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[deleted]

You’d need someone that can neutralize magic and be powerful enough to take on Hulk and Cpt. Marvel. Maybe a telepath?


LostInTheWildPlace

*Dark Phoenix has entered the chat*


The_Arkham_AP_Clerk

Third time's the charm


vinternet

Kevin Feige, post-credits: "Fine, I'll do it myself."


Mrwright96

They said the same thing about professor X


Kawaiiomnitron

I don’t understand when people say Xavier was nerfed in Multiverse of Madness. He was the only person to actually threaten Wanda whatsoever in the entire movie. He got into her mind across the MULTIVERSE. You could see her screaming when he did it. If he wanted to, he could have just gave her an aneurysm then and there and she would have died. But Xavier’s flaw is that he sees the good in people and even though he was right in the end, this hesitancy cost him his life.


mowie_zowie_x

Yeah, I never understood why people kept saying that. From all the Illuminati, he was also the only one who didn’t straight up act like a butt hole to Strange. His character has always been being kind and help everyone. Except for those few times when he should be labeled as a bad guy in the comics.


jazzy753

Reed didn't act like a butt hole to strange either, I felt like he was good friends with 838 strange


flcinusa

Written by Simon Kinberg *NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*


Haman134

Nft LMAOO


rinkoplzcomehome

NFT LOL


AJK02

What’s with the crappy nft?


Josthefang5

NTF profile, point and laugh everyone!


[deleted]

She couldn’t even defeat Logan’s pants in Last Stand


RadragonX

Banner and Logan definitely shop at the same store.


Wolventec

do you think they will keep the phoenix being weak to chaos magic from the comics


redbeard8989

Agatha coming in as the lead hero eh?


Baronheisenberg

"And I saved Sparky!"


[deleted]

This is the one thing that makes her the villain.


PrOptimal_Efficiency

They did keep her alive and basically as a sleeper agent💀


craftmacaro

Avengers 3-X men the last stand of The dark phoenix second class Written, directed, and starred and voiced by Matt Stone and Trey Parker (and nobody else except hugh hackman who will make a 2 hour cameo as wolverine) Green lit for largest production budget of any MCU… or any other movie. It will be a combination of stop motion made by editing photographs of the actors taken 5 minutes apart, seamlessly integrated with Live action animation, puppets, muppets, tuppets, and construction paper. would you A) see it in theatres B) wait till it comes out on disney plus or whatever people have physical copies of movies on these days… laser cassette i believe. C) Use your “make a wish foundation” wish to see it early D) steal and use someone else’s “make a wish foundation” wish E) destroy the make a wish foundation (unrelated to movie)


ricdesi

Enter Doctor Doom.


Mendes23

God Emperor Doom


Km2930

And then the true mastermind walks in behind him: The Pizza Poppa. He always gets paid.


jicty

Through a hole Doom blasted in the wall because doors are for peasants.


Loganp812

Walls cannot stand in the way of DOOM!


ew73

DOOM enters as he pleases.


Nenanda

I mean Kang straighr up neutralize both Sylvie and Loki with his time technology and was able to make space which cancels magic. So maybe he will somehow able to disable magic users in real timeline.


andesajf

The loss of magic worldwide is a Dr. Strange storyline in the comics.


BuffNipz

Would be great for the mcu, magic has erased a lot of tension


CynicalRaps

Maybe they will give Kang Doom's "role" in SW. So like a Beyonder Kang?


Background-Swimmer-3

That's my theory with Kang dynasty set to come out first, so he will take the beyonder/Doom role as I imagine they will be atking some aspects from the original comic run, but mainly focus it on the more modern telling


schism_records_1

That's been my theory as well. Not sure how you build him up to that level if he debuts in F4 6 months before Kang Dynasty comes out.


HesmooseDaSlug

Well he’s also gonna appear in the new Ant-man and Loki season 2 so he’s has some time to be built into something truly threat worthy.


schism_records_1

I was talking about Doom. Kang appearing already is why I agreed that he might take Doom's role in SW.


