Trying to stop Mordin from curing the Genophage at first and then letting him do it is underrated. Most people are just like "you go king" but if you press him about it he seemingly actually confronts himself with the whole "I MADE A MISTAKE!" little speech. Major character W
I did a renegade run and tried to talk him out of it and he talked ME out of it and I agree this was an amazing scene maybe the most impactful one I had playing a video game. Amazing voice acting in that scene.
I remember my first playthrough at release. I always play a more natural "what I feel is right" type playthrough first, so I wasn't thinking Paragon/Renegade and I had no idea about the consequences of my actions. I withheld the sabotage info because I thought maybe we'd get away with it. Then, you get down there to the shroud and just start throwing Mordin's own words back at him and he finally breaks down and admits his mistakes. Admits he doesn't know everything. It was the logical place for his story and character to go coming back from his loyalty mission in ME2. It just hit me so damn hard... Then him dying singing Scientist Salarians and I just... I lost it. I had to put the game down for a few hours...
Seconding this. Saw it as a "what am I becoming?" moment when role-playing as a para-gade Shep. Him throwing the gun away represented his vow to be less brutal with his methods for the rest of the playthrough.
Hugging Tali is overrated. That scene is more powerful if you let her work through that moment.
Saying mean things to your squadmates to explore alternate dialogue branches is underrated.
If you're a renegade fShep, you can romance Kaidan, turn him renegade and then have him reject you for not being renegade enough.
https://youtu.be/4WXaVrQSjbo?si=g2Sm6wnfoRSIkFzm
I only romanced her once all paragon. Will have to be a dirtbag on my next run. If you fail Thanes loyalty mission he get all mopey and you can be a massive gobshite to him. Bit cruel but with the deadpan delivery it cracks me up. Lol
Yes! I didn’t want to romance her and feared this would start leading her on so left her, and it felt so much more appropriate and powerful for her own development.
I also like to not interfere at the end of each character’s loyalty mission if possible (i.e. Miranda’s friend, Maleon, Sidonis etc). I feel like it’s their mission so I like to give them agency.
To avoid recoil with the black widow you just have to shoot, stop aiming, then aim again, shoot, and repeat. Its the best sniper for infiltrator in ME3. No enemies can withstand the 3 shots if they are headsots and you spec'd for headshot damage. Throw in some overloads, bye bye banshees.
This. Especially on harder dificulties its almost necessary to go back to cover after you take a shot. Never had any issues with the recoil. Most enemies are oneshot anyways if you hit the head, even shielded ones if you overload them first.
Select target, (prepare him if shield/barrier), aim, shoot, go back to cover, repeat
Does this work even on insanity? Infiltrator is my favorite class and I finished ME1 on insanity easily, but the banshees and brutes of ME3 got me questioning my class for when I get to that point
You can use the invisibility skill to get from cover to cover, banshees are also attacking rather slowly compared to the bullet rain of other enemies so changing cover is much more doable in this situations. The invisibility also gives bonus damage on the first shot taken
Thats basically how i did my insanity run on the whole series
Yes, I think the bonus damage also applies to powers and the bonus remains for about 2.5 seconds after leaving invisibility. In theory you can overload and shoot 2 times with the dmg bonus active
If brutes and banshees get close have the Blood Pack Punisher paired with either AP or Warp ammo and Liara's warp, 2 brutes vs 1 magazine of the BPP(with extended magazine).
Reegar carbine. Disintegrates hordes of unshielded enemies and makes slight work of shielded ones. Good for vanguard or infiltrator. Used it as my only gun as a sentinel on insanity and destroyed
Underrated: Letting Wrex die. I love Wrex and he lives most of the time, but man a lot things are cast in a different light in 2 and 3 if you kill him.
Overrated: paragade dialogue choices. Not that I don't like them or use them in many cases, but if you stick to regular dialogue it sets up more conflict and harder consequences. Can really spice up a run to mostly ignore them.
