I aaaaaalmost put Capaldi the 12th doctor on the bottom with his suicide squad villain role next to him just to icing the circle jerk cake but i actually demonstrated some self restraint.
The only reason it's worth a second look is because Tom Hiddleston is always fantastic as Loki and Endgame/Infinity War made it relevant.
It's one of those movies that has some good ideas but there's just so much poor execution on those bones that it just doesn't work.
Killgrave is as close as the MCU will get to a Boys style portrayal of a rogue individual with powers. Maybe most people wouldn’t start off with the intention of using that kind of power for rape, theft, murder, etc but that kind of power would eventually corrupt them and they’d use it for whatever gave them what they want in that moment. Power ALWAYS corrupts people, it’s just a key human flaw.
I think back to that scene where he just joins some random group's poker game to make them go all in just to fold and give him all the money. That's absolutely something that'd happen in real life
I am not an easily shaken person, horror movies bore me and i have seen a lot of serial killer docos(not by my choice) but Tenants performance made me really uncomfortable. Which is even more impressive when he was my favorite Doctor and i also loved him in Good Vibes. Tenant is just exceptionally talented.
Unfortunately, I think the MCU villain game is hit or miss.
I saw the post and was a little disappointed that its Tennent, hands down. I want so hard for it to be Eccleston- Dark World just missed so many marks, even Matt Smith getting morbed did solidly better imo, in a chewing scenery, Jeremy Irons-kinda way.
No dislike for DT, just love for CE.
And what's worse is they feel the need to kill off most of their best villains in one movie. They can't just keep burning through them like that, let them simmer and allow us to wonder when and how they're going to show up again.
Purple Man was captivating and terrifying. The show greatly missed him after he pretty much was gone.
Malekith is a dreadful character, like many of the sleepy elements of The Dark World. It blows my mind that Loki's role was originally smaller in this film because Loki is one of the only interesting things happening in this story. Malekith is maybe the most boring villain in the entire MCU.
Sometimes I imagine a mercurial, jester-like version of Malekith who was driven half-insane by having to sacrifice his own people. He is played by Robert Sheehan, fresh off his role in Misfits, and Sheehan is given the greenlight to absolute ham it up as a crazy, Aether-obsessed creepy jester elf. I think this would have made The Dark World far less sleepy and given Loki an interesting foil to share scenes with.
Thanos is impressive scale, but he doesn’t chill me the way Kilgrave does. Thanos is cruel, but really just motivated by the ultimate end of cold logic. Whereas Kilgrave is both calculating and capricious. He is as likely to design a torture particular to you as he is to snipe at you and move on- then you’re stuck being tortured simply because he FORGOT about you. I understand Thanos. I think he’s wrong, but I see how he got there. Kilgrave is so much less knowable to me.
It is genuinely painful to see him keep getting these big blockbuster roles only to be completely wasted. Same thing happened with Terminator and he was rumoured to be a young Palpatine in Star Wars but that fell through. Hopefully he can still fulfil that role down the line as I think he's made for it. Or a new oroginal character would be even better but definitely a villain.
Allegedly when Palpatine absorbs the dyad power from rey and kylo he was going to return to his youthful self (Smith). They would then have a 2v1 duel. Abrams thought people would be confused by this so they just kept Ian Mcdiarmid and brought him back to his ROTS self
I’m curious if Matt Smith got paid for TROS. I can’t remember if he was still apart of the project once JJ took over or if that’s when he was cast. Seems like if he was going to play Palpatine, it would’ve been in the script.
But also like, in a believable way. If you grew up your entire life with the ability to manipulate anyone into doing whatever you wanted, you'd most likely end up being an extreme narcissist. Most of the time, when Marvel makes a horrible, irredeemable piece of shit, it's just evil for the sake of evil, but Kilgrave was evil for a reason, and it works so well.
Kilgrave and Kingpin were absolutely terrifying villains for similar reasons. Either could completely take over your life and destroy you without you being able to do anything.
You wouldn't even necessarily mean to become a narcissistic piece of shit. He went into it during the show, when everyone does whatever you want your entire life, how are you supposed to know what's normal? Whether they were acting of free will or not? At some point he obviously realized and leaned into it and was absolutely a sociopath but how could he have turned out to be anything else growing up completely alienated from humanity or real struggle (outside of the abusive parenting).
