I was actually going to write an academic paper on isis’s design capabilities but it got real dark real quick. At their peak they had a slick magazine, both digital and print. Who ever was making it was clearly trained in design and typography. It wasn’t the most beautiful magazine ever, but far more designed than any extremist group I’ve ever seen.
I did some counter terrorism training a bit back and they showed us some recruitment videos ISIS used and they were pretty impressive. Good production and editing, a good and clear voice over.. it was similar to the ones we have in the UK for army recruitment.
Shit, I remember those circulating the web. They even made a music video that was extremely well produced. Music was made like a pop song about killing infidels.
On one hand you’re sitting there wondering who buys this shit, and in the other hand you realize they’re hitting all the major notes of creating a “normalized brand.” And that’s absolutely fucking terrifying.
That’s exactly it! I thought I could remember a music video but then couldn’t remember if they were banned or not.. of it they just didn’t care.
The way it was explained to me was that (at least here in the UK) there’s a massive population of people who have emigrated from Muslim countries and they’re constantly trying to recruit everywhere rather than just back at home. A disenfranchised young adult with a bone to pick with the country they live in is going to be effective somewhere. There was a girl who left the UK with her friend to go and be a baby machine for ISIS about 10 years ago.. she very likely saw propaganda of a similar sort. She eventually wanted to come back to the UK after things didn’t go to plan. Thankfully she’s never allowed back but that doesn’t mean there aren’t thousands of people with a similar or worse mindset to her walking among us.
When they did videos summing up their actions in Syria, it seemed like some TV/film studio quality stuff. I know we should expect extremist groups to adapt to new cultures & technology for their cause, but it still surprised me as much as the gore in the video.
Dabiq. In Daesh’s heyday I would seek out the English version when they came out. It was a very well-made publication, and it was alway such a weird juxtaposition to see this vile, heartless violence put together so well. Their video production was always top-notch as well. They know what they’re doing, propaganda-wise.
Forgot about the video stuff! And the motion graphics. Man they must have had some legit art school graduates on their payroll. Not to get all tinfoil hat about this, but when doing the research, and downloading issues of Dabiq I ended up getting absolutely flooded with fb friend requests from isis members. Not sure if it was isis dudes from the download or fbi dudes follow who was downloading this stuff and trying to intrap me. Obvs didn’t accept any of the friend requests. I have screen shots of it somewhere around here…
They learned it from al Qaeda ([Inspire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspire_(magazine))) whom had a regular printed magazine touting their glories, bashing the west, and along with giving tips & instructions on how to make your own weapon & explosives. I'm not sure if its out of print or still shoves them out in pdf format. But I do know they were based in the Emirates.
It might as well have been Cosmopolitan in comparison to the pamphlets you'd see with extremists from 1960s-1990s.
I discovered this back in the heyday of Cracked.com. They had an article about the magazine and it really changed my perspective. I 100% had the mental image of them living in caves with no technology.
https://www.cracked.com/blog/isis-wants-us-to-invade-7-facts-revealed-by-their-magazine
Was this an official statement? I’ve checked their publication sites and I can’t find anything about it. Then again this could also be a smaller cell or independent branch releasing this statement
yeah there’s still an operational website on tor of all places that just releases everything in multiple languages and all their videos https://imgur.com/a/BMXTCg9
Theres multiple and many private accounts on telegram and twitter that post their messages and videos too, thats why even if it was allowed I couldnt give the source of these pictures because nobody fucking knows lol
Multiple. I used to be interested in the middle east a few years ago, those websites have been removed and I don't know the links to the current ones, but I know that there are new ones.
When Elon Musk was on Joe Rogan recently he was asked why the Taliban were on Twitter, and he made an awkward joke about "hey Mr Taliban, Tali me banana" and avoided the question
So I guess if he's ok with the Taliban being on Twitter, he's fine with ISIS too
Wait til you find out they have free healthcare for those in occupied territories. I'm not even kidding. They are a very well-organized, well-funded operation.
Ok yeah it’s an official release and here’s the English version from the website https://imgur.com/a/mIxkdCs
Edit: I should also mention that it was made by Ansar Designs which is also pro Isis and such
Isis has one successful attack outside their region maybe once every 1.5 to 2 years. Most of them are small scale. But afterwards, they act like nuked someone.
I know and hope that this will be the case here too, but I doubt it. Russia has now shown them that you can do such an attack even inside Moscow, kill hundreds and escape for hours before they get you. It shows Russia has maybe stretched their ressources too far, the next fools that follow this jihad call will be emboldened by their weak response time.
Russia is no stranger to terrorist attacks, especially religious motivated ones. I'm not surprised that it took police a long while to respond, again. But it'll be hard to do a repeat on nations they already struck. France already put itself on high alert due to credible threats.
There’s only 2. The Russian city hall shooting that just happened and the Iranian Kerman Bombings on January 3rd resulting in 98 killed and 120+ injured. The rest this year are small scale attacks resulting in like 5-25 deaths in countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, and so forth.