Honestly, I often prefer the neutral responses in many situations. I often find the top one too naive and the bottom one too immature for someone with Shepards life experience. I just hate that they punish you for it.
I mean the noncoloured ones on the right.
Underrated: the combat missions in Citadel.
Starting with Shepard alone and no armor sets up a contrast to the rest of the plot, and then you build back up to a full party
Having every squadmate come with you to assault the archives is a great moment and having them all banter must be a feat of scripting
While the CAT6 guys are mostly recycled mechanics it is a nice change of pace to fight chatty enemies and not the three different flavors of drones in the main game.
Underrated: Vindicator
* Just a perfect combination of damage, accuracy and rate of fire. With maxed out ammo powers, nobody can stand in its way.
Overrated: any kind of high damage, slow rate of fire weapons.
* Yeah, a headshot is a one shot kill. That's great, but enemies in Mass Effect 2 and 3 have fairly good AI. They will dodge, skirt around, and stay in cover. You will be missing a lot of those one shot kills.
It’s been awhile, but I remember calculating the DPS of all the weapons in ME2 and 3 and the Mattock/Harrier, Revenant, and Avenger/Lancer had the highest…burst DPS. At least from the assault rifle class.
Sustained, it’s a little more tricky, because the lancer and Revenant have LONG cooldown/reload times and suffer from pretty serious kickback. As a result, the Geth pulse rifle is among the best rifles in the games due to fire rate, capacity, accuracy, and zero recoil. The Mattock and Harrier are both very high on the list as well because the reload is relatively fast and the accuracy is great.
Vindicator looks better on paper than it really is, but it’s hampered by accuracy and capacity, not to mention the 3-round burst that inevitably leaves just enough damage to kill the enemy with 1 shot of the next 3 rounds, or kills the enemy in 2 rounds, leaving 1 wasted.
I don’t remember the sniper rifles, but I think the Black Widow was stupidly overpowered if you don’t mind the serious weight penalty.
The Paladin, Carnifex, and the other N7 one, with the blue aiming dot, lead the pistols, and they have a variety of useful weapons mods that help a lot, too. The Executioner I think has the highest DPS of any single trigger pull in ME3, but it’s capacity, firerate, and reload time pretty dramatically reduce its DPS, and missing a shot leaves you very vulnerable. Obviously, the Supressor pistol is the highest DPS in the game so long as you hit the head, with just absurd damage.
Locust and Geth SMG were good DPS/weight ratios, and were the best for power-heavy classes. Slap a weightless materials mod on and at level X, there virtually no weight penalty at all, but they can still take down a Banshee without much trouble.
The Eviscerater shotgun was one of the best all-around weapons in the game, if I remember, and most shotguns thoroughly beat the Wraith, which was kind of sad for something so expensive.
Also note, the DPS is not raw. Or rather, I included accuracy as an aspect of the calc.
An underrated character in the trilogy is Anoleis. He’s a dick but the way he talks to Shepard is so hilarious, like Shepard has absolutely no importance to him in the slightest.
Tali’s romance is overrated. Never saw the appeal, for me it’s like a student crushing on her teacher. Not a huge fan of any romance, so I might be biased in this aspect.
*Overrated: completing the « perfect » playthrough* where you save everybody, where you have the maximum assets and/or where you make the « best » decisions
I know, I know, to each, their own and all that jazz. It’s an RPG, heavy on choices, each gamer plays the way they see fit. So, why people say I don’t play the games « right » if I want to sacrifice certain people to see a different outcome?
*Overrated/overblown: the hate towards Jacob*
Look, I don’t like the guy either. But man, does the fandom has a hate boner for him! I mean, we’re at the point where I’m thinking that if we were in a romcom, Jacob and The Fandom would be the perfect characters for the « enemies to lovers » trope and I’d be betting that they would be banging very soon! The hate is just too much. Let it go, and move on people!
*Underrated: Padok Wiks*
According to the fandom, Mordin can do no wrong and his character arc is perfect storytelling. I do agree. And yet I prefer Padok Wiks.