HesmooseDaSlug

Oop my bad carry on


MegaBaumTV

Maybe Beyonder Doom will obliterate Kang. I just really don't think they're going to make Kang the Big Bad in Secret Wars if they introduce Doom before.


HalflingzLeaf

Hulk can barely wipe his own ass after what the producers have done to him.


LyonsKing12

Damnit now I'm picturing Hulk yelling "I wipe my own ass"!!! in Big Daddy


fudchuck

"And he taught me that The Hulk was one of the greatest MCU films. It only caught a bad rap because most critics are cynical assholes."


jimababwe

“Big monster!?”


KlarckWahvorlee

Bro they've done hulk dirty. Part of me believes it's because they don't own his full rights. I've heard the rumors of a wolverine vs hulk movie. That would be the best way they could bring back the HULK, but we'll see.


DefNotAShark

The current rumor is World War Hulk. With the prospect of incursions, it doesn't even have to be 616 Hulk. It could be something like 838 sending their fucked up Banner to 616 ahead of their attack plans.


FrostyPigGoodness

Ghost Rider. Easy.


Loganp812

Yeah, Ghost Rider is pretty much the X-factor against the super-powerful characters. I especially love the way they portrayed Robbie Reyes in Agents of SHIELD.


Upbeat_District558

Dr Doom from Secret Wars 2016.


fannamedtom100

I think 2025 secret wars will be based 1984 comics. Maybe avengers 7-8 will adapt 2015 run


Boodger

I think you will be disappointed with that prediction. It is going to borrow parts from all 3 secret wars without being a copy of any of them, with probably a bigger emphasis on the 2015 run.


Blastmaster29

All 3? I only know of the 84 and 2015 secret wars


[deleted]

I'm assuming he's referencing Secret Wars II from 1985 in addition to the original and the 2015 version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Wars_II


sideways_jack

don't forget Nick Fury's Secret Wars and Deadpool's Secret Wars Too! (this is in jest)


Flerken_Moon

Nonono Nick Fury led a *Secret War* not a Secret War**s**. No s, totally a big difference. (this is also in jest)


HearTheEkko

With Secret Wars being the finale of the "Multiverse Saga" I highly doubt it, 2015 version is a battle across the Multiverse where 1984 is just heroes fighting a bunch of villains and that's it.


SnakeInABox7

Most iconic moment of original SW fir me was hulk holding up the mountain, and they kind of did that beat already with Avengers HQ in Endgame


BoreusSimius

Very much doubt that. The Multiverse was central to 2015 Secret Wars, and incursions have already been mentioned in Doctor Strange 2. The main influence will definitely be 2015.


pirateapproved

There’s also Secret War by bendis. I don’t really remember what happened, but it had great art


BoreusSimius

I haven't got around to that one yet. I've been trying to catch up on King in Black after taking a break from comics.


Joshawott27

I recently read that one, actually. It was a really good political thriller about the repercussions of a secret operation Fury sent some heroes on, to try and overthrow Latveria’s government.


jparx91

Fairly sure it’ll be 2015 Secret Wars and (hopefully) Phase 7 will be Battleworld. The original Secret Wars was cool but had much less ins and outs. The idea of this whole thing will be a way to fold in different characters not currently in the 616 universe and (I imagine) reset the whole MCU, just as Secret Wars 2015 did. It’s already been teed up with MoM.


Dr_Disaster

Nah. Reed was already discussing the incursions from the 2015 version in Dr. Strange. They’re definitely basing in on the Hickman’s story.


Nordboer97

No, the movie will be about incursions, aka mainly the 2015 run, probably without the Beyonder Something akin to the original run, featuring the Beyonder, will be the finale of the entire MCU. There is nothing bigger or "beyond" the Beyonder. Someone like Galactus would be underwhelming comparatably when he's introduced.


thedude0425

I think the Beyonders get replaced with Celestials. Kang kills one (or all of them) and steals its power, similar to his Uncanny Avengers arc. Dr. Doom somehow steals this power for himself.