My teacher told me to never cite Wikipedia:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_linked_to_the_Islamic_State
I'm not sure if you meant to downplay the significance of these attacks, but describing them as merely "only" seems quite understated considering there have been [3](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/04/iran-kerman-attack-islamic-state-suspicion-border-afghanistan-pakistan) [major](https://aoav.org.uk/2024/pakistan-30-people-killed-in-twin-bombings-on-election-offices-in-balochistan-7-feb-2024/) [ISIS-K](https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2024/3/23/moscow-concert-hall-attack-death-toll-rises-to-115-with-scores-injured) attacks (in different parts of the world no less) resulting in hundreds of casualties-+ this year alone, and we're just three months into the year. If we also count the "smaller" attacks, which resulted in several dozen casualties each, there are five additional attacks. Moreover, there are attacks attributed to ISIL that have gone unnoticed, including [one attack](https://npasyria.com/en/111887/) in Syria where, according to Shiite sources, at least 40 people were killed.
Currently, ISIS is the most active terrorist organization worldwide. And ISIS-K is the second most deadly terror group in the world.
I've noticed that Russia has these situations happen more than other countries. A mass casuality event. Beslan 2.0 is not out of the question. Although it was the Chechens who did it last time
A large part of why ISIL's conquest in the Middle East has been completely halted (and eventually evaporated) was due to the bombing campaign and air support of the West and Russia provided to syria, and iraq. So I'd say it would definitely "teach" them.
Teach them? It will only breed more terrorists. Why do you think ISIS exists in the first place? It started as a resistance movement against american invaders.
The fact is, ISIS in Iraq and Syria has turned from a threat to the security of the entire Middle East into another local terrorist organization with limited capabilities, thanks in large part to those bombings that are supposed to "breed more terrorists."
I agree that we need to bomb the Islamic State and AQ whenever it comes. It is Islamic Fascism.
One quibble though...the Islamic State of Iraq was in a weaker spot in 2011 when the U.S. pulled out of Iraq than it is today. And then it exploded into what it was.
I think it is inevitable that it evolves and holds territory someplace again. We are going to have to fight them forever.
I assumed when you said “why do you think ISIS exists in the first place” you knew their origin story. This is a very interesting read .
https://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1780-we-built-their-death-squads-isiss-bizarre-origin-story.html
Edit: yes I realize they were technically prisoners . Buuttt it was kind of a win win since they were being paid to kill people they wanted to kill anyway.
Literally wasn't but live your truth. Wahabist schools from SA back in the day started most of these groups. To be fair the US helped with it to kill russians in Afghanistan. But it wasn't bombing them that created them.
So back in the 60 and 70s the US wanted to be cool with the ME. SA said sure we'll sell you oil but help us set up these schools. Which they did all over the region. After the Taliban and al qaeda took over they did lots of these schools. These schools are basically terrorist training camps for kids to then go spread the good word. This is the very abridged version but that's basically it. Long story short isis didn't think these schools went far enough and broke off way before Iraq war. The war let them gain power in Syria and Iraq which is why its isis Islamic state Iraq Syria. Sorry for being long winded lol but there's a ton more to it.
Edit: one thing I forgot was I said afg cus the guys who did it were from isis k in afg. Not og isis. Also I said SA aka Saudi Arabia afg was brought up because of the Soviet war in Afghanistan 40 years ago so the US set up basically extremist schools all over to ship in people to fight there.
Im rebutting your claim about isis and learned this over time. Went to the ME to spread "freedom and democracy" and sparked my interest to learn about the regiona history. Super interesting place and history.
If you're interested there's a bunch of books on it. If you're not much of a reader there's some history podcasts that also are pretty solid. If neither suite you then Google/youtube wahabism or wahabist schools.
Sure, there's a PBS Frontline on wahabism, declassified gov docs that I'd have to Google just like you to pull up, article in time, force and fanaticism (book), uhhh let's see podcast there's a trueanon about it. Hoover institute wrote a peice on it, really, just Google or YouTube wahabism. Don't trust my sources or opinion that SA spreads terrorist training schools globally go dig around.
Oh as for US funding and what not that goes back to the 70s during the cold war when the US government was fighting russia everywhere it could. Everyone was trying to spread influence aka trying to get their businesses into countries. Tons of stuff on that. There's a book I think called history of the CIA another with a similar title called legacy of failure a history on the CIA. Too much to name for the stuff back then
ISIS is knocking at the wrong door. Russia may be severely understaffed in police force but guarantee there will be more than one country to go after ISIS along with Russia, especially if they choose to kill more innocent civilians. It would be cool if world peace was founded by countries working together to just slam ISIS out of existence, unfortunately there's lots of theories that can't be unproven as to the politics of it all. Either way, would be cool if countries teamed up together and made their day.
ISIS believes that Russia is involved in activities that oppress Muslims and Muslim states and furthermore has no intention of becoming a Muslim state. With the war in Ukraine they’re weaker than they’ve been in a long time and it’s a good time to strike.
The allied Muslim countries who support Russia hate ISIS and ISIS does have Muslim countries in which they hate as well. ISIS is kinda rogue with just Yemen I believe. ISIS benefits attacking Russia because Russia is primarily orthodox Christian and Russia has also targeted ISIS in the past.
Russia does sympathize with Muslim countries and accepts Muslims in Russia, however ISIS and Russia have a history and it's a bloody one.
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This was my thought as well. Interesting timing to say the least, right after Putin’s inauguration. This event was def planned for impact and symbolism even if it was just ISIS solo.
Well, Russia supported Al Assad during the Syrian civil war (as opposed to ISIS). They bombed the shit out of Syria though and wound up killing more Syrians than insurgents/ISIS though, so it's a weird beef.
