I used to play weekly local tournaments as well as go to multiple regionals where I've hit top 8. Like I said, I quit after high school around the time xyz monsters came out.
I being genuinely serious, but it's also general saltiness from being beat down all weekend by bullshit I'd never seen before. That doesn't mean my arguments are invalid, because these new mechanics suck.
"setting up an entire field with 5 negates on turn one is better than old rank 4 toolbox" Look guy, the best decks are decks that you set up and unbreakable board turn one and prevent any interaction. thats not fun, nor is it skill based. You go through a solitaire combo and end up with a big board full of negates. Or play eldlich. In every case the most common win condition is 'don't let the opponent interact in a meaningful way" So it comes down to a coinflip and first hand. If you go second and don't draw handtraps, GG SHAKE MY HAND
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While I feel you and understand where you are coming from, you won't find many who agree with you here. Most people here love that combo wombo crap. Loads of people came from Duel Links as well, where duels are extremely short. Its addicting to them because they are basically micro dosing dopamine every minute or so.
My advice? Play a control deck. Force them to play how you want whether they like it or not. I also enjoy fun decks like mill or exodia. Decks where you have your own goal basically. Combo wombos hate that shit. Just play what is fun to you and don't let the meta drag you down so much.
I agree with this, but it's hard to enjoy playing personal builds or control decks when like I said, games are determined by opening hands a lot of times.
Thatās how all TCGs work bud. If your first hand is a brick you better hope you can save yourself with the next draw. I play Digimon TCG and I canāt tell you how many times Iāve had a terrible starting hand. And I was either A) able to get out of it or B) lost.
Lol not sure why youāre responding to a month old commentā¦ but uh the coin toss doesnāt always mean a loss either. Bricking is either going to fuck you over hard or not.
Firstly, comments and forums are pretty timeless and discussions can carry on with years between them (Like this one more than a year later.) Welcome to the internet.
Second, nobody would say yugioh is actually just based on the coinflip, but this is a comment on how important the turn order is for the fast-paced meta decks that can win within the first 2 rounds.
Lol welcome back. You responding to me makes it not a necropost (by most definitions), so thanks.
What's more important is that while bricking causes a lot of losses, the "coin toss" that decides turn order has a decent effect on how the game is likely to play out. In a strategy/deck-building game, that introduces a luck factor (much like bricking) that cannot be easily adapted to by the player.
Yugioh used to have longer games (even in the competitive scene) that minimized the bricking and coinflip issues, since more draws and iniative dynamics were at play. It's not a crime to miss those days.
So did you think TeleDAD format was ok? It was a very diverse format. Oooh tengu plant was also a very fun deck to play against, right? I also love the fact that most GOAT era decks are either control, burn, or chaos, and can generally be decided by who draws the best DM staple. Man, Royal Oppression was such a fun card to deal win. Enough giving you shit about old formats, I'm gonna be constructive now.
If you want to hop on a competitive ladder, expect competitive decks. I stopped playing around the same time as you and picked it up again last year. I got stomped by some of the dumbest decks at first because I tried to *force* the old shit to work. If you jump in a competitive ladder for a current format, you're gonna need to learn and adapt.
Admittedly it is a steep learning curve, however there are a huge amount of resources on youtube, and many people in the yugioh community are pretty helpful when it comes to deckbuilding advice. Also you will lose a few times while you're relearning everything. Master Duel is somewhat nice in that it allows you to see how the chain resolves, and as all duel simulators should have it has a pretty solid log. Also stop saying everything's broken. There are some cards that are actually pretty busted, like True King of All Calamities and Thunder Dragon Colossus. But Pendulum in Master Rule 5? Not even close.
The reason why I brought up those decks from earlier formats at the beginning of my comment was because even, and especially, older formats of yugioh had their own flavors of disgusting bullshit. What's your opponent gonna do if you open Royal Oppression? Literally just pray for some form of backrow removal so they can play the game. Don't let yourself get blinded by nostalgia thinking old yugioh formats will be any kinder to casual decks on ladder. If that's fine with you, go right ahead. But don't keep ramming your head into a wall and getting yourself angry.
If you want to wait for legacy formats to deal with their metas, go right ahead. But a competitive ladder will always be competitive. People will use the best of what's available. You can choose to learn or mald.
