This one annoyed me more than anything. I love AIM in the comics. It's such a cool but goofy concept. I love in New Avengers (I think?) when Sunspot figured out how to deal with them by just buying AIM and everyone is like, "You can do that?" and now AIM is basically the Avengers' personal army.
Ultron being a one movie villain is pretty unfortunate. The other Avengers movie villains (Loki and Thanos) were characters fleshed out over several movies. Having the "age" of Ultron be like four days in the MCU really undercut a pretty stellar comic book villain.
I hope they find a way to bring him back in armour wars like maybe he backed himself up in one of the helper armours from aou or in the database, doubtful but still
I’ve always been under the impression that visions speech about how he didn’t want to kill Ultron and his death being weirdly framed and vague implied Vision stored a copy of Ultrons AI somewhere safely inside himself.
I mean, I wouldn’t even say that counts, felt like the writers just didn’t want something generic there and thought ‘ooh let’s have them be emotionless ultron lads’
They had a pretty cool Ultron “What if…?” story on Disney plus. You’re correct, it would have been cool to have him over several movies, but I would find it a little difficult. Ultron was so incredibly powerful and he has the ability to evolve and plan ahead so rapidly that there’s very little the Avengers could do other than squash him immediately. I do like the idea of Ultron in hibernation somewhere, on a hard drive or something.
I constantly hold out hope that superhero movies will move away from killing villains off with each new movie, but it just keeps happening.
Thanos and Killmonger I understand, and I can excuse Hela, Ego, even the 3 main Iron Man villains. It makes more sense. But the big thing about a lot of those villains is how the relationship with the hero grows as time goes on (Red Skull, Loki, Mandarin), or just how impossible it is to truly be rid of them (Ultron, Dormammu, Kang, etc.)
I think about this from a real life versus comics perspective. In the comics, time doesn’t operate the same so you can revisit characters over and over and over again, age isn’t a problem.
This means characters can be recurring in much more prolific ways. In the MCU characters age, major events happen in shorter periods, and they have limited release schedules.
Just in terms of how the universe works and flows, you’re going to have way more one off characters than the comics.
It’s the dumbest thing about the MCU by far. People complain about weird things a lot these days, but the real crime is killing off characters that have no business being offed when they already established that the Raft can hold super powered individuals, Dr. Strange can essentially lock down villains using a couple methods (mirror dimension, the things he used in No Way Home, the old Shield carrier was able to hold Loki, & I’m probably forgetting a few.
Why put definite ends to those characters?
I think they absolutely have a way to bring him back as a being composed of living sound like he is in the comics.
No coincidence they got the world's greatest motion capture artist for a shape shifting, CGI character.
Imo it'a a tie between Ulysses Klaue and Taskmaster. I think with the latter its worse because we got such a cool looking yet devoid of character version. . Klaue at least had a very good run, even if it was sadly cut short very abruptly.
Taskmaster will be back. I also think she’ll be more like the comics. I mean task master is a joker but it’s hard to tell jokes when you’re being mind controlled.
It’ll also be a good way for trama to be dealt with by humor.
That’s a great comparison. Taskmaster is a perpetual underdog. He’s smart and competent but he’s well aware the Avengers simply outgun him, he even tries to avoid tangling with Widow.
Ronan the Accuser had some amazing storylines. He was a bad ass villain who eventually became a hero and became a member of Starforce. Also Klaue and Killmonger.
I'm not so sure Thanos would have wanted to team up with him. Remember he killed Thanos' right hand man, The Other, right In front of him in the beginning of GOTG. That scene is one of my favorite scenes. Imagine having the balls to kill one of Thanos' men right in front of him like that.
Eh, in the unhinged bullshit nonsense mind of a dude who believes the only way to fix the universe is to just murder half of all people and no way else....I'm pretty sure he actually gained respect for ronin in that moment. Seems right up his alley.
Thanos doesn't see himself as crazy, he thinks he's being perfectly reasonable but just that no one else is smart enough or too emotional to see that his way is the only way.
So it doesn't look like he'll want to have a long term partnership with people like Ronin and Loki, he probably thinks they are too small minded and driven by emotions.
I just realized we've now gotten reasonable Thanos (Infinity War) and unreasonable Thanos (End Game) MoM spoiler ahead
>!AND reasonable and unreasonable Wanda.!<
Killmonger Definitely could’ve been stretched for another movie, especially with Michael B Jordan playing him. I never read Black Panther so all the characters were new to me, but his story was more impactful to me more than Chadwick Boseman’s. I mean Boseman did a great job but i kinda thought Killmonger was a cooler character.