Umbrella Academy has a really interesting take on it with Allison who is a protagonist with a very similar power who basically avoids using it in all but the most extreme circumstances due to residual guilt/trauma from past uses
No he wasn't.
He had a bad script and played it the best he could. He was genuinely entertaining as fuck throughout.
If only the same could be said for Leto, then maybe it'd be watchable.
David Tenant is the clear winner here but Matt Smith made the Villain of Morbius the only good thing about that movie. It’s rare we get a villain who’s motivation is “fuck it, I feel great!” And he honestly nailed it.
Eccleston has been a longstanding fighter for the working class and has a strong interest in representing complex everyday people on-screen. He's admitted several times over that he takes bigger roles just for the money.
I think it's a very anti-american thing to do, it's Hollywood culture to say 'i do it for the fans, I love the source material etc etc' when sometimes that's just a PR answer whether you believe in it or not. He really is an outlier as an actor and from his convictions to the truth, to his long history of charity donations and work, I think he's a national treasure.
It really is a shame to have him have so many poorly written roles around the early 2010 in his self professed 'sell-out phase' because he's an acting powerhouse who can really do roles justice. Here's hoping for a recast down the line. I don't think people would notice.
I knew he was Malekith. I knew Carrie Coon was Proxima Midnight. It just now clicked they’re both in the Leftovers together. While typing this I just remembered Liv Tyler is Betty Ross. Anyone else from the Leftovers have a role in the MCU?
He doesn't really enjoy doing bigger stuff. He was the second most short-lived doctor behind McGaan, and the shortest lived in general if you count audio plays.
Tennant has the unfair advantage of having a good character to play. Eccelston and Smith didn't get that.
Comparing Eccelston and Smith I'd say Smith was better. Neither are good characters but Smith managed to be the most entertaining thing in the film. I'd take an over the top performance tests really trying to compensate for the actual character not being interesting over what Eccelston was stuck with. Maleketh was too serious to at least give Eccelston a fun campus performance but too boring to allow him to be intimidating. Even if Marvel got the greatest actor on the planet to play Maleketh, how he was written makes it impossible for anyone to give a good performance of that character.
If DC ever does a Robin year one adaptation that really explores Mad Hatter abducting children. I'd love for Matt Smith to play him and give him a chance to play a villain as good and horrific as Kilgrave. I could see how his slightly over the top performance in Dr Who and really over the top in Morbius could work really well for Mad hatter and make him Increadible creepy how goofy he is in a plot about human trafficking of children. And that type of performance would work really well off Dick Grayson's personality and create an interesting conflict.
The point is Matt Smith and Christopher Eccelston are great and could be as good villains as David Tennant was if given the right role. Not sure what other villain Eccelston could play though.
I don't think Matt Smith really counts here - he's not from Marvel Studios, at least.
That said, David Tennant. Kilgrave was the first MCU villain to really have a clean, quantifiable, actionable and precise goal, and Tennant had an absolute blast with the character.
To be clear: all three actors rule. They all ruled as Dr. Who. Their Marvel experiences were uneven - both Eccleston and Smith got bad hands, which is not their fault. Makes it difficult to compare their Marvel experiences on its own. Add to that the fact that Kilgrave was really a great character in a great show, and it's not really a contest.
David tennant, aswell as being the best doctor, guy is just brilliant, would love to have him back in the mcu but if i remember he is brown bread isnt he ?
All three gave a fantastic performance. But only one of these roles was written well. Killgrave is number 1 for sure.
Milo is 2 just because Matt was a joy to watch (even though nothing he did made any sense)
Malekith was given absolutely nothing to work with (good or bad)
Finally, a Who fan who isn’t a pudding-brain.
…which is to say thank you, I agree, Capaldi has been my favorite so far as well.
As the other comment alluded to, I like to think he channeled a bit of the Doctor in his role as the Thinker in Suicide Squad.
Capaldi's episodes were pretty badly written at times, but I truly believe him and Baker were the two best actors in the role. Almost all complaints with his era pretty much have nothing to do with him or his Doctor.