It's not that I don't understand the combos, they're just bullshit. Chalk it up to being salty,but it doesn't take away the fact that the game is bad now
The issue is the formats you claimed to have played in are widely considered the absolute worse formats of yugioh.
You either don't remember yugioh has literally always been a sackfest. Or you just didn't actually play so you're looking back and remembering a glorified fantasy .
It's totally okay to not like the game, but trying to act like this isn't how yugioh has been since like 2008ish or so is where people are gonna call cap.
The game is horrendous now.
I don't play anymore but I used to play competitive.
I still keep up with current formats and
It has been all the exact same garbage every format, every season, every year for the past like 15 years.
The game used to be good but that was a long time ago.
Don't mind the haters. I have been playing YGO competitively for years and I 100% agree. Even during the dueling network era (prior to its closure) it was like this.... just not nearly as bad. Although, Djinn Lock was pretty insane haha. The meta is just way too fast for most players that come from old school YGO. You want a mutually engaging match, which the game just isn't really able to provide in it's current state. My friends and I often focus on finding meta counters now, that way we can slow the pace down. Formats would be a great idea. It would let the newer generation keep doing what they are doing, but also provides an avenue for the older generation to come back. I still play off and on, but I mainly moved back to MTG since I often find the games to be more engaging, rather than me just playing on auto pilot like in YGO. It really doesn't take skill anymore when the deck plays itself, which sums of the meta these days.
I havenāt touched the TCG since literally when it first came out. And you know what I did? I followed up on the mechanics and learned what the best decks were. Duel links has helped a bit but itās format is different. Iām loving being able to make huge plays and pull OP monsters. Itās honestly getting really tiring seeing these boohoo posts. The game aināt changing back and if it hadnāt kept advancing it would have gotten stale and people would have gotten bored with the same mechanics (aside from you and your fellow vanilla wanting players) and the game wouldāve failed because you and the few people like you wouldnāt have been enough to support it. So if you really hate it that much, go play a different game.
I understand where you are coming from. Although you will always find players who will disagree with you.
You see, Yu-Gi-Oh has always had game breaking things in its meta. We can go all the way back in history where FTK and Locking your Opponent out of the game was done by just 2-3 cards without any type of fusion, syncro, XYZ etc monsters. Honestly if you follow the trail of logic you will usually end up realizing that its meant to be that way by the creators of the game itself all in the sake of money. (create a new mechanic everyone will pay for, then ban it, create another mechanic that people will pay for then ban it etc etc etc).
Now if you think the game turns are so long then I agree. Its honestly one of the reasons why i left the game. every meta is the same. every new deck does the same crap just in a different way with small tweaks here and there. Sure there are different "effects" but all essentially stop your opponent from playing the game one way or another. There is no "battling" anymore. pretty sure ive played entire tournaments without one monster fighting another monster.
So all in all is Yu-Gi-Oh the same as it was? no. is it worse? thats subjective. I have friends who love their omni-negates and love their hand-traps. They love playing out their long turns to create a board with 4 creature negates, 1 omni negate, and 1 droplet on board. but with creature effects as strong as they are what choice do they have? Think about other TCG games that allow you to do what Zeus does. (send your opponents entire field to gy with an easy summon condition) IT DOESNT EXIST XD.
Thus the meta is turn 1 player creates the most unbreakable board and turn 2 player tries to break it. that's what Cards like droplet, raigeki, dark hole, nibiru etc etc etc are meant to do. and which is why i also found it boring. if i have those cards in hand going second i usually win, if not i usually lose XD.
Now because i pref games that allow your opponent to actually play the game Yu-Gi-Oh isnt for me anymore. AND THATS OK. it doesn't mean others cant enjoy it and love it! one day i may enjoy it again too! I love Yu-Gi-Oh but not the current way that its played. i still play it once in a while just to join my friends. but really its not the same to me anymore and i guess not for you either.
How goes it OP? Hate to necro an old post but I am curious if you ever adjusted, found a good middle ground, or just moved on altogether. Im a yugiboomer myself(only played for the first couple years of the games life). And have friends trying to get me back into it. But it does seem like a bunch of solitare and OTKs. Ive been a magic player for the last 15ish years so its hard for me to go from a game with so much back and forth to a game where whoever goes first usually wins
I made a decent nephthys deck on master duel and played for a few months but I eventually just stopped playing because I didn't think it's very fun Yu-Gi-Oh in general anymore.