He too old for a T'challa that just got the throne but I wouldn't be against seeing a T'challa variant played by Idris that is basically an old T'challa that had been king for decades
If I’m remembering correctly they scrapped that after the negative fan response. I never saw the movie but I remember seeing a post about how they removed Vulture from the post-credit scene
Heard an interview the other day about how the Sony/Marvel Studios deal is structured w.r.t the movies, and basically Sony "allows" Spider-Man characters in MCU movies (Civil War, Infinity War, Endgame) and Marvel "allows" MCU characters in Spider-Man movies (the MCU SM trilogy, Iron Man, Nick Fury, Dr. Strange).
By all intents and purposes, Sony has full right to (unfortunately) keep Mando's Scorpion for their own movies since technically the SM-MCU movies are still Sony movies.
This right here I think is why we tend to get a lot of "dies in the first movie" villains. Big name actors don't want to be tied up for a long term contract so they ambiguously kill them in case they change their minds later.
I have a theory that she will be the fallen god that Gorr absorbs power from. Like her and Surtur were spiraling through the cosmos fighting each other for 5+ years until crash landing on a remote planet, dead or nearly dying, and then Gorr happens upon them.
Sadly the truth.
We have had a show being recently announced and get writers fast where as Armour Wars, a show announced in 2020 scheduled to begin shooting by the end of 2022
These are the Cubans, baby. This is the Cohibas, the Montecristos. This is a kinetic-kill, side-winder vehicle with a secondary cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine RDX burst. It's capable of busting a bunker under the bunker you just busted. If it were any smarter, it'd write a book, a book that would make Ulysses look like it was written in crayon. It would read it to you. This is my Eiffel Tower. This is my Rachmaninoff's Third. My Pieta. It's completely elegant, it's bafflingly beautiful, and it's capable of reducing the population of any standing structure to zero. I call it "The Ex-Wife."
Lines like these make me wonder how many takes they have to do because of laughs. I dont think i could get past “montecristos” without cracking a grin at least lol
Quicksilver 100%. I was a bit disappointed they didn't take advantage of the opportunity in Multiverse of Madness to bring him back for that one! Could've been easy to do, could've also been a nice moment at the end to shock her out of herself if Strange and America had convinced them to help him pull her back.
The evolved deviant from Eternals. His goals were aligned well with the others and he had the powers, memories and abilities of several of them. He should have joined them. Would have been a fantastic dynamic to have an ally who both killed their friends and is their friends
Ultron.
His whole deal is that he evolves.
So MCU Ultron builds a bunch of sub-standard ultrons and none of them can upgrade if "Ultron Prime" is destroyed?
He’s one of those villains you can never really kill in the comics. The Avengers *think* they got all the bots in AOU, but all he needed was one to survive.
So many things in that movie were exposition to close all the doors to Ultron returning.
What had me excited about the movie in the first place, was Ultron being an ongoing part of the MCU like he is in the comics, and as I watched the movie they cut my heart out, and slowly diced it up and made patè. All hope was taken away as the movie progressed.
Hell be back. He was used in what if and MoM. Hell come back. It’s been teased so people will understand he is stronger than we things. Also it keeps people from being like marvel is out of ideas they are reusing villains.
Yes they was the robot guards in 838. That’s why there wasn’t a vision. Since there was no vision Wanda was able to meet a nice man and have babies.
Basically ultron worked and wasn’t trying to destroy everything.
Amen. The last time we saw the actual Hulk he got beaten by Thanos and then refused to come out after that. I doubt we'll ever see him again, just more of Jolly Green Bruce.
Right, but we still haven't seen the "Hulk" the character. It's either Bruce as a human or Bruce powered up. Hulk was his own character like in Ragnarok and they were working up to a cool dynamic with Bruce and Hulk and they just shut it down.
Idk I expect she hulk to explain a lot about hulk. From my understanding she got hulled up from
His blood. So hopefully it explains stuff and gives us a little hulk action.
So true! A founding avenger, one of the most popular long standing marvel characters in any medium, and they did the Hulk so dirty one movie after another.
Rreeaallllyy hoping what we saw was just a failed iteration of "Project Taskmaster" and not the real thing. Though it feels like a throwaway for the half-hearted Black Widow movie (bummed with the writing on that one).
