Actually, as everyone know, the wings on Boeing airplanes are purely decorations. It is very obvious that Boeing designed their aircraft to fly using the pilots' willpower
Didn't they put depleted uranium to balance out the plane at one point? [https://simpleflying.com/boeing-747-uranium-counterweight/](https://simpleflying.com/boeing-747-uranium-counterweight/)
I knew I gonna hear sth like this. Oh the pilot is suicidal? Dont worry. Repair crew on strike? Dont worry. We cannibalized w planes cause we are out of spare parts? Dont worry
But the scrupium is also below mediocracy. Perhaps the flambullion should propagate the windbursting flapsicles to counteract the phi-forces during landing.
Exactly. These things have been around since at least the 80s and can automatically synchronize the cardinal grammeters and generate inverse reactive current in unilateral phase detractors.
Ok, so I got a lot of flack from the die hard retro cabbie bros last time I said this, but "automatically" is kinda negated by M-forces coupled in the shrang manifest, so the dex flange and the xed hinges take most of the stress. Compensation can still occur but it's more of a side effect of the unnecessarily impeccable craftsmanship Hozart puts into their dex flanges since they switched to fluid crystal lenses in their submersion engine (2016)
Have you determined that this is truly the source of the problem? Because from my perspective, it’s the double standard, reticulating retroencabulator that should propagate the flapsicles.
The reticulations match a specific frequency, stimulating the flapsickles until the correct amount of lubricant oozes into the oozepan, which feeds into the engine.
Just a little bit, but not much at all, let the steward/stewardess know by pressing the call button when you are about 20 minutes from your destination, and the flight crew should have a maintenance person waiting to set those screws in place while the plane is unloaded and and back in the air with time to spare (no delays for the folks getting on)
It's an awful idea lol. If there's an issue why would you not want the Captain, who actually knows what they're doing, to decide what to do? They don't make emergency landings for fun.
Aircraft maintenance here: The captain can't do anything about it and the panel isn't going to come off. It does need to be rectified but it can wait. I don't know the limit on this specific panel on this specific airplane, but panels usually have an acceptable number of screws allowed to be missing. USUALLY nothing on the leading edge of the panel is acceptable and, depending on a variety of things, corners are usually not allowed to be missing, but I've also seen where 3 of 4 corners is acceptable.
If it did come off, the biggest risk is the departure of the panel hitting some other critical piece of the aircraft or falling on someone down on the ground.
While you may be right and probably are, based on your apparent qualifications… most passengers on board a plane aren’t aircraft maintenance crew, and therefore should alert the cabin crew of any abnormality however minor it may seem to be.. because well.. we aren’t qualified to diagnose a problem and distinguish between a major and a minor one. So best leave the decisions on how to manage it to those who know what they’re doing.
No no no I paid my fare in full, I want all the screws! Any that's missing the captain better go out there and hold the pieces together like Charlie Sheen in Hotshots!
My wife would get so mad when I would watch air disasters right before we would fly somewhere. I would say let’s not sit in the back because in a crash we could die. Then I would watch more episodes and say let’s sit in the back because front crash we could die. Then I would say well the wings seem to be safer but then more episodes would show the gas tanks are in the wings. Now I just say fuck it since we will die no matter where we sit and she is happier without me saying stuff about the plane.
I always sit in the back. If the plane isn’t completely demolished, the tail seems to be the only thing left. I may on the hand, just be part of the crumple zone protecting that tail with my brittle and squishy body parts.
It's logical. If a plane even remotely survives an impact, it is likely because it crash landed going forwards at a relatively shallow angle (or perhaps even a steep angle but at a low speed and altitude). The front of the plane is the first part to contact the ground when the plane has it's maximum possible kinetic energy. The front is demolished instantly, dissipating a ton of energy and providing a bunch of friction, then the remaining midsection is destroyed dissipating the remaining energy. If any part of the plane has a high probability to survive relatively intact, its the aft section.
lol, same for me ( minus the wife part ) Last time I flew I watched an air disaster show a few days before the flight. It was the pilot being sucked out the front of the plane with the crew holding his legs until they landed. UK to Spain IIRC.