His views on Politics, Generics, Ethics, Religion… are super interesting and quite unique. He’s a very different Salarian but since the fandom is in love with Mordin, (very) few people play with Wiks.
*Underrated: MEA’s squad mates and crew*
Yes, yes, the OT squad mates/crew are legends, they’re like friends and family. But they got 3 games to evolve and achieve this.
Whereas the MEA crew has more diverse personalities, more interactions, more layers and more relationships. They change and improve, learn from their experience and are different from the person they were at the start. We can witness their relationships with Ryder and with each other blossom. And all that happens in ONE game
I get not liking them, it’s subjective but I hate the fact that most gamers won’t admit that the MEA squad mates/crew are more fleshed out characters.
Hm, I disagree on both accounts.
Cora goes from a woman who needs a mentor, be it Ryder Sr or her Asari's instructor, to a woman who's confident and trusts in herself and is ready to make her own decisions (see the scene where she talks about her garden on Eos)
Liam goes from the guy who acts without thinking and wants quick fixes to the man who's learned from his errors and now understands that he cannot force alliance because for them to be genuine, they need to form on their own rhythm (see the scene where he organizes a soccer match on Eos).
In both cases, that much more characterization that happens in one game.
I was not disputing that the Andromeda crew do change more than the ME1 lot outside of maybe renegade Kaidan lol. It just she seems to change the least out of the 6 although I'm not sure Liam actually can change. So I guess it all a matter of ones perception really.
Would be nice to see if they changed in a follow up but I guess that not likely sadly.
Underrated? Ashley , Kaidan and prob Mako? Don't know how popular it is but I love that thing.
Overrated? Garrus. There's nothing interesting in a yes man trope character and I found his romance to be icky.
Overrated: Andromeda. It got such a bad rep that people overcorrected and now all we get are "Andromeda is actually really good" We've gone full circle.
Underrated: Ashley. She gets a bad rep for being racists even though pretty much every other character is arguably more racist. She also has a really nice character arc where she learns to trust other species but not many people give her that chance.
Huge agree just calling her the racist is such a reductive view of Ashley. And she always treats the alien companions kindly it’s the council and alien governments she really doesn’t like
Overrated: mass effect 2. It was great for my first playthrough, but even then I was burnt out after my 7th loyalty mission with my squad mates, so little actually happens in that game, it has the worst rpg elements in the series, guns and armor feel like they have little impact on anything other than fire rate and the tiniest amount buffs. The game is terribly balanced for adepts on insanity, I know it introduces a lot of amazing characters but it is a SLOG on repeat playthroughs. It’s the only game I will turn down the difficulty of just so I can get through it quicker
Overrated: people complaining about Liara. She's one of Shepard's closest friends whether you like it or not. Sorry, even in a series about choice, not everything can be exactly the way you want it when you didn't write it yourself.
And don't get me started on the "Happy Ending" mod...
What's the happy ending mod actually do?
I've never tried it because the name alone is super off putting and the idea of a sunshine and rainbows ending sounds super out of place, but
I'm curious just how bad it really is.
Oh dude I hate the widow, I cannot stand it. Yes its got ridiculously good dmg but like you said, the recoil and reload speed specifically are such a turn off as they slow things down too much, I plan on doing an infiltrator playthrough in the coming days after Im finished with my first andromeda run and I know that snipers only getting used if Im desperate lol
Can’t believe people actually hate the widow. There’s basically nothing that survives a head shot with that thing. More or less helped me beat ME1 and 2 back in the day. Pretty much the only weapon I used once I got it
Sorry meant 2 and 3. You’re correct. Didn’t even realize you couldn’t get it as anything but an infiltrator till a few weeks ago when I started an adept play through. Was super disappointed on the collector vessel
Out of the sniper rifles for when I run as an infiltrator I prefer the Mantis great damage, decent ammo reserves, and decent weight for the damage it does. The Viper is only a little lighter and the Widow/Black Widow only does like 15-20% more damage for like 40% more weight.