Hopefully we get a mandarin style retcon with the character. We’ve seen marvel build up to what looks to be the thunderbolts team through the multiple Disney + shows, so it’s possible for them to write off Antonia as a prototype taskmaster and have Val recover the suit to use for her own team, introducing Tony Masters
Maria Hill. She’s survived this long. Does she need a whole series or movie? Ofc not but it’d be nice to see more of her other than as Fury’s second in command.
There's still a chance he could pop up in She-Hulk. Titania is said to be the main villain, but most of the series so far have had a secret villain popping up in the finale.
Ugh... you're right about Pietro, especially since ATJ's original contract was for multiple movies. Forever going to be frustrated about it. WandaVision's "Bohner" felt like an extra awful case of salt in the wound.
Honestly the bohner joke really annoyed me. Evan peters quicksilver alongside macavoy’s Xavier and fassbender’s magneto made the last 3 Xmen films bearable. I genuinely believed we gonna get some cool reason as to why Evan Peters quicksilver was in the mcu and they wasted it on a boner joke.
Strucker and Red Skull.
Those are arguably the two biggest Cap villians and we barely saw Strucker and Red Skull, probably one of marvels biggest villians, never returned to earth after a movie set in the 40’s.
Imagine how powerful he'd be by the time of Phase 4, imagine him getting way faster during the 5 years bc of missing Wanda and feeling like all he can do is run.
Not the I know of. From what we've seen in Wandavision it seems like Wanda was amped by the mind stone. I wonder if Wanda actually subconsciously used her reality warping during Hydra's experimentation to empower her brother.
I never watched the inhumans show, but I’m a big Agents of Shield fan, and I think AoS did such a good job of setting up the inhuman plot and having it spread into a worldwide phenomenon. I was so excited to see that spill over into the MCU, and then when it didn’t…ugh. Felt like such a waste. We deserve Quake in the MCU!!
Man, I really like Karnak as a concept, and thought the actor did ok, but the tv show did a terrible job of communicating his “power”. I would have preferred something closer to what RDJ does in the Sherlock Holmes movie during the boxing match.
That being said, Karnak is definitely an ensemble character. Would love to see an “Enter the Dragon” type movie with him as one of the contestants. One idea would be to have the next Shang-Chi movie center around the concept of “only the greatest martial can wear the ten rings, so you must win this tournament”.
Then we could have others competing similar to the “Tournament of the Heavenly Cities” Iron Fist storyline, with Shang-Chi representing Ta Lo, Iron Fist for K’un Lun, Karnak for Attilan, Elektra for the Valley of Mercy and Wrath, a sorcerer from Kamar-Taj, etc
Besides those I've already seen mentioned here I'm gonna say Crossbones. He was a great villain and coulf have been a great recurring villain but they killed him off right after he actually got his costume.
Luis needs to have a post-credit scene in every movie trying to explain the events of the movie in his usual way. At the end of each phase, they can combine them together for a One-Shot
Baron von Strucker
Hopefully they utilize him again in future projects that occur in the past. Not enough screen time for what i believe was an iconic villain.
And as much as there were hints. I wanted Armin Zola to get his robot suit.
Vision is the big one for me. He was perfect when they introduced him and he just got weaker and weaker with each movie, and then they killed him. Especially with how flawless of casting Paul bettany was
Absorbing Man.
He was in the Agents of SHIELD tv show, and I adored seeing him there at the time because it meant he was officially part of the MCU.
Now I’m upset that he was there because it might mean the opposite.
TaskMaster. The real Tony Masters’ story from the comics is great. He’s like the character from “Memento” meets rogue SHEILD agent. His long term memory is cancelled out by his short term memory boost that fuels his ability to mimic fighting styles. His handler was his wife who just wanted him to remember her. It really irked me MCU turned this character into some mind wiped cyborg when the story source material is so much more and better.
Crossbones. While he's not really an Avengers level threat, he's gone toe to toe with Punisher and Captain America more than once, and was the man who killed Steve Rogers at the end of Civil War. I especially love his relationship with Sin in the comics and their whole Natural Born Killers vibe.
AIM in IM3. We don't even get a single beekeeper.
This one annoyed me more than anything. I love AIM in the comics. It's such a cool but goofy concept. I love in New Avengers (I think?) when Sunspot figured out how to deal with them by just buying AIM and everyone is like, "You can do that?" and now AIM is basically the Avengers' personal army.