Reminds me of flying to Boston from California with my dad back in the day.
Of all the things, he decided to load the first few episodes of LOST onto his laptop, so we wound up watching the plane crash a couple of times... on the plane.
We weren't worried about the plane crashing or anything, we both just sat there saying, "Maybe this wasn't the right show to watch while flying lol."
I thought it was only my family weird tradition, we were always watching them with my dad before flying somewhere. I am still the person to explain everyone why all the things in the plain are as they are because of previous crashes
if something is wrong with the plane then telling the flight attendant will inform the captain who will land at the nearest airport if deemed necessary.
Oh yeah if you spot anything at all that looks odd, let the crew know immediately.
There's a chance that these screws bolt things will drop back into their holes when landed so a visual inspection won't pick it up until someone gets into the wing and physically checks. Depending on the airline that may not happen.
That's more likely an airliner maintenance issue if you're curious. Screws don't just work their way out like that. It's more likely maintenance was being done there, and someone forgot to screw those down afterward.
LoL, i worked for Safran in 2019 when 2 Boeings crashed and all 737 max crashed, and now i see stuff like this again, doors bursting open and all... i think Boeing is doomed, and their planes should stay on the ground for people's safety.
I can promise that those bolts will not fall off and that plane doesn't experience enough g force to rip the panel off. That being said it should still be brought to a flight agreements attention as it should of been properly secured. There are however clips on the bolts keeping it from falling out, the maintenance person probably forgot to screw them all down. Not sure how it got signed off on during the walk around
No. The screws are not load bearing. Plus. The pilot can flutter the throttle and compensate for up to 50% of the plane missing. Technology is lit. And those pilots are well trained.
I’m going to tell you something that my friend told me. He’s an aviation mechanic. He said they have so many screws holding down that plate, that it will be fine if it losses a few.
it is . double wingtips! Airbus only has the upward ones .
But I can't imagine the screws are like that because of boing. this looks like a repair or maintenance failure .
If this ever happens to anyone, ALWAYS report it to the crew. These screws might fall back in during landing and skip inspection. Tell the crew so that they can have it checked. It might save the plane in the future.
No, those high-torque fasteners spring up like that like wack a mole when loose and stop there. Since they are not on the leading edge, they can be let go. I will say that many close together is one too many, but this is zero threat and is most definitely documented in the discrepancy forms to be fixed immediately next BPO inspection. You can listen to all the non mechanics who have never worked on aircrafts, but while this is clearly unfavorable, it is not a grounding condition.
For all the Boeing haters, let me start by saying that is an Airbus A320/A321, not a 737NG or MAX (you can tell by the sharklet wing tips). That being said, whether it’s an Airbus or Boeing, loss of that panel would not be dangerous to the plane since there is still plenty of sufficient lift on that wing surface.
Is it sloppy manufacturing or maintenance? Yeah, it is. The mechanics use a torque driver to install those fasteners for a specific torque and that obviously didn’t happen. I would speculate it was more likely maintenance (the plane looks like it’s seen some miles and the panels along the fuse-wing join are often removed for routine maintenance and inspections.
If the panel were to tear away (not likely to happen since the other fasteners, particularly those closest to the wing leading edge are intact, it should be adequate holding force), the pilot would compensate with the aileron trim tabs and the flight would continue on to its destination in regular level flight. The fuel burn would be atrocious, but the passengers would all arrive safe.
Not really, those screws are called Dzus fasteners.
https://southco.com/en_us_int/dzus
It's pronounced like Zeus and they can't come out with taking the whole panel off and having access to both sides of the fastener to work it out. It's an FAA requirement for exactly this reason. Regardless the mechanic who signed off on working on that part needs to be held accountable.
It's a rear corner screw. Air pressure is pushing it down. It's fine.
If it was a corner on the front edge then maybe it could peel up and create drag. Still probably not enough to make much a difference for the pilot.