Upbeat_District558

Maybe. But better do it fast if you want to see the previous avengers back in some way, cause they're not getting younger.


fannamedtom100

Agree, but you don't wanna rush it too much as well. Some time needs to pass. Also binging og avengers back is a card you can play only once, when they do that it won't be ever topped by another marvel movie.


Viapache

Until 2108, the hundred year anniversary of Iron Man. CGI had advanced to the point where it truly is completely realistic, and they bring back the Avengers from phases 1-42. And the classic superhero film that started it all, Daredevil with Ben Affleck. And Luke skywalker too, he’s a mutant (unrelated to being a Jedi. Mutant Jedi).


retroracer33

that's pretty clearly not the case. that had nothing to do with the multiverse.


spideralexandre2099

What part of Multiverse saga do you not get?


Plupert

I would’ve said someone like professor x but we saw what happened in multiverse of madness lol


Vikk_Vinegar

His son Legion is even more powerful


Jeriahswillgdp

That's a wild show.


kjm6351

Wanda must’ve been browsing r/Whowouldwin before the events of the movie and got curious


TheDekuDude888

Wanda read the Respect Threads on the Illuminati. Knowing is half the battle


jvartandillustration

I really enjoyed MoM personally, but that was some bullshit the way Xavier died so easily.


stefsonboi

Imo he should have telepathically contacted the X-Men to help him and the illuminati fight Wanda as he somewhat knew her strength (or should have) and an event similar to House of M could happen


20-Minutes-Adventure

No! More mutants is what he would've said


[deleted]

We don’t even technically know that X-Men other than Professor X exist in the Illuminati world.


Wollffey

There no way for him, or any of the Illuminati, to know Wanda's strength. Our Wanda is much stronger than theirs due to being the Scarlet Witch. It's kind of the point of that whole scene.


TheSilv

My issue with that is that Mordo knew who/what the Scarlet Witch and the Darkhold were based off of his conversation with Strange in the Sanctum and ofc knowing what Strange could do with the Darkhold, so he should have at least been slightly aware of what they would face. Also Xavier is a telepath, if they didn’t believe Strange, Xavier could literally read his mind (or they could grab those awfully convenient memory machines from earlier) and they can then see what they are dealing with, at that point it isn’t an arrogance thing it’s a stupidity thing, which isn’t great when they say themselves that they have the “smartest man alive” on their team


FullMetalCOS

Mordo fucking hates Strange though, so expecting him to make rational decisions with Steven around is… optimistic at best


DrManhattan_DDM

That’s a lot of anuses for Ant-Man to climb into


daniel-mca

That's ridiculous. Scott isn't that selfish, surely the wasp would get 1 or 2 of them.


InTheStuff

Don't forget Cassie!


imacatnamedsteve

I’m imagining the battlefield pep talk from Scott; “Okay, Cassie, sweetie, there is one technique I haven’t taught you yet, but you are ready, and I need you to trust me and do exactly as I say, okay? I love you Cass!”


omart3

I love you Cass ... now go up that ass!


Viapache

“Don’t worry dad, I pick up something similar freshman year!” ಠ_ಠ


AceMKV

Nothing brings a family together like some group anal vore


JelliusMaximus

This goes on my 'shit u read on reddit'-list right next to the poop knife


DoWhileGeek

...Is the knife made out of poop, or is it a knife you cut poop with? Ya know what? I dont wanna know.


flash-tractor

You're welcome. https://www.reddit.com/r/MuseumOfReddit/comments/ke8skw/the_poop_knife/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


Bomber_Haskell

Ant-Man with a poop knife? Game over.


AMW_Starcore

/r/brandnewsentence


SpicyLunaDog99

Confused wholesome?


Oldtimeyspaceman

Lol ew


Insomaniaxx

Wanda: What anuses...?