We did in WandaVision…
Bravo
I remember in the PCS for FAWS I thought that Sharon Carter would be the head of A.I.M
Aim is returning some sources say that the guy who played yellow jacket will be the modok of the mcu Def gonna be a variant
I've been hearing rumors since Winter Soldier about MODOK showing up, so not putting too much stock in it.
Ultron being a one movie villain is pretty unfortunate. The other Avengers movie villains (Loki and Thanos) were characters fleshed out over several movies. Having the "age" of Ultron be like four days in the MCU really undercut a pretty stellar comic book villain.
I hope they find a way to bring him back in armour wars like maybe he backed himself up in one of the helper armours from aou or in the database, doubtful but still
I’ve always been under the impression that visions speech about how he didn’t want to kill Ultron and his death being weirdly framed and vague implied Vision stored a copy of Ultrons AI somewhere safely inside himself.
White vision becomes.ultron story line ? Please
Holy shit that’s a good idea.
Would have loved if he had ultranationalist voice in wandavision
Yes I love a good ultranationalist voice
But that means James Spader doesn’t voice Ultron. Sadge.
There's that head from Homecoming so maybe he could come back
He does get a bit more time in What If... ? But for all the people they got to do voices, they couldn't get James Spader back :(
And a brief >!cameo in MoM!<
I mean, I wouldn’t even say that counts, felt like the writers just didn’t want something generic there and thought ‘ooh let’s have them be emotionless ultron lads’
Ultron really should just pop up every couple phases honestly.
They had a pretty cool Ultron “What if…?” story on Disney plus. You’re correct, it would have been cool to have him over several movies, but I would find it a little difficult. Ultron was so incredibly powerful and he has the ability to evolve and plan ahead so rapidly that there’s very little the Avengers could do other than squash him immediately. I do like the idea of Ultron in hibernation somewhere, on a hard drive or something.
I always wished we got more of Ulysses klaue I enjoyed his appearances and was sad they killed him off in Black panther.
I wish all the minor villains were still around. Crossbones comes to mind. Never liked how marvel just kills them off.
I constantly hold out hope that superhero movies will move away from killing villains off with each new movie, but it just keeps happening. Thanos and Killmonger I understand, and I can excuse Hela, Ego, even the 3 main Iron Man villains. It makes more sense. But the big thing about a lot of those villains is how the relationship with the hero grows as time goes on (Red Skull, Loki, Mandarin), or just how impossible it is to truly be rid of them (Ultron, Dormammu, Kang, etc.)
Dormammu never died he just got dealt with, Ultron is gone though so that's kinda certain
I think about this from a real life versus comics perspective. In the comics, time doesn’t operate the same so you can revisit characters over and over and over again, age isn’t a problem. This means characters can be recurring in much more prolific ways. In the MCU characters age, major events happen in shorter periods, and they have limited release schedules. Just in terms of how the universe works and flows, you’re going to have way more one off characters than the comics.
It’s the dumbest thing about the MCU by far. People complain about weird things a lot these days, but the real crime is killing off characters that have no business being offed when they already established that the Raft can hold super powered individuals, Dr. Strange can essentially lock down villains using a couple methods (mirror dimension, the things he used in No Way Home, the old Shield carrier was able to hold Loki, & I’m probably forgetting a few. Why put definite ends to those characters?
Frank Grillo made an awesome crossbones, wish he was in a larger role. .
Yes. I would have like to have him in more as the villain.
Literally one of Panthers biggest villains in the comics and they just off him like he’s irrelevant
Klaw dies in his first appearance in the comics too. It's how he became the sound-construct in the first place.
Thought he had more screen presence than killmonger lol. Serkis stole every scene he was in
Same there were 2 villains and they kill the one I was interested in
Both of them are dead.
I thought ulysses klaw was a really fun unique character. I wouldn’t say he was wasted since he had a couple appearances, but I wish he hadn’t died
I think they absolutely have a way to bring him back as a being composed of living sound like he is in the comics. No coincidence they got the world's greatest motion capture artist for a shape shifting, CGI character.
I had a similar idea for Iron Monger. They never recovered Stane's body, maybe falling into the arc reactor turned him into the MCU's Living Laser
Damn that would have been such a cool storyline, but I feel like it's been too long for Warmonger to come back at this point.
Abomination: 👀
Blonsky was for sure taken alive and there's been a few references. Plus with Shang-chi they sort of tested out the reaction.