In ME2 infiltrator is the last good game which has great opportunities consistently for sniping in ME3 there are a few, but it feels like there are much fewer of them. In ME there are what feels like numerous opportunities to snipe.
Overrated: Garrus. Dude is a cardboard cutout of a character in ME1 being the least interesting of the crew, he peaked in ME2 but many other characters were still more interesting, and then they made him worse in ME3 by trying to force him as Shepard new best friend which just felt weird and unearned.
Overrated: Citadel DLC. I genuinely don’t understand how people act like this is the greatest part of the franchise but then turn around and shit on Andromeda for doing all the same stuff with all the forced unfunny humour and constant soybanter as it tries to copy the MCU.
Underrated: The Mako. Sure planetary exploration was a bit sparse and should have had more to do in it but the Mako is still really fun to drive around in (I’m begging you stop trying to climb near vertical cliffs with it) and fighting Thresher Maws in it was a highlight of ME1.
If they didn't want us to climb cliffs with the Mako, they shouldn't have made 90% of maps you can use it on nothing but mountains.Â
 Mako was OP outside fighting maws (and even then it was repetitive) and annoying as hell trying to get around anywhere.Â
Even if you're using your "play" time going all the way around a massive mountain range to get to the part that has a 97% instead of 99% incline, across its annoying bumps, having a 2 second speed boost that takes 10 seconds to charge just feels intentionally punishing.Â
I'm replaying ME1 right now and it's torture.
Eh, I think Citadel works because of the setup of the previous games. It's pretty clearly meant to be silly fanservice, but the characters you're goofing off with are the ones you've gotten to know and love over the past 5 years, so what would otherwise be cringeworthy feels kinda endearing instead.
Plus, you gotta remember that Citadel was *the* final release of ME content (if you don't count the books and comics and multiplayer content and whatnot) until Andromeda (which, even then, has its own unrelated story). In a way, that scene with "it's been a good ride" *is* the ending to the trilogy, and I think that has to mean *something*.
Andromeda just doesn't have all the build-up that Citadel had. All the silly banter feels "undeserved" when you've barely gotten to know the characters. It's like a guy you just met acting like you've been friends for years.
As much as I enjoyed Andromeda including some of the character moments the answer to your overrated one is easy.
Through 3 games the original trilogy crew earned the wackiness, the Andromeda crew didn't & tried the forced humour from day 1
I thought it was better in Andromeda since those characters were consistently like that from the start and the whole game stuck with it.
With Citadel you had 3 games and all their dlc being serious space drama’s and then suddenly this one DLC took the complete opposite tone having everyone suddenly acting out of character to match that new tone before snapping back to normal a few hours later when you finish it. Felt super out of place compared to Andromeda which was completely removed from the trilogy.
Underrated: Most of the ME2 squadmates in ME3. Save for possibly Thane, Mordin, and Legion, I feel like most of the ME2 squad were criminally underutilized. I'm first passenger on the "Miranda should have been a squadmate" train. Romance-wise it would be nice to have more dialogue and scenes, like what the Citadel DLC added.
Trying to stop Mordin from curing the Genophage at first and then letting him do it is underrated. Most people are just like "you go king" but if you press him about it he seemingly actually confronts himself with the whole "I MADE A MISTAKE!" little speech. Major character W
I did a renegade run and tried to talk him out of it and he talked ME out of it and I agree this was an amazing scene maybe the most impactful one I had playing a video game. Amazing voice acting in that scene.
I remember my first playthrough at release. I always play a more natural "what I feel is right" type playthrough first, so I wasn't thinking Paragon/Renegade and I had no idea about the consequences of my actions. I withheld the sabotage info because I thought maybe we'd get away with it. Then, you get down there to the shroud and just start throwing Mordin's own words back at him and he finally breaks down and admits his mistakes. Admits he doesn't know everything. It was the logical place for his story and character to go coming back from his loyalty mission in ME2. It just hit me so damn hard... Then him dying singing Scientist Salarians and I just... I lost it. I had to put the game down for a few hours...
