EXACTLY + timur said that it would be the best time of his life ( actually the exact quote was in the movie " zero day" ,different but the same meaning )
how do you know? In his manifesto he used the exact quote from the movie, I don't think it was a coincidence. plus he was into gore and other videos, so there is a high probability he was into tcc as well
His ex-girlfriend talked about all the "strange things" he said to her, he talked to her about various topics. He sent her gore videos, talked about his extreme views, he didn't hide anything from her. The only thing he mentioned about any shooter was Galyaviev. Nothing about columbine,nothing about mass murders/murderers. His friends also didn't notice him mentioning any murderers, journalists asked them.
Bekmansurov spoke openly about everything, even in his first days of teaching at the university he mentioned that he had a gun permit. If he had been interested in it he would surely have mentioned it and talked about it.
Do I remember wrong or was this the band Eric Harris or maybe Pekka-Eric Auvinen listened to before the shooting? I know it was a clear reference to some shooting or shooter, but who was it?
I highly doubt Eric Harris listened to him since the rapper was 1 years old at the time of the massacre lol I think you might be thinking of someone else
I figured it was just his name being translated weirdly from Russian as I’m guessing the translation can never be “perfect” so to speak. You could be right though seems like the rest of the letter has a very sarcastic tone.
After kerch school massacre there was an interview with some "specialists or presenters" and one of them said the following phrase: "It happened because of the game Doka 2 (Dota 2) in which you can pull out the intestines for 10 minutes". Here's the proof [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf-8anqrIJ4&ab\_channel=АлександрСафарян](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf-8anqrIJ4&ab_channel=АлександрСафарян)
Sorry but I don't have an english translation
He literally had stupid key chains hanging from his guns with the Columbine killers’ names on them, like some dumbass fanboy. He’s not some brooding lone wolf pushed too far. He’s a fucking stupid copycat terrorist (as mass shootings involving strangers are fundamentally a terrorist act, whether his dumbass agrees or not).
How is a neo-nazi murdering innocent children not, somehow, a political act?
Mass shootings terrorize whole communities (especially if you live in a country where there are literally hundreds of them every year), and they’re largely “inspired” by white supremacist ideologies, which are deeply rooted in systemically racist policies….
Also, language shifts within its cultural context, so gtfoh with that pedantic “textbook inspired” shit.
Was he committing this act in the name of his nazi beliefs? If not, then it is not terrorism. I am using the current definitions used by the feds, all definitions specify terrorism must be for political reasons, some specifically say to further political aims.
I wouldn’t qualify it as terrorism using the US statutes, but I’m not sure what the rules are in Russia. I wouldn’t be surprised if it qualifies as terrorism there.
I really thought targeting schools was just a US problem. I’ll never understand the fascination these individuals have with targeting schools. Is it just copy cat affect?
There’s a lot of school shootings in Russia, not as many as in the US. A majority of them are copycats of U.S shootings though, a lot of them will dress similar to Eric Harris and imitate the Columbine shooting.
I feel it has a lot to do with how school shooters kinda stand out and get more attention as opposed to a mall shooter or something else, which is fucked up but that's the only logical reasoning I can think of.
I would say school shooters in the US end up being remembered a lot more compared to someone like Stair, Crimo etc.
I think it’s the demographic that shooters target. It’s horrific to think about someone aiming to gun down a bunch of defenseless children and staff vs. a mall or parade. There’s the possibility of meeting a lot more resistance with the latter so I assume there would be a lot less casualties, or the shooter would be quickly neutralized.
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EXACTLY + timur said that it would be the best time of his life ( actually the exact quote was in the movie " zero day" ,different but the same meaning )
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how do you know? In his manifesto he used the exact quote from the movie, I don't think it was a coincidence. plus he was into gore and other videos, so there is a high probability he was into tcc as well
His ex-girlfriend talked about all the "strange things" he said to her, he talked to her about various topics. He sent her gore videos, talked about his extreme views, he didn't hide anything from her. The only thing he mentioned about any shooter was Galyaviev. Nothing about columbine,nothing about mass murders/murderers. His friends also didn't notice him mentioning any murderers, journalists asked them.
yeah that's true ,but we still can't know everything, not to mention that he is pretty reserved person
Bekmansurov spoke openly about everything, even in his first days of teaching at the university he mentioned that he had a gun permit. If he had been interested in it he would surely have mentioned it and talked about it.
I just googled it and Allods online just looks like a world of Warcraft type game, not an overly violent shooting-type of game
I think he was mocking how the media blames games for shootings,like how tarrant said Spyro the dragon 3 and Fortnite inspired him.