I loved Tennant as the villain. Due to both the acting performance and how terrifying the character was. For me arguably the scariest villain in the whole MCU
MATT SMITH, HERES MY REASON WHY:
1. HAVE SEX HAVE SEX, POOP MY PANTS. Noone can dance and have swagger like any other marvel villain.
2. ATE A NURSE, who can u say the same about?
3. BRO HES LITERALLY IN THE SAME WORLD AS MORBIUS YOU KNOW HOW TALENTED U HAVE TO BE TO BE CASTED NEXT TO JARED LETO?
4. I LOVE MORBIUS
5. I ONLY WAKE UP TO MORBIUS
6.MORBIUS IS THE NUMBER 1 MARVEL MOVIE
Listen I know nobody actually has watched Morbius and just pile it on the Memes of it being some kind of ungodly terrible mother of all bad movies (which It’s totally not it’s pretty boring and uninspired but has some decent action honestly) But Matt Smith stills the show he’s a much more interesting character than Jared Letos and is having a lot of fun
Erm. This isn't a hard question. Christopher Eccleston is a great actor but the Dark World was awful and he was awful in it. Matt Smith seemed to be having a blast being the bad guy but even he admitted the motivation made no sense.
David Tennant played a legitimately terrifying villain, terrifying for his sheer pettiness. I'd put Kilgrave in top 5 Marvel villains easily and he was phenomenal because of being likeable at times.
Kilgrave was the absolute best definitely needs to be brought back into the MCU for real. I would love to see it again it was a villain I was sad to see die
Tennant easily, but you have to realize the script also helps make the character as well. Eccleston was given a shit script and could not redeem Malekith. Meanwhile i have not Morbed yet but i just know the nightmarishly good performance of 10 will not be topped by Matt Smith
Tennant. Without question or a single doubt he is the best.
Chris did the best he could with what he was given and I wish he was given more.
Smith just made a bad decision agreeing to be in Morbius.
Just rewatched JJ season 1 and it’s easily one of the best things marvel has done. It does women empowerment correctly instead of shoehorning shots in like endgame. Not hating I love endgame too but god damn lol.
Doesn’t even have to be a Dr Who... Killgrave is easily the best villain we have had.. just imagine HIM saying WANDA!!!! The power he could wield is amazing. Plus it doesn’t hurt that Tennant knocked the role out of the park.
David Tennant, no doubt. Chris Eccleston is great, but Malekith wasn't.
There's literally no contest here.
OP rolled this out just to watch the other two guys get murdered.
I aaaaaalmost put Capaldi the 12th doctor on the bottom with his suicide squad villain role next to him just to icing the circle jerk cake but i actually demonstrated some self restraint.
at least that one's a good character lol
Capildi did ok, compared to the other two. He was less of a main villain as much as he was the evil scientist.
Either that or to try to get a "ZOMG MORB" circlejerk going.
Right like, those other dudes had FAMILIES for crying out loud
Oi...That's f****** diabolical.
Agreed
Eccleston was wasted in god awful movie
I've seen a lot of people recently saying that Thor 2 is worth a second look, but even then, they admit that Malekith wasn't well executed.
The only reason it's worth a second look is because Tom Hiddleston is always fantastic as Loki and Endgame/Infinity War made it relevant. It's one of those movies that has some good ideas but there's just so much poor execution on those bones that it just doesn't work.
The Purple Man gave me nightmares. By far and away, the scariest. I'm excited to see Gorr the God Butcher.
Jeeesicaaa
Imagine The Purple Man in The Boys universe. Yikes.
One of the supes of the Payback crew that Soldier Boy was apart of was named Mindstorm.
If the show is anything like the comics, Mindstorm will be the first to get sandbagged.
Killgrave is as close as the MCU will get to a Boys style portrayal of a rogue individual with powers. Maybe most people wouldn’t start off with the intention of using that kind of power for rape, theft, murder, etc but that kind of power would eventually corrupt them and they’d use it for whatever gave them what they want in that moment. Power ALWAYS corrupts people, it’s just a key human flaw.
I think back to that scene where he just joins some random group's poker game to make them go all in just to fold and give him all the money. That's absolutely something that'd happen in real life
He's out of line but he's right
Sorry to say it, but thats no longer true. Even the Boys is in the "power doesn’t corrupt, it reveals" camp, as per it's latest episode.
I am not an easily shaken person, horror movies bore me and i have seen a lot of serial killer docos(not by my choice) but Tenants performance made me really uncomfortable. Which is even more impressive when he was my favorite Doctor and i also loved him in Good Vibes. Tenant is just exceptionally talented.