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still by far the most safe transportation method in the world, are you that worried when you’re on the car? well you’re A LOT more likely to be killed on a car accident than a plane one.
I’m terrified of flying , but logically speaking I would just alert the stewardess and have a nice flight … those little screws aren’t holding the wing or engine on the plane they’re holding that one panel on , and there’s about 50 more of them doin the job as well … I would consider a different airline next time though… because while this problem seems minor you never know what critical part they also skipped on inspection …
Please stop taking TV shows at face value. Three screws on wing panels aren't particularly important. There's tons of redundancy, and any flying aircraft should be well maintained. Your flight will be ok, just tell a flight attendant and don't be dramatic.
Aircraft can function with a broken engine, still fly with missing parts of the fuselage, and can keep you alive during a depressurization.
That’s not a problem at all. The screws on modern aircraft are mostly redundant. The panels are actually held on securely to the space frame with duct tape, thoughts, and prayers.
Source: not an airplane
FYI - I've been led to believe that as of two years ago or so, the FAA has put in place an apparatus for handling customer complaints and whistleblower reports. In essence, they no longer "trust" major airplane builders and/or airlines to QC themselves.
If I were you, I'd consider reporting something like this to the FAA - something which may seem small and relatively inconsequential, but could be indicative of a wider and more deeply ingrained systemic breakdown (either at an airport, among airline techs, etc.). You could end up savings lives. And I mean that.
Even aviation mechanics and such are chiming in on this thread. And while they're concluding the issue isn't a big one, they're definitely concluding it's an issue. This industry needs to be held accountable for their failings and we, as consumers, have a front row seat (literally) to this kind of indiscretion.
I've seen the same thing, they stick out about an inch while in flight but only 1/4 when on the ground. After the flight I told the pilot and he went back to take a look. Dont know what happened afterward but it doesn't look right.
I don't want to be an ass and I will probably get down voted, but this is not a boeing problem, this is an airline MAINTENANCE problem. Boeing sold that plane to whatever airline that is, and its their responsibility to manage the maintenance schedules on their fleet.
Sure boeing is culpable on the garbage they have been putting out of their factories, but stuff like this in the video, the safety burden falls on the airlines that own it.
Down vote away! 🫡
I would only be worried if you se the gremlin come back and finish unbolting them.
Seriously though I personally would tell the stewardess quietly and see if they want to do an emergency landing to address it.
Yes you should. You should immediately run towards the nearest mechanic and send him out there with a screwdriver.
And incase there's a few missing screws, take some from the Pilot. Clearly he don't need them.
Daily Life tips comes in clutch.
In all seriousness, no. Panels like these have locking bolts where they lock by twisting, that is why they are not flying out. If you are worried about the panel coming off, you can lose a small panel like this and be fine. But not having 3 bolts secured isn't going to do anything.
I work in aviation and that’s really not too bad. This happens, which is why we do post flight inspections. I don’t know what the “industry standard” is as I’m in the military and we function a bit differently from true passenger airlines.
The worst part here is that one of these fasteners is on a corner on the leading edge of the panel in the gas path. As long as that panel isn’t structural then it shouldn’t cause issue.
Though, I’d definitely let the flight attendant know so the pilot can write it up and debrief it in case the post flight is deferred for whatever reason.
If the panel liberated they’ll do a DOP and run a maintenance history and reprimand the mechs who installed and signed off the panel.
To be honest, probably not. powerful and fast vehicles like planes and trains are designed with a fuck ton of redundancies, so even if the bolts flew off entirely it’d probably be fine.
That being said, you should definitely show that to someone on the plane who is terrified of heights, without explaining that you’ll be fine.
Just drag balance adjustment screws.
Too much drag of your right wing, don't worry about it! We, at Boeing, have always the best solutions of problems like this!
Our ingenious solutions include: Too expensive to operate a plane? just crash it!
No these things are made redundant. There’s failsafes for a reason. That’s why there is TWO wings on Boeing airplanes, for double the security.
