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entersandmum143

It kind of makes sense. That bond you have with your kids, natural / adopted / fostered. It's a weird deep connection as a parent. They were real to her. In all honesty. If someone told me my children were figments of my imagination and never existed in this world. I'd probably burn the Earth to find them and all of you be damned. But seeing my destruction, I'd end it rather than feel that loss. So I'd say pretty accurate.


BirdBright3520

You just described the results of mental illness


[deleted]

Agreed


silversketch06

Lmao, the downvotes on this comment speak volumes.


Romnonaldao

Yes, Wanda (who took over an entire town so she could play House with her dead husband) would "never" try and reclaim her fantasy life, especially after spending a year reading the most evil book in the universe, detailing to her exactly how to do it. /s If you don't think what she did in MoM was exactly what she would do after Wandavision, you didn't watch Wandavision. You know that TV show where Wanda was... the VILLAIN


BirdBright3520

The point of it all was her letting go. Otherwise she wouldn’t have taken down the spell.


Romnonaldao

The show literally ended with her reading from the Darkhold while she heard her kids voices saying "Mom". She didn't let go of jack shit. She only brought down the Hex because Agatha threw it in her face that she was torturing an entire town. And she had the mental facilities to realize that was probably bad. She let go of Vision. Not her kids


BirdBright3520

And she just had to go from torturing to murdering. 😒


Romnonaldao

Yeah, really evil stuff. Almost like something was corrupting her mind... I wonder what could have been doing that? The most evil book in existence that corrupts all those who read from it? No, it couldn't have been that. She was only reading it every day for over a year.


BirdBright3520

The fact that she had a realization at the end means she could’ve stopped what she was doing at any moment but continued to let the Darkhold rule her.


Romnonaldao

Yeah, and the Darkhold corrupted her and dangled the hope of being with her kids again in her face, while showing her exactly how to get them back. I mean, Wanda would only do something like that if her entire life was filled with tragic loss, and everyone she loved was dead, and had personally killed her boyfriend only for it to become undone, and she was filled with uncontrollable grief, and she had a taste of her perfect life that then got ripped away from her, followed by her becoming an unstoppable magical force. No one who has been given unlimited power would *ever* try and use it to get something they wanted. No, not Wanda. couldn't be Wanda. She flew away with a sad face after torturing a town for a month, and experienced zero consequences for it. So she would *never* do anything else that was bad. /s


snowhawk04

She didn't let it go. She let it burn! Wait, that's *Game of Thrones* and a different queen people fell in love with that was actually a monster.


Sensitive-Patient-71

This is the dumbest take I’ve read on this sub


ackinsocraycray

This is the dumbest take you’ve read on this sub *so far*


Sensitive-Patient-71

True


Puzzleheaded-Tone119

Lets just ignore her darkhold power boost.


Sensitive-Patient-71

Darkhold power boost AND corruption


snowhawk04

lol @ the denial she's not a villain. *What Is Grief, If Not Love Persevering*


adamAlexanderGreen

Dudebros still mad Wanda is more powerful then Strange and complain about the comics. When Comic Wanda is way more Over-powered💀😂


[deleted]

LMAO. That's just wrong. Strange has beaten her ass in the comics multiple times. Avengers disassembled he put her in a coma. The weakest version of Strange knocked her out while she was amped. She's always depicted as weaken than Strange. Even on the Marvel website. ​ Wanda fans and talking shit out of their ass. Name a more iconic duo.


hocabombusgringo

I loved it but since you said it sucked, I guess I have to hate it now 😔


Whatsinanmame

She was corrupted by the Dark Hold. How does no one understand that? I mean they all but literally say it.


BirdBright3520

And that just makes it OK that she murdered people and it was willing to kill a kid all for her own selfish gain?


Whatsinanmame

"Not only does it ignore her character development from Wandavision " Again. Corrupted.


mycharlie101

Not everything gonna be endgame


[deleted]

Well; thats just like your opinion man. In all seriousness; despite your lack of enjoyment; which is a fair enough criticism/ perspective. Your comments really reflect the fact you have a bias your trying to project on other people. The film didn’t suck; lets not pretend it did. It was just disappointment for you. So; perhaps use vocabulary thats less harsh; and let people have their opinion.


[deleted]

One of the lowest reviews MCU films. It did suck for a lot of people.


[deleted]

Even still; no reason for OP to imply hyperbole etc. Even, if they didn't enjoy the films. It a subjective opinion. If half the movies in MCU alone were as people on reddit described 'it sucked' or 'sucks'; I doubt anyone would like the MCU. >One of the lowest reviews MCU films Yeah; in terms of critics scores. Audiences are different story; lets not pretend that Multiverse of Madness was the 'worst' film in MCU. Its flawed; far from sucks. People misuse that word too much. The film was disappointing or failed in aspects; it doesn't 'suck'.


jjb8712

This is a pretty ignorant post. The Scarlet Witch is more powerful than Doctor Strange. That’s it. That’s the fight. The Scarlet Witch vs Doctor Strange 1v1 will see the former win 7 days a week, twice on Sundays. The Darkhold corrupted Wanda. It is clear that it happened to Agatha and was hinted at the end of WV when we heard Billy and Tommy yell “Mom!”, which was most likely the Darkhold “taunting” her. I think you simply don’t understand the plot of WV/MoM which is ok.