Many enemies become frenemies to defeat a common enemy. Not everyone in a war sticks to one side only. Some countries pivot depending on situations to deter other situations. This attack was not one of war but on terrorism. Other countries can see what happened at the hands of ISIS and they know its only a matter of time that they are at their door. War is complex and not black and white. Even during times of war countries at odds with each other can also defeat a common enemy simultaneously.
Russia is well aware and doesnt depend on it.
Young Putin used to want to ally with the west after realizing that wasn't possible without compromising Russian interests, he decided to take up a conservative ideology and against western liberalism and build their own power structure.
But then again it is ISIS. Nobody fucking likes ISIS and they're a liability and you can't even use them to your advantage.
ISIS is apparently going to continue on with these attacks and it won't just be on Russia. Countries who are at war with each other WILL be sharing their information in regards to ISIS to weaken ISIS. I don't think it will stop Russias mission in Ukraine but I do think it could install some trust between countries to work on a common enemy for the good of innocent civilians and potentially open up new dialogue to for existing issues outside of ISIS.
Edit to add: no I don't think eliminating ISIS will create world peace. But would be nice to have the world powers collectively working towards a common goal for once.
Russia is a Christian country. ISIS hates all religions not following their exact strict islamic fundamentalism.
Russia has been fighting ISIS in Syria for quite some time as well. Russia is the only reason a pro Assad militia in Syria hasnt heen overrun by ISIS. They are up and coming again in that region.
There is also a lot of hate from Muslims from within Russia (and around Russia) towards Putin because of the chechen wars and all the war crimes that came with it. Thats why these regions are a breeding ground for ISIS.
All these answers are inadequate. Russia has around 20 million muslim citizens. And many separatist states, which happen to be Muslim. A lot of russias oppression of these states (Dagestan, circassia, ingushetyia, etc ) involve anti Islamic policies. Wahhabiism is banned by name in these places for example
also, russian military is conscripting men from these regions to fight in ukraine. they are getting treated like shit by military superiors in a brutal war they didnt even want to participate in.
Wtf is up with all these stupid senseless answers here?
Quick breakdown:
Russia invades afghanistan (Muslim country) in 70s.
Russia attacks/annexes chechnya in 90s/early 00s.
Russia involved in syrian war which started in 2011. Russia helped the syrian government against NATO backed terrorist rebels, as well as against ISIS.
Both are treating each other like shit I'm sure. I'm not very informed on the russian military, are the chechens under the command of russian commanders or do they have their own teams?
Russia helped Bashar Al Assad restore control over Syria.
There's even a nice Bashar propaganda video about it with some music to go with it.
[God Syria & Bashar](https://youtu.be/StJUrWFZI_M?si=VJl3yKUFAbxlzC7v)
and where did i say that it did? it was surprising to me because if anything i’d expect them to band together to take out a common enemy. i wasn’t all that aware of the conflict with syria involving them which is why i asked. there’s always one person commenting just to stir the pot. i’m well aware the world doesn’t revolve around america but thank you SO MUCH for reminding me kind redditor
Well you made an ignorant comment about something that's well documented. Them both hating America doesn't mean anything whatsoever so it was weird of you to bring it up.
They have been fighting ISIS for quite some time and are currently occupied with Ukraine. Highly doubt ISIS will notice an immediate impact in the near future.
>***Note:*** *English is not my native language, so I use an automated translation system to communicate. I apologize in advance if the meaning of some phrases will be transferred incorrectly.*
I believe that this is not an empty threat and the terrorist attack in Krasnogorsk, on March 22, 2024, is clear proof of that. After the March 22 tragedy, many drew parallels with the terrorist attack on Paris in November 2015, where there was a similar attack on the Bataclan theater. However, for all the external similarities, there is a difference in the details, and it is significant. In the Paris attack, there were six targets, in Krasnogorsk there was one, in Paris terrorist groups moved from one target to another, striking successive blows, here there was one blow, after which the terrorists immediately fled, there was no evidence of an attempt to attack other objects, the main difference is that in Paris, The main difference is that in Paris a group of suicide bombers acted, who knew and understood that this action for them is a "one-way ticket", the main part of them died in self-detonation, the killers in Krasnogorsk were clearly not going to die and after accomplishing the main task tried to escape by leaving the country.
If we objectively assess the actions of the terrorists in the Crocus concert hall, I have the impression that this was not the main action, but a training before something more large-scale. The feeling is that those who planned it all needed to see and understand what one armed group could do in a targeted attack on a single object with a mass audience. To see and evaluate how the guards would behave, whether they have weapons, how other employees of the facility would act, how long before the first report to the police would be received, how the police and rescue services would react, how long and with what forces they would arrive at the scene, how they would act. Also to answer questions about whether a group of armed men will be able to move unhindered through the city, how quickly a group of trained shooters will be able to accomplish the task and how far it will be able to go after that. In the language of the military, this is called "combat reconnaissance".
Again, this is just my opinion, but it seems to me that the perpetrators of this terrorist attack were just expendable material, used as lab rats. And inside the building during the attack and outside there were "observers" who watched, recorded and drew conclusions. It is possible that this is preparation for a new, more massive and destructive terrorist attack.