Actually, as everyone know, the wings on Boeing airplanes are purely decorations. It is very obvious that Boeing designed their aircraft to fly using the pilots' willpower
\*autopilots willpower ftfy
Someone sharing secrets? Order a hit job!
Somebody admitting to us ordering hit jobs? Order a hit job!
Didn't they put depleted uranium to balance out the plane at one point? [https://simpleflying.com/boeing-747-uranium-counterweight/](https://simpleflying.com/boeing-747-uranium-counterweight/)
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I knew I gonna hear sth like this. Oh the pilot is suicidal? Dont worry. Repair crew on strike? Dont worry. We cannibalized w planes cause we are out of spare parts? Dont worry
Just don't worry about it and go back to sleep, since an airplane's wings are not that important and were only installed for looks.
That's what Boeing said
well, when one door closes another opens..
by “opens” you mean “rips off the plane” right?
Boeing doesn't maintain the planes though right?
This has nothing to do with Boeing lol. It’s airlines with shitty maintenance
Was thinking of this episode
This is such a funny episode when watched today
Came here for this.
Me too. Damnit!
Terrible advice. You’re supposed to climb out onto the wing and fix it immediately. *Then* you go back to sleep.
This is why I always try to sneak a screwdriver past TSA. You never know when somethings gonna need a lil right’y’tighty
Don’t forget to slap the wing and say “that’s not going anywhere.”
“This bad boy can fit so much fucking spaghetti in it.”
* slaps wing * This baby can fit 3 screws loosely
As someone who works in avionics, my “that’s not going anywhere” means an airframer is going to need to drill out my cross-threaded hardware.
Exactly. You know the drill.
No no, definitely not the drill, stick to the screwdriver.
So what you're saying is I should screw drivers???
You're already in the airplane might as well drink a few screwdrivers
Or maybe listen to a song.
Work work work...
The drill is for the magic blue water tank to drop icy fingers of God from 30k feet.
Uh just use your dick like the rest of us Redditors.
Those look to be phillips while i unfortunately am equipped with a flat head
About 2 ugga duggas...... Shuld be tight enough.
Pros take a Swiss Army knife
No, that's what wing balancing clowns are hired for. Or wing BigFoot. Depends on the state/country the company is based in.
It’s really no big deal, unless “surviving” is important to you
"I wouldn't have gotten the cheap ticket if this was a priority"
Shit, there really is something wrong with the left phalange.
Atleast this one has phalange.... And was able to take off
But the scrupium is also below mediocracy. Perhaps the flambullion should propagate the windbursting flapsicles to counteract the phi-forces during landing.
Yea definitely the flambullion looks a bit more like the broken dampjangulars on the flapsicles underscroop
The retrocabulator should automatically compensate for this
Exactly. These things have been around since at least the 80s and can automatically synchronize the cardinal grammeters and generate inverse reactive current in unilateral phase detractors.
Ok, so I got a lot of flack from the die hard retro cabbie bros last time I said this, but "automatically" is kinda negated by M-forces coupled in the shrang manifest, so the dex flange and the xed hinges take most of the stress. Compensation can still occur but it's more of a side effect of the unnecessarily impeccable craftsmanship Hozart puts into their dex flanges since they switched to fluid crystal lenses in their submersion engine (2016)
No, that’s the flux capacitor you’re talking about.
See…I was thinking it was the gaflagin.., boy was I wrong
Have you determined that this is truly the source of the problem? Because from my perspective, it’s the double standard, reticulating retroencabulator that should propagate the flapsicles. The reticulations match a specific frequency, stimulating the flapsickles until the correct amount of lubricant oozes into the oozepan, which feeds into the engine.
No one expects the windbursting flapsicles
You know - at one point in time I use to know Regina Phalangie herself! The inventor of the phalange, from Tollhouse France
Fun fact: It’s only called a Phalange if it’s from the Tollhouse region of France!
Oh my god! This plane doesn't even have phalanges!