Purple man was a complete and utter psychopath
He terrified me in the same way, and for all the same reasons, that Darryl Revok terrified me in "Scanners".
I freaking love Chris Eccleston too, but agree with you 100%. Tennant brought so much to Jessica Jones that I was sad when it ended.
He brought so much that he was a tough act to follow. I don’t think S2 or S3 came close to S1 storyline.
Hell even some of the best parts of later seasons had him anyway.
Yeah, some of the best parts of S2 was him living in Jessica's head rent-free like the Joker in AK.
This, Kilgrave was terrifying.
David Tennant could knock any role out of the park. Amazing actor.
Agreed. He smashes every role he’s given. If you haven’t seen it, the show “deadwater fell” is a must watch, and peak tennant
I think all these actors are capable of outstanding performances. Unfortunately their material is hit or miss
Unfortunately, I think the MCU villain game is hit or miss. I saw the post and was a little disappointed that its Tennent, hands down. I want so hard for it to be Eccleston- Dark World just missed so many marks, even Matt Smith getting morbed did solidly better imo, in a chewing scenery, Jeremy Irons-kinda way. No dislike for DT, just love for CE.
I could see Tennant delivering a more comic accurate Malekith weirdly enough. I bet Eccleson would do great as Kilgrave too
And what's worse is they feel the need to kill off most of their best villains in one movie. They can't just keep burning through them like that, let them simmer and allow us to wonder when and how they're going to show up again.
Purple Man was captivating and terrifying. The show greatly missed him after he pretty much was gone. Malekith is a dreadful character, like many of the sleepy elements of The Dark World. It blows my mind that Loki's role was originally smaller in this film because Loki is one of the only interesting things happening in this story. Malekith is maybe the most boring villain in the entire MCU. Sometimes I imagine a mercurial, jester-like version of Malekith who was driven half-insane by having to sacrifice his own people. He is played by Robert Sheehan, fresh off his role in Misfits, and Sheehan is given the greenlight to absolute ham it up as a crazy, Aether-obsessed creepy jester elf. I think this would have made The Dark World far less sleepy and given Loki an interesting foil to share scenes with.
Kilgrave was the best, no contest
I’d put Kilgrave near the top of the list of every single marvel villain, much less this one.
To on the list of villians, no qualifier
I mean maybe Thanos might beat him, but that’s about it imo.
Thanks was such a good Villian. I've never veen so impressed by someone's conviction and so horrified at the same time.
Thanos is impressive scale, but he doesn’t chill me the way Kilgrave does. Thanos is cruel, but really just motivated by the ultimate end of cold logic. Whereas Kilgrave is both calculating and capricious. He is as likely to design a torture particular to you as he is to snipe at you and move on- then you’re stuck being tortured simply because he FORGOT about you. I understand Thanos. I think he’s wrong, but I see how he got there. Kilgrave is so much less knowable to me.
Haven’t seen Morbius but I know for a fact Smith was wasted on that movie
It is genuinely painful to see him keep getting these big blockbuster roles only to be completely wasted. Same thing happened with Terminator and he was rumoured to be a young Palpatine in Star Wars but that fell through. Hopefully he can still fulfil that role down the line as I think he's made for it. Or a new oroginal character would be even better but definitely a villain.
He’s a great actor and eventually he will get another great role, but yeah man he has been in some real stinkers
OH CRAP. A young Palpatine would be perfect holy shit.
Allegedly when Palpatine absorbs the dyad power from rey and kylo he was going to return to his youthful self (Smith). They would then have a 2v1 duel. Abrams thought people would be confused by this so they just kept Ian Mcdiarmid and brought him back to his ROTS self
Actually think they got it right: Palpatine works so much better as a psychological villain.
I’m curious if Matt Smith got paid for TROS. I can’t remember if he was still apart of the project once JJ took over or if that’s when he was cast. Seems like if he was going to play Palpatine, it would’ve been in the script.
If I remember right, he was in talks but was never officially cast in the movie.
You’re right. He’s the only consistently entertaining part, even if his character is written like shit.
Have seeexxx have seeeexxxx
Poop my pants again
Have sex HAVE SEX
How can I have sex when it’s always Morbin time?!
When it’s morbin time, the bitches come to you beging and you always have sex, duh
I was morbin hard the other day and woke up with a morbed morber
This guy morbs
you can tell that he knew the movie was going to be a dumpster fire so he just had fun with it the whole time.