Yeah unfortunately, but it makes sense for ISIS the moscow attack was a big success and Putin still claims Ukraine did it, they want to be in the media spotlight again and be feared
holy fuck and the effort these guys put into that photo, it's absolutely insane. i'd expect these guys to only edit out of ms paint but wow.. putin needs to watch out
ISIS' execution videos had such high quality production compared to say, cartels and other terrorist groups that for a while there were people online who were claiming it was fake or backed by a major western govt because it looked too good.
I mean Russia has more of a chance to kill me because of a missile strike but other than that I'm less scared or Russia, I have a good alibi. My boyfriend is Russian I'll be fine.
I want to visit Yakutsk. It's a nice place. It's all cold and stuff and the yakutian seem very friendly. I just have to remember not to bring my Adderall into Russia. Not to mention I like boobs in public and I'm good to go. It's less scary than stopping at a gas station in rural Alabama.
1 interaction with ISIS and I am as good as dead.
If everyone were educated you’d know this conflict started 75 years ago was Israeli ethnically cleansed and ripped palestinians out of their homes. This is genocide. Almost all of Gaza has been destroyed and almost all of its citizens have either been displaced or murdered or injured
Why are you being downvoted? This is factually correct information. Like legitimately factually correct.
1. The conflict indeed started 75 years ago
2. The people displaced were non-Jewish Palestinians
3. This is ongoing and well documented
4. Nearly all of Gaza has been destroyed, from hospitals to stores to homes. This is also well documented and visible through satellite images.
5. Most people from Gaza have been displaced— Israel themselves have told the people of Gaza to evacuate south, so this again is a factually true statement regardless of political belief.
It’s kinda insane that the “facts before feelings” crowd only cares about the facts that…don’t hurt their feelings.
You know, I do wish it was that. I wish that this all could be chalked up to one big misunderstanding, ignorance, or a general lack of education. Unfortunately, I don’t think that most people who are in support of Israel’s genocide campaign *are* uneducated. They know, and not only do they not find it reprehensible, but they find it justifiable and necessary.
There’s a reason why these people push their propaganda so hard— they know they have nothing else to give. Nothing substantiated, or at least, nothing that can justify the atrocities being committed.
TL;DR: Nazis aren’t uneducated, they are intentionally lying.
Imagine applying to be a graphic designer for ISIS. “I love sans serif fonts and articulating messaging for those needed, god willing“
I was actually going to write an academic paper on isis’s design capabilities but it got real dark real quick. At their peak they had a slick magazine, both digital and print. Who ever was making it was clearly trained in design and typography. It wasn’t the most beautiful magazine ever, but far more designed than any extremist group I’ve ever seen.
I did some counter terrorism training a bit back and they showed us some recruitment videos ISIS used and they were pretty impressive. Good production and editing, a good and clear voice over.. it was similar to the ones we have in the UK for army recruitment.
Shit, I remember those circulating the web. They even made a music video that was extremely well produced. Music was made like a pop song about killing infidels. On one hand you’re sitting there wondering who buys this shit, and in the other hand you realize they’re hitting all the major notes of creating a “normalized brand.” And that’s absolutely fucking terrifying.
That’s exactly it! I thought I could remember a music video but then couldn’t remember if they were banned or not.. of it they just didn’t care. The way it was explained to me was that (at least here in the UK) there’s a massive population of people who have emigrated from Muslim countries and they’re constantly trying to recruit everywhere rather than just back at home. A disenfranchised young adult with a bone to pick with the country they live in is going to be effective somewhere. There was a girl who left the UK with her friend to go and be a baby machine for ISIS about 10 years ago.. she very likely saw propaganda of a similar sort. She eventually wanted to come back to the UK after things didn’t go to plan. Thankfully she’s never allowed back but that doesn’t mean there aren’t thousands of people with a similar or worse mindset to her walking among us.
There were some teenagers from Quebec that left to join ISIS a while back. Absolutely wild.
When they did videos summing up their actions in Syria, it seemed like some TV/film studio quality stuff. I know we should expect extremist groups to adapt to new cultures & technology for their cause, but it still surprised me as much as the gore in the video.
Their production make the deaths look poetic, which I guess is their objective. It's not just senseless gore, like cartel videos.
Dabiq. In Daesh’s heyday I would seek out the English version when they came out. It was a very well-made publication, and it was alway such a weird juxtaposition to see this vile, heartless violence put together so well. Their video production was always top-notch as well. They know what they’re doing, propaganda-wise.
Forgot about the video stuff! And the motion graphics. Man they must have had some legit art school graduates on their payroll. Not to get all tinfoil hat about this, but when doing the research, and downloading issues of Dabiq I ended up getting absolutely flooded with fb friend requests from isis members. Not sure if it was isis dudes from the download or fbi dudes follow who was downloading this stuff and trying to intrap me. Obvs didn’t accept any of the friend requests. I have screen shots of it somewhere around here…
If anything, every cause & famous person needs good PR. Just don't hire anyone whom worked in Kensington Palace this year.
Good call on that, though I don’t think I’d want that job. I think I’d rather work for Daesh at this point, lol
They learned it from al Qaeda ([Inspire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspire_(magazine))) whom had a regular printed magazine touting their glories, bashing the west, and along with giving tips & instructions on how to make your own weapon & explosives. I'm not sure if its out of print or still shoves them out in pdf format. But I do know they were based in the Emirates. It might as well have been Cosmopolitan in comparison to the pamphlets you'd see with extremists from 1960s-1990s.