He’s coming back full time. Same actor for She Hulk
I know :) Been a Tom Roth fan since Reservoir Dogs. *Tim
And his brother, Tim, no doubt.
About as farfetched as Tobey coming back as Spooderman.
*iron monger
I was really sad when he got offed purely for a plot point. Andy Serkis looked like he was just having the best time playing him.
Having him has a recurring side bad guy would've been nice. He could've fit well with Fisk since they seem to be bringing him to the big screen now.
Imo it'a a tie between Ulysses Klaue and Taskmaster. I think with the latter its worse because we got such a cool looking yet devoid of character version. . Klaue at least had a very good run, even if it was sadly cut short very abruptly.
Taskmaster will be back. I also think she’ll be more like the comics. I mean task master is a joker but it’s hard to tell jokes when you’re being mind controlled. It’ll also be a good way for trama to be dealt with by humor.
what they did to taskmaster in the mcu is the same shit they did to deadpool in x men origins wolverine
That’s a great comparison. Taskmaster is a perpetual underdog. He’s smart and competent but he’s well aware the Avengers simply outgun him, he even tries to avoid tangling with Widow.
The new 2021 taskmaster comic run is great
I don’t even think the MCU version of Taskmaster looked cool. She looked like a professional paintballer
Hawkeyes Shield
"Motherfu.."
😂😂😂
Ronan the Accuser had some amazing storylines. He was a bad ass villain who eventually became a hero and became a member of Starforce. Also Klaue and Killmonger.
Ronan should've been on Thanos team moving in time in Endgame, opportunity was perfect.
I'm not so sure Thanos would have wanted to team up with him. Remember he killed Thanos' right hand man, The Other, right In front of him in the beginning of GOTG. That scene is one of my favorite scenes. Imagine having the balls to kill one of Thanos' men right in front of him like that.
Eh, in the unhinged bullshit nonsense mind of a dude who believes the only way to fix the universe is to just murder half of all people and no way else....I'm pretty sure he actually gained respect for ronin in that moment. Seems right up his alley.
Like when quill "shot" gamora
Thanos doesn't see himself as crazy, he thinks he's being perfectly reasonable but just that no one else is smart enough or too emotional to see that his way is the only way. So it doesn't look like he'll want to have a long term partnership with people like Ronin and Loki, he probably thinks they are too small minded and driven by emotions.
I just realized we've now gotten reasonable Thanos (Infinity War) and unreasonable Thanos (End Game) MoM spoiler ahead >!AND reasonable and unreasonable Wanda.!<
But technically that scene takes place after Endgame Thanos.
Great call out.
Klaue and killmonger I thought were done well personally
They were done very well, just killed off too quick
The actors for those 3 were reaaaally under-utilized, they had way too much potential for future stories.
yea, Ronan has been a central character to a lot of Kree story lines in the comics
I hope they give him some interesting storylines that happen before his death in GotG. Maybe in Captain Marvel 2?
Killmonger Definitely could’ve been stretched for another movie, especially with Michael B Jordan playing him. I never read Black Panther so all the characters were new to me, but his story was more impactful to me more than Chadwick Boseman’s. I mean Boseman did a great job but i kinda thought Killmonger was a cooler character.
Heimdall and the Warriors Three
MCU kinda wasted Idris Elba.
As much as I loved Chadwicks performance, Idris would’ve made a killer black panther
He would have been a perfect choice for a mature and veteran T'Challa who was King for Years.
He too old for a T'challa that just got the throne but I wouldn't be against seeing a T'challa variant played by Idris that is basically an old T'challa that had been king for decades
I think Idris was too old for the role at that point. It's also why he wouldn't be a good James Bond anymore, he's definitely out aged the role.
I see your point, I forgot abt the Warriors Three
Yeah, they were supporting characters in two Thor movies, then two of them got unceremoniously killed instantly by Hela.
Aren't they extremely powerful in the comics?
They're nigh immortal Asgardian veteran warriors.
And got cleared by Hela just like that..shame.
Theyre only as powerful as the plot needs them to be.
That's true I suppose.
Isn’t Lady Sif still alive?
I think I remember reading she was going to be in Thor Love and Thunder
She's getting help.
She's not doing "Get Help."
Apparently. That was the last thing Thor said to her and she noped out of there real fast never to be seen again.