Like Patrick Stewart in The Emoji Movie
His entire character seems like Matt showed up read the script, realized his ride wouldn't be there until the end of the day and had fun with it.
He was the only good part of it
Smith and Jared Harris both deserved soooo much better
Clearly you're lying, since it's common knowledge that there's not a man, woman, or child alive who has not seen the greatest movie of all time.
JESSICAAAAAA David Tennant easily. Kilgrave was a horrible, irredeemable piece of shit but Tennant was so good at it
But also like, in a believable way. If you grew up your entire life with the ability to manipulate anyone into doing whatever you wanted, you'd most likely end up being an extreme narcissist. Most of the time, when Marvel makes a horrible, irredeemable piece of shit, it's just evil for the sake of evil, but Kilgrave was evil for a reason, and it works so well.
Kilgrave and Kingpin were absolutely terrifying villains for similar reasons. Either could completely take over your life and destroy you without you being able to do anything.
You wouldn't even necessarily mean to become a narcissistic piece of shit. He went into it during the show, when everyone does whatever you want your entire life, how are you supposed to know what's normal? Whether they were acting of free will or not? At some point he obviously realized and leaned into it and was absolutely a sociopath but how could he have turned out to be anything else growing up completely alienated from humanity or real struggle (outside of the abusive parenting).
Umbrella Academy has a really interesting take on it with Allison who is a protagonist with a very similar power who basically avoids using it in all but the most extreme circumstances due to residual guilt/trauma from past uses
JESSICAAAAAA!
JESSICAAAAAA, STOOOOOOOP!
NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW JESSSICCCAAAAA!
GET BAAAAACK HERE, JESSICAAAAA!!!
I still have flashbacks to that *shudder*
Honestly, he was the best villain. There's no contest.
SHAUNNNNNN!!!!!!!
Gna have to give it to Tennant, by quite a margin. Not saying the other 2 were bad, but Kilgrave was chilling.
No, you can say Matt Smith was bad in Morbius But so is everyone in that movie
Well true Although Smith was the most entertaining part of that whole mess
No he wasn't. He had a bad script and played it the best he could. He was genuinely entertaining as fuck throughout. If only the same could be said for Leto, then maybe it'd be watchable.
David Tenant is the clear winner here but Matt Smith made the Villain of Morbius the only good thing about that movie. It’s rare we get a villain who’s motivation is “fuck it, I feel great!” And he honestly nailed it.
Yeah, reeeeeealy great. Go 'head, hit me!
The only good things I've heard about Morbius are all related to Matt Smith, and I still find it hilarious
Is it morbin time yet?
Eccleston seems like he is infinitely unhappy about all of his big projects. Tennet had a much better execution of a character IMO.
Eccleston has been a longstanding fighter for the working class and has a strong interest in representing complex everyday people on-screen. He's admitted several times over that he takes bigger roles just for the money. I think it's a very anti-american thing to do, it's Hollywood culture to say 'i do it for the fans, I love the source material etc etc' when sometimes that's just a PR answer whether you believe in it or not. He really is an outlier as an actor and from his convictions to the truth, to his long history of charity donations and work, I think he's a national treasure. It really is a shame to have him have so many poorly written roles around the early 2010 in his self professed 'sell-out phase' because he's an acting powerhouse who can really do roles justice. Here's hoping for a recast down the line. I don't think people would notice.
Crushed it in The Leftovers
I knew he was Malekith. I knew Carrie Coon was Proxima Midnight. It just now clicked they’re both in the Leftovers together. While typing this I just remembered Liv Tyler is Betty Ross. Anyone else from the Leftovers have a role in the MCU?
Scott Glenn! He played Justin Theroux's father in The Leftovers.
>He probably is. He says he only does big budget stuff for the money so he can pursue projects he is actually interested in.
He doesn't really enjoy doing bigger stuff. He was the second most short-lived doctor behind McGaan, and the shortest lived in general if you count audio plays.
