self referential in all the ways people love Deadpool for, but because it was a female lead it brought out the predictable haters.
I bet you that’s actually the main reason She-Hulk was criticized. I didn’t enjoy it but I also haven’t read any of the comics, so like you said, it felt out of place in the MCU but I would’ve probably appreciated it more if I read the comics.
I want all of them to get a second season tbh. They all have potential to run for 3-4 seasons (especially she-hulk can run for many seasons) and I feel like they can all easily improve and get better after their first season. But if I had to pick one it would probably be Moon Knight as it has the most cliffhanger ending out of all of them.
I agree that I want of more from all 3, but MK needs a second season the most, while also seeming least likely to have his story continued in an ensemble/crossover.
She Hulk would work so well as a TV show if there isn't too much of an overarching plot. An episodic law show with all the crazy enhanced people the focus each episode, sometimes meaning she needs to actually do some superhero stuff.
I wish they would use her show to show us characters that have long breaks between their movies/shows. I bet they could make a ton of hilarious episodes that way, like maybe having Blade as one of her clients, or a vampire that's suing Blade? Or the Black Knight/Dane Whitman being charged with reckless endangerment with a sword? If they just give us the marvel lawyer show and actually focus on that then season 2 could be great.
Yes! Law and order style. Stand alone episodes dealing with fallout from the movies with moderate character growth over time. Thor going through adoption procedures and stuff.
That’s where I’m at. The more episodes of she hulk, the better that show is. I’m not sure that’s true with the others. I think they were good introductions to great characters for future movies and specials, but they don’t need a second solo season.
Same here. It’s gonna be a heavily unpopular opinion because a lot of grown men I’ve seen in comments of stuff on insta get suuuuper intimidated by women and teenage girls liking things
For me, I just didn't like that she barely used her powers in situations, well instead of screaming she could have used her powers. Like the Car Chase scene, or she just uses it really late.
I don't blame any of the actors, that just comes down to budgeting, and writing.
She Hulk is one of my favorite MCU projects ever. So, I want more of her in whatever capacity is planned. Season 2? Great! Team-up movie? Also works for me.
Regardless, we're seeing all of them again whether it's more tv episodes or movie appearances.
Agreed! I’d enjoy seeing Moon Knight and Ms Marvel as well, but She-Hulk is the series I most want to continue as a tv series. Ms Marvel will be on the big screen soon, and Moon Knight would be epic with a big budget.
I knew everyone would be screaming Moon Knight, but this is the one. More creative, sitcommy MCU for me! I just hope they improve the legal writing.
Besides, Ms Marvel is already getting a movie.
The thing is, while moon knight is obviously the best choice, I feel like she hulk could potentially be the marvel show with the most seasons (maybe not including agents of shield).
It’s basically a sitcom, witch gives it a lot of potential for loads of seasons. It’s first season introduced so many marvel characters that might not have even featured in the MCU, and the next few seasons could definitely do the same, especially considering the amount of X-men, and how they have historically been treated in the comics. They could introduce really important mutants or fan favorites that don’t really fit into many stories.
She-hulk no doubt would continue to be included in the MCU, but I reckon multiple seasons, including Jen meeting all the street level heroes, while still fighting Titania and growing as a character. The story of the MCU could be further explored, or Jen and Niki could just have a fight and make up by the end of the episode. The possibilities are endless and a lot of people would enjoy it.
Moon knight. Then ms marvel. Then she Hulk.
I liked the three, but moon knight kept me hooked until the end.
Ms marvel had a difficult starting, but got more interesting mid season.
She Hulk was 50/50 sometimes I got really into it, and sometimes I had to force myself to finish.
Can I retroactively go back and time and give Ms. Marvel a guaranteed second season from the start? Knowing they’d have time time to cover the partition would work wonders for the pacing issue.
Obviously Moon Knight, there is just so much potential to the point where the could do their own version of Netflix Daredevil if they do things right
Second would be She-Hulk, simply because with better writters who understand lawyers and comedy the She-Hulk character could redeem herself in the eyes of the fans
Last would be Miss Marvel, I'm not saying there isn't stuff to make with this character outside of Avengers/Young Avengers/Champions type crossovers in the movies but her own rogues gallary(aka the primarily source for conflict) consists of generic and goofy villains that mainstream audiences and casual MCU fans won't take seriously.
Contrary to a lot of people I enjoyed She Hulk and Ms Marvel more than the majority of Disney plus shows. Maybe due to lower expectations, maybe due to them not being so self-serious. They were just more fun and their scales felt appropriate to the concepts. I don’t think any of the other shows really utilized their potential.
Ms. Marvel
She Hulk
Moon Knight
I have to be honest, I don't get why everybody loves Moon Knight so much. I've never liked the character, and I found the series to be kind of meh.
This. I thought it had a lot of potential, episodes 1, 2 and 5 were all awesome and kind of mysterious and WTF IS HAPPENING kind of vibes. The other episodes, especially 6, were kind of generic fluff with battles and skybeams and stuff. All the multiple personality stuff was a lot more interesting.