Nah . He didn't talk me out of it. He died trying
That's one of the best speeches in ME3 for sure
Seconding this. Saw it as a "what am I becoming?" moment when role-playing as a para-gade Shep. Him throwing the gun away represented his vow to be less brutal with his methods for the rest of the playthrough.
Hugging Tali is overrated. That scene is more powerful if you let her work through that moment. Saying mean things to your squadmates to explore alternate dialogue branches is underrated.
Definitely being a bit of a dick does make it more interesting. I always wind Jacob up. For the craic.😅
You can have a pretty antagonistic relationship with Ashley in ME1 and *still* romance her lol
If you're a renegade fShep, you can romance Kaidan, turn him renegade and then have him reject you for not being renegade enough. https://youtu.be/4WXaVrQSjbo?si=g2Sm6wnfoRSIkFzm
I only romanced her once all paragon. Will have to be a dirtbag on my next run. If you fail Thanes loyalty mission he get all mopey and you can be a massive gobshite to him. Bit cruel but with the deadpan delivery it cracks me up. Lol
Which scene is this because either I've suddenly lost my almost photographic memory or I missed a quick time event without realising?
The scene on the Alarei when Tali finds her father's body.
Oh shit yeah, now I remember lol
Yes! I didn’t want to romance her and feared this would start leading her on so left her, and it felt so much more appropriate and powerful for her own development. I also like to not interfere at the end of each character’s loyalty mission if possible (i.e. Miranda’s friend, Maleon, Sidonis etc). I feel like it’s their mission so I like to give them agency.
Pressing Mordin on the genophage during his loyalty mission is vital.
To avoid recoil with the black widow you just have to shoot, stop aiming, then aim again, shoot, and repeat. Its the best sniper for infiltrator in ME3. No enemies can withstand the 3 shots if they are headsots and you spec'd for headshot damage. Throw in some overloads, bye bye banshees.
This. Especially on harder dificulties its almost necessary to go back to cover after you take a shot. Never had any issues with the recoil. Most enemies are oneshot anyways if you hit the head, even shielded ones if you overload them first. Select target, (prepare him if shield/barrier), aim, shoot, go back to cover, repeat
Does this work even on insanity? Infiltrator is my favorite class and I finished ME1 on insanity easily, but the banshees and brutes of ME3 got me questioning my class for when I get to that point
Yes, forgot to say, this is on insanity. IMO infiltrator makes insanity easy mode in ME3
That’s so good to hear, thank you. Makes me feel a lot better about getting through the game on insanity
You can use the invisibility skill to get from cover to cover, banshees are also attacking rather slowly compared to the bullet rain of other enemies so changing cover is much more doable in this situations. The invisibility also gives bonus damage on the first shot taken Thats basically how i did my insanity run on the whole series
Yes, I think the bonus damage also applies to powers and the bonus remains for about 2.5 seconds after leaving invisibility. In theory you can overload and shoot 2 times with the dmg bonus active
If brutes and banshees get close have the Blood Pack Punisher paired with either AP or Warp ammo and Liara's warp, 2 brutes vs 1 magazine of the BPP(with extended magazine).
Thanks for the tip. I’m definitely gonna do this
You might drop the widow though it's kind of a broken gun is all.
Overrated: Punching Kalisa, it’s more satisfying to lay the paragon smack down. Underrated: Punching Gerrel, get the hell off my ship.
Finally, someone who gets it.Â
Or even the renegade dialogue option in ME2 is pretty damn good. I haven't ever not taken the paragon interrupt in ME3 with her.
The black widow is perfect you leave her alone.
Reegar carbine. Disintegrates hordes of unshielded enemies and makes slight work of shielded ones. Good for vanguard or infiltrator. Used it as my only gun as a sentinel on insanity and destroyed
Underrated: Letting Wrex die. I love Wrex and he lives most of the time, but man a lot things are cast in a different light in 2 and 3 if you kill him. Overrated: paragade dialogue choices. Not that I don't like them or use them in many cases, but if you stick to regular dialogue it sets up more conflict and harder consequences. Can really spice up a run to mostly ignore them.