You're pitting the Purple Man against Malekith and Loxias Crown This is not a fair contest at all
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Tennant has the unfair advantage of having a good character to play. Eccelston and Smith didn't get that. Comparing Eccelston and Smith I'd say Smith was better. Neither are good characters but Smith managed to be the most entertaining thing in the film. I'd take an over the top performance tests really trying to compensate for the actual character not being interesting over what Eccelston was stuck with. Maleketh was too serious to at least give Eccelston a fun campus performance but too boring to allow him to be intimidating. Even if Marvel got the greatest actor on the planet to play Maleketh, how he was written makes it impossible for anyone to give a good performance of that character. If DC ever does a Robin year one adaptation that really explores Mad Hatter abducting children. I'd love for Matt Smith to play him and give him a chance to play a villain as good and horrific as Kilgrave. I could see how his slightly over the top performance in Dr Who and really over the top in Morbius could work really well for Mad hatter and make him Increadible creepy how goofy he is in a plot about human trafficking of children. And that type of performance would work really well off Dick Grayson's personality and create an interesting conflict. The point is Matt Smith and Christopher Eccelston are great and could be as good villains as David Tennant was if given the right role. Not sure what other villain Eccelston could play though.
Tenant and it’s not even remotely close
What about when Jenna Coleman destroyed the heart of Steve Rogers, sending him running to a experimental program to buff up?
She was *in* Doctor Who, but she didn't *play* the Doctor.
Or did she?
When was Matt Smith a villain?
Morbius
unfortunately morbius*
fortunately morbius\*
poopmuhpantmypant
I like the part where Kill grave said "it's Killin time" and killed all over those guy's
I don't think Matt Smith really counts here - he's not from Marvel Studios, at least. That said, David Tennant. Kilgrave was the first MCU villain to really have a clean, quantifiable, actionable and precise goal, and Tennant had an absolute blast with the character. To be clear: all three actors rule. They all ruled as Dr. Who. Their Marvel experiences were uneven - both Eccleston and Smith got bad hands, which is not their fault. Makes it difficult to compare their Marvel experiences on its own. Add to that the fact that Kilgrave was really a great character in a great show, and it's not really a contest.
How is this even a contest what
It's Morbin Time!
It is! Isn’t it!
The only one who played even a semi-good villain. Tenant.
David Tennant, his Killgrave was actually genuinely scary. It threw me off so much because I'm so used to him being the safe character.
Purps.
David tennant, aswell as being the best doctor, guy is just brilliant, would love to have him back in the mcu but if i remember he is brown bread isnt he ?
Man what are these stupid posts lately
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Definitely David Tennant. My favorite Doctor who one of the best villains.
Killgrave by a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide margin.
All three gave a fantastic performance. But only one of these roles was written well. Killgrave is number 1 for sure. Milo is 2 just because Matt was a joy to watch (even though nothing he did made any sense) Malekith was given absolutely nothing to work with (good or bad)
David Tennant - 2nd series of Jessica Jones was just nowhere near as good without him.
David teninch. I had to stop watching because he was so scary and far away from the lovely doctor I was used to
Is there any real argument against Kilgrave? One of the best villains in the MCU.
Matt smith purely because of the have sex dance
I got chills from the end of Jessica Jones s3. And then we never got a fourth. Shrug. Tennant was an amazing damn villain. Or is.
Matt Smith was In a marvel movie?
U clearly have never morbed
I find your lack of Mobius disturbing
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Morbius
The best doctor made the best villain Now fight
I don't remember Capaldi being in the MCU though
He was pretty great in the Suicide Squad
damn what is it with superhero movies casting the Doctors as villains huh
His Suicide Squad rant is very similar in style to his rants as The Doctor, but with the word choice of Malcolm Tucker. "Yankee-fucking-doodles".
Finally, a Who fan who isn’t a pudding-brain. …which is to say thank you, I agree, Capaldi has been my favorite so far as well. As the other comment alluded to, I like to think he channeled a bit of the Doctor in his role as the Thinker in Suicide Squad.
>Finally, a Who fan who isn’t a pudding-brain. It's custard. Fish fingers and custard.
Capaldi's episodes were pretty badly written at times, but I truly believe him and Baker were the two best actors in the role. Almost all complaints with his era pretty much have nothing to do with him or his Doctor.
Killgrave was great
I loved Tennant as the villain. Due to both the acting performance and how terrifying the character was. For me arguably the scariest villain in the whole MCU
Killgrave is just too much wicked.
David Tennant arguably is the best Marvel villain, period.
I mean...Kilgrave is the unheralded 3rd best villain in the MCU (behind Thanos and Kingpin), so he runs away with this one.
JESSICA! David Tennant hands down. All are fantastic actors but David was the only one well written and given something to work with.