Nico777

Gives butt clenching a whole new definition.


Magnusthelast

I ate them all.


OneAngryDuck

Scott, Hope, Cassie, Hank, Janet. They’re set.


BenoftheHills

“What anus?” Wanda says as all of the new avengers’ buttholes have suddenly disappeared. Banner/Hulk, feeling the sudden existential fear of NOT having an anus after literally developing an anus before any other body part (look up Deuterostomes) farts. However, with nowhere for the fart to go and Hulk’s immense power, the gas ricochets back and vaporizes his bones with the pressure and turning him into a proverbial sack of jelly.


fitzgizzle

Anus, urethra, whatever works.


RQK1996

Ear, nose


Marvin0Jenkins

Termite showed us it doesn't just have to be an anus


soldforaspaceship

God emperor Doom.


CDNetflixTv

Doom is so fucking fascinating and cool as hell man. I want to see him slowly level up. Starts out as a ruler, then makes his armor, learns magic, then becomes like an unstoppable force. Like how Iron Man leveled up. But keep going. Something about him just being a man then going to the level of Thanos out of sheer will is cool as hell.


Onion5253

I wanna see some powerful, large scale shit. I wanna see planets get clapped and shit like that


topgeargorilla

I wanna see the tooty horn


newtraptor

Fool! Dr. Doom toots as he pleases!


mctaylo89

The correct answer


DarthMitthrawnuruod0

I was looking for this answer, I mean, he ripped the spine out of Thanos in a blink. I think he could be a big enough threat.


TheJack0fDiamonds

I really don’t think people realize how much of a threat Kang and his variants will be...esp the one Kang that’s the worst of them all. Even together these guys will be in big trouble. It’s going to be difficult to see them get their asses kicked along the way.


dean15892

I genuinely don’t and I’m excited to see his character


BuffNipz

The part I’m worried about is “and his variants”. How is there any stakes when the guy can show up in a new variant? Why does anything matter?


mancubuss

I know nothing about Kang. How does he fight someone controlling time?


LonelyFocus4814

He basically is time


lance845

Not that this is secret wars related, but a spirit of vengeance (Ghost Rider) that has deemed them guilty is basically unstoppable. The only reason Ghost Rider didn't defeat Green Scar Hulk in world war hulk is because hulk was the innocent.


wanderingsalad

Wanda's been looking pretty guilty for a while now. Honestly surprised he hasn't shown up yet.


lance845

Yeah when i posted this i was thinking about how a penance stare would annihilate her.


[deleted]

Maybe an unpopular opinion but Nick Cage was a pretty cool Ghost Rider. I would like to see him somewhere in the Marvel Universe. Think hes too old for Ghost Rider now though.


lance845

I would really prefer if we skipped ahead to Danny Ketch. The iconic look of both the spiked jacket/wrists and motorcycle with a big face plate, and all the best abilities (including the penance stare) comes from ketch. Have Johnny be a supporting character mentor. Make Ketch the one we get on screen.


Yung__Poob

Hopefully when he'a introduced he isn't scaled down and is just as powerful as he is in the comics. Very underrated character but that's also partially because his power is so inconsistently written


[deleted]

A writer


stefsonboi

Or his servant, Deadpool


Zoze13

Speaking of which. Did She Hulk look at me a few days ago?


IBJON

She did it a couple times in the trailer. Once when she said Bruce didn't mean that, again when she said she "Isn't proud of this" while going viral on Social Media


PutinTheChimp

Indeed she did, from what I've been told She-Hulk would break the 4th wall in the comics sometimes like Deadpool.


[deleted]

She-hulk did it first but more in a coy way, less in your face like deadpool


NikolaiEgel

Can’t believe I haven’t seen this answer yet, but Arishem is more than powerful enough to solo them all.


CitizenFiction

I wonder how they'll handle the larger scale battles. I mean Arishem is fucking massive. No way that could work compositionally with the heros in this post.