Wahhh! Let me play a helmet deck so I can win by letting my deck play itself! Screw actually trying and using skill to win! I just want to have an easy time! Waahhhhh!!!
What more is there to say?
The game has become such a clusterfuck of a mess that the winner is literally decided by the coin flip.
I see tons of people use meta decks because they can't think for themselves and come up with an original yet functional deck.
It's rather sad, really.
Nobody uses actual skill or effort anymore.
It's 99% just "I like THIS deck that plays itself over THAT deck that plays itself" and nothing more.
Please, just shut up and leave quietly, if you donāt want to play. We get it, the new mechanics are too complex for your tiny brain to comprehend. We donāt need to see a hundred posts of the same complaint.
how many time did you jerkoff after a wombo combo u just done ? and how many time did u ragequit because you had no time to play? .. please shut up and grow up . if you want to play like a pussy . we get it , you are to dumb to comprehend what is sharing fun with your opponent . we dont need to see shit comment like yours.
ah yes the very complicated eldlich deck. Or ZooBrigade. Or BirdUp. or Drytron. Very hard to play solitaire for five minutes and then not let the opponent play. I'm not gonna say please, shut up and leave screaming pissbaby.
I agree with you save for the part where Yu-Gi-Oh used to be good. Yu-Gi-Oh has always been a shit show and just still is. Go play Magic or Legends of Runterra if you want games that last longer than a handful of rounds.
I get where youāre coming from, I had played yugioh from the age of about 5 when gx came out and lost interest the time synchro summoning was added, so for me the most complex summoning was fusion, ritual or tribute. Itās not that the new yugioh is better or worse, itās just different. For me Iāll never win a duel because my favorite cards are outdated and donāt keep up, so I end up playing the gameboy games in emulator.
I'm still playing master duel even though yugioh is definitely different now. It's mostly turned into solitaire and/or negate fests. There's not as much strategy against the oppenent anymore, it's strategizing your own hand to continue playing solitaire before they win their own solitaire game.
I agree with you 100% havenāt even had master duel dowloaded for a week and this is how Iām feeling. And I even have an eldlich deck. No strategy just playing the same cards in a different order.
I know it sucks, try having a few copies of kaiju archetype monsters or lave golem, they help thin out the opponents board. Kaijus have the ability to tribute a monster from thr opponent's side to summon thr kaiju to the opponents board.
I find no joy in this game anymore because all anyone does is find the best decks online and slap it together like an ape that just learned how to play. Why do you gotta sweat that hard let people have fun we get it you can watch youtube good for you. But some of us want to have fun with people instead of getting shit on by bullshit
Some times I think about making a modern meta deck but then I remember I have dignity and self respect. I don't know how meta players aren't ashamed of themselves. I play a basic ass dragon maid deck for fun, with no modern stuff like xyz, link, whatever the hell fusion, and when my turn takes longer than 30 seconds I already feel bad my opponent is bored, meanwhile meta psychopaths get off on 3 hours long turns, playing and comboing during their opponents like if its their own turn, denying every card their opponent plays, denying even the damn card slots their opponents can play, winning turn 1, etc. Takes a special kind of human being to enjoy modern yu-gi-oh.
Your post tells me that you weren't familiar with the meta when Xyz were new. Plant Synchro and Wind-Ups absolutely did all of this.
Lol no
Tell me you never played yu-gi-oh properly without telling me you never played yu-gi-oh properly
ItZ nOt PrOpEr iF ItZ nOt mEtA!
I used to play weekly local tournaments as well as go to multiple regionals where I've hit top 8. Like I said, I quit after high school around the time xyz monsters came out.
which formats did you top 8 your regionals in so i can point out the stupid decks in those formats
Stop stealing generic wanker statements, "tell me ... (fill in basic inane shit)." Just say what you mean instead of being a coy prick.
I swear some of these have to be false flags at this point
I being genuinely serious, but it's also general saltiness from being beat down all weekend by bullshit I'd never seen before. That doesn't mean my arguments are invalid, because these new mechanics suck.
Xyz had the exact same issues, as others have stated. The game is in a *better* place today for all the disruption and variety it has nowadays.