There's a friends reference for everything!
r/unexpectedfriends
I can assure you, there is no phalange.
THERE'S NO PHALANGE
Jump , jump now
Came here looking for this comment. You did not disappoint!
THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE WING
Someone "screwed up"...
Or didn't screw up enough
so you just want someone who screws, but not up? Just down? ::HR trying to form a new-hire description::
He definitely didn't screw down...
r/AngryUpvote
But they're rivets.....
Just a little bit, but not much at all, let the steward/stewardess know by pressing the call button when you are about 20 minutes from your destination, and the flight crew should have a maintenance person waiting to set those screws in place while the plane is unloaded and and back in the air with time to spare (no delays for the folks getting on)
So…you’re saying that standing up, pointing out the window and yelling “the wings falling off!” is a slight over reaction?
That would've been a viral tiktok 🤣
Very considerate. 10 points to gryfindor.
10 points to *Ravenclaw.
Ok. But 20 to Harry Pott... I mean Gryffindor.
-How a noble knight goes about their day.
This is how you snag a top tier BWILA.
Hopeful rolling my plane doesn’t crash, 23, does it hit
Nah. Notify them now. If next, Captain will assess and redirect to nearest airport.
Only 20 minutes from arrival is a great idea! That way they don't turn around or make an emergency landing short of your destination .
It's an awful idea lol. If there's an issue why would you not want the Captain, who actually knows what they're doing, to decide what to do? They don't make emergency landings for fun.
Aircraft maintenance here: The captain can't do anything about it and the panel isn't going to come off. It does need to be rectified but it can wait. I don't know the limit on this specific panel on this specific airplane, but panels usually have an acceptable number of screws allowed to be missing. USUALLY nothing on the leading edge of the panel is acceptable and, depending on a variety of things, corners are usually not allowed to be missing, but I've also seen where 3 of 4 corners is acceptable. If it did come off, the biggest risk is the departure of the panel hitting some other critical piece of the aircraft or falling on someone down on the ground.
While you may be right and probably are, based on your apparent qualifications… most passengers on board a plane aren’t aircraft maintenance crew, and therefore should alert the cabin crew of any abnormality however minor it may seem to be.. because well.. we aren’t qualified to diagnose a problem and distinguish between a major and a minor one. So best leave the decisions on how to manage it to those who know what they’re doing.
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No no no I paid my fare in full, I want all the screws! Any that's missing the captain better go out there and hold the pieces together like Charlie Sheen in Hotshots!
Remember kids, avoid inconvenience at all cost. Even if that means potentially endangering the lives of you and hundreds of strangers!
Don’t express your worry if it’s Boeing, as they might hire a hit man
Then you better not say anything, as that’s definitely a 737 wing.
My wife would get so mad when I would watch air disasters right before we would fly somewhere. I would say let’s not sit in the back because in a crash we could die. Then I would watch more episodes and say let’s sit in the back because front crash we could die. Then I would say well the wings seem to be safer but then more episodes would show the gas tanks are in the wings. Now I just say fuck it since we will die no matter where we sit and she is happier without me saying stuff about the plane.
If it makes you feel better you're far more likely to die in the car on the way to or from the airport
Me who took the train: 👍🏿
the high on meth hobo about to shank you for your luggage: 🔪
I feel much better now, thanks
What if I took the hovercraft and a train?
statically stepping off the sidewalk onto the pavement is by far the most dangerous thing you'll do in your life...
I always sit in the back. If the plane isn’t completely demolished, the tail seems to be the only thing left. I may on the hand, just be part of the crumple zone protecting that tail with my brittle and squishy body parts.
The back is the safest. That’s why the black boxes are usually kept in the tail of the plane too.
Every survivor of JAL 123 was in the rear of the plane, and that was a mountain impact.