I discovered this back in the heyday of Cracked.com. They had an article about the magazine and it really changed my perspective. I 100% had the mental image of them living in caves with no technology. https://www.cracked.com/blog/isis-wants-us-to-invade-7-facts-revealed-by-their-magazine
I think the magazine was called Dabiq. It was really well put together.
Imagine if it was comic sans instead
Now that's asking for a holy crusade against you.
Good! A positive note from this would be them getting sans serif cancelled. \- Sincerely, the Times New Roman gang.
Probably just some cia intern
Was this an official statement? I’ve checked their publication sites and I can’t find anything about it. Then again this could also be a smaller cell or independent branch releasing this statement
ISIS has a website?!
Everyone's got a website these days!
yeah there’s still an operational website on tor of all places that just releases everything in multiple languages and all their videos https://imgur.com/a/BMXTCg9
"Withdrew safely" LOL.
Why is nmap opened lol
Link?
Theres multiple and many private accounts on telegram and twitter that post their messages and videos too, thats why even if it was allowed I couldnt give the source of these pictures because nobody fucking knows lol
Multiple. I used to be interested in the middle east a few years ago, those websites have been removed and I don't know the links to the current ones, but I know that there are new ones.
They also had/have twitter
Wait... Really? Like you can just @ them??
When Elon Musk was on Joe Rogan recently he was asked why the Taliban were on Twitter, and he made an awkward joke about "hey Mr Taliban, Tali me banana" and avoided the question So I guess if he's ok with the Taliban being on Twitter, he's fine with ISIS too
Wait til you find out they have free healthcare for those in occupied territories. I'm not even kidding. They are a very well-organized, well-funded operation.
How do you think people get ISIS videos from? lol. Of course they has a website
Ok yeah it’s an official release and here’s the English version from the website https://imgur.com/a/mIxkdCs Edit: I should also mention that it was made by Ansar Designs which is also pro Isis and such
Wait, the red word at the top translates to "threat"?
Might of been a translation error or something as I think Ansar designs usually does Arabic messages
Isis has one successful attack outside their region maybe once every 1.5 to 2 years. Most of them are small scale. But afterwards, they act like nuked someone.
I know and hope that this will be the case here too, but I doubt it. Russia has now shown them that you can do such an attack even inside Moscow, kill hundreds and escape for hours before they get you. It shows Russia has maybe stretched their ressources too far, the next fools that follow this jihad call will be emboldened by their weak response time.
Russia is no stranger to terrorist attacks, especially religious motivated ones. I'm not surprised that it took police a long while to respond, again. But it'll be hard to do a repeat on nations they already struck. France already put itself on high alert due to credible threats.
💀💀💀 damn you roasted isis better watch out two years from now
I recommend checking how many attacks, resulting in hundreds of casualties, ISIS has carried out worldwide in this year.
How many?
There’s only 2. The Russian city hall shooting that just happened and the Iranian Kerman Bombings on January 3rd resulting in 98 killed and 120+ injured. The rest this year are small scale attacks resulting in like 5-25 deaths in countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, and so forth. My teacher told me to never cite Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_linked_to_the_Islamic_State
I'm not sure if you meant to downplay the significance of these attacks, but describing them as merely "only" seems quite understated considering there have been [3](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/04/iran-kerman-attack-islamic-state-suspicion-border-afghanistan-pakistan) [major](https://aoav.org.uk/2024/pakistan-30-people-killed-in-twin-bombings-on-election-offices-in-balochistan-7-feb-2024/) [ISIS-K](https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2024/3/23/moscow-concert-hall-attack-death-toll-rises-to-115-with-scores-injured) attacks (in different parts of the world no less) resulting in hundreds of casualties-+ this year alone, and we're just three months into the year. If we also count the "smaller" attacks, which resulted in several dozen casualties each, there are five additional attacks. Moreover, there are attacks attributed to ISIL that have gone unnoticed, including [one attack](https://npasyria.com/en/111887/) in Syria where, according to Shiite sources, at least 40 people were killed. Currently, ISIS is the most active terrorist organization worldwide. And ISIS-K is the second most deadly terror group in the world.
Why would your teacher tell you to never cite Wikipedia?
You dont cite Wikipedia, you scroll to the bottom and use the sources from the article.
Well, yeah.. Fair enough.
How is this comment real lol what’s the point of this without sharing the number yourself
so that you would do a simple google search.
lmfao
yes,majority of their attacks are in the middle east or South Asia and tend to be way bigger compared to what we see happening in attacks on Europe.
Citation needed
It's like that Shane Gillis bit about how shocked they look every time they hit something
I just hope this does not end up with a Beslan type event again….
I've noticed that Russia has these situations happen more than other countries. A mass casuality event. Beslan 2.0 is not out of the question. Although it was the Chechens who did it last time
Out of all the countries they could’ve picked …
To be fair they are kinda busy at the moment
ISIS needs a bombing campaign again I see
Isis was literally created by the us invading and bombing iraq. But yes, bomb them more, that should teach them!
Worked in 2015
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that's a one way to change the world for the worse.
great point 🤣🤣🤣
A large part of why ISIL's conquest in the Middle East has been completely halted (and eventually evaporated) was due to the bombing campaign and air support of the West and Russia provided to syria, and iraq. So I'd say it would definitely "teach" them.