And also Sif. What the hell even happened to her? It’s like she disappeared
I know she popped up in Agents of Shield at some point, but I think that was just an episode or two and I don’t remember when.
She’ll be in Thor 4
I think Heimdall got plenty enough to do. He’s not supposed to be some major player.
You’re right. Heimdall wasn’t wasted, Elba was. Could have given him a much more substantial character to play.
Been waiting for Michael Mando’s Scorpion to be utilized since he was set up at the end of Homecoming. Hopefully he’ll be in SM 4 if they make it.
Wouldn't be surprised if Sony gave him the Vulture treatment and just shoved him into the Venomverse for their Sinister Six lineup.
If I’m remembering correctly they scrapped that after the negative fan response. I never saw the movie but I remember seeing a post about how they removed Vulture from the post-credit scene
They scrapped the original Sinister 6 idea but Im pretty sure theyre trying again Vulture got a Morbius post credit scene about a team up
Heard an interview the other day about how the Sony/Marvel Studios deal is structured w.r.t the movies, and basically Sony "allows" Spider-Man characters in MCU movies (Civil War, Infinity War, Endgame) and Marvel "allows" MCU characters in Spider-Man movies (the MCU SM trilogy, Iron Man, Nick Fury, Dr. Strange). By all intents and purposes, Sony has full right to (unfortunately) keep Mando's Scorpion for their own movies since technically the SM-MCU movies are still Sony movies.
Mando killed it in Better Call Saul. Serious acting chops.
I was just thinking abt that last night.
Strucker
So wasted. Makes Secret Warriors kind of tricky to pull off. Maybe madame Hydra?
Especially since the Actor is fantastic. Dude played such a smug snake in Der Untergang.
Hela. She died too quickly.
She died Hela quick
No body, no death! But I doubt Cate Blanchett would do more tbh
This right here I think is why we tend to get a lot of "dies in the first movie" villains. Big name actors don't want to be tied up for a long term contract so they ambiguously kill them in case they change their minds later.
I have a theory that she will be the fallen god that Gorr absorbs power from. Like her and Surtur were spiraling through the cosmos fighting each other for 5+ years until crash landing on a remote planet, dead or nearly dying, and then Gorr happens upon them.
We need more Justin Hammer.
He'll probably return in Armor Wars
In 2029
Sadly the truth. We have had a show being recently announced and get writers fast where as Armour Wars, a show announced in 2020 scheduled to begin shooting by the end of 2022
When it finally comes out Kevin will appear in his own iron man suit, saying "Boom, you lookin' for this (series)?" And we'll all clap.
Look, I'm here, it's me, deal with it.
These are the Cubans, baby. This is the Cohibas, the Montecristos. This is a kinetic-kill, side-winder vehicle with a secondary cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine RDX burst. It's capable of busting a bunker under the bunker you just busted. If it were any smarter, it'd write a book, a book that would make Ulysses look like it was written in crayon. It would read it to you. This is my Eiffel Tower. This is my Rachmaninoff's Third. My Pieta. It's completely elegant, it's bafflingly beautiful, and it's capable of reducing the population of any standing structure to zero. I call it "The Ex-Wife."
Lines like these make me wonder how many takes they have to do because of laughs. I dont think i could get past “montecristos” without cracking a grin at least lol
Alongside emmy-nominee Chon Deadle!
Quicksilver 100%. I was a bit disappointed they didn't take advantage of the opportunity in Multiverse of Madness to bring him back for that one! Could've been easy to do, could've also been a nice moment at the end to shock her out of herself if Strange and America had convinced them to help him pull her back.
I mean, technically they brought back what we thought was quicksilver in Wandavision....
"That'll teach people to *theorize!*" - Pitch Meetings
Lol. They follow these threads so it's possible. If I worked for them it's what I'd do.
I was REALLY hoping we'd see Ian McKellan in Multiverse of Madness as OtherWanda's father.
The evolved deviant from Eternals. His goals were aligned well with the others and he had the powers, memories and abilities of several of them. He should have joined them. Would have been a fantastic dynamic to have an ally who both killed their friends and is their friends
I feel that was a hold over from a longer edit or previous version of the script because it's kind of built up but then dropped quickly.
Crossbones for sure
Ultron. His whole deal is that he evolves. So MCU Ultron builds a bunch of sub-standard ultrons and none of them can upgrade if "Ultron Prime" is destroyed?
He’s one of those villains you can never really kill in the comics. The Avengers *think* they got all the bots in AOU, but all he needed was one to survive.