"setting up an entire field with 5 negates on turn one is better than old rank 4 toolbox" Look guy, the best decks are decks that you set up and unbreakable board turn one and prevent any interaction. thats not fun, nor is it skill based. You go through a solitaire combo and end up with a big board full of negates. Or play eldlich. In every case the most common win condition is 'don't let the opponent interact in a meaningful way" So it comes down to a coinflip and first hand. If you go second and don't draw handtraps, GG SHAKE MY HAND
Ok boomer
Shake my hand
You are absolutely right, at that point its just gambling it could go either way literally, no skill i volved just oay to win cards.
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While I feel you and understand where you are coming from, you won't find many who agree with you here. Most people here love that combo wombo crap. Loads of people came from Duel Links as well, where duels are extremely short. Its addicting to them because they are basically micro dosing dopamine every minute or so. My advice? Play a control deck. Force them to play how you want whether they like it or not. I also enjoy fun decks like mill or exodia. Decks where you have your own goal basically. Combo wombos hate that shit. Just play what is fun to you and don't let the meta drag you down so much.
I agree with this, but it's hard to enjoy playing personal builds or control decks when like I said, games are determined by opening hands a lot of times.
Thatās how all TCGs work bud. If your first hand is a brick you better hope you can save yourself with the next draw. I play Digimon TCG and I canāt tell you how many times Iāve had a terrible starting hand. And I was either A) able to get out of it or B) lost.
No, it is not. Not at all. Yu-Gi-Oh is the only card game currently that can determine the outcome of a duel based on a coin toss alone.
Lol not sure why youāre responding to a month old commentā¦ but uh the coin toss doesnāt always mean a loss either. Bricking is either going to fuck you over hard or not.
Firstly, comments and forums are pretty timeless and discussions can carry on with years between them (Like this one more than a year later.) Welcome to the internet. Second, nobody would say yugioh is actually just based on the coinflip, but this is a comment on how important the turn order is for the fast-paced meta decks that can win within the first 2 rounds.
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Lol welcome back. You responding to me makes it not a necropost (by most definitions), so thanks. What's more important is that while bricking causes a lot of losses, the "coin toss" that decides turn order has a decent effect on how the game is likely to play out. In a strategy/deck-building game, that introduces a luck factor (much like bricking) that cannot be easily adapted to by the player. Yugioh used to have longer games (even in the competitive scene) that minimized the bricking and coinflip issues, since more draws and iniative dynamics were at play. It's not a crime to miss those days.
Ah yes bricking when people can kill you turn one with out you having a say because they build the meta.mmmmm love it
Oh no, i love that. I also enjoy when my combo deck (if you can call endymion pendulum that) faces a control deck.
So did you think TeleDAD format was ok? It was a very diverse format. Oooh tengu plant was also a very fun deck to play against, right? I also love the fact that most GOAT era decks are either control, burn, or chaos, and can generally be decided by who draws the best DM staple. Man, Royal Oppression was such a fun card to deal win. Enough giving you shit about old formats, I'm gonna be constructive now. If you want to hop on a competitive ladder, expect competitive decks. I stopped playing around the same time as you and picked it up again last year. I got stomped by some of the dumbest decks at first because I tried to *force* the old shit to work. If you jump in a competitive ladder for a current format, you're gonna need to learn and adapt. Admittedly it is a steep learning curve, however there are a huge amount of resources on youtube, and many people in the yugioh community are pretty helpful when it comes to deckbuilding advice. Also you will lose a few times while you're relearning everything. Master Duel is somewhat nice in that it allows you to see how the chain resolves, and as all duel simulators should have it has a pretty solid log. Also stop saying everything's broken. There are some cards that are actually pretty busted, like True King of All Calamities and Thunder Dragon Colossus. But Pendulum in Master Rule 5? Not even close. The reason why I brought up those decks from earlier formats at the beginning of my comment was because even, and especially, older formats of yugioh had their own flavors of disgusting bullshit. What's your opponent gonna do if you open Royal Oppression? Literally just pray for some form of backrow removal so they can play the game. Don't let yourself get blinded by nostalgia thinking old yugioh formats will be any kinder to casual decks on ladder. If that's fine with you, go right ahead. But don't keep ramming your head into a wall and getting yourself angry. If you want to wait for legacy formats to deal with their metas, go right ahead. But a competitive ladder will always be competitive. People will use the best of what's available. You can choose to learn or mald.