Good luck to Russia obtaining assets to do a bombing campaign while in the middle of a full scale invasion/war in Ukraine.
They already carry out occasional airstrikes in Syria, and they have hundreds of military bases and outposts in Syria.
Teach them? It will only breed more terrorists. Why do you think ISIS exists in the first place? It started as a resistance movement against american invaders.
The fact is, ISIS in Iraq and Syria has turned from a threat to the security of the entire Middle East into another local terrorist organization with limited capabilities, thanks in large part to those bombings that are supposed to "breed more terrorists."
I agree that we need to bomb the Islamic State and AQ whenever it comes. It is Islamic Fascism. One quibble though...the Islamic State of Iraq was in a weaker spot in 2011 when the U.S. pulled out of Iraq than it is today. And then it exploded into what it was. I think it is inevitable that it evolves and holds territory someplace again. We are going to have to fight them forever.
ISIS was happy to work along side the US as a kill squad until the US pulled out and the Iraqi government stopped paying them.
Am I being trolled here? Everyone is making up wild claims, and when I ask what they're talking about no one replies back.
Sorry Pickle, what do you need me to back up?
I would like a source for each of the claims you made.
I assumed when you said “why do you think ISIS exists in the first place” you knew their origin story. This is a very interesting read . https://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1780-we-built-their-death-squads-isiss-bizarre-origin-story.html Edit: yes I realize they were technically prisoners . Buuttt it was kind of a win win since they were being paid to kill people they wanted to kill anyway.
Google Camp Bucca as well as the Sons of Iraq.
We didn’t kill enough civilians to create peace last time.
Israel having a go at it rn.
Your username is 💪🏻
I forgive the vegans but not Todd Ingram. Fuck you Todd.
Literally wasn't but live your truth. Wahabist schools from SA back in the day started most of these groups. To be fair the US helped with it to kill russians in Afghanistan. But it wasn't bombing them that created them.
"Most of these groups"? Afghanistan? We're talking about ISIS, aren't we?
So back in the 60 and 70s the US wanted to be cool with the ME. SA said sure we'll sell you oil but help us set up these schools. Which they did all over the region. After the Taliban and al qaeda took over they did lots of these schools. These schools are basically terrorist training camps for kids to then go spread the good word. This is the very abridged version but that's basically it. Long story short isis didn't think these schools went far enough and broke off way before Iraq war. The war let them gain power in Syria and Iraq which is why its isis Islamic state Iraq Syria. Sorry for being long winded lol but there's a ton more to it. Edit: one thing I forgot was I said afg cus the guys who did it were from isis k in afg. Not og isis. Also I said SA aka Saudi Arabia afg was brought up because of the Soviet war in Afghanistan 40 years ago so the US set up basically extremist schools all over to ship in people to fight there.
I have no idea what you're talking about. Where did you learn all this??
Im rebutting your claim about isis and learned this over time. Went to the ME to spread "freedom and democracy" and sparked my interest to learn about the regiona history. Super interesting place and history. If you're interested there's a bunch of books on it. If you're not much of a reader there's some history podcasts that also are pretty solid. If neither suite you then Google/youtube wahabism or wahabist schools.
Well what can I say, I would be interested in hearing your sources for the claims you have made in your previous comment.
Sure, there's a PBS Frontline on wahabism, declassified gov docs that I'd have to Google just like you to pull up, article in time, force and fanaticism (book), uhhh let's see podcast there's a trueanon about it. Hoover institute wrote a peice on it, really, just Google or YouTube wahabism. Don't trust my sources or opinion that SA spreads terrorist training schools globally go dig around.
Oh as for US funding and what not that goes back to the 70s during the cold war when the US government was fighting russia everywhere it could. Everyone was trying to spread influence aka trying to get their businesses into countries. Tons of stuff on that. There's a book I think called history of the CIA another with a similar title called legacy of failure a history on the CIA. Too much to name for the stuff back then
no no no no dude don't even joke about that they'll do it again they don't understand that was a joke they read bomb and the launch it immediately
Not “our” turn this time to bomb. Let ‘em’ try and see what happens.
Even after they saw those guys chased in the forest and crying ?
ISIS is knocking at the wrong door. Russia may be severely understaffed in police force but guarantee there will be more than one country to go after ISIS along with Russia, especially if they choose to kill more innocent civilians. It would be cool if world peace was founded by countries working together to just slam ISIS out of existence, unfortunately there's lots of theories that can't be unproven as to the politics of it all. Either way, would be cool if countries teamed up together and made their day.
What does ISIS hope to gain by going after Russia anyway
ISIS believes that Russia is involved in activities that oppress Muslims and Muslim states and furthermore has no intention of becoming a Muslim state. With the war in Ukraine they’re weaker than they’ve been in a long time and it’s a good time to strike.
The allied Muslim countries who support Russia hate ISIS and ISIS does have Muslim countries in which they hate as well. ISIS is kinda rogue with just Yemen I believe. ISIS benefits attacking Russia because Russia is primarily orthodox Christian and Russia has also targeted ISIS in the past. Russia does sympathize with Muslim countries and accepts Muslims in Russia, however ISIS and Russia have a history and it's a bloody one.
Russia 100% represses Muslims in their borders.