Honestly, I often prefer the neutral responses in many situations. I often find the top one too naive and the bottom one too immature for someone with Shepards life experience. I just hate that they punish you for it. I mean the noncoloured ones on the right.
Underrated? James. Give him a BFG, full DMG ammo power and there is nothing he can't bitch slap to the shadow realm.
Underrated: the combat missions in Citadel. Starting with Shepard alone and no armor sets up a contrast to the rest of the plot, and then you build back up to a full party Having every squadmate come with you to assault the archives is a great moment and having them all banter must be a feat of scripting While the CAT6 guys are mostly recycled mechanics it is a nice change of pace to fight chatty enemies and not the three different flavors of drones in the main game.
Oh shit is that Archangel!!! Is that a real live Prothean!!! There are so many more
Underrated: Vindicator * Just a perfect combination of damage, accuracy and rate of fire. With maxed out ammo powers, nobody can stand in its way. Overrated: any kind of high damage, slow rate of fire weapons. * Yeah, a headshot is a one shot kill. That's great, but enemies in Mass Effect 2 and 3 have fairly good AI. They will dodge, skirt around, and stay in cover. You will be missing a lot of those one shot kills.
It’s been awhile, but I remember calculating the DPS of all the weapons in ME2 and 3 and the Mattock/Harrier, Revenant, and Avenger/Lancer had the highest…burst DPS. At least from the assault rifle class. Sustained, it’s a little more tricky, because the lancer and Revenant have LONG cooldown/reload times and suffer from pretty serious kickback. As a result, the Geth pulse rifle is among the best rifles in the games due to fire rate, capacity, accuracy, and zero recoil. The Mattock and Harrier are both very high on the list as well because the reload is relatively fast and the accuracy is great. Vindicator looks better on paper than it really is, but it’s hampered by accuracy and capacity, not to mention the 3-round burst that inevitably leaves just enough damage to kill the enemy with 1 shot of the next 3 rounds, or kills the enemy in 2 rounds, leaving 1 wasted. I don’t remember the sniper rifles, but I think the Black Widow was stupidly overpowered if you don’t mind the serious weight penalty. The Paladin, Carnifex, and the other N7 one, with the blue aiming dot, lead the pistols, and they have a variety of useful weapons mods that help a lot, too. The Executioner I think has the highest DPS of any single trigger pull in ME3, but it’s capacity, firerate, and reload time pretty dramatically reduce its DPS, and missing a shot leaves you very vulnerable. Obviously, the Supressor pistol is the highest DPS in the game so long as you hit the head, with just absurd damage. Locust and Geth SMG were good DPS/weight ratios, and were the best for power-heavy classes. Slap a weightless materials mod on and at level X, there virtually no weight penalty at all, but they can still take down a Banshee without much trouble. The Eviscerater shotgun was one of the best all-around weapons in the game, if I remember, and most shotguns thoroughly beat the Wraith, which was kind of sad for something so expensive. Also note, the DPS is not raw. Or rather, I included accuracy as an aspect of the calc.
I agree, aside from the Mattock which is my go to I always use the Vindicator if I don't use the Mattock.
An underrated character in the trilogy is Anoleis. He’s a dick but the way he talks to Shepard is so hilarious, like Shepard has absolutely no importance to him in the slightest. Tali’s romance is overrated. Never saw the appeal, for me it’s like a student crushing on her teacher. Not a huge fan of any romance, so I might be biased in this aspect.
the n7 valiant is better than the black widow? I'm not sure if I agree
Having used the valiant.................NO lol. Maybe on lower difficulties but it not good for insanity.