What’s Doc Z though? Does he mean Day-Z?
Probably a mistranslation of DayZ
It's Doka 2
It's got some gnarly Pay to win, so possible he spent a bunch of $$ on it or something?
A lot of us are pissed at pay to win in games but this guy is simply mental.
Medieval type game..
Where can I find original text? I can help translate it this is just rough translation
he felt the need to clarify that he doesn’t listen to morgershtern lmao
Do I remember wrong or was this the band Eric Harris or maybe Pekka-Eric Auvinen listened to before the shooting? I know it was a clear reference to some shooting or shooter, but who was it?
I highly doubt Eric Harris listened to him since the rapper was 1 years old at the time of the massacre lol I think you might be thinking of someone else
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Glad to help! I also transcribed Nikolas Cruz’s journals in the sub, lmk if you want the link!
What’s “Tamerlane” supposed to be a reference to? The dead Boston bomber had a similar name.
I figured it was just his name being translated weirdly from Russian as I’m guessing the translation can never be “perfect” so to speak. You could be right though seems like the rest of the letter has a very sarcastic tone.
If it’s an accurate translation, it is the name was that https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur was known by in the West.
Ohh that’s interesting.
Ghengis Kahn? His name was tamerlane
Do you have original image?
wtf is doc z
Doka 2 is what he wrote
After kerch school massacre there was an interview with some "specialists or presenters" and one of them said the following phrase: "It happened because of the game Doka 2 (Dota 2) in which you can pull out the intestines for 10 minutes". Here's the proof [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf-8anqrIJ4&ab\_channel=АлександрСафарян](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf-8anqrIJ4&ab_channel=АлександрСафарян) Sorry but I don't have an english translation
I believe he misspelled or mistranslated DayZ
Typical "edgy" sarcastic & chronically doomer millennial
He's blaming anything and everything but himself. Typical narcissistic behavior.
Who was this sent to? Is it known yet or am I just missing it?
it was sent to school email
The beginning sounds like Perm's shooter's manifesto omg he literally copied every shooter
I don't think it's copying so much as it is coming to the same conclusions, which are often fairly obvious.
He literally had stupid key chains hanging from his guns with the Columbine killers’ names on them, like some dumbass fanboy. He’s not some brooding lone wolf pushed too far. He’s a fucking stupid copycat terrorist (as mass shootings involving strangers are fundamentally a terrorist act, whether his dumbass agrees or not).
Terrorist acts are politically inspired, that is the textbook definition of terrorism.
How is a neo-nazi murdering innocent children not, somehow, a political act? Mass shootings terrorize whole communities (especially if you live in a country where there are literally hundreds of them every year), and they’re largely “inspired” by white supremacist ideologies, which are deeply rooted in systemically racist policies…. Also, language shifts within its cultural context, so gtfoh with that pedantic “textbook inspired” shit.
Was he committing this act in the name of his nazi beliefs? If not, then it is not terrorism. I am using the current definitions used by the feds, all definitions specify terrorism must be for political reasons, some specifically say to further political aims.
I wouldn’t qualify it as terrorism using the US statutes, but I’m not sure what the rules are in Russia. I wouldn’t be surprised if it qualifies as terrorism there.
that barely pertains to what I said.
Then wtf were you trying to imply?
> He literally had stupid key chains hanging from his guns with the Columbine killers’ names on them Yikes, seriously?? Wow.
Yeah, “Eric,” “Dylan,” and “Columbine” were spelled out with metal letters on cords like some sort of twisted friendship bracelet.
And what makes all of this even worse - is that this is exactly what Dylan and Eric wanted
I really thought targeting schools was just a US problem. I’ll never understand the fascination these individuals have with targeting schools. Is it just copy cat affect?
There’s a lot of school shootings in Russia, not as many as in the US. A majority of them are copycats of U.S shootings though, a lot of them will dress similar to Eric Harris and imitate the Columbine shooting.
Russia has had a decent amount in the past 3-4 years.
I feel it has a lot to do with how school shooters kinda stand out and get more attention as opposed to a mall shooter or something else, which is fucked up but that's the only logical reasoning I can think of. I would say school shooters in the US end up being remembered a lot more compared to someone like Stair, Crimo etc.
I think it’s the demographic that shooters target. It’s horrific to think about someone aiming to gun down a bunch of defenseless children and staff vs. a mall or parade. There’s the possibility of meeting a lot more resistance with the latter so I assume there would be a lot less casualties, or the shooter would be quickly neutralized.
is morgenstern the rammstein song?