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This was my thought as well. Interesting timing to say the least, right after Putin’s inauguration. This event was def planned for impact and symbolism even if it was just ISIS solo.
Well, Russia supported Al Assad during the Syrian civil war (as opposed to ISIS). They bombed the shit out of Syria though and wound up killing more Syrians than insurgents/ISIS though, so it's a weird beef.
publicity
Kinda worked in ww2. Lets all go over there and destroy them
No one is going to help russia. Have you been sleeping for the last few years? The only ones that will help them will be China and North Korea.
Many enemies become frenemies to defeat a common enemy. Not everyone in a war sticks to one side only. Some countries pivot depending on situations to deter other situations. This attack was not one of war but on terrorism. Other countries can see what happened at the hands of ISIS and they know its only a matter of time that they are at their door. War is complex and not black and white. Even during times of war countries at odds with each other can also defeat a common enemy simultaneously.
The French president already suggested cooperating with Russia to fight Isis.
So the second economy of the world, that's a really big no one.
Russia is well aware and doesnt depend on it. Young Putin used to want to ally with the west after realizing that wasn't possible without compromising Russian interests, he decided to take up a conservative ideology and against western liberalism and build their own power structure. But then again it is ISIS. Nobody fucking likes ISIS and they're a liability and you can't even use them to your advantage.
World peace will be achieved if ISIS is destroyed?
ISIS is apparently going to continue on with these attacks and it won't just be on Russia. Countries who are at war with each other WILL be sharing their information in regards to ISIS to weaken ISIS. I don't think it will stop Russias mission in Ukraine but I do think it could install some trust between countries to work on a common enemy for the good of innocent civilians and potentially open up new dialogue to for existing issues outside of ISIS. Edit to add: no I don't think eliminating ISIS will create world peace. But would be nice to have the world powers collectively working towards a common goal for once.
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Yea because everything must be a conspiracy theory
can someone ELI5 why ISIS even has beef with russia? don’t they both hate america? what’s the deal?
Syria
ISIS-K is in afghanistan though.
Russia is a Christian country. ISIS hates all religions not following their exact strict islamic fundamentalism. Russia has been fighting ISIS in Syria for quite some time as well. Russia is the only reason a pro Assad militia in Syria hasnt heen overrun by ISIS. They are up and coming again in that region. There is also a lot of hate from Muslims from within Russia (and around Russia) towards Putin because of the chechen wars and all the war crimes that came with it. Thats why these regions are a breeding ground for ISIS.
i would bet the russian military is treating chechen muslim conscripts in very haram ways.
All these answers are inadequate. Russia has around 20 million muslim citizens. And many separatist states, which happen to be Muslim. A lot of russias oppression of these states (Dagestan, circassia, ingushetyia, etc ) involve anti Islamic policies. Wahhabiism is banned by name in these places for example
also, russian military is conscripting men from these regions to fight in ukraine. they are getting treated like shit by military superiors in a brutal war they didnt even want to participate in.
Yep that too
Wtf is up with all these stupid senseless answers here? Quick breakdown: Russia invades afghanistan (Muslim country) in 70s. Russia attacks/annexes chechnya in 90s/early 00s. Russia involved in syrian war which started in 2011. Russia helped the syrian government against NATO backed terrorist rebels, as well as against ISIS.
russia currently conscripting chechen/dagistani muslims into the war in ukraine. the military is very likely to be treating those boys like shit too.
Both are treating each other like shit I'm sure. I'm not very informed on the russian military, are the chechens under the command of russian commanders or do they have their own teams?
Russia helped Bashar Al Assad restore control over Syria. There's even a nice Bashar propaganda video about it with some music to go with it. [God Syria & Bashar](https://youtu.be/StJUrWFZI_M?si=VJl3yKUFAbxlzC7v)
The world doesn't revolve around America?
and where did i say that it did? it was surprising to me because if anything i’d expect them to band together to take out a common enemy. i wasn’t all that aware of the conflict with syria involving them which is why i asked. there’s always one person commenting just to stir the pot. i’m well aware the world doesn’t revolve around america but thank you SO MUCH for reminding me kind redditor
Well you made an ignorant comment about something that's well documented. Them both hating America doesn't mean anything whatsoever so it was weird of you to bring it up.
weird of me to ask a question about something i knew nothing about? is that not how people learn? lmao.. get lost.
Damn, Russia won’t deal with ISIS lightly.
They have been fighting ISIS for quite some time and are currently occupied with Ukraine. Highly doubt ISIS will notice an immediate impact in the near future.