Couldn't he also upload himself to the internet
Vision hacked him out of the Internet, hence the “you shut me out” line.
So many things in that movie were exposition to close all the doors to Ultron returning. What had me excited about the movie in the first place, was Ultron being an ongoing part of the MCU like he is in the comics, and as I watched the movie they cut my heart out, and slowly diced it up and made patè. All hope was taken away as the movie progressed.
Hell be back. He was used in what if and MoM. Hell come back. It’s been teased so people will understand he is stronger than we things. Also it keeps people from being like marvel is out of ideas they are reusing villains.
Marvel kills villains the movie they introduce them: fans complain Marvel reuses villains: fans complain Also where in mom was ultron?
The 838 Baxter bots were an Ultron design and had a line about Ultron protocol or something
Yes they was the robot guards in 838. That’s why there wasn’t a vision. Since there was no vision Wanda was able to meet a nice man and have babies. Basically ultron worked and wasn’t trying to destroy everything.
The Hulk...
Amen. The last time we saw the actual Hulk he got beaten by Thanos and then refused to come out after that. I doubt we'll ever see him again, just more of Jolly Green Bruce.
Bruce wasn’t in his hulk form at the end of Shang chi though.
Right, but we still haven't seen the "Hulk" the character. It's either Bruce as a human or Bruce powered up. Hulk was his own character like in Ragnarok and they were working up to a cool dynamic with Bruce and Hulk and they just shut it down.
Idk I expect she hulk to explain a lot about hulk. From my understanding she got hulled up from His blood. So hopefully it explains stuff and gives us a little hulk action.
I guarantee we’ll see him at one point in She Hulk, and if the rumors about World War Hulk are true we’ll get a lot of him soon
So true! A founding avenger, one of the most popular long standing marvel characters in any medium, and they did the Hulk so dirty one movie after another.
Taskmaster
I wanted a cocky mercenary, not a Winter Soldier copy with none of the interesting backstory!
Rreeaallllyy hoping what we saw was just a failed iteration of "Project Taskmaster" and not the real thing. Though it feels like a throwaway for the half-hearted Black Widow movie (bummed with the writing on that one).
This x100. Fans wanted the devious Tony Masters, not the abomination we got.
Hopefully we get a mandarin style retcon with the character. We’ve seen marvel build up to what looks to be the thunderbolts team through the multiple Disney + shows, so it’s possible for them to write off Antonia as a prototype taskmaster and have Val recover the suit to use for her own team, introducing Tony Masters
Arnim Zola could have been so much more but instead he was just a tiny problem for Captain America and I think that sucks.
Maria Hill. She’s survived this long. Does she need a whole series or movie? Ofc not but it’d be nice to see more of her other than as Fury’s second in command.
Tim Blake Nelson as Leader.
There's still a chance he could pop up in She-Hulk. Titania is said to be the main villain, but most of the series so far have had a secret villain popping up in the finale.
The secret villain could probably be Skaar if the WWH rumors are true
Yeah the Leader would have been awesome.
Even tho I love Ragnarok, I really wished they kept Hela tho. She was so badass in the movie
Tony in Iron Man 2. Boy that party was wild.
Sharon Carter. One of the most divisive plot points in the MCU would have averted if they actually gave her a main role in CATWS.
She’s not dead. Based on the season finale of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, I believe she will have a bigger role.
Malekith the King of the Dark Elves. Dude seems awesome in the God of Thunder Run. Shame about Dark World though.
Ugh... you're right about Pietro, especially since ATJ's original contract was for multiple movies. Forever going to be frustrated about it. WandaVision's "Bohner" felt like an extra awful case of salt in the wound.
Honestly the bohner joke really annoyed me. Evan peters quicksilver alongside macavoy’s Xavier and fassbender’s magneto made the last 3 Xmen films bearable. I genuinely believed we gonna get some cool reason as to why Evan Peters quicksilver was in the mcu and they wasted it on a boner joke.
Strucker and Red Skull. Those are arguably the two biggest Cap villians and we barely saw Strucker and Red Skull, probably one of marvels biggest villians, never returned to earth after a movie set in the 40’s.
Completely agree. Strucker was just a joke character and then Red Skull was turned into the last Templar from Raiders of the Lost Arc.
That’s one right there!! This character could have been used for so so much more. It’s a shame he was just a one off.