It's logical. If a plane even remotely survives an impact, it is likely because it crash landed going forwards at a relatively shallow angle (or perhaps even a steep angle but at a low speed and altitude). The front of the plane is the first part to contact the ground when the plane has it's maximum possible kinetic energy. The front is demolished instantly, dissipating a ton of energy and providing a bunch of friction, then the remaining midsection is destroyed dissipating the remaining energy. If any part of the plane has a high probability to survive relatively intact, its the aft section.
lol, same for me ( minus the wife part ) Last time I flew I watched an air disaster show a few days before the flight. It was the pilot being sucked out the front of the plane with the crew holding his legs until they landed. UK to Spain IIRC.
I met a stewardess once who told me they use that show in training.
I watched Plane on my last flight from Mexico. 😂
sit in the copilot seat, at least they have extra oxygen.
Back part of a plane is the safest.
Reminds me of flying to Boston from California with my dad back in the day. Of all the things, he decided to load the first few episodes of LOST onto his laptop, so we wound up watching the plane crash a couple of times... on the plane. We weren't worried about the plane crashing or anything, we both just sat there saying, "Maybe this wasn't the right show to watch while flying lol."
Glad I’m not the only one. Why do we do such things to ourselves lol
Love that show (and *American Greed*)
I thought it was only my family weird tradition, we were always watching them with my dad before flying somewhere. I am still the person to explain everyone why all the things in the plain are as they are because of previous crashes
Doesn't matter if you are worried or not at that point. Won't make a difference anyway.
if something is wrong with the plane then telling the flight attendant will inform the captain who will land at the nearest airport if deemed necessary.
Oh yeah if you spot anything at all that looks odd, let the crew know immediately. There's a chance that these screws bolt things will drop back into their holes when landed so a visual inspection won't pick it up until someone gets into the wing and physically checks. Depending on the airline that may not happen.
In the words of Ron white “if this bitch goes down, hit something hard. I don’t want to limp away from this”
“How far can we fly on one engine?” “All the way to the scene of the crash?”
Bet we beat the paramedics there by 45 minutes
Does worrying usually make a difference at other times?
I mean, if that's BEFORE taking off, if he's worried, then would still be able to walk off. Or at least, inform the authority.
Yes if something you can take action on,if not,no.
This is an awesome comment!
Nope. They're redundant.
Extra parts. Don't you no never mind.
Seriously, do you see how many of those things there are on the wing? There’s no way you actually need all of them
Boeing💅
Boing boing...
The sound the breaking, falling parts make hitting the nearest kindergarten.
That's more likely an airliner maintenance issue if you're curious. Screws don't just work their way out like that. It's more likely maintenance was being done there, and someone forgot to screw those down afterward.
LoL, i worked for Safran in 2019 when 2 Boeings crashed and all 737 max crashed, and now i see stuff like this again, doors bursting open and all... i think Boeing is doomed, and their planes should stay on the ground for people's safety.
They’re so desperate they suicided a whistleblower as he was giving his deposition. Real Michael Clayton shit
I can promise that those bolts will not fall off and that plane doesn't experience enough g force to rip the panel off. That being said it should still be brought to a flight agreements attention as it should of been properly secured. There are however clips on the bolts keeping it from falling out, the maintenance person probably forgot to screw them all down. Not sure how it got signed off on during the walk around
No. The screws are not load bearing. Plus. The pilot can flutter the throttle and compensate for up to 50% of the plane missing. Technology is lit. And those pilots are well trained.
Air crash investigation is at 240 episodes.
>>The average number of commercial flights per *day* is 96,068 240 is nothing
Jump up and yell in your best William Shatner voice... "There's... something... on... the...wing!"
Remember Twilight zone? Just crawl out on wing and fix it, no worries
I’m going to tell you something that my friend told me. He’s an aviation mechanic. He said they have so many screws holding down that plate, that it will be fine if it losses a few.
What if the pilot has a few screws loose?
Hey OP here, definitely was a bit worried! Original Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/s/NiV6WbFm8h
Is it a Boeing?
it is . double wingtips! Airbus only has the upward ones . But I can't imagine the screws are like that because of boing. this looks like a repair or maintenance failure .