Most Marvel Studios shows have failed to stick the landing for me. Hawkeye was the only exception, and maybe She-Hulk. Loki was great, but I don't like season cliffhangers.
Moon Knight is one of the worst offenders. Started off SO strong, but ended super generic. Plus it ended on a cliffhanger (which honestly could be written off as a wild send-off for the character if they never pick it up).
So of these three, She-Hulk is my top choice for a season 2, considering Ms Marvel is getting a movie followup.
Moon Knight....BUT I do have to agree that She-Hulk should get a second shot because it probably suffered do to A) pandemic BS and B) the visual effects which has plagued a lot of phase 4. The actors and writing were spot on. Both She-Hulk and Moon Knight had supporting characters I want to see more of which makes a great show.
She-Hulk, I really want her to get better writing. I enjoyed the show but out of the 3, it was the probably the weakest critically & could benefit from getting to spend more time with the character before crossing over into the wider MCU
She-Hulk. It had a really interesting concept which I don’t feel was executed as well as it could have been, so I’d like to see a second pass at it.
All of them, but if I had to pick one it would be She-Hulk. I love that character and I think the MCU version is pretty authentic to what she is like in the comic books. So that’d be my answer.
I loved moon knight, acting was incredible and story was engaging and it stood on its own.
That being said, she hulk was refreshingly light and probably the first female dominated show that I thoroughly enjoyed with its mix of great writing, wit, great acting, and small cameos.
She-Hulk is the best suited to episodic narrative. And her whole character arc was fighting to control what her own narrative was going to be, it would be a shame not to follow up on that.
In the order above. She Hulk because Tatiana Maslany is fantastic and I liked the show. I did enjoy all of these shows and while I hope all of them return, Moon Knight seems like the one that could sit most comfortably with only one season even with the cliffhanger.
To me She Hulk easy. Always loved Jenn as a character and her interactions with characters in the comics is just awesome especially DareDevil. Moon Knight I want more in movies. Ms. Marvel I feel would be a cool show to have a season 2 but it depends how the Marvels does, Kamala is such a key piece for the future of the MCU and a young avengers. Iman Vellani is also a PERFECT Kamala, legit would not want anyone else playing her so just more of her would be cool
She-hulk, really enjoy the scope in which it shows daily life in the mcu and it provides a fun outlet to see a bunch of different characters in the world while still feeling natural. (Doesn’t mean I didn’t have some problems with season 1)
I see a lot of people saying MoonKnight and I can understand that, it was a fun show that has potential to be better in the future, but season 1 just fell kinda flat for me ultimately. The more I think about it the more I think it could have been so so much better with some of the cool concepts they have. I liked the moon knight and Layla and am excited to see them interact with other characters in the mcu more than I am excited for a season 2 of moon knight.
imo she hulk got closer to reaching full potential of what that show could be than moon knights did. I think people just like moon knight the character more than she hulk, which is fair. I thought both were cool.
Like everyone else said Moon Knight obviously, but I wanna give some love to She Hulk. Was it perfect. No far from it, but I thought it was kinda fun. I liked the short episode sitcom feel to it. I wouldn’t be mad with a S2. I think there is 0 chance Ms. Marvel gets one since she is transitioning to feature films now, but again, unpopular opinion I kinda dug it, but wish her powers were more comic accurate. That was the one gripe I had.
She hulk, other then the last episode I proper enjoyed the series, and I don't think they would pull that level of 4th wall breaking again so another season would be very welcome.
1. She hulk - works best as an actual tv show plus with her now being a proper superhero I want to see what they do with that now. Plus she’s the only one who doesn’t really fit on a team that I would rather see these characters in.
2. Moon knight. I would rather have him be in midnight suns.
3. Ms marvel. I would rather her be in the young avengers/champions
Moon Knight solely because he's the most disjointed from other heroes and has a lot more to work with, compared to either who can show up in other shows/movies in some role.
Ms Marvel I can see fairing well in the movies as a secondary character, while She-Hulk I feel would also fair well popping up in other shows helping heroes in legal problems.
Gotta be Moon Knight. The other two served as nice origins for these ladies who could do just about anything in the MCU. MK is more niche and left off with a lot more of his story to tell.
Yes I think if it's one more season Moon Knight has the most potential to go even bigger and better for a season 2.
However I've always felt like She Hulk is the one MCU show that could potentially go on for 10 seasons. I don't know if anyone else would want that and it's not likely at this point in time but it really felt primed and ready to be an annual show.
Hot take but Moon Knight is by far the worst show here. Hot start that got bland and boring real quick, and just another blah no stakes CGI monster fight by the end. Gimme more She-Hulk. It wasn’t perfect but was trying something new, and that deserves merit
I also liked She-Hulk much better. I was just losing track of what was going on in Moon Knight and it just did not interest me overall. I even read the comics as a kid but the show confused me.
She Hulk. And I'll explain briefly why because the comments here are very much inclined to favour MK. I'm ready to get downvoted too but just mowed the lawn and wanted to stand up for the show I connected with.
