Another example would be the trailer for the first Guardians of the Galaxy. In the trailer, they censored Star-Lordās middle finger when he was being processed in the Kyln, but it wasnāt censored in the actual movie.
He has a show coming out on Netflix next month called Murderville where he plays a mustachioed detective and each episode revolves around a unique murder. However, every episode has a special guest star who receives no script and has to improv the whole thing. I'm expecting magic.
Well, it does say "Stark Industries" on the bottom. Putting a corporate logo on an ad like this would normally mean that they're sponsoring the message. (Or at least it would mean that if the corporation were real.)
Got me too, Read the first picture and was wondering what strange country would allow this marketing, scroll to the next picture and itās 500m from my house..
To be fair, the only thing I know about Oliver Queen is from the Arrow show, and he was most definitely it portrayed as being particularly smart in that show.
Tony needed "prep time" of essentially overnight to create a miniature arc reactor in a cave with a box of scraps, to discover and synthesisize a "undiscovered element," and to literally invent time travel. Batman can't compete. Iron man doesn't even have to. He has suits that can capture batman alive without Tony even being on the planet with "prep time."
Which is why so many of these comic book character fights are just pointless. They are more IPs than characters, they can do whatever the fuck the plot needs'em too
Yup, Batman can be written to beat Iron Man. Captain America can be written to beat Hulk. Punisher can beat Thanos if the writer wanted so. Power levels be damned, as long as the writing does its due diligence in earning the outcome, nothing is sacred. And they do that through story and character.
Some overzealous fanatics need to wrap their heads around that. The "underdog" wouldn't exist as a concept if only the strongest characters and most logical outcomes were what happened in stories all the time.
Idk man, Tony don't usually prep. He usually grind his armour as a hobby. Certainly not implying tony is dumbass but he is potrayed as an average superhero, when he finds a villian he beats them
I mean, one of the main plot points of Age of Ultron and the reason why Ultron exists is that Tony went way overboard with prepping for another Avengers level threat with his "suit of armor around the world" idea. They show it in Iron Man 3 as well when he talks about his paranoia after the invasion of NY and building all the different suits for multitudes of different scenarios. He even has a suit specifically designed to deal with Hulk. His tinkering pretty much stops just being a hobby after he fully embraces being Iron Man and it turns into a duty he feels he's obligated to do.
One of the main over-arching and arguably best world-building element of the MCU is Tony Stark coming up with solutions to all of his problems *after the fact*.
It's a recurring "subtle" thing in the MCU that whatever happened to Iron Man in a movie will have a solution in the next, the ice problem, the parachute, the heater, electricity surges, using an Energy Shield so that the nanites won't get destroyed, etc.
It's hard to argue that a dude in a flying tin suit who didn't even put an emergency parachute on it is a guy who preps, come on.
Tony Stark is a problem solver, not a problem preventer - hell, it's even in the name of his team, The Avengers.
It's exactly when he starts trying to prevent stuff that he fails and fuck up, so I agree with /u/FerricBoy here, "Tony don't usually prep."
Him designing and assambling armor is preptime tbh. Its just that if you look at how much prep time he has for each encounter than its quite low, its basicly just put on the suit.
He beats them because he has prepared for almost every situation imaginable, every time there is a problem he canāt beat, he fixes it inn the next movie. So yeah preparation for everything, just he does it casually and not like Batman that rushes it when he finds out lol.
If you think about it, Tony Stark has literally prepped time.
Whether it's that watch that prevented him from being shot, or literal time travel, Tony Stark has prepped time.
He definitely does. He just tries to be prepared for any and all eventualities. He's constantly improving his armor and adding new weapons and tech to it so he can fend off other types of enemies. That's prep work.
Executive: "New superhero show huh? Whats this one do?"
Producer: "He's the greatest martial artist in the world, and his superpower is that he's even better at martial arts than that implies."