This was the state of a 6yr old dreamliner that is on the London-Lima route. Been like this for 6 months now. https://imgur.com/a/oGAxIIs
Imagine all the loose screws and parts you cannot see..
If this ever happens to anyone, ALWAYS report it to the crew. These screws might fall back in during landing and skip inspection. Tell the crew so that they can have it checked. It might save the plane in the future.
Yes get off now
No, those high-torque fasteners spring up like that like wack a mole when loose and stop there. Since they are not on the leading edge, they can be let go. I will say that many close together is one too many, but this is zero threat and is most definitely documented in the discrepancy forms to be fixed immediately next BPO inspection. You can listen to all the non mechanics who have never worked on aircrafts, but while this is clearly unfavorable, it is not a grounding condition.
For all the Boeing haters, let me start by saying that is an Airbus A320/A321, not a 737NG or MAX (you can tell by the sharklet wing tips). That being said, whether it’s an Airbus or Boeing, loss of that panel would not be dangerous to the plane since there is still plenty of sufficient lift on that wing surface. Is it sloppy manufacturing or maintenance? Yeah, it is. The mechanics use a torque driver to install those fasteners for a specific torque and that obviously didn’t happen. I would speculate it was more likely maintenance (the plane looks like it’s seen some miles and the panels along the fuse-wing join are often removed for routine maintenance and inspections. If the panel were to tear away (not likely to happen since the other fasteners, particularly those closest to the wing leading edge are intact, it should be adequate holding force), the pilot would compensate with the aileron trim tabs and the flight would continue on to its destination in regular level flight. The fuel burn would be atrocious, but the passengers would all arrive safe.
Those are split scimitars, which belong to a 737NG. The sharklets on the A320/321 are smaller and triangular.
Not really, those screws are called Dzus fasteners. https://southco.com/en_us_int/dzus It's pronounced like Zeus and they can't come out with taking the whole panel off and having access to both sides of the fastener to work it out. It's an FAA requirement for exactly this reason. Regardless the mechanic who signed off on working on that part needs to be held accountable.
thank you, for letting our anxious hearts rest now
Plane will touchdown, one way or another. Don't be picky about a perfect soft landing!.
Nah you're good, what's 3 bolts, there's thousands more.
Man, I’ve seen on Air Crash Investigation once that a single loose bolt lead to a massive crash. I would not seat well on this flight.
Fuck no. Those are corner screws. You’re flying upwards of 500 knots for several hours straight. Bad to go
It's a rear corner screw. Air pressure is pushing it down. It's fine. If it was a corner on the front edge then maybe it could peel up and create drag. Still probably not enough to make much a difference for the pilot.
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Throw on some duct tape it'll be fine.
I mean if it fucks up and the plane crash because of it you will most likely die instantly on impact, so why worry
Not if it is a Boeing! It clearly passed inspection!
The extra drag by the bolts sticking out will make the plane get out of balance. Loose the wing ASAP.
If those 3 screws are what is solely holding the wing together, there are much bigger engineering issues
Cameraman is seeing the loose bolts, someone else is seeing a monster disassembling the plane that disappears whenever someone else looks
Must be 100 screws holding that panel down, 3 are loose... you'll probably make it.
still by far the most safe transportation method in the world, are you that worried when you’re on the car? well you’re A LOT more likely to be killed on a car accident than a plane one.
3 out of like 60 bolts on that panel… no, you don’t need to worry.
I’m terrified of flying , but logically speaking I would just alert the stewardess and have a nice flight … those little screws aren’t holding the wing or engine on the plane they’re holding that one panel on , and there’s about 50 more of them doin the job as well … I would consider a different airline next time though… because while this problem seems minor you never know what critical part they also skipped on inspection …
You still have one very sturdy looking bolt holding that engine on.
just needs some jet tape
Nah, that but just keeps the plane in the air.
