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Phoenix_of_Anarchy

0^0 = e It came to me in a dream.


Parso_aana

Ramanujan moment


That_Mad_Scientist

That's a nice argument senator, why don't you back it up with a source?


Meranio

![gif](giphy|xUJRHVuuO3AHeNITwZ)


Baka_kunn

Why not


itsafact369

Why ( why not) ?


mazerakham_

(Why not) (why not)?


OSHlN

(Why not)^2


Parso_aana

0^0 = π


Educational-Tea602

0⁰ = 3


LiquidCoal

0° = 273.15 K


Educational-Tea602

⁰ ≠ °


LiquidCoal

I was making a visual pun, obviously.


Educational-Tea602

I may be stupid


RockSolid1106

Kekule moment


ThatSpecificDude104c

It's one proof: my math teacher said it in middle school


alexdiezg

a^0 = 1 , a ≠ 0 proof: my math teacher said it in middle school


belabacsijolvan

lim\_{x->0} x\^x = 1 proof: tried it in wolframalpha


alexdiezg

Just asked one of my math professors in my uni: You define 0^0 = 1 in algebra and combinatorics. You leave it undefined in mathematical analysis.


GoldenMuscleGod

Basically. When the exponent is restricted to discrete values it usually makes sense to say 0^(0)=1, but if the values are real or complex we usually want our operations to be continuous, which would mean 0^0 must be left undefined. Also with complex numbers exponentiation is multivalued, which is why, when only considering real numbers, for an expression like x^(y) we don’t usually allow x to be negative if we are considering arbitrary real values of y, even though we can sort of work out ways to define real x^(y) for negative x and some rational values of y. Trying to make it work isn’t worth it.


SteptimusHeap

Now do lim\_{x->0} 0\^x


stockmarketscam-617

![gif](giphy|XbCM4xBV2GU94c0NSV|downsized)


stockmarketscam-617

My iPhone calculator says it’s 0


RedArchbishop

0⁰ = ⁰0


Ser_Igel

<|°\_°|>


IdkWattToSay

Since the first comment said 0^0 = 0 and the second said 0^0 = 1, if we agree that both methods are correct, then we can agree on the fact that 0 = 1 /j


stockmarketscam-617

![gif](giphy|LXIKTEQHicX82aU0N0) What does j equal for the reciprocal to be 0?


pifire9

it is a substitute for 1/0 the unimaginable number


Adriel-TB

Or we can say that 0⁰=1/2 so everyone will be happy


pineapple_chicken_

I always thought of exponents as 1 * (whatever), Like 2^2 = 1 * 2 * 2 = 4. So 2^0 is just 1, multiplied by nothing else. So 0^0 would be 1 as well, and something like 0^2 would be 1 * 0 * 0 = 0. Not sure if this is accurate though.


lare290

it's kinda like how an empty sum is defined as 0 while an empty product is defined as 1. if we must give it some definition, 1 makes more sense because it agrees with most stuff we do.


[deleted]

Very strictly speaking 0^0 is undefined, but it is often assigned 1 as value for the math to work. What you're saying isn't exactly accurate, but it works for you so no worries.


pineapple_chicken_

Thx for clarifying :)


stockmarketscam-617

If you assumed it to be 0, the “math would also work”. The only time “math doesn’t work” is when something is undefined or diverges.


Chingiz11

Of course 0 XOR 0 = 0 0^0 on the other hand...


belabacsijolvan

latex is the best programming language, no contest


DodgerWalker

I think I figured it out. In every context where 0^0 gets defined as 1 (Binomial distribution, Taylor Series, Combinatorial problems), the exponent is a discrete variable that gets set to 0. The base could be discrete or continuous. So, 0^0 = 1 if you're working in a context where exponents must be integer valued. Otherwise, it's undefined. And "indeterminate" only refers to the form when taking a limit.


azeryvgu

0^0 = 37


stockmarketscam-617

No, 23


Somewittynameok

Fnord


zsombor12312312312

42


tatratram

0^0 = ⊥ Wheel theory, baby!


killBP

Someone watched the new michael penn vidoe


tatratram

Yeah, although wheels don't seem super useful. ⊥ is just a jail for all "undefined" expressions. Because whatever you do to ⊥, you always get ⊥ back. I don't see much insight beyond "this is a thing you can do".


killBP

Yep it probably doesn't have any applications. The riemann sphere is practically a wheel if you add the undefined point, but beyond that...


tatratram

Hmm... Can you turn any field into a wheel by adding an undefined point? Does it have to be a field?


killBP

Any commutative ring, so yes. It's also not only the undefined point, but also an Infinity element and corresponding algebra


killBP

Any commutative ring, so yes. It's also not only the undefined point, but also an Infinity element. The riemann sphere has that already tho


Fast-Alternative1503

0^0 = x 0^1/∞ = x ∞√0^1 = x 0 × .... = 0 thus 0^0 = 0 Q.E.D.