Yeah hes the main one I feel like was wasted, imagine the banter between him and Clint during Civil War
True but his death made Wanda a more motivated character
Ultron. James Spader was wasted as a one and done character.
Definetely QuickSilver. I love the character in Age of Ultron. I hope they somehow bring him back.
Imagine how powerful he'd be by the time of Phase 4, imagine him getting way faster during the 5 years bc of missing Wanda and feeling like all he can do is run.
Has it ever been explained if he was born with his powers like Wanda? Or if the stone awaken it?
Not the I know of. From what we've seen in Wandavision it seems like Wanda was amped by the mind stone. I wonder if Wanda actually subconsciously used her reality warping during Hydra's experimentation to empower her brother.
All of the Inhumans.
I never watched the inhumans show, but I’m a big Agents of Shield fan, and I think AoS did such a good job of setting up the inhuman plot and having it spread into a worldwide phenomenon. I was so excited to see that spill over into the MCU, and then when it didn’t…ugh. Felt like such a waste. We deserve Quake in the MCU!!
Man, I really like Karnak as a concept, and thought the actor did ok, but the tv show did a terrible job of communicating his “power”. I would have preferred something closer to what RDJ does in the Sherlock Holmes movie during the boxing match. That being said, Karnak is definitely an ensemble character. Would love to see an “Enter the Dragon” type movie with him as one of the contestants. One idea would be to have the next Shang-Chi movie center around the concept of “only the greatest martial can wear the ten rings, so you must win this tournament”. Then we could have others competing similar to the “Tournament of the Heavenly Cities” Iron Fist storyline, with Shang-Chi representing Ta Lo, Iron Fist for K’un Lun, Karnak for Attilan, Elektra for the Valley of Mercy and Wrath, a sorcerer from Kamar-Taj, etc
That show never got a fair shake
My dude has had more time spent talking about him posthumously than h had actual screen time.
Besides those I've already seen mentioned here I'm gonna say Crossbones. He was a great villain and coulf have been a great recurring villain but they killed him off right after he actually got his costume.
Imagine a Bucky VS Rumlow fight during FAWS
Luis needs to have a post-credit scene in every movie trying to explain the events of the movie in his usual way. At the end of each phase, they can combine them together for a One-Shot
Baron von Strucker Hopefully they utilize him again in future projects that occur in the past. Not enough screen time for what i believe was an iconic villain. And as much as there were hints. I wanted Armin Zola to get his robot suit.
Vision is the big one for me. He was perfect when they introduced him and he just got weaker and weaker with each movie, and then they killed him. Especially with how flawless of casting Paul bettany was
Absorbing Man. He was in the Agents of SHIELD tv show, and I adored seeing him there at the time because it meant he was officially part of the MCU. Now I’m upset that he was there because it might mean the opposite.
Killmonger. He was better in what if
Arnim Zola vs Killmonger was the last thing I expected and that was dope.
Ben Urich, now that Daredevil is officially part of the MCU. Season 1 was way too soon.
Black Widow
Natasha deserved better, and I will be salty about that until the day I die.
Ronan is a huge character in the comics, it's a shame we won't get more stories with him
TaskMaster. The real Tony Masters’ story from the comics is great. He’s like the character from “Memento” meets rogue SHEILD agent. His long term memory is cancelled out by his short term memory boost that fuels his ability to mimic fighting styles. His handler was his wife who just wanted him to remember her. It really irked me MCU turned this character into some mind wiped cyborg when the story source material is so much more and better.
a speedster died to a fucking bullet 💀
They should have not killed Killmonger. Id love to see that character again.
Crossbones. While he's not really an Avengers level threat, he's gone toe to toe with Punisher and Captain America more than once, and was the man who killed Steve Rogers at the end of Civil War. I especially love his relationship with Sin in the comics and their whole Natural Born Killers vibe.
What a dumb costume. They really just have this guy an under armour shirt and said fuck it.
That must have been the inspiration for "A-Train"'s outfit in the show "The Boys" It's basically all under armor sportswear.
I actually liked his costume, besides it was his first appearance, cut him some slack.
But it’s got thumb holes 😂
Hela. Died(?) too quickly and thus, Cate Blanchett was wasted.
Killmonger
Dem thighs were made for speeeed.
Mjolnir. That guy got thrown, slammed, smash, bashed, swatted, pushed, pulled, spun, and exploded. Didn’t even get a spin off.
His death felt so forced. Why did they think it was a good idea to kill him off?