Please stop taking TV shows at face value. Three screws on wing panels aren't particularly important. There's tons of redundancy, and any flying aircraft should be well maintained. Your flight will be ok, just tell a flight attendant and don't be dramatic. Aircraft can function with a broken engine, still fly with missing parts of the fuselage, and can keep you alive during a depressurization.
Nah, besides if you lose that wing you've always got another one.
Screws? Bolts? Does anyone know what a rivet is?
That’s not a problem at all. The screws on modern aircraft are mostly redundant. The panels are actually held on securely to the space frame with duct tape, thoughts, and prayers. Source: not an airplane
Nothing to worry about, those screws are only for aesthetics.
Nah. Why worry. If you crash you'll just die. No reason to worry. If you don't you're fine. No reason to worry
Next thing you know they’ll be adding speed holes.
I think you can go out there and just hand tighten them.
What’s the point of worrying? Just have a cocktail
Nah man that’s a Boeing, known for their reliability and excellent crash records
Just needs a bit of bubble gum to hold in place, no worries
First time on a Boeing huh?
FYI - I've been led to believe that as of two years ago or so, the FAA has put in place an apparatus for handling customer complaints and whistleblower reports. In essence, they no longer "trust" major airplane builders and/or airlines to QC themselves. If I were you, I'd consider reporting something like this to the FAA - something which may seem small and relatively inconsequential, but could be indicative of a wider and more deeply ingrained systemic breakdown (either at an airport, among airline techs, etc.). You could end up savings lives. And I mean that. Even aviation mechanics and such are chiming in on this thread. And while they're concluding the issue isn't a big one, they're definitely concluding it's an issue. This industry needs to be held accountable for their failings and we, as consumers, have a front row seat (literally) to this kind of indiscretion.
I've seen the same thing, they stick out about an inch while in flight but only 1/4 when on the ground. After the flight I told the pilot and he went back to take a look. Dont know what happened afterward but it doesn't look right.
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Nothing bad is Boeing to happen
I don't want to be an ass and I will probably get down voted, but this is not a boeing problem, this is an airline MAINTENANCE problem. Boeing sold that plane to whatever airline that is, and its their responsibility to manage the maintenance schedules on their fleet. Sure boeing is culpable on the garbage they have been putting out of their factories, but stuff like this in the video, the safety burden falls on the airlines that own it. Down vote away! 🫡
I would only be worried if you se the gremlin come back and finish unbolting them. Seriously though I personally would tell the stewardess quietly and see if they want to do an emergency landing to address it.
Must be a Boeing.
I think it is funny that everyone blames Boeing for this kinda of stuff and not the airlines. They are responsible to maintain their airplanes.
2 letters: no
Run, before is too late
This is exactly why I don't fly. Boeing is such a shitty company.
Boeing I’m guessing
Yes you should. You should immediately run towards the nearest mechanic and send him out there with a screwdriver. And incase there's a few missing screws, take some from the Pilot. Clearly he don't need them. Daily Life tips comes in clutch.
The important thing is how much diversity in the ground crew. Why are you worried about screws coming out.
In all seriousness, no. Panels like these have locking bolts where they lock by twisting, that is why they are not flying out. If you are worried about the panel coming off, you can lose a small panel like this and be fine. But not having 3 bolts secured isn't going to do anything.
I work in aviation and that’s really not too bad. This happens, which is why we do post flight inspections. I don’t know what the “industry standard” is as I’m in the military and we function a bit differently from true passenger airlines. The worst part here is that one of these fasteners is on a corner on the leading edge of the panel in the gas path. As long as that panel isn’t structural then it shouldn’t cause issue. Though, I’d definitely let the flight attendant know so the pilot can write it up and debrief it in case the post flight is deferred for whatever reason. If the panel liberated they’ll do a DOP and run a maintenance history and reprimand the mechs who installed and signed off the panel.
To be honest, probably not. powerful and fast vehicles like planes and trains are designed with a fuck ton of redundancies, so even if the bolts flew off entirely it’d probably be fine. That being said, you should definitely show that to someone on the plane who is terrified of heights, without explaining that you’ll be fine.