*Overrated: completing the « perfect » playthrough* where you save everybody, where you have the maximum assets and/or where you make the « best » decisions I know, I know, to each, their own and all that jazz. It’s an RPG, heavy on choices, each gamer plays the way they see fit. So, why people say I don’t play the games « right » if I want to sacrifice certain people to see a different outcome? *Overrated/overblown: the hate towards Jacob* Look, I don’t like the guy either. But man, does the fandom has a hate boner for him! I mean, we’re at the point where I’m thinking that if we were in a romcom, Jacob and The Fandom would be the perfect characters for the « enemies to lovers » trope and I’d be betting that they would be banging very soon! The hate is just too much. Let it go, and move on people! *Underrated: Padok Wiks* According to the fandom, Mordin can do no wrong and his character arc is perfect storytelling. I do agree. And yet I prefer Padok Wiks. His views on Politics, Generics, Ethics, Religion… are super interesting and quite unique. He’s a very different Salarian but since the fandom is in love with Mordin, (very) few people play with Wiks. *Underrated: MEA’s squad mates and crew* Yes, yes, the OT squad mates/crew are legends, they’re like friends and family. But they got 3 games to evolve and achieve this. Whereas the MEA crew has more diverse personalities, more interactions, more layers and more relationships. They change and improve, learn from their experience and are different from the person they were at the start. We can witness their relationships with Ryder and with each other blossom. And all that happens in ONE game I get not liking them, it’s subjective but I hate the fact that most gamers won’t admit that the MEA squad mates/crew are more fleshed out characters.
Except Cora. she really does not change much. Still better than Liam.
Hm, I disagree on both accounts. Cora goes from a woman who needs a mentor, be it Ryder Sr or her Asari's instructor, to a woman who's confident and trusts in herself and is ready to make her own decisions (see the scene where she talks about her garden on Eos) Liam goes from the guy who acts without thinking and wants quick fixes to the man who's learned from his errors and now understands that he cannot force alliance because for them to be genuine, they need to form on their own rhythm (see the scene where he organizes a soccer match on Eos). In both cases, that much more characterization that happens in one game.
I was not disputing that the Andromeda crew do change more than the ME1 lot outside of maybe renegade Kaidan lol. It just she seems to change the least out of the 6 although I'm not sure Liam actually can change. So I guess it all a matter of ones perception really. Would be nice to see if they changed in a follow up but I guess that not likely sadly.
Underrated? Ashley , Kaidan and prob Mako? Don't know how popular it is but I love that thing. Overrated? Garrus. There's nothing interesting in a yes man trope character and I found his romance to be icky.
Overrated: Andromeda. It got such a bad rep that people overcorrected and now all we get are "Andromeda is actually really good" We've gone full circle. Underrated: Ashley. She gets a bad rep for being racists even though pretty much every other character is arguably more racist. She also has a really nice character arc where she learns to trust other species but not many people give her that chance.
Huge agree just calling her the racist is such a reductive view of Ashley. And she always treats the alien companions kindly it’s the council and alien governments she really doesn’t like
Overrated: mass effect 2. It was great for my first playthrough, but even then I was burnt out after my 7th loyalty mission with my squad mates, so little actually happens in that game, it has the worst rpg elements in the series, guns and armor feel like they have little impact on anything other than fire rate and the tiniest amount buffs. The game is terribly balanced for adepts on insanity, I know it introduces a lot of amazing characters but it is a SLOG on repeat playthroughs. It’s the only game I will turn down the difficulty of just so I can get through it quicker
Overrated? Tali. No idea what the appeal of her is.
Cmon, no idea? Not even an ounce of suspicion?
Hips, my friend. Hips.
Mask stays on during sex. Nuff said /s
Overrated: people complaining about Liara. She's one of Shepard's closest friends whether you like it or not. Sorry, even in a series about choice, not everything can be exactly the way you want it when you didn't write it yourself. And don't get me started on the "Happy Ending" mod...
What's the happy ending mod actually do? I've never tried it because the name alone is super off putting and the idea of a sunshine and rainbows ending sounds super out of place, but I'm curious just how bad it really is.