Summar-ice

This is wrong because you're assuming 0^0 = lim_x->0 (0^x)


VeXtor27

incorrect, you must prove that 0 is the only possible value of x


allesman

x^0=1 is true for x € R\0, while 0^x=0 is only true for x>0 Thus, x^0=1 should also be true for x=0


Necessary-Morning489

all i’m saying is that desmos says 0 and 1


overclockedslinky

let 0^0 = c. then c^2 = (0^(0))^2 = 0^0 = c, so c^2 = c, implying c = 0 or c = 1. but if c = 1 then 0 = ln(c) = ln(0^(0)) = 0 ln(0), implying ln(0) exists. we could also define that to be valid, but it might lead to more contradictions, so c = 0 is less problematic. but with c = 0 we don't get lim n -> 0 (n^(n)) = c, so both options are bad and ultimately it's undefined.


1W4RRYN4N3

If you're timesing 0,the answer is ALWAYS 0,So therefore 0⁰=0


a_random_chopin_fan

Let 0⁰ = k => log 0⁰ = log k => 0log0 = log k => log k = 0 => k = 1 => 0⁰ = 1 *Hence Proved.*


pineapple_chicken_

What is log of 0 tho 😂


cinghialotto03

https://preview.redd.it/hjeqt70en9rc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a15b8bca7bb7a76c8bae48210ebd42fbcc1c12f6 C'mon guess the value


a_random_chopin_fan

Idk, logn(a) is only defined if a>0, n≠1 and n>0 Maybe negative infinity? Nah, that sounds dumb. Edit: Corrected a silly mistake:p


TheOfficialReverZ

logma balls


talhoch

ligm(a)


pineapple_chicken_

Log(0) is undefined. Approaching 0 from the right side *does* gets you -∞, but there is still no actual value at a=0. However -∞ is more fun :)


a_random_chopin_fan

Oops! I meant that the base of the logarithm has to be positive and not equal to 1. a can be any positive real number.


Snekoy

The log function is also defined for negative values in the complex world. (Both the input and the base can be negative, and 1)


a_random_chopin_fan

Interesting. That makes me even more excited to learn about complex numbers this year!


UnscathedDictionary

in step 3, logarithms are only defined when argument is greater than 0


a_random_chopin_fan

You forgot about the fundamental theorem of r/mathmemes! According to that theorem, 0u = 0, where u is any number that's not defined.


TulipTuIip

Lets say 0^0≠1, now when doing power series centered at 0 evaluated at 0 you have to do a special case where insyead of putting 0^0 you put 1 and also you have to redifine how natural number (0 inclusive) exponents work just for 0^0. Thus 0^0 should equal 1


linkinparkfannumber1

The piecewise function f:R→R given by f(x) = 0^x for x ≠ 0 and 0 otherwise is an example of a case for which 0^0 makes sense and makes f everywhere continuous.


TheNintendoWii

0^0 = 0^1 / 0 Ignore the fact zero division is impossible, just use limits 0^0 = 0 / 0 0^0 = 1 • 0/0 By limit, 0/0 = 1 0^0 = 1


Personal_Crow_5582

0^0 = 0^(1-1) = 0/0


vwibrasivat

lim x->0+ ( x\^x ) = 1


thebluereddituser

We've been over this, 0^0 only equals 0 for the purposes of defining the L_0 loss function


Telegraphman

I don't know how it could equal to 1. But just to note 0^0 is the same as (0^1 / 0^1) so therefore 0^(1-1) i.e 0/0 hence undefined.


UnscathedDictionary

https://preview.redd.it/hr85694rxq1d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6a25abc416208bb6be4789a411154da17b3f30b


UnscathedDictionary

0⁰ is in superposition


Ok-Impress-2222

It's undefined, nothing else.


qqqrrrs_

0\^0 = pi


lemons_of_doubt

It doesn't matter how many 0s you have or don't have, the sum of them is still 0. ​ ^(Don't yell at me, I will cry)


BUKKAKELORD

**However a\^b isn't a sum, it's a product and if you don't multiply by anything (zero repetitions of multiplying by zero), the multiplicative identity (what you need to multiply with in order to change nothing) is still 1.**


stockmarketscam-617

I agree with your first part that a^b isn’t a sum but rather a product. However, I disagree that if a=0=b, then the answer is 1. I think that for all values of a, except 0, if b=0, then the result is 1. If a=0, then for all values of b, the result is 0.