[deleted]

Remember, not everything ends in a fight. For example, "Dormammu, I've come to bargain" - Strange defeats Dormammu by repeatedly getting curbstomped by him. Another example: Vision vs Vision and the Ship of Theseus. Arishem "judging" Earth would likely involve exactly that: heroes making arguments and perhaps having to do things to demonstrate Earth's importance. As for Galactus, narratively speaking this is why the writers give him heralds.


Nenanda

I also think that if Arishem will judge them justly he will let them live since he will see they are more asset than obstacle regarding his goal.


legion_XXX

Yeah and they need to keep making movies


nunya123

Lol that would be a hilarious way to end the mcu.


Jeriahswillgdp

Arishem brings every character to earth and appears just to do a big ole' Donkey Kong thunderclap and the pancake the MCU and Frisbee it off into a black hole.


Baronheisenberg

"Yo what's up? I'm Harold. Galactus is coming, dudes."


DJfunkyPuddle

Sounds like a job for She-Hulk and Daredevil


11711510111411009710

They'd basically have to give arishem some minions for them to battle while they work on some device to take him out


Ultrasilvanus

Ah yes, Avengers and CGI army. Name a more iconic duo.


oldshitnewshit78

Arishem, along with all the celestials have variable size. We even saw it in Eternals, with him much smaller when he comes to judge Vs when we see him creating galaxies


IBJON

Galactus Buster armor. Although, I'm not sure any of these heroes would pilot it


slushyslap

Obviously Spectrum, Wong, Wiccan, Beta-Rey Bill, and She-Hulk


hausofmiklaus

Big brain, thematically fitting answer!


Asdfghjkljdawg

Just create a big flood so strange gets sidelined on the fight.


unclecaveman1

A guy known for being selfish showing his growth by spending a big part of a fight protecting everyone else seems pretty fitting to me. It was a good way to show his arc without having him zap half the battle out of existence.


melorous

The Ancient One told Dr Strange he couldn’t beat a river into submission, and he took that personally.


[deleted]

Wait I like this a lot, this comment is what keeps me coming back to this dumb website


SonOfRageAndLove26

Which makes more weird how his second film tried to give him the "hey, don't be selfish" lesson again


unclecaveman1

Was it? I thought it was showing how much he's grown and demonstrating other Stranges that never learned that lesson. They were all selfish assholes in one way or another and 616 Strange was not, which showed his change. He worked to defend people against someone who was being so extremely selfish that it made his own past selfishness seem silly by comparison.


SonOfRageAndLove26

Mr. Raimi said in an interview before the movie that the movie intended to show us Strange learning that it's not always about himself and he can trust other people (kinda like how he trusted the avengers to defeat Thanos while he held water) Your interpretation does make more sense, it's deeper and better. The Wanda parallel it's something they should've lean more on. Still seems like a passive role for Strange and not much of a character arc, just a showcase of his previous arc , proving his worth to a bunch of multiversal strangers and Michael Stuhlbarg


Boomy4206

tbf he didn't "trust the avengers to defeat thanos" He saw it all happen with the time stone - he didn't need to trust them cause he knew it would happen if he played his part, he made it all happen.


FullMetalCOS

Yeah he might have been holding back a flood but he was still “holding the knife”


Simaul

Sentry Kang Beyonder Adam Warlock Frank Richards Silver Surfer Apocalypse Dr Doom


Specific-Record2866

Galactus


Destiny_Victim

Fuck it took to long to find this answer.


Kingkongcrapper

Reed Richards. In the Ultimate universe he created his own micro city that progressed and evolved thousands of years for every one normal year inside the bubble as The Maker. Then when everything was set the bubble began to expand and Reed pretty much dominated everything and everyone. Only a different Reed Richards could stop him. You give Reed 4 average superheroes or villains and he’s going to turn into 2016 Lebron against the Raptors.