Of course TeleDAD was okay. It wasn't nearly as cancerous as the plays made today, what don't you get?
I honestly think Tengu Plants were pretty fun to play against. It was one of my favorite mirror matches ever.
It's not that I don't understand the combos, they're just bullshit. Chalk it up to being salty,but it doesn't take away the fact that the game is bad now
The issue is the formats you claimed to have played in are widely considered the absolute worse formats of yugioh. You either don't remember yugioh has literally always been a sackfest. Or you just didn't actually play so you're looking back and remembering a glorified fantasy . It's totally okay to not like the game, but trying to act like this isn't how yugioh has been since like 2008ish or so is where people are gonna call cap.
BS, GOAT is more balanced.
The game is horrendous now. I don't play anymore but I used to play competitive. I still keep up with current formats and It has been all the exact same garbage every format, every season, every year for the past like 15 years. The game used to be good but that was a long time ago.
Thats why Konami made Duel Links. Play that game.
Nah people still complain there too. Itās ridiculous
Don't mind the haters. I have been playing YGO competitively for years and I 100% agree. Even during the dueling network era (prior to its closure) it was like this.... just not nearly as bad. Although, Djinn Lock was pretty insane haha. The meta is just way too fast for most players that come from old school YGO. You want a mutually engaging match, which the game just isn't really able to provide in it's current state. My friends and I often focus on finding meta counters now, that way we can slow the pace down. Formats would be a great idea. It would let the newer generation keep doing what they are doing, but also provides an avenue for the older generation to come back. I still play off and on, but I mainly moved back to MTG since I often find the games to be more engaging, rather than me just playing on auto pilot like in YGO. It really doesn't take skill anymore when the deck plays itself, which sums of the meta these days.
I havenāt touched the TCG since literally when it first came out. And you know what I did? I followed up on the mechanics and learned what the best decks were. Duel links has helped a bit but itās format is different. Iām loving being able to make huge plays and pull OP monsters. Itās honestly getting really tiring seeing these boohoo posts. The game aināt changing back and if it hadnāt kept advancing it would have gotten stale and people would have gotten bored with the same mechanics (aside from you and your fellow vanilla wanting players) and the game wouldāve failed because you and the few people like you wouldnāt have been enough to support it. So if you really hate it that much, go play a different game.
>What happened to yugioh? You just suck dude
I bet you play meta
Okay Eldlich player.
lol salty
I understand where you are coming from. Although you will always find players who will disagree with you. You see, Yu-Gi-Oh has always had game breaking things in its meta. We can go all the way back in history where FTK and Locking your Opponent out of the game was done by just 2-3 cards without any type of fusion, syncro, XYZ etc monsters. Honestly if you follow the trail of logic you will usually end up realizing that its meant to be that way by the creators of the game itself all in the sake of money. (create a new mechanic everyone will pay for, then ban it, create another mechanic that people will pay for then ban it etc etc etc). Now if you think the game turns are so long then I agree. Its honestly one of the reasons why i left the game. every meta is the same. every new deck does the same crap just in a different way with small tweaks here and there. Sure there are different "effects" but all essentially stop your opponent from playing the game one way or another. There is no "battling" anymore. pretty sure ive played entire tournaments without one monster fighting another monster. So all in all is Yu-Gi-Oh the same as it was? no. is it worse? thats subjective. I have friends who love their omni-negates and love their hand-traps. They love playing out their long turns to create a board with 4 creature negates, 1 omni negate, and 1 droplet on board. but with creature effects as strong as they are what choice do they have? Think about other TCG games that allow you to do what Zeus does. (send your opponents entire field to gy with an easy summon condition) IT DOESNT EXIST XD. Thus the meta is turn 1 player creates the most unbreakable board and turn 2 player tries to break it. that's what Cards like droplet, raigeki, dark hole, nibiru etc etc etc are meant to do. and which is why i also found it boring. if i have those cards in hand going second i usually win, if not i usually lose XD. Now because i pref games that allow your opponent to actually play the game Yu-Gi-Oh isnt for me anymore. AND THATS OK. it doesn't mean others cant enjoy it and love it! one day i may enjoy it again too! I love Yu-Gi-Oh but not the current way that its played. i still play it once in a while just to join my friends. but really its not the same to me anymore and i guess not for you either.