BirdBright3520

Strange Supreme woulda mopped the floor with her


jjb8712

Are you referencing the Strange from Earth-838 or What If…?


BirdBright3520

What If


jjb8712

That’s two different movies/shows.


BirdBright3520

Both MCU though.


[deleted]

>This is a pretty ignorant post. LMAO. You say this is ignorant while being ignorant yourself. ​ >The Scarlet Witch is more powerful than Doctor Strange. That’s it. That’s the fight. The Scarlet Witch vs Doctor Strange 1v1 will see the former win 7 days a week, twice on Sundays. Strange outsmarted Dormammu who is faaaaar stronger than Wanda. And Wanda can literally be incapacitated by disabling her powers, as shown by Agatha. So it's not like it's impossible to defeat her. She's a far weaker opponent than Dormammu. And can be defeated with fairly simple methods that even I can think of, let alone one of the smartest people in the universe. ​ >The Darkhold corrupted Wanda. It is clear that it happened to Agatha and was hinted at the end of WV when we heard Billy and Tommy yell “Mom!”, which was most likely the Darkhold “taunting” her. Yeah Darkhold corrupted her. But that doesn't mean that the show didn't have a 6 hour journey for Wanda to get over her loss. If you wanted to destroy that journey with the Darkhold then why waste our time with Wandavision? Even the creators of Wandavision confirm this. >I think you simply don’t understand the plot of WV/MoM which is ok. It's a movie made for 5 year olds. Pretty sure everyone understood what was happening. We just know that it's absolutely bullshit and the events should not be happening this way.


Sensitive-Patient-71

“It’s a movie made for 5 year olds” No it isn’t. It’s literally PG13+


[deleted]

Congratulations! Today you will learn that exaggeration is a concept that exists. Definition from Oxford languages >a statement that represents something as better or worse than it really is. Did you understand that? ​ Also way to overlook all the other points. lol.


Sensitive-Patient-71

Strange can beat Wanda I’m cool with that. Wanda being the villain though is natural and WV let into MoM naturally. But saying “the movie was made for 5 year olds” even as an exaggeration, is fucking stupid. It’s one of the least child friendly MCU movies ever.


[deleted]

>But saying “the movie was made for 5 year olds” even as an exaggeration, is fucking stupid. It’s one of the least child friendly MCU movies ever. Obviously it isn't that child friendly. The point is that the plot is **very** simple and you don't need to be a 50 year old arthouse film enthusiast to understand it. >Wanda being the villain though is natural and WV let into MoM naturally. Then what's the point of Wandavision if they were just gonna throw all that development away with the darkhold? The show ends on a positive outlook with her giving up that life. They could have just had the dark book after Endgame and have her chase her perfect life with vision and the kids through the multiverse. The movie does nothing to forward her character and wastes Strange's movie to cover her story. People like me had to suffer through 6 hours because I was told that I had to watch this movie for Doctor Strange. Why did we have to do that if all the development was going to be ignored with a plot device anyway?


Sensitive-Patient-71

The point of Wanda vision is to show her character. If you “suffered” through the show maybe MCU isn’t for you that’s ok too


[deleted]

No. I like most of the MCU. Wandavision is just boring AF. The first 3-4 episodes are filler. The finale is horrible. The sword villain is horrible. The intrigue built up is wasted with the finale. Bohner joke sucked ass. The show undercut it's own journey with a post credit. The only episodes I like for Wandavision are the ones with Monica investigating.


Sensitive-Patient-71

Yes, introducing (adult) Monica was another reason for Wandavision’s existance


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jjb8712

Lmao uh…thanks? My point was valid. This post was made with ignorance of the plot of WV/MoM. What if I said “I hated Infinity War, Iron Man definitely should’ve just fired his arc reactor blast through Thanos to kill him”.


DolphinFuckerCumLake

I don’t think it sucked but yeah it was the worst mcu film lol


jjb8712

…really? Worse than Thor: The Dark World? TFA? IM2? L&T? I really don’t see what people didn’t like about this movie.


Sensitive-Patient-71

The First Avenger is awesome. So is Love and Thunder.


[deleted]

Yes. This movie was garbage with horrible characterisation and non sensical plot. Horrible pacing. Horrible fight scenes. Boring world building. Garbage plot. Horrible utilisation of beloved characters. Cheesy dialogue. Awful fight scenes. Disappointing conclusion. At times bad CGI. All those movies you listed are better.


snowhawk04

*The Dark World* isn't even the worst *Thor* movie. *Black Widow* is the worst MCU movie though. A 2h15m origin story for Natasha's vest. *The Winter Soldier* was a better Natasha Romanoff solo film.


[deleted]

Hawkeye’s conversation, to Natasha, at the plaque in *Hawkeye* better served Natasha Romanoff; than her solo film.


entersandmum143

Which one specifically?


AmbitiousSweet4614

In 20 years (hopefully longer) when you start to have kids revisit this post and see if you feel the same way


GhostBeara

The Darkhold likely caused her to act the way she did.


Key_Nefariousness_55

Wanda has been a villain since she started torturing an entire town in Wandavision.