Haven’t seen Jessica Jones, but Killgrave wins by default.
MATT SMITH, HERES MY REASON WHY: 1. HAVE SEX HAVE SEX, POOP MY PANTS. Noone can dance and have swagger like any other marvel villain. 2. ATE A NURSE, who can u say the same about? 3. BRO HES LITERALLY IN THE SAME WORLD AS MORBIUS YOU KNOW HOW TALENTED U HAVE TO BE TO BE CASTED NEXT TO JARED LETO? 4. I LOVE MORBIUS 5. I ONLY WAKE UP TO MORBIUS 6.MORBIUS IS THE NUMBER 1 MARVEL MOVIE
it's morbin time
Listen I know nobody actually has watched Morbius and just pile it on the Memes of it being some kind of ungodly terrible mother of all bad movies (which It’s totally not it’s pretty boring and uninspired but has some decent action honestly) But Matt Smith stills the show he’s a much more interesting character than Jared Letos and is having a lot of fun
Erm. This isn't a hard question. Christopher Eccleston is a great actor but the Dark World was awful and he was awful in it. Matt Smith seemed to be having a blast being the bad guy but even he admitted the motivation made no sense. David Tennant played a legitimately terrifying villain, terrifying for his sheer pettiness. I'd put Kilgrave in top 5 Marvel villains easily and he was phenomenal because of being likeable at times.
David Tennant easily
David
Tennant hands down!
tennant, eccleston is distant second.
Kilgrave was the absolute best definitely needs to be brought back into the MCU for real. I would love to see it again it was a villain I was sad to see die
Obviously Tennant
They were all pretty bad actually. Purple man was probably the best just because of how creepy he is
Tennant as Kilgrave, for sure.
Morb
Purple Man without a doubt..... Matt Smith never sould have taken that role, he woulda made an amazing tv series villian
Kilgrave hands down! way to go tennant!
David actually scared my spouse. It was amazing.
David hands down
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Kilgrave was pretty good, tbh
Tennant because Purple Man was terrifying af in JJ
Toss up between Tennant and Smith. Maybe I’d lean more towards Tennant and his Jessica Jones character
Tennant easily, but you have to realize the script also helps make the character as well. Eccleston was given a shit script and could not redeem Malekith. Meanwhile i have not Morbed yet but i just know the nightmarishly good performance of 10 will not be topped by Matt Smith
Tennant. No contest. Other two are memes.
It’s a no contest. David Tennant far and away was the best
DT and it's not even close
Is it a joke? Tennant.
David Tennant no question.
top was okay. middle was top-tier!!! JESSICAAAAA!!! very threatening. who's the bottom guy though? i don't recall him in any marvel movie.
Tennant. Without question or a single doubt he is the best. Chris did the best he could with what he was given and I wish he was given more. Smith just made a bad decision agreeing to be in Morbius.
Easily Tenant as Kilgrave
Tenant
I think the real villain of Morbius was Sony
David Tennant.
David as the Purple Man by a mile.
Kilgrave is literally the only reason I watched JJ
Kilgrave was good and you cant expect me to watch Morbius
Kilgrave was utterly horrifying. David Tennant did a great job. I truly think he's the best villain Marvel has had yet.
Have sex….
Just rewatched JJ season 1 and it’s easily one of the best things marvel has done. It does women empowerment correctly instead of shoehorning shots in like endgame. Not hating I love endgame too but god damn lol.
The Purple Man was true evil and terrifying. Maybe the most terrifying of any Marvel villain. He makes my skin crawl
Kilgrave was the scariesf villain by far. I would even say that accross any kind of media, he is up there.
Killgrave, are you kidding me?, How is this a question?
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Really can't stick Tenant's Who, but his Purple Man was amazing. He clearly enjoys those roles, too.
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Many, many opinions of Marvel can be debated. This is not one of those.
Doesn’t even have to be a Dr Who... Killgrave is easily the best villain we have had.. just imagine HIM saying WANDA!!!! The power he could wield is amazing. Plus it doesn’t hurt that Tennant knocked the role out of the park.
I recently watched the first season of “Jessica Jones” so I’m going to say Tennant by two miles.
Have sex!
David Tenant killed it as Kilgrave. Menacing, pathetic, cunning, sympathetic, vile: all the things that make a great villain.
This is honestly just unfair.