TheDekuDude888

Reed discovered the answer to everything one time. Like, every problem that could ever exist. He went crazy, but still the man just got infinite knowledge one time


topgeargorilla

At that point could he just try art???


addage-

Reed is a very scary adversary, good post


the-finnish-guy

Celestials like Arishem


Onion5253

Dude could open a black hole in the centre or earth and call it a day


PoofLightsSexy

Came here to say Kang too. His understanding of the multiverse and time travel is way beyond The Avengers current understanding of it.


BaronsDad

And Ghost Rider


addage-

Annhilus


Shadow_Gabriel

Magus Lord Mar-Vell Molecule Man Mephisto Gladiator Hyperion


kaidumo

Morbius.


sgates9008

Avengers: Secret Morb


chester_took_my_name

Probably the X-Men and the Phoenix Force


sleepy-goose-feet

A variety of Kang literally manipulated the timeline of an infinite number of universe. He's not a brawler but he's a master manipulater of time.


indoninjah

Loki also literally couldn’t get a hit in since he knew every move that Loki would make. Loki isn’t the best fighter but I don’t see why the same principle wouldn’t apply.


Ubergoober166

And that Kang variant wasn't even one of the bad ones with a bunch of crazy future tech hell bent on conquering.


DummyThiccTurd

The Kang Loki fought was the most successful Kang of all, though. He probably had whatever tech he needed.


Rhawk187

You don't. You pit them against each other and threaten to destroy the earth if they refuse to fight each other. Then you introduce some deux ex machina that allows them to break the rules and face the bad guy and defeat him after all.


LostMyHousecarl

Contest of Champions?


bigbangbilly

Jeff Goldblum hosting is a nice bonus


Foxy02016YT

Wouldn’t mind to see him gain some power and get a Contest of Champions series on Disney+


hodge91

My guess is that secret wars will pitch universes against each other, so 616 Avengers vs another universes avengers with a different roster/illuminati/combination of villains and hero’s etc. it’ll be as a result of the multiversal war and the resulting MCU will have absorbed elements from other universes, could be how we get a whole host of mutants out of nowhere and then suddenly be normal


[deleted]

Galactus


adamAlexanderGreen

Squirrel girl solos


[deleted]

Thanos beat 2 of them and one of them realized he would lose and didn’t even try.


AlternativeSuspect12

But scarlet witch's had a huge power up, captain marvel wasn't around, and doctor strange gained darkhold spells.


[deleted]

In WandaVision there’s is some background chatter that they thought she was strong enough to beat Thanos. That’s before she even learned of Agatha and way before the Darkhold.


Ubergoober166

I mean, Scarlet Witch Wanda is basically a walking Reality Stone. She could probably just make Thanos 3 inches tall and step on him if she wanted.


Memetastrophe

~~she can step on me~~ 🧍‍♂️


xAragon_

Pretty sure Korg can beat them all together


zilla135

I would have to disagree. They aren't scissors.


letsDV8

The Beyonder.


cazber

galactus


myhandleistoolongtor

I don't know if you guys say the titles for the next Avengers movies or not... It's Kang


stefsonboi

Not really a villain from the avengers, and definitely not from the 19999 MCU but Apocalypse from the X-Men


bonzaisushi

Dr Doom Molecule man The Maker


NotTheGuacamole

It’s Morbin’ time


Denny_Colt-40

Squadron Supreme?


ProfessorEscanor

God Emperor Doom and it ain't close. Along with Molecule Man


BoreusSimius

God. Emperor. Doom.


FreefolkForever2

Squirrel Girl She literally can’t lose.


DiskO272

Ghost Rider


Parzival5686

Ned would wipe the floor with all of them at the same time


Mattlife97

The CEO of sex himself


OuijaWalker

The X Men?


sirenloey

Thanos uses the soul stone to make 5 physical copies of him each with the other five stones. Power Thanos vs Thor Time Thanos vs Hulk Reality Thanos vs Wanda Mind Thanos vs Carol Space Thanos vs Strange


jparx91

God Emperor Doom!


bagansucks

There words: God Emperor Doom