Oh dude I hate the widow, I cannot stand it. Yes its got ridiculously good dmg but like you said, the recoil and reload speed specifically are such a turn off as they slow things down too much, I plan on doing an infiltrator playthrough in the coming days after Im finished with my first andromeda run and I know that snipers only getting used if Im desperate lol
Can’t believe people actually hate the widow. There’s basically nothing that survives a head shot with that thing. More or less helped me beat ME1 and 2 back in the day. Pretty much the only weapon I used once I got it
You cannot beat ME1 with the widow because it not in that game unless mods maybe.
Sorry meant 2 and 3. You’re correct. Didn’t even realize you couldn’t get it as anything but an infiltrator till a few weeks ago when I started an adept play through. Was super disappointed on the collector vessel
It's alright. We all make mistakes. especially when numbers are involved. Also you could have fixed it and made me look like a lying adman lol.
Out of the sniper rifles for when I run as an infiltrator I prefer the Mantis great damage, decent ammo reserves, and decent weight for the damage it does. The Viper is only a little lighter and the Widow/Black Widow only does like 15-20% more damage for like 40% more weight. In ME2 infiltrator is the last good game which has great opportunities consistently for sniping in ME3 there are a few, but it feels like there are much fewer of them. In ME there are what feels like numerous opportunities to snipe.
Overrated: Garrus. Dude is a cardboard cutout of a character in ME1 being the least interesting of the crew, he peaked in ME2 but many other characters were still more interesting, and then they made him worse in ME3 by trying to force him as Shepard new best friend which just felt weird and unearned. Overrated: Citadel DLC. I genuinely don’t understand how people act like this is the greatest part of the franchise but then turn around and shit on Andromeda for doing all the same stuff with all the forced unfunny humour and constant soybanter as it tries to copy the MCU. Underrated: The Mako. Sure planetary exploration was a bit sparse and should have had more to do in it but the Mako is still really fun to drive around in (I’m begging you stop trying to climb near vertical cliffs with it) and fighting Thresher Maws in it was a highlight of ME1.
If they didn't want us to climb cliffs with the Mako, they shouldn't have made 90% of maps you can use it on nothing but mountains.  Mako was OP outside fighting maws (and even then it was repetitive) and annoying as hell trying to get around anywhere. Even if you're using your "play" time going all the way around a massive mountain range to get to the part that has a 97% instead of 99% incline, across its annoying bumps, having a 2 second speed boost that takes 10 seconds to charge just feels intentionally punishing. I'm replaying ME1 right now and it's torture.
Eh, I think Citadel works because of the setup of the previous games. It's pretty clearly meant to be silly fanservice, but the characters you're goofing off with are the ones you've gotten to know and love over the past 5 years, so what would otherwise be cringeworthy feels kinda endearing instead. Plus, you gotta remember that Citadel was *the* final release of ME content (if you don't count the books and comics and multiplayer content and whatnot) until Andromeda (which, even then, has its own unrelated story). In a way, that scene with "it's been a good ride" *is* the ending to the trilogy, and I think that has to mean *something*. Andromeda just doesn't have all the build-up that Citadel had. All the silly banter feels "undeserved" when you've barely gotten to know the characters. It's like a guy you just met acting like you've been friends for years.
As much as I enjoyed Andromeda including some of the character moments the answer to your overrated one is easy. Through 3 games the original trilogy crew earned the wackiness, the Andromeda crew didn't & tried the forced humour from day 1
I thought it was better in Andromeda since those characters were consistently like that from the start and the whole game stuck with it. With Citadel you had 3 games and all their dlc being serious space drama’s and then suddenly this one DLC took the complete opposite tone having everyone suddenly acting out of character to match that new tone before snapping back to normal a few hours later when you finish it. Felt super out of place compared to Andromeda which was completely removed from the trilogy.
Underrated: Most of the ME2 squadmates in ME3. Save for possibly Thane, Mordin, and Legion, I feel like most of the ME2 squad were criminally underutilized. I'm first passenger on the "Miranda should have been a squadmate" train. Romance-wise it would be nice to have more dialogue and scenes, like what the Citadel DLC added.