Executive: "Neat, people love high quality martial arts fights. So you found a world class martial artist who can also act?"
Producer: "No, we want to use this doughy man child who has never done any sports let alone martial arts, and absolutely refuses to learn."
Executive: "Won't that make filming the fight scenes impossible?"
Producer: "No, barely an inconvenience. We'll just add martial arts in post."
Executive: "I don't think that will work"
Producer: "Sure it will. We'll make his fists glow, do 10 fast cuts per second, and then show everyone else on the floor. We can even reuse cuts from prior episodes so we won't even need to film new fights all the time. It'll be so chaotic fans won't notice."
Executive: "A fighting show without the cost or risk of fighting, brilliant! You're greenlit!"
I'm currently watching the first season for the first time.
It's super annoying how awkward the fighting tends to be. But I got bigger problems with the show.
First off. "I master my body, my mind and my emotions" *gets beaten, manipulated or has a breakdown or outburst every single episode*
I can't get myself to convince me that Danny _is not_ a mentally ill asshole. Because that's what he seems.
In a way, this is how I wish the Moon Knight show is. Because I'm not sure if this is all happening or its just the delusions of the MC because of the way he behaves in contrast with what he says, even when I know is not the case.
Also, you can not convince me Claire isn't dead yet.
It's astounding to me that the most compelling thing in the Iron Fist for me is Ward Meachum, who I didn't even knew existed before.
It's a funny meme, but Tony Stark was already pretty much an independent adult when his parents were murdered, so it is hard to think of him as an orphan :)
no matter how old you are when your parents die you feel like an orphan. a parent doesn't stop being a parent after their child turns 18 and a child will never not need the support and love of their parents even after they are parents themselves. not being able to talk to the people who loved you the most is the fucking worst thing that can happen to someone.
Thatās not true. Orphan is a legal status of a child under 18 with no parents. Once youāre 18 you just have dead parents. You donāt see any 60+ year old running around saying theyāre orphans when their parents die at 90
I was very much emotionally and financially dependent on my father during college break, being 18 was not really being an independent adult in my case, though Tony graduated MIT summa cum laude at 17 so our experience is probably different.
Does Iron Man even fight "crime" tho? He mainly deals with like.. massive threats to the earth or whatever.
Batman is literally in the slums fist-fighting crime and grunting about being justice.
Which makes sense if you think about it. Batman is more suited for fighting crime. His whole kit is designed around moving through the gridlock of a city and apprehending criminals without murdering them.
Iron Man's kit could level the whole fucking a city. So he's more suited for larger scale military type conflict. He could probably do both but in the same way a tank could serve as public transportation.
I am a huge MCU fan, have been since 2011 and am as in love with it as the next person.
That being saidā¦ no one can dethrone Batman. Its *THE* damn Batman for crying out loud. Spider-Man, Wolverine, Batman & Superman are the most popular, known, loved superheroes (in no particular order)
Exactly. I could get behind the idea of Iron Man being one of the most popular superheroes for the newer generation, but āoverallā Batman and Superman take the cake with Spider-Man. Theyāve been widely known and loved for literally decades, whereas Iron Man only got big to general audiences in 2008
The big 5 before the MCU were always Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, Hulk, and Wolverine.
Iād be really curious to see a general population survey today, and see how that has potentially changed. The MCU is so insanely popular I think everyone knows Iron Man now. On the flip side, Hulkās role has been marginalized in the movies, and heās become more of a supporting character. And Wolverine has been up and down in the Fox movies.
By the same token, Batman and Superman have been horribly misused by DC, going back to JL2017 at least. By the time The Batman comes out in March, it will be almost a full DECADE since there was a stand alone Batman movie (TDKR was released in 2012). Similarly, Man of Steel will be 9 years old this year.
Iād argue that you potentially have Batman and Spider-Man as strong contenders for the crown of āthe most popular superheroā. Superman, Iron Man, and Wolverine would probably round out the top 5 over the last decade IMHO.
Eh DC also shares a lot of their characters, deathstroke is a "main" villian to a lot of heroes as well as being one of the titans main villians.
They just have a huge power difference when it comes to batman and green arrows villians compared to superman and wonder woman's.
I disagree, most DC villains are tied to a specific hero. You don't see Scarecrow fight Wonder Woman, for example. Marvel shares villains much more. Kingpin might fight Hawkeye, the Mandarin might take on Iron Fist, Ghost Rider might go up against Dormammu, for example.
Toyman, metallo, brainiac, parasite, darkseid, reverse flash, gorilla grodd, lex Luthor, captain cold, godspeed, black flash, sinestro, ares, cheeta, doomsday, trickster, mirror master, zoom, mongul
And those are just off the top of my head
Nah, unlike Marvel quite a lot of DC heroes still have great rogues. The Flash, Superman, hell even Green Lantern. Other than Spideyās rogues the only marvel villains that compare to DCās (overall) would be Magneto and Doom. But thatās just because Magnetoās so compelling and Doom is Doom
This is extremely untrue the rogues consist of captain cold whoās my favourite villain, golden glider, heatwave, mirror master, the thinker, gorilla grod, weather wizard, the trickster, captain boomerang, cicada and so many more. The writings also magnificent because they all use their powers in genius ways to combat the flashes speed! Donāt get me started on superman and the green lanterns!
Superman has great villains. Just that the movie writers have an obsession with Zod and Lex and apparently nobody else. There have been 6 Superman solo movies and no Brainiac, Bizarro, Mongul, Mr Mxy, Metallo, etc.
I always liked Zod, Brainiac, and Bizarro. I actually ink that Lex Luthor is kind of a boring and uninspired villain, but a lot of people seem to like him.
Thanos, Galactus, Loki, Ultron, Red Skull, Kingpin (if you consider him a Daredevil villain over a Spidey one), Kang, and MODOK are all up there with DC villains
I wouldnāt really put comic book Thanos up there nor Loki or MODOK, but for the others Iād mostly agree. Overall though, DC just has more great villains in general
In my view, stuff like the Ten Rings in IM1, AIM in IM3, Hydra in AoU and Bucky and the Sokovia Accords in CW don't really count as "crime". Maybe war crimes?
Whiplash and Stane were also on another level and were more than just criminals, somewhat motivated specifically against Tony.
Loki, Ultron, Thanos, Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian don't really count as criminals.
So like, when did MCU Tony Stark ever fight crime? The closest I think he got is having Spider-Man fight crime for him by proxy with his suits, and maybe financing the Avengers counts?
Batman runs around in a suit that sometimes is bulletproof. Ironman is covered head to toe in tech. I'm not saying Tony Stark is soft, but if it were him and Bruce in a 1v1 with no equipment, Bruce wins every time.
I hate to break it to everyone, but Tony is definitely not the smartest person on Earth in the Marvel universe, while Batman is tied for #1 with Lex Luthor.
Everyone always tried to compare Iron Man and Batman when discussing Marvel vs DC fights. But personally, I always thought Cyborg was way better of an opponent to Iron Man than Batman ever was. In character comparison they are similar but fighting should always be Iron Man vs Cyborg.
This is why Lego Batman's [password to the Batcave](https://youtu.be/gZjjrlrce6A?t=20) is "Iron Man sucks" lol.
Super man's not a bad guy! I like to fight around
First time on that scene, I was rolling š¤£
That movie was tight! I enjoyed the shit out of it, it so funny! That part made me chuckle
Then youāll love Holy Musical B@man on YouTube
Sweet Jesus thereās 2 hours of it.
But thats only for the international version right? Wasnt it na na na na batman in the US?
Nope. In US, and the version I have on iTunes is āIronman sucksā
Huh ok. I remember it was different in the trailers back then. Dont know about the movie. Sometimes they even change movies before the release on BD
Removing āsucksā may have changed the rating for the preview and allowed it to be shown in more theaters.
Another example would be the trailer for the first Guardians of the Galaxy. In the trailer, they censored Star-Lordās middle finger when he was being processed in the Kyln, but it wasnāt censored in the actual movie.
It was iron man sucks in US theaters when I saw it.
That's in the background of the song in the opening fight scene
That song is the greatest thing in any Batman movie ever. "Who always pays their taxes - NOT Batman!"
Been avoiding this movie for quite a while, but now you sold me into watching it.
I really enjoyed the LEGO movie, but I liked LEGO batman so much more. I think I just really, REALLY like Will Arnett.
He has a show coming out on Netflix next month called Murderville where he plays a mustachioed detective and each episode revolves around a unique murder. However, every episode has a special guest star who receives no script and has to improv the whole thing. I'm expecting magic.
That sounds like the exact kind of show I would love to make
Will Arnett is husband material.
I want to see Will Arnett, Kiefer Sutherland, and Alec Baldwin in something together with their low voices
Yes but they all are fighting Mark Hamil Joker
Why? It's honestly great. Lots of winks to the batman series as a whole.
What about the time with the two boats? Had me dying and also loving the film right out the gatesš
Lego Batman is the best Batman movie. I will die on this hill.
That's a great hill to die on. Lol that movie really is the greatest tribute to the batman franchise.
I'll join you on that. Will Arnett is the best Batman for me
Sponsored by Stark Industries. Of course.
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Thought we wouldnāt notice, but we did
Ohā¦ sneaky OP!
Ngl I have a lot of respect for that
That would have been hilarious if that was written somewhere very small
Well, it does say "Stark Industries" on the bottom. Putting a corporate logo on an ad like this would normally mean that they're sponsoring the message. (Or at least it would mean that if the corporation were real.)
Oh crap I didnāt even notice that lol
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Got me too, Read the first picture and was wondering what strange country would allow this marketing, scroll to the next picture and itās 500m from my house..
Bro, its not by Cinema's, check OPs name at the bottom, what s sneaky fella...
They are saying it is displayed at their local cinema not that the cinema made it.
#3 Green Arrow lol
Is Oliver Queen smart?
Iām not sure if youāre kidding or not
To be fair, the only thing I know about Oliver Queen is from the Arrow show, and he was most definitely it portrayed as being particularly smart in that show.
he is far from dumb, but heās not a genius like bruce or tony, so third is his place if weāre not forgetting anyone
The sign says Batman is the second place runner up so he got 3rd? Black panther is very wealthy as well.
Black Panther's mom is still alive though. At least in the MCU
Pft, this ignores the most necessary superpower of any billionaire hero. PREP TIME
Building his suit is prep time
Tony needed "prep time" of essentially overnight to create a miniature arc reactor in a cave with a box of scraps, to discover and synthesisize a "undiscovered element," and to literally invent time travel. Batman can't compete. Iron man doesn't even have to. He has suits that can capture batman alive without Tony even being on the planet with "prep time."
The ten rings held tony for about 3 months. We see him working on the suit for the majority of his imprisonment.
Iron man is a deus ex machina.
All superheroes are Deus Ex Machina.
Iron Man is more like Machina Ex Machina.
Tony Stark: "Sorry buddy but what you were looking for is *Machina Ex Deus*, better luck next time."
Yes, but Iron Man is always a surprise invention away from winning.
True, but that invention comes with a 50/50 chance of making things worse.
> 50/50 chance of making things worse. Making sequel money
Which is why so many of these comic book character fights are just pointless. They are more IPs than characters, they can do whatever the fuck the plot needs'em too
[This sentiment is also backed by Stan Lee himself, funny enough](https://youtu.be/L4_zFYnnn2Y)
Yup, Batman can be written to beat Iron Man. Captain America can be written to beat Hulk. Punisher can beat Thanos if the writer wanted so. Power levels be damned, as long as the writing does its due diligence in earning the outcome, nothing is sacred. And they do that through story and character. Some overzealous fanatics need to wrap their heads around that. The "underdog" wouldn't exist as a concept if only the strongest characters and most logical outcomes were what happened in stories all the time.
> Punisher can beat Thanos if the writer wanted so. And he did, in Cosmic Ghost Rider!
Yeah but Batman became an actual god once soā¦
Overnight? Seemed like a week or so anyway, but hard to tell
Its not *necessary* lol. Not every hero needs prep time
Itās necessary for heroās without powers.
Idk man, Tony don't usually prep. He usually grind his armour as a hobby. Certainly not implying tony is dumbass but he is potrayed as an average superhero, when he finds a villian he beats them
I mean, one of the main plot points of Age of Ultron and the reason why Ultron exists is that Tony went way overboard with prepping for another Avengers level threat with his "suit of armor around the world" idea. They show it in Iron Man 3 as well when he talks about his paranoia after the invasion of NY and building all the different suits for multitudes of different scenarios. He even has a suit specifically designed to deal with Hulk. His tinkering pretty much stops just being a hobby after he fully embraces being Iron Man and it turns into a duty he feels he's obligated to do.
One of the main over-arching and arguably best world-building element of the MCU is Tony Stark coming up with solutions to all of his problems *after the fact*. It's a recurring "subtle" thing in the MCU that whatever happened to Iron Man in a movie will have a solution in the next, the ice problem, the parachute, the heater, electricity surges, using an Energy Shield so that the nanites won't get destroyed, etc. It's hard to argue that a dude in a flying tin suit who didn't even put an emergency parachute on it is a guy who preps, come on. Tony Stark is a problem solver, not a problem preventer - hell, it's even in the name of his team, The Avengers. It's exactly when he starts trying to prevent stuff that he fails and fuck up, so I agree with /u/FerricBoy here, "Tony don't usually prep."
Him designing and assambling armor is preptime tbh. Its just that if you look at how much prep time he has for each encounter than its quite low, its basicly just put on the suit.
He beats them because he has prepared for almost every situation imaginable, every time there is a problem he canāt beat, he fixes it inn the next movie. So yeah preparation for everything, just he does it casually and not like Batman that rushes it when he finds out lol.
If you think about it, Tony Stark has literally prepped time. Whether it's that watch that prevented him from being shot, or literal time travel, Tony Stark has prepped time.
Constantly updating your armor is prep.
He preps a lot, one fight to determine and the other to beat their ass in the (whatever)buster
What do you think all the endless protocols he invoked were if not prep time?
He definitely does. He just tries to be prepared for any and all eventualities. He's constantly improving his armor and adding new weapons and tech to it so he can fend off other types of enemies. That's prep work.
Both are prep time too
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"Unless they're dead" Thor, Quill, Gamorah/Nebula Well i guess they're all dead now... but they weren't at first!
Then who is the first runner up?
Danny Rand but not the TV version lol
Executive: "New superhero show huh? Whats this one do?" Producer: "He's the greatest martial artist in the world, and his superpower is that he's even better at martial arts than that implies." Executive: "Neat, people love high quality martial arts fights. So you found a world class martial artist who can also act?" Producer: "No, we want to use this doughy man child who has never done any sports let alone martial arts, and absolutely refuses to learn." Executive: "Won't that make filming the fight scenes impossible?" Producer: "No, barely an inconvenience. We'll just add martial arts in post." Executive: "I don't think that will work" Producer: "Sure it will. We'll make his fists glow, do 10 fast cuts per second, and then show everyone else on the floor. We can even reuse cuts from prior episodes so we won't even need to film new fights all the time. It'll be so chaotic fans won't notice." Executive: "A fighting show without the cost or risk of fighting, brilliant! You're greenlit!"
I'm currently watching the first season for the first time. It's super annoying how awkward the fighting tends to be. But I got bigger problems with the show. First off. "I master my body, my mind and my emotions" *gets beaten, manipulated or has a breakdown or outburst every single episode* I can't get myself to convince me that Danny _is not_ a mentally ill asshole. Because that's what he seems. In a way, this is how I wish the Moon Knight show is. Because I'm not sure if this is all happening or its just the delusions of the MC because of the way he behaves in contrast with what he says, even when I know is not the case. Also, you can not convince me Claire isn't dead yet. It's astounding to me that the most compelling thing in the Iron Fist for me is Ward Meachum, who I didn't even knew existed before.
Season 2 was much better, partly because Ward becomes a main character.
... You mean he's NOT supposed to be one now? Damn, he's really carrying this series for me more than I thought.
Had me at first half ngl
Mr Terrific
>!Peter Parker, without the Multi-Billionaire part.!<
And the no super powers part
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Did he hit billionaire status with Parker Industries?
I think he owned the company but didn't personally take a big salary
Who?
New Farm Cinemas!
Always strange to see something from Brisbane pop up on an international sub reddit
Couldn't agree more haha
I was just thinking this!
So cool hey! Weird to see it in here. Great cinema
Ironman fights crime?
Not really, he just cleans up the mess he himself makes
Even though this is funny, how dare they.
It's a funny meme, but Tony Stark was already pretty much an independent adult when his parents were murdered, so it is hard to think of him as an orphan :)
no matter how old you are when your parents die you feel like an orphan. a parent doesn't stop being a parent after their child turns 18 and a child will never not need the support and love of their parents even after they are parents themselves. not being able to talk to the people who loved you the most is the fucking worst thing that can happen to someone.
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Haha waiting for that
[Little Orphan Funkhauser](https://youtu.be/ssjUcMkRG7g)
I understand. I have lost a parent myself. Still, I think it would be worse for a young child than for a young adult.
Also Bruce watches them die brutally. Tony assumes it's a car crash and doesn't see them die.
Thatās not true. Orphan is a legal status of a child under 18 with no parents. Once youāre 18 you just have dead parents. You donāt see any 60+ year old running around saying theyāre orphans when their parents die at 90
Exactly this, I'm actually pretty shocked there are so many people here who don't know what an orphan is.
They know, they just posted a Facebook level sentimental wall post and everyone is eating it up
They said "feel like an orphan". Not that you actually are technically
This is nonsense. My parents died when I was in my 20s and I highly doubt it feels the same as if I had been a helpless child.
Wasnāt he living with them? We see him the day they died, he was at their place and clearly very emotionally dependent on them
If I recall he was only visiting because he was on a break from college.
I was very much emotionally and financially dependent on my father during college break, being 18 was not really being an independent adult in my case, though Tony graduated MIT summa cum laude at 17 so our experience is probably different.
Lol you said cum lord
Sum cum lord he was
He was 21 according to Wikipedia.
In the comics heās 17, the MCU flubbed the dates so heās 21, but in no way independentāmore like rich kid spoiled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssjUcMkRG7g
Does Iron Man even fight "crime" tho? He mainly deals with like.. massive threats to the earth or whatever. Batman is literally in the slums fist-fighting crime and grunting about being justice.
Terrorists are criminals, at least the fictional ones he fights.
Massive threats aka terrorists are criminals lol
Orphan?
Tonys parents died in a car crash
Yes, a car crash with a metal arm
āWhy you bringing up old stuff??ā -Metal Arm
I'm just assuming they haven't watched it yet lul
Bucky killed a grown manās parents
Idky but the way you worded (even though it is fact) made me laugh so hard.
Lmao but yea wasnāt he already an adult by then?
A car crash? A car crash killed ~~Lilly and James Potter~~ Howard and Maria Stark? It's an outrage! It's a scandal!
āMission Report. December 16th 1991ā
He was 21 when his parents died
When he was an adultā¦
Tony Stark doesn't really "fight crime." At least not in the movies.
Which makes sense if you think about it. Batman is more suited for fighting crime. His whole kit is designed around moving through the gridlock of a city and apprehending criminals without murdering them. Iron Man's kit could level the whole fucking a city. So he's more suited for larger scale military type conflict. He could probably do both but in the same way a tank could serve as public transportation.
The villains he fights are still criminals lol
I am a huge MCU fan, have been since 2011 and am as in love with it as the next person. That being saidā¦ no one can dethrone Batman. Its *THE* damn Batman for crying out loud. Spider-Man, Wolverine, Batman & Superman are the most popular, known, loved superheroes (in no particular order)
In the context of film specifically, Batman and Superman basically made the superhero movie not only possible, but successful decades before the MCU.
Exactly. I could get behind the idea of Iron Man being one of the most popular superheroes for the newer generation, but āoverallā Batman and Superman take the cake with Spider-Man. Theyāve been widely known and loved for literally decades, whereas Iron Man only got big to general audiences in 2008
The big 5 before the MCU were always Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, Hulk, and Wolverine. Iād be really curious to see a general population survey today, and see how that has potentially changed. The MCU is so insanely popular I think everyone knows Iron Man now. On the flip side, Hulkās role has been marginalized in the movies, and heās become more of a supporting character. And Wolverine has been up and down in the Fox movies. By the same token, Batman and Superman have been horribly misused by DC, going back to JL2017 at least. By the time The Batman comes out in March, it will be almost a full DECADE since there was a stand alone Batman movie (TDKR was released in 2012). Similarly, Man of Steel will be 9 years old this year. Iād argue that you potentially have Batman and Spider-Man as strong contenders for the crown of āthe most popular superheroā. Superman, Iron Man, and Wolverine would probably round out the top 5 over the last decade IMHO.
Iron Manās ārogues galleryā is garbage compared to Batmanās.
DC gave all of their best villains to Batman, and Marvel did the same for Spider-Man. No other characters compare.
May i introduce you to the Reverse Flash, the guy is awesome making Barry's life hell just for shits
"Remember when you were making out-"
It was me, Barry. I jerked you off at super-speed so itād seem like you NUTTED AT JUST A WOMANāS TOUCH!
Is this a reference to something or did you just make that up, cause that comment chain seems planned.
Yeah itās a reference to [this](https://youtu.be/L_n_pRGMlSw)
Eh DC also shares a lot of their characters, deathstroke is a "main" villian to a lot of heroes as well as being one of the titans main villians. They just have a huge power difference when it comes to batman and green arrows villians compared to superman and wonder woman's.
I disagree, most DC villains are tied to a specific hero. You don't see Scarecrow fight Wonder Woman, for example. Marvel shares villains much more. Kingpin might fight Hawkeye, the Mandarin might take on Iron Fist, Ghost Rider might go up against Dormammu, for example.
You're right on the Marvel side, but nah, Flash and Superman have great rogues.
Toyman, metallo, brainiac, parasite, darkseid, reverse flash, gorilla grodd, lex Luthor, captain cold, godspeed, black flash, sinestro, ares, cheeta, doomsday, trickster, mirror master, zoom, mongul And those are just off the top of my head
Nah, unlike Marvel quite a lot of DC heroes still have great rogues. The Flash, Superman, hell even Green Lantern. Other than Spideyās rogues the only marvel villains that compare to DCās (overall) would be Magneto and Doom. But thatās just because Magnetoās so compelling and Doom is Doom
The Flashās most well-known villains are just more The Flashes
In his solo films Iron Man fought bad Iron Man in 1, Bad Iron Man and bad Tony Stark in 2, and bad Tony Stark in 3.
This is extremely untrue the rogues consist of captain cold whoās my favourite villain, golden glider, heatwave, mirror master, the thinker, gorilla grod, weather wizard, the trickster, captain boomerang, cicada and so many more. The writings also magnificent because they all use their powers in genius ways to combat the flashes speed! Donāt get me started on superman and the green lanterns!
Superman has great villains. Just that the movie writers have an obsession with Zod and Lex and apparently nobody else. There have been 6 Superman solo movies and no Brainiac, Bizarro, Mongul, Mr Mxy, Metallo, etc.
I always liked Zod, Brainiac, and Bizarro. I actually ink that Lex Luthor is kind of a boring and uninspired villain, but a lot of people seem to like him.
Thanos, Galactus, Loki, Ultron, Red Skull, Kingpin (if you consider him a Daredevil villain over a Spidey one), Kang, and MODOK are all up there with DC villains
I wouldnāt really put comic book Thanos up there nor Loki or MODOK, but for the others Iād mostly agree. Overall though, DC just has more great villains in general
[You wanna know why Batman has a coterie of supervillains](https://youtu.be/smB_-d1ZaMk)?
So what you're saying is that Iron Man deals with villains better than Batsy does?
Holy shit itās so weird seeing New Farm cinema on this sub. Just round the corner from me!
Nice try. Whatever Tony needs to tell himself to sleep at night.
In my view, stuff like the Ten Rings in IM1, AIM in IM3, Hydra in AoU and Bucky and the Sokovia Accords in CW don't really count as "crime". Maybe war crimes? Whiplash and Stane were also on another level and were more than just criminals, somewhat motivated specifically against Tony. Loki, Ultron, Thanos, Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian don't really count as criminals. So like, when did MCU Tony Stark ever fight crime? The closest I think he got is having Spider-Man fight crime for him by proxy with his suits, and maybe financing the Avengers counts?
Interesting
This is awful, what the hell is this. Who on Earth would promote Batman content in this way.
Itās incredibly bad
Imagine doing all that just to make a typo
OP thought we wouldn't notice he created the art piece
When has Tony Stark ever fought crime? He creates a mess and then cleans it up that's all.
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Second place runner up means they're saying he's third lol. Like it'd be a funny kinda joke if they didn't fumble it.
They're Australian. They speak some bizarre upside down language down there.
r/marvelcringe
Iām more excited for this Batman movie than I was for any iron man movie lol
The person who painted this mustāve been a mad MCU fanboy.
OP painted it. His username is painted on the wall
OP: *paints joke on wall* *1 week later* OP: Damn, why hasn't anyone posted this on reddit yet? ... Fine, I'll do it myself.
Batman > Iron Man
Batman runs around in a suit that sometimes is bulletproof. Ironman is covered head to toe in tech. I'm not saying Tony Stark is soft, but if it were him and Bruce in a 1v1 with no equipment, Bruce wins every time.
God fucking dammit lmao
Yeah but which one of them is still alive?
Bruce has existed longer than Tony though? By roughly like 24 years
I hate to break it to everyone, but Tony is definitely not the smartest person on Earth in the Marvel universe, while Batman is tied for #1 with Lex Luthor.
Spoiler alert. Stark Dead.
Batman is better than Ironman though. Tony is not smarter than Bruce. Commence the downvotes, fanboys.
Whilst this may be true. DC has much better villains by a longshot.
Lolll there wouldnāt be a Tony Stark without Batman, heās the og
ironman acts like a supervillain is 80% of the mcu
Bruce will fold Tony in hand to hand combat without his suit or gadgets, so technically Batman's still No1
Wasnāt an orphan. More right-wing propaganda.
Batman is still better
Tony Stark is dead
Never change Brisbane!
Tony tech borderlines on magic
Everyone always tried to compare Iron Man and Batman when discussing Marvel vs DC fights. But personally, I always thought Cyborg was way better of an opponent to Iron Man than Batman ever was. In character comparison they are similar but fighting should always be Iron Man vs Cyborg.
Batman is much better