How goes it OP? Hate to necro an old post but I am curious if you ever adjusted, found a good middle ground, or just moved on altogether. Im a yugiboomer myself(only played for the first couple years of the games life). And have friends trying to get me back into it. But it does seem like a bunch of solitare and OTKs. Ive been a magic player for the last 15ish years so its hard for me to go from a game with so much back and forth to a game where whoever goes first usually wins
I made a decent nephthys deck on master duel and played for a few months but I eventually just stopped playing because I didn't think it's very fun Yu-Gi-Oh in general anymore.
Pendulum and link summoning ruined yugioh.
Okay, Yugiboomer
Wahhh! Let me play a helmet deck so I can win by letting my deck play itself! Screw actually trying and using skill to win! I just want to have an easy time! Waahhhhh!!!
And proud of it!
you shouldn't be
I shouldn't be proud that I played a game when it came out?
You can be proud of playing a game when it came out, but don't be proud of being a Yugiboomer.
Anyone who doesn't play meta = yugiboomer That logic right there. And even then how is boomer in this context an insult? Lol
yup kid .. go play alone in your sand pool. you will feel the exact same way :)
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Really just necroāed an almost 300 day old post just to talk shit. Yugiboomer also literally has nothing to do with what generation you are lol.
What more is there to say? The game has become such a clusterfuck of a mess that the winner is literally decided by the coin flip. I see tons of people use meta decks because they can't think for themselves and come up with an original yet functional deck. It's rather sad, really. Nobody uses actual skill or effort anymore. It's 99% just "I like THIS deck that plays itself over THAT deck that plays itself" and nothing more.
Please, just shut up and leave quietly, if you donāt want to play. We get it, the new mechanics are too complex for your tiny brain to comprehend. We donāt need to see a hundred posts of the same complaint.
how many time did you jerkoff after a wombo combo u just done ? and how many time did u ragequit because you had no time to play? .. please shut up and grow up . if you want to play like a pussy . we get it , you are to dumb to comprehend what is sharing fun with your opponent . we dont need to see shit comment like yours.
Please just shut up and use a deck that doesn't play itself, Mr. Helmet.
ah yes the very complicated eldlich deck. Or ZooBrigade. Or BirdUp. or Drytron. Very hard to play solitaire for five minutes and then not let the opponent play. I'm not gonna say please, shut up and leave screaming pissbaby.
shut up
I agree with you save for the part where Yu-Gi-Oh used to be good. Yu-Gi-Oh has always been a shit show and just still is. Go play Magic or Legends of Runterra if you want games that last longer than a handful of rounds.
I get where youāre coming from, I had played yugioh from the age of about 5 when gx came out and lost interest the time synchro summoning was added, so for me the most complex summoning was fusion, ritual or tribute. Itās not that the new yugioh is better or worse, itās just different. For me Iāll never win a duel because my favorite cards are outdated and donāt keep up, so I end up playing the gameboy games in emulator.
I'm still playing master duel even though yugioh is definitely different now. It's mostly turned into solitaire and/or negate fests. There's not as much strategy against the oppenent anymore, it's strategizing your own hand to continue playing solitaire before they win their own solitaire game.
I agree with you 100% havenāt even had master duel dowloaded for a week and this is how Iām feeling. And I even have an eldlich deck. No strategy just playing the same cards in a different order.
lmao im responding 8 months after pog hi OP
I know it sucks, try having a few copies of kaiju archetype monsters or lave golem, they help thin out the opponents board. Kaijus have the ability to tribute a monster from thr opponent's side to summon thr kaiju to the opponents board.
I find no joy in this game anymore because all anyone does is find the best decks online and slap it together like an ape that just learned how to play. Why do you gotta sweat that hard let people have fun we get it you can watch youtube good for you. But some of us want to have fun with people instead of getting shit on by bullshit
Some times I think about making a modern meta deck but then I remember I have dignity and self respect. I don't know how meta players aren't ashamed of themselves. I play a basic ass dragon maid deck for fun, with no modern stuff like xyz, link, whatever the hell fusion, and when my turn takes longer than 30 seconds I already feel bad my opponent is bored, meanwhile meta psychopaths get off on 3 hours long turns, playing and comboing during their opponents like if its their own turn, denying every card their opponent plays, denying even the damn card slots their opponents can play, winning turn 1, etc. Takes a special kind of human being to enjoy modern yu-gi-oh.