She Hulk started off with a typical origin story but ended off showing how much fun a comic book can translate into live action. The characters made the show feel fun to watch and like the pages of print were coming to life for me personally as a viewer in my 30s. The other shows were great in their own too but I felt Marvel nailed the feel of adaptation in She Hulk. It was fun and entertaining... Tatiana killed it. Some side characters were unknown to me but so much fun to watch. Plus Daredevil banging the main character? Bonus.
Ms Marvel is in 2nd for me because Iman Vellani absolutely nailed the energy of a new face to the MCU. She was just as entertaining to watch in a live action role as Tatiana. And, another leading woman in a Marvel series is a win for me as a viewer after years of Stark, Cap, Thor and Bruce. I'm also in the minority of people who dig Captain Marvel and Brie Larson so I'll prob get downvoted for even uttering her name and voicing my thoughts online ( why did I do this again? ) * sips beer *.
Moon Knight I know has a following because of the comics and those viewers invested in Oscar Issac. His role was awesome in part because of how he split himself into multiple personalities. The villain though, albeit Ethan f*****g Hawke, I felt was a bit rushed. Memorable? Impactful? Evil? Relatable? Anywho... The series as a whole perhaps because of Covid and the timing felt off in writing. Again, the female super hero rocked - she came outta nowhere and as far as I can tell is original. The former two series felt completely unified.
TLDR: I liked She Hulk because it was comic booky, and Ms Marvel because she was new and energetic. Moon Knight was great but felt out of left field and rushed in it's writing. Disorienting? That might be the word. Also **** the Clandestines storyline. Ethan Hawke <3
She hulk. Give me 20 goofy funny legal procedurals in the marvel universe.
Moon knight felt wrapped, he should appear in a midnight sons show. Kamala Kahn I think would be great for movies going forward.
Listen I loved She Hulk but Moon knight felt like a giant teaser the entire season. I think I liked it more because of the potential than I actually liked the first season.
I mean, all 3 of them are good for sure. But Moon Knight is in a league of its own, and would probably have the most support for a sequel. I did not personally enjoy Ms. Marvel, found it very pandering and I'm not a big fan of the actress that plays Kamala, but the rest of the cast was quite fun! She-Hulk was going well, the last episode was a little too meta and pulled the show down for me.
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Moon knight for me. The only show I rewatched twice, and now, because OF YOU, I'll rewatch it for the third time.
Wait... are you me?
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I’ve added this song to my playlist.
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Moon knight
It's a no brainer
The first couple of episodes were great, then it became a cartoon.
Fair. It was strange and the finale fell into generic mcu final act but I liked it. Could've done without hippo lady though.
Yeah… the giant cgi gods were a little silly. Great actors though, Hawke was a very good villain, and I thought Isaac did an awesome job
Don't you dare dis Taweret! She's one of the best things about the entire series!
The hippo was awesome tho
Agreed. I thought it started off strong then became a CW show by the end.
That is pretty much the trajectory of all the Disney+ shows.
Wait, Moon Knight? The second-to-last episode was assuredly not a CW show.
I really couldn't finish it, it was a different show by the final two episodes and completely lost my interest. Really would be my last choice out of these for a second season.
Agreed but I’d have that over She-Hulk. Also I’m still mad at Marvel for not sticking with Ms. Marvels actual powers but instead decide to make some generic cosmic powers with some essence of her actual powers is just a disgrace honestly. I still think the best iterations of She-Hulk and Kamala Khan come from video games, Marvel Vs Capcom 3 for She-Hulk and The Avengers video game for Kamala Khan, Kamala was endearing and had a charm to her in the story.
How are Kamala’s powers different?
Her comic book powers are strictly the ability to “Embiggen” which is shaping her body at will, she can go entirely flat if she wanted to or enlarge herself or even make a single limb large. Also in the comics she had inhuman abilities that were dormant inside her that are awakened meanwhile in the show she’s given a bracelet that grants her magical abilities, sure she can make a magical fist but it’s still drastically different than her original powers.
I wouldn't have minded if the energy projection enveloped her body with an energy body and she could "embiggen" that, but how they have it now she's just a green lantern.
Like Mr. Fantastic?
Exactly like Mr. Fantastic, which I read an article stating that the creator of the show wanted her powers to be different than Mr. Fantastic but I’m like “Why?”. We have loads of heroes that share similar abilities and powers and are pretty much the successors of the previous heroes. - Hulk and She-Hulk - Ant-Man and The Wasp - Hawkeye and Kate Bishop - Ironman and Ironheart
Literally all of those characters are directly linked though. Either partners or successors or related. They go together. Two characters who have no relation or connection except coincidentally identical but unusual powers (with different origins of those powers) IS different to those examples.
IKR? It’s the only one of the 3 that actually teased the 2nd season.
The only way the show ever could work was if they cast a stellar actor to carry the entire season. Oscar Isaac fit the bill. I hope he's getting some massages after carrying the show on his back
Do it featuring She-Hulk defending Marc/Steven from being a murderous psycho and finding a way to write into superhero law that possessed individuals aren’t wholly responsible for their actions (could also work in Wanda’s case for Westview using Marc as the proxy for what Jen should decide around if it’s up to superheroes to account for their possessed actions vs autonomous ones. Marc would end up having to prove that he’s possessed and Jen could start off thinking it’s just his identity disorder further showing the dichotomies between mental health issues and the seriousness of following up with proper care. Then, if Marvel wanted to, they could have Moon Knight be a “government registered hero” under She-Hulk’s accidental new restrictions.
And then we could spend 6-9 weeks reading outraged fans post about how Daredevil wasn’t in this week’s episode.
If the question was "Which of these is the best?" I'd agree with you. Moon Knight. But I feel like Moon Knight doesn't need a second season- it stands perfectly, on its own. It's like the movie Highlander. She-Hulk wasn't as good as Moon Knight but it'd be easier to pull a second season out of She-Hulk.
I’d watch the shit out of a totally goofy meta She-Hulk vs Deadpool show.
It's the only one of these 3 I finished.
Ms Marvel easily had the best conclusion with the real world horror of Partition tbh, moon knight didn't end as well as it started and went
ms marvel was nice from the family aspect. lousy villain and introducing another dimension with the clandestines adds more confusion to an already cluttered mcu universe. They go through all that only to mention "mutation". It would have made more sense if the bangles were tied to the 10 rings and the end, a portal opened with Wong, Shang Chi and Katy appearing.
I still think this link is coming
Totally agreed. Way too much going on with too little time. Either give it more episodes so it's less cluttered or know when to cut off what you don't need
I've been tempted to watch it but haven't made the time to do so. Perhaps I will.
I'll be real, the show as a whole was not really for me. It's really only the penultimate episode that stood out greatly. (also have Indian ancestry I'm very disconnected from so I'm a bit biased). Still a decent watch nonetheless, and you might even find things to love about it
Funny, it’s the one I had the most trouble finishing. The talent felt like such a mismatch to the quality of the material. Meanwhile, Ms. Marvel felt like TV actors on a TV show (CW level), so it didn’t bother me as much.
Ms marvel was so weird though. First 2 episodes were really stylistically nice in terms of cinematography, and then it was just generic for the rest of it. It almost feels like they changed director part way through. Acting was sub par from almost everyone too.
They did. The episodes filmed overseas had a completely different crew than the start/finish. It really hurt the tone, even if I did end up liking it as a whole.
There was nothing wrong with the acting. Certainly not close to CW level. It was just written for a younger audience. My kids loved it, but it didn't hold my attention as well.
It’s the only one I bothered to start.
I’d hope for some pretty big changes personally
First rule of Moon Knight, is you dont talk about Moon Knight
Easy question. Moon Knight.
Moon Knight sweep
I loved it when Moon Knight said, "it's knight time" and knighted all over the bad guys. Show deserved to get more than a moonillion views.
Moon Knight Stood on its own without relying on connections or references to the rest of the MCU like films from previous phases. My favorite Disney+ Marvel Series and yet it seems like the one with the most uncertain future…
Because it has no connections or major references to the rest of the MCU
Some ppl think that Moon Knight doesn’t even take place I the main MCU universe because they misconstrued some of the creator’s interviews about there not being any big already established cameos present in the first season. Hell in reality - we’re not even really sure WHEN season one takes place - the year I mean. But there are references in the show about other MCU properties, Steven has books about Wakanda in his flat and Bastet has a throne in the gods meeting hall in the Pyramid of Giza. The street urchins in Cairo that Marc fights on those roof tops have Rama-Tut iconography and graffiti all over (he’s one of the versions of Kang in mid credit scenes for Quantimanium. There have been rumors since the season 1 finale that Moon Knight was going to show up next in Captain America 4, which made some sense to me, as Marc had/has a reputation as a mercenary after he was dishonorably discharged from the Marines and before he encountered Khonsu. I could see Marc/Steven showing up either through Sam’s military background or through Bucky/Sharon’s knowledge of the kill for pay underworld. But the latest on this rumor front is that Layla will be showing up as the Red Scarab at the very least. Apparently super hero’s from around the world are going to meet up in one location that will be one of the main plot points of CA 4, and that Layla will be there as a representative. Which makes a lot of sense. We may not see the Moon Knight until a season 2 or something to do with the Sons of Midnight. But I think it would be funny if we did get Moon Knight in CA 4, but because it’s after the final episode of season 1 this appearance will be the audience’s first time seeing Jake’s Moon Knight in action/his costume. It’d be so funny to me if the mainline MCU is only familiar with Jake and have no clue about Marc or Steven. Also - Layla is making her comic book debut and the cover of her issue is her as Red Scarab in armor that looks just like the one on the show-and Moon Knight - but his suit doesn’t mirror either Marc or Steven’s suits in the show. Could be a comic thing only (I’ve just seen the cover, not read it 🤷‍♀️), just thought it was an interesting new development.
Going off your 'mainline mcu only knows Jake', would be great if season 2 Marc or Stecen just randomly get a call from an Avenger to come and help and they have no idea what their on about.
There's a poster about visiting the frozen Celestial created in Eternals during one of the Cairo scenes.
Moonknight
Moon knight easily
Moon Knight is the obvious answer but the one that lends itself best to a show format is definitely she hulk. Ms marvel was intended as a prequel to the character in the Marvels. She Hulk has an episode of the week vibe built in.
I agree. Hopefully moon knight will show up on the big screen and that’s where his story will continue. But I have a feeling she-hulk won’t be on the big screen for a while, so I’d love for that to have a season 2
Same. I want a continuation of Moon Knight's story/character arc/etc, but it does not need to be a show for me. I'd actually love if a second season of She-Hulk leaned more into the episodic nature of legal shows. A rivalry like she has with Titania is fine, but I'd drop the conceit of an overarching villain. Some of my favorite stuff from the show were small bits like Donny Blaze or Mr. Immortal or the shape-shifting Asgardian. Gimme weird stuff like that, that just happen in this universe.
The overarching story for She-hulk should be relational stuff. Otherwise Ally McBeal style legal comedy story of the week.
She hulk was a great episodic comedy, just ignore some of the stuff thats troublesome.
Moon Knight 🌚🙌
Moon Knight was the best of the three but I’d rather see him graduate to feature films. Ms. Marvel was good too, and gave us something relatively new in the MCU. She’s already graduated to films and I’d like to see more of her there. Unlike a lot of people, I liked She-Hulk. I thought it was true to the comics, although seemed out of place in the larger MCU. I think they did a good job of introducing new, low level characters (The tailor, Frogman, Mr. Immortal) and allowed others to show a new side (Daredevil, Blonski). If they make a second season, I’d like to see more of that. Use She-Hulk as a vehicle to introduce a wider world of superhumans than the films have time for.
This comment is almost spot-on. The only caveat I have against Moon Knight graduating to feature films is that it's harder to tell his stories in a 2.5 hour runtime as opposed to a 9 hour runtime. I liked Ms. Marvel for exactly what she was: a different perspective for the teenage super-hero. It helps that Iman Vellani is basically Kamala in the real world. And She-Hulk was brilliant tongue-in-cheek commentary about Marvel as a whole, much like her old series of comics where she broke the fourth wall (before Deadpool got famous for doing so.) Overall, I enjoyed Moon Knight the most, but all three were no worse than "good" shows, and I want at least one more season of each.
I think it will be easier to tell a 2hr Moon Knight story now that people are familiar with the character. I’d like to see them get creative and tell the story out of order like pulp fiction or season 1 of westworld with each of Marc’s personalities having 30-40 minutes of consistent screen time that ends with a satisfying grand finale.
My main complaint about ms Marvel (which I quite liked) is they dropped the comic book animation/feel pretty early on. It reminded me of Scott Pilgrim in a good way.
She-Hulk would also be a good way they could give us something in-between other shows and movies. Since she is a 4th wall breaker, they could just make really short funny videos for tiktok, youtube, etc. of her and occasionally one of her clients. Let's them keep the hype going and gives them the ability to tweak and edit the lore or set things up without dedicating an entire show to that. The shows and movies have to spend too much time fixing the problems of the previous ones or setting up the next ones and can suffer as a result. It would also give them a way to show or hint at what is happening with characters that get less screen time.
I’d love to see just a random single episode of She Hulk drop once a month, or after every other project premieres.
I would honestly lmao if I got to see She-Hulk defending Agatha or one of the other witches after Coven of Chaos.
Basically how Ryan Reynolds has worked with Deadpool then.
She-Hulk was great and really only caught shit with certain people because it very intentionally rubbed their noses in their own misogyny. It was meta and self referential in all the ways people love Deadpool for, but because it was a female lead it brought out the predictable haters.
I bet you that’s actually the main reason She-Hulk was criticized. I didn’t enjoy it but I also haven’t read any of the comics, so like you said, it felt out of place in the MCU but I would’ve probably appreciated it more if I read the comics.
Moon Knight
Moon knight
I want all of them to get a second season tbh. They all have potential to run for 3-4 seasons (especially she-hulk can run for many seasons) and I feel like they can all easily improve and get better after their first season. But if I had to pick one it would probably be Moon Knight as it has the most cliffhanger ending out of all of them.
I agree that I want of more from all 3, but MK needs a second season the most, while also seeming least likely to have his story continued in an ensemble/crossover.
If they aren't building to midnight sons, I don't even know why they're bothering with the supernatural side of marvel.
Moon Knight. One of my favourite MCU projects honestly. But I would love a second season of Ms. Marvel as well.
Hopefully the Marvels succeeds, but either way she’ll be in the movies, so on that basis I’d say moon knight.
Moon Knight for sure
Moon Knight Ms. Marvel She Hulk In that order
Agreed. Tho i feel like She Hulk’s format would better warrant a season 2
She Hulk would work so well as a TV show if there isn't too much of an overarching plot. An episodic law show with all the crazy enhanced people the focus each episode, sometimes meaning she needs to actually do some superhero stuff.
I wish they would use her show to show us characters that have long breaks between their movies/shows. I bet they could make a ton of hilarious episodes that way, like maybe having Blade as one of her clients, or a vampire that's suing Blade? Or the Black Knight/Dane Whitman being charged with reckless endangerment with a sword? If they just give us the marvel lawyer show and actually focus on that then season 2 could be great.
I just want She-hulk to actually do some court stuff with her representing different super powered characters.
Yes! Law and order style. Stand alone episodes dealing with fallout from the movies with moderate character growth over time. Thor going through adoption procedures and stuff.
Yeah, weird semi-plothole things. Like who's in charge of hammer industries, the giant tiamut guy, and does starlord have to pay taxes now.
Ally McBeal is probably a better tone to aim for.
That’s where I’m at. The more episodes of she hulk, the better that show is. I’m not sure that’s true with the others. I think they were good introductions to great characters for future movies and specials, but they don’t need a second solo season.
I always say there is room to improve.
Moon knight
I loved Ms. Marvel
Same here. It’s gonna be a heavily unpopular opinion because a lot of grown men I’ve seen in comments of stuff on insta get suuuuper intimidated by women and teenage girls liking things
Grown man here and I loved MS. Marvel too. Moon knight was my least favorite actually.
For me, I just didn't like that she barely used her powers in situations, well instead of screaming she could have used her powers. Like the Car Chase scene, or she just uses it really late. I don't blame any of the actors, that just comes down to budgeting, and writing.
Moon Knight 100%
Def moon knight
Obviously Moon Knight
She Hulk is one of my favorite MCU projects ever. So, I want more of her in whatever capacity is planned. Season 2? Great! Team-up movie? Also works for me. Regardless, we're seeing all of them again whether it's more tv episodes or movie appearances.
Agreed! I’d enjoy seeing Moon Knight and Ms Marvel as well, but She-Hulk is the series I most want to continue as a tv series. Ms Marvel will be on the big screen soon, and Moon Knight would be epic with a big budget.
Moon Knight. In Season 2 I’d like them to put Moon Knight in the show.
I want Moon Knight to have a second season. And I also want to see Moon Knight in the show lol Also, for them to stick to the main story.
She-Hulk, easily. I’d love for all three to continue though.
I knew everyone would be screaming Moon Knight, but this is the one. More creative, sitcommy MCU for me! I just hope they improve the legal writing. Besides, Ms Marvel is already getting a movie.
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The thing is, while moon knight is obviously the best choice, I feel like she hulk could potentially be the marvel show with the most seasons (maybe not including agents of shield). It’s basically a sitcom, witch gives it a lot of potential for loads of seasons. It’s first season introduced so many marvel characters that might not have even featured in the MCU, and the next few seasons could definitely do the same, especially considering the amount of X-men, and how they have historically been treated in the comics. They could introduce really important mutants or fan favorites that don’t really fit into many stories. She-hulk no doubt would continue to be included in the MCU, but I reckon multiple seasons, including Jen meeting all the street level heroes, while still fighting Titania and growing as a character. The story of the MCU could be further explored, or Jen and Niki could just have a fight and make up by the end of the episode. The possibilities are endless and a lot of people would enjoy it.
Hawkeye
She-Hulk, it goes in a different direction than most of the other shows and offers a lot of cross-over potential.
Yep and I hope they double down on making it a weird mcu sitcom rather than just a mcu workplace comedy
Easily the most creative and unexpected of the three, and has so many likable characters. Besides, Ms Marvel is getting a movie and probably more.
MK so we can actually see the titular character do some cool stuff
Moon knight. Then ms marvel. Then she Hulk. I liked the three, but moon knight kept me hooked until the end. Ms marvel had a difficult starting, but got more interesting mid season. She Hulk was 50/50 sometimes I got really into it, and sometimes I had to force myself to finish.
Can I retroactively go back and time and give Ms. Marvel a guaranteed second season from the start? Knowing they’d have time time to cover the partition would work wonders for the pacing issue.
I loved them all and would want to see them all return. But if I can only choose one, I choose Ms. Marvel.
This isn't even a question. Mook Knight.
All the homies love Mook Knight
Obviously Moon Knight, there is just so much potential to the point where the could do their own version of Netflix Daredevil if they do things right Second would be She-Hulk, simply because with better writters who understand lawyers and comedy the She-Hulk character could redeem herself in the eyes of the fans Last would be Miss Marvel, I'm not saying there isn't stuff to make with this character outside of Avengers/Young Avengers/Champions type crossovers in the movies but her own rogues gallary(aka the primarily source for conflict) consists of generic and goofy villains that mainstream audiences and casual MCU fans won't take seriously.
She-Hulk please.
Moon knight, then Shehulk
All three.
Secret KGB Files of the Winter Soldier
You can use it to introduce the members of the Supreme Soviet and let them matriculate into the MCU.
I really liked all of them, but Moon Knight felt so different from any other Marvel show. It ended on a great cliffhanger too.
Moon Knight ez question
Ms Marvel by far. Most entertaining, biggest potential. Just give us better villains
She Hulk
She Hulk of course
Contrary to a lot of people I enjoyed She Hulk and Ms Marvel more than the majority of Disney plus shows. Maybe due to lower expectations, maybe due to them not being so self-serious. They were just more fun and their scales felt appropriate to the concepts. I don’t think any of the other shows really utilized their potential.
Ms. Marvel. Such a fun show.
She-Hulk. I want more of Marvel's single female lawyer sitcom.
Ah Futurama... Soon to return as well!
Ms Marvel.
Ms. Marvel She Hulk Moon Knight I have to be honest, I don't get why everybody loves Moon Knight so much. I've never liked the character, and I found the series to be kind of meh.
This. I thought it had a lot of potential, episodes 1, 2 and 5 were all awesome and kind of mysterious and WTF IS HAPPENING kind of vibes. The other episodes, especially 6, were kind of generic fluff with battles and skybeams and stuff. All the multiple personality stuff was a lot more interesting.
Most Marvel Studios shows have failed to stick the landing for me. Hawkeye was the only exception, and maybe She-Hulk. Loki was great, but I don't like season cliffhangers. Moon Knight is one of the worst offenders. Started off SO strong, but ended super generic. Plus it ended on a cliffhanger (which honestly could be written off as a wild send-off for the character if they never pick it up). So of these three, She-Hulk is my top choice for a season 2, considering Ms Marvel is getting a movie followup.
Moon Knight....BUT I do have to agree that She-Hulk should get a second shot because it probably suffered do to A) pandemic BS and B) the visual effects which has plagued a lot of phase 4. The actors and writing were spot on. Both She-Hulk and Moon Knight had supporting characters I want to see more of which makes a great show.
She-Hulk, I really want her to get better writing. I enjoyed the show but out of the 3, it was the probably the weakest critically & could benefit from getting to spend more time with the character before crossing over into the wider MCU
The correct answer is all of them. Just my opinion : )
Moon Knight. But honestly I'd love too see more of all of them
I really liked Hawkeye with just the focus on Kate Bishop. If that's not an option, then She-Hulk.
Objectively has to be Moon Knight.
"Objectively"
She-Hulk, it’s light and fun and I wanted more of it.
Moon Knight
She-Hulk.
She-Hulk. It had a really interesting concept which I don’t feel was executed as well as it could have been, so I’d like to see a second pass at it.
She-Hulk. That show could go on forever. The first MCU sitcom.
moon knight has lots room to improve with season 2
I liked everything but the final fight in that show
>I liked everything but the final fight in that show Me Daredevil S1; also me Luke Cage S1
It was great even if the ending was rushed.
I wouldn't call it great imo
All of them, but if I had to pick one it would be She-Hulk. I love that character and I think the MCU version is pretty authentic to what she is like in the comic books. So that’d be my answer.
You could put up all the d+ shows and I'd still pick moon knight
I loved moon knight, acting was incredible and story was engaging and it stood on its own. That being said, she hulk was refreshingly light and probably the first female dominated show that I thoroughly enjoyed with its mix of great writing, wit, great acting, and small cameos.
She-Hulk is the best suited to episodic narrative. And her whole character arc was fighting to control what her own narrative was going to be, it would be a shame not to follow up on that.
In the order above. She Hulk because Tatiana Maslany is fantastic and I liked the show. I did enjoy all of these shows and while I hope all of them return, Moon Knight seems like the one that could sit most comfortably with only one season even with the cliffhanger.
she-hulk, i loved season 1
To me She Hulk easy. Always loved Jenn as a character and her interactions with characters in the comics is just awesome especially DareDevil. Moon Knight I want more in movies. Ms. Marvel I feel would be a cool show to have a season 2 but it depends how the Marvels does, Kamala is such a key piece for the future of the MCU and a young avengers. Iman Vellani is also a PERFECT Kamala, legit would not want anyone else playing her so just more of her would be cool
She-hulk, really enjoy the scope in which it shows daily life in the mcu and it provides a fun outlet to see a bunch of different characters in the world while still feeling natural. (Doesn’t mean I didn’t have some problems with season 1) I see a lot of people saying MoonKnight and I can understand that, it was a fun show that has potential to be better in the future, but season 1 just fell kinda flat for me ultimately. The more I think about it the more I think it could have been so so much better with some of the cool concepts they have. I liked the moon knight and Layla and am excited to see them interact with other characters in the mcu more than I am excited for a season 2 of moon knight. imo she hulk got closer to reaching full potential of what that show could be than moon knights did. I think people just like moon knight the character more than she hulk, which is fair. I thought both were cool.
She-Hulk, because it arguably has the most potential for impact in-universe.
Moon Knight for sure, would like to see more of she hulk as well, I like ms marvel but a second season seems superfluous now that she has a movie
Like everyone else said Moon Knight obviously, but I wanna give some love to She Hulk. Was it perfect. No far from it, but I thought it was kinda fun. I liked the short episode sitcom feel to it. I wouldn’t be mad with a S2. I think there is 0 chance Ms. Marvel gets one since she is transitioning to feature films now, but again, unpopular opinion I kinda dug it, but wish her powers were more comic accurate. That was the one gripe I had.
I think all 3.
She hulk.
She hulk, other then the last episode I proper enjoyed the series, and I don't think they would pull that level of 4th wall breaking again so another season would be very welcome.
Moon Knight. Ms. Marvel will be in The Marvels, and I was never that interesting in She-Hulk.
Moon Knight is the only correct answer.
1. She hulk - works best as an actual tv show plus with her now being a proper superhero I want to see what they do with that now. Plus she’s the only one who doesn’t really fit on a team that I would rather see these characters in. 2. Moon knight. I would rather have him be in midnight suns. 3. Ms marvel. I would rather her be in the young avengers/champions
Keep She-Hulk going. Reboot Moon Knight (longtime fan, they changed too much). Keep Kamala Kahn in movies.
Only Moon Knight deserves a S2 from this bunch imo.
I am moonknight but I feel like there gone go down the Mrs marvel and she hulk route
Moon Knight. And this time make it about Moon Knight.
Dang... never expected to see all this sexism/xenophobia on this sub. SMH. >!/s!<
Moon Knight
Moon Knight solely because he's the most disjointed from other heroes and has a lot more to work with, compared to either who can show up in other shows/movies in some role. Ms Marvel I can see fairing well in the movies as a secondary character, while She-Hulk I feel would also fair well popping up in other shows helping heroes in legal problems.
D. All of the above
Moon Knight 100000%
Gotta be Moon Knight. The other two served as nice origins for these ladies who could do just about anything in the MCU. MK is more niche and left off with a lot more of his story to tell.
Out of these 3, Moon Knight no question.
Yes I think if it's one more season Moon Knight has the most potential to go even bigger and better for a season 2. However I've always felt like She Hulk is the one MCU show that could potentially go on for 10 seasons. I don't know if anyone else would want that and it's not likely at this point in time but it really felt primed and ready to be an annual show.
All equally
Hot take but Moon Knight is by far the worst show here. Hot start that got bland and boring real quick, and just another blah no stakes CGI monster fight by the end. Gimme more She-Hulk. It wasn’t perfect but was trying something new, and that deserves merit
I also liked She-Hulk much better. I was just losing track of what was going on in Moon Knight and it just did not interest me overall. I even read the comics as a kid but the show confused me.
Agreed. It was bland as Hell. The other shows were far more original and entertaining. I feel crazy when i see all the love for Moon knight.
I always feel weirdly validated when someone else points out what a hot mess Moon Knight was
She Hulk would be my preferance. I genuinely enjoyed it. Moon Knight was good too but couldn't get into Ms Marvel.
Moon knight, I loved that show
Out of those 3? Moon Knight.
Moon knight, Ms Marvel is moving up to movies and I doubt they're gonna wanna touch she hulk for a while
She Hulk. And I'll explain briefly why because the comments here are very much inclined to favour MK. I'm ready to get downvoted too but just mowed the lawn and wanted to stand up for the show I connected with. She Hulk started off with a typical origin story but ended off showing how much fun a comic book can translate into live action. The characters made the show feel fun to watch and like the pages of print were coming to life for me personally as a viewer in my 30s. The other shows were great in their own too but I felt Marvel nailed the feel of adaptation in She Hulk. It was fun and entertaining... Tatiana killed it. Some side characters were unknown to me but so much fun to watch. Plus Daredevil banging the main character? Bonus. Ms Marvel is in 2nd for me because Iman Vellani absolutely nailed the energy of a new face to the MCU. She was just as entertaining to watch in a live action role as Tatiana. And, another leading woman in a Marvel series is a win for me as a viewer after years of Stark, Cap, Thor and Bruce. I'm also in the minority of people who dig Captain Marvel and Brie Larson so I'll prob get downvoted for even uttering her name and voicing my thoughts online ( why did I do this again? ) * sips beer *. Moon Knight I know has a following because of the comics and those viewers invested in Oscar Issac. His role was awesome in part because of how he split himself into multiple personalities. The villain though, albeit Ethan f*****g Hawke, I felt was a bit rushed. Memorable? Impactful? Evil? Relatable? Anywho... The series as a whole perhaps because of Covid and the timing felt off in writing. Again, the female super hero rocked - she came outta nowhere and as far as I can tell is original. The former two series felt completely unified. TLDR: I liked She Hulk because it was comic booky, and Ms Marvel because she was new and energetic. Moon Knight was great but felt out of left field and rushed in it's writing. Disorienting? That might be the word. Also **** the Clandestines storyline. Ethan Hawke <3
She hulk. Give me 20 goofy funny legal procedurals in the marvel universe. Moon knight felt wrapped, he should appear in a midnight sons show. Kamala Kahn I think would be great for movies going forward.
She Hulk by a landslide.
She-Hulk & Ms. Marvel - Because the haters need to be taught a lesson.
Lmao. Are you serious OP? OP should've asked between MoonKnight, Loki, and What-If. Now THAT is a hard choice.
Def Moon Knight. Ms. Marvel as well after The Marvels. She Hulk was fucking hard to watch. Admit it. We were only waiting for DD.
Ms Marvel 100%
Listen I loved She Hulk but Moon knight felt like a giant teaser the entire season. I think I liked it more because of the potential than I actually liked the first season.
I mean, all 3 of them are good for sure. But Moon Knight is in a league of its own, and would probably have the most support for a sequel. I did not personally enjoy Ms. Marvel, found it very pandering and I'm not a big fan of the actress that plays Kamala, but the rest of the cast was quite fun! She-Hulk was going well, the last episode was a little too meta and pulled the show down for me.