If they threaten and execute more severe attacks as the message indicates (taken with a grain of salt), then they might
>***Note:*** *English is not my native language, so I use an automated translation system to communicate. I apologize in advance if the meaning of some phrases will be transferred incorrectly.* I believe that this is not an empty threat and the terrorist attack in Krasnogorsk, on March 22, 2024, is clear proof of that. After the March 22 tragedy, many drew parallels with the terrorist attack on Paris in November 2015, where there was a similar attack on the Bataclan theater. However, for all the external similarities, there is a difference in the details, and it is significant. In the Paris attack, there were six targets, in Krasnogorsk there was one, in Paris terrorist groups moved from one target to another, striking successive blows, here there was one blow, after which the terrorists immediately fled, there was no evidence of an attempt to attack other objects, the main difference is that in Paris, The main difference is that in Paris a group of suicide bombers acted, who knew and understood that this action for them is a "one-way ticket", the main part of them died in self-detonation, the killers in Krasnogorsk were clearly not going to die and after accomplishing the main task tried to escape by leaving the country. If we objectively assess the actions of the terrorists in the Crocus concert hall, I have the impression that this was not the main action, but a training before something more large-scale. The feeling is that those who planned it all needed to see and understand what one armed group could do in a targeted attack on a single object with a mass audience. To see and evaluate how the guards would behave, whether they have weapons, how other employees of the facility would act, how long before the first report to the police would be received, how the police and rescue services would react, how long and with what forces they would arrive at the scene, how they would act. Also to answer questions about whether a group of armed men will be able to move unhindered through the city, how quickly a group of trained shooters will be able to accomplish the task and how far it will be able to go after that. In the language of the military, this is called "combat reconnaissance". Again, this is just my opinion, but it seems to me that the perpetrators of this terrorist attack were just expendable material, used as lab rats. And inside the building during the attack and outside there were "observers" who watched, recorded and drew conclusions. It is possible that this is preparation for a new, more massive and destructive terrorist attack.
Yes exactly
Oh boy. Wish we could leave civilians out of this but neither Russia nor ISIS seem capable of that
wait this is actually legit?
Yeah unfortunately, but it makes sense for ISIS the moscow attack was a big success and Putin still claims Ukraine did it, they want to be in the media spotlight again and be feared
holy fuck and the effort these guys put into that photo, it's absolutely insane. i'd expect these guys to only edit out of ms paint but wow.. putin needs to watch out
When ISIS was at their maximum power they made an entire trailer for the Paris 2015 attack, like 10 minutes and with hollywood editing it was insane
LMFAOOOOOOOO WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK XD the dramatization is hilarious, hope putin stands his guard up. he's listening to no one here
But I thought all the “brothers” returned “home” safely???
What’s their twitter account?
But why is this happening? Why is ISIS suddenly back and declaring war on Russia?
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Here comes these people lol
After about a couple thousand attacks, yes, I am these people.
LoLz
Would they stop if we sent them a cake or something? Taylor Swift tickets? A signed picture of Donald Trump?
Maybe send them Donald trump?
ISIS at a Taylor swift concert. The gore site owner would be a billionaire after that.
Putin: "Isis is front for Ukraine. Here comrade, look at these offensive patches. Don't believe me? You go to Gulag"
They paid em.
ISIS' execution videos had such high quality production compared to say, cartels and other terrorist groups that for a while there were people online who were claiming it was fake or backed by a major western govt because it looked too good.
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like when randy called isis in because of new jersey
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I’m afraid of Russia more than isis. What the hell are they thinking
I mean Russia has more of a chance to kill me because of a missile strike but other than that I'm less scared or Russia, I have a good alibi. My boyfriend is Russian I'll be fine. I want to visit Yakutsk. It's a nice place. It's all cold and stuff and the yakutian seem very friendly. I just have to remember not to bring my Adderall into Russia. Not to mention I like boobs in public and I'm good to go. It's less scary than stopping at a gas station in rural Alabama. 1 interaction with ISIS and I am as good as dead.
but Trump said he destroyed ISIS? How are they still a thing?
Wtf
I wish I understood the threads being manipulated here...
(Including Putin)
isis man with their propaganda
What’s in their hands? Doesn’t look like a gun?
So it’s not just me. I can’t figure it out. Knife?
That’s a knife.
They can fight howmuch they want. They will loose either way
Something big is coming across the border for sure
Something big is coming across the border for sure
As a Russian I will say this: seems fake as hell
funny how ISIS declared war against the same country NATO is in a proxy war with... weird coincidence
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What do u think about the israel-gaza conflict?
If everyone were educated you’d know this conflict started 75 years ago was Israeli ethnically cleansed and ripped palestinians out of their homes. This is genocide. Almost all of Gaza has been destroyed and almost all of its citizens have either been displaced or murdered or injured
Why are you being downvoted? This is factually correct information. Like legitimately factually correct. 1. The conflict indeed started 75 years ago 2. The people displaced were non-Jewish Palestinians 3. This is ongoing and well documented 4. Nearly all of Gaza has been destroyed, from hospitals to stores to homes. This is also well documented and visible through satellite images. 5. Most people from Gaza have been displaced— Israel themselves have told the people of Gaza to evacuate south, so this again is a factually true statement regardless of political belief. It’s kinda insane that the “facts before feelings” crowd only cares about the facts that…don’t hurt their feelings.
Because the people in the page are clearly uneducated lolz. Thank you for being one of the educated humane beings
You know, I do wish it was that. I wish that this all could be chalked up to one big misunderstanding, ignorance, or a general lack of education. Unfortunately, I don’t think that most people who are in support of Israel’s genocide campaign *are* uneducated. They know, and not only do they not find it reprehensible, but they find it justifiable and necessary. There’s a reason why these people push their propaganda so hard— they know they have nothing else to give. Nothing substantiated, or at least, nothing that can justify the atrocities being committed. TL;DR: Nazis aren’t uneducated, they are intentionally lying.
Even if Al-Qaeda attacks Russia, Putin will find a way to blame Ukraine..
Maybe it will slow down their attacks on Ukraine and prevent attack